Lets remember that the main objectives of Bush,
Gore, And the Media are to Get elected and keep
keep us buying more articles. So the statements
coming from these sources will tend to be
exagerated to make a point and make a profit.
I think it is very dangerous for us to talk about
something that is very important without any
metrics being applied. If we FEEL that the
net is causing harm, then we should be able
to MEASURE the effect. Perhaps the opposite
of what we FEEL is what is true! Or perhaps
the NET is causing harm. With some real data,
maybe we could find out why.
I FEEL that the principle operating influence
here is NOT agression in the lower age bracket.
The real problem is that people in the upper
age brackets feel disconnected and out of
touch with the younger generation. This
disconnect breeds fear which sells newspapers
and votes.
And GUESS WHAT! That has always been the case.
The older generation has NEVER understood the
younger generation. Rock music will turn them
all into Fiends! Amorality will rule the earth!
We will fall into the Pit and God will abandon
us!
Are you a Fiend? Or are you a victim of
your parents poor choice of leaders because
they fell for the same hard sell you are
falling for. The Fear Sell.
You issue the license plates for the vehicle they are using. Then they can go anywhere on the internet and do what they want. If someone with a warrant comes and says: who did you give that plate to, then you give it to them. And only what the warrant specifies.
If you are going to keep more information than that, then you should inform your cusotmers that you are keeping tabs on them. But I dont think you will keep your customers for very long if you do.
Remember that a lawyer can get access to almost anything for any reason. And it can be a civil, not criminal matter: Custody, Divorce, Libel. Do you really want to be the vessel used by an unscrupulous lawyer doing a character assasination for his client on your customer?
And do you really want to get supoenaed every day for access to your logs?
1. Is the state of California law being followed which states that a person who is the subject of a wiretape must be informed after X period of time. Both sides of the conversation must be informed by law. 2. Who gets to see the data besides the FBI? 3. Is this data stored on a form of write-once media that cannot be altered: Like cdr? 4. What is done with the data? Is it databased? When does the data get thrown out? How is the data discarded? 5. Is the data being used to create "Hand offs" to other agencies or officers for investigations not directly involved with the crime being investigated. 6. Is the day to day visits of the federal agents to the device being used to modify the search parameters or merely to collect data. If they are modifying the search, then they are probably doing so to STOP collecting data has been collected by mistake... and they have already broken the law. 7. When was the last time one FBI agent turned in another agent for any crime. When has any agent ever been charged with a illegal wiretap. If the law is never used, it may as well not exist. 8. Does the data stay within the FBI or are they using outside experts/services to process it? Are they allowed to? 9. Just because they collected data in "error" that would not be admissible, does not mean that data is not valuable. Is an accounting track kept of who has access to the data within FBI to insure that INDIVIDUALS within the FBI are not using the info for personal gain? Or political gain? 10. Does carnivore have the ability to perform man-in-the-middle replacement of information. Could it be used to plant evidence on a system by inserting information into a download that was not intended/requested? 11. Does the telco or ISP have the right to monitor the OUTPUT on to their network by this machine? The device should not be allowed to insert data. FBI has the right to listen, does it have the right to insert data?
Most of the Linux community does not fully understand just how robust and featured the AIX platform is. Bear in mind that the features that Linux is JUST NOW beginning to think about have been in AIX for TEN YEARS. Thats like a Millenium in computer years. It will be interesting to see the stunned look on peoples faces when the fully realize just how far Linux has to go to catch up!
I understand that DoS attacks usually use packets with forged source addresses. But, why do ISPs allow such packets out of their own networks? Each ISP MUST know what networks they serve in order to route the incomming packets. Why dont the ISPs simply block packets coming from their network for which they have no route back? Then the source of the offending packets could be determined directly and disabled.
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Lets remember that the main objectives of Bush,
Gore, And the Media are to Get elected and keep
keep us buying more articles. So the statements
coming from these sources will tend to be
exagerated to make a point and make a profit.
I think it is very dangerous for us to talk about
something that is very important without any
metrics being applied. If we FEEL that the
net is causing harm, then we should be able
to MEASURE the effect. Perhaps the opposite
of what we FEEL is what is true! Or perhaps
the NET is causing harm. With some real data,
maybe we could find out why.
I FEEL that the principle operating influence
here is NOT agression in the lower age bracket.
The real problem is that people in the upper
age brackets feel disconnected and out of
touch with the younger generation. This
disconnect breeds fear which sells newspapers
and votes.
And GUESS WHAT! That has always been the case.
The older generation has NEVER understood the
younger generation. Rock music will turn them
all into Fiends! Amorality will rule the earth!
We will fall into the Pit and God will abandon
us!
Are you a Fiend? Or are you a victim of
your parents poor choice of leaders because
they fell for the same hard sell you are
falling for. The Fear Sell.
Sell, Sell, Sell.
In addition to all the other Computer Based
Training systems, now books themselves require
you to choose a specific tool to read them.
And when Apples' market share becomes so marginal
that they fall, then there will be only one point
of control for all information on the planet.
It may already be too late to stop it.
You issue the license plates for the vehicle
they are using. Then they can go anywhere
on the internet and do what they want. If
someone with a warrant comes and says:
who did you give that plate to, then you
give it to them. And only what the warrant
specifies.
If you are going to keep more information than
that, then you should inform your cusotmers that
you are keeping tabs on them. But I dont think
you will keep your customers for very long
if you do.
Remember that a lawyer can get access to almost
anything for any reason. And it can be a civil,
not criminal matter: Custody, Divorce, Libel.
Do you really want to be the vessel used by
an unscrupulous lawyer doing a character assasination for his client on your customer?
And do you really want to get supoenaed every
day for access to your logs?
1. Is the state of California law being followed which states that a person who is the subject of a wiretape must be informed after X period of time. Both sides of the conversation must be informed by law. 2. Who gets to see the data besides the FBI? 3. Is this data stored on a form of write-once media that cannot be altered: Like cdr? 4. What is done with the data? Is it databased? When does the data get thrown out? How is the data discarded? 5. Is the data being used to create "Hand offs" to other agencies or officers for investigations not directly involved with the crime being investigated. 6. Is the day to day visits of the federal agents to the device being used to modify the search parameters or merely to collect data. If they are modifying the search, then they are probably doing so to STOP collecting data has been collected by mistake... and they have already broken the law. 7. When was the last time one FBI agent turned in another agent for any crime. When has any agent ever been charged with a illegal wiretap. If the law is never used, it may as well not exist. 8. Does the data stay within the FBI or are they using outside experts/services to process it? Are they allowed to? 9. Just because they collected data in "error" that would not be admissible, does not mean that data is not valuable. Is an accounting track kept of who has access to the data within FBI to insure that INDIVIDUALS within the FBI are not using the info for personal gain? Or political gain? 10. Does carnivore have the ability to perform man-in-the-middle replacement of information. Could it be used to plant evidence on a system by inserting information into a download that was not intended/requested? 11. Does the telco or ISP have the right to monitor the OUTPUT on to their network by this machine? The device should not be allowed to insert data. FBI has the right to listen, does it have the right to insert data?
Most of the Linux community does not fully understand just how robust and featured the AIX platform is. Bear in mind that the features that Linux is JUST NOW beginning to think about have been in AIX for TEN YEARS. Thats like a Millenium in computer years. It will be interesting to see the stunned look on peoples faces when the fully realize just how far Linux has to go to catch up!
I understand that DoS attacks usually use packets with forged source addresses. But, why do ISPs allow such packets out of their own networks? Each ISP MUST know what networks they serve in order to route the incomming packets. Why dont the ISPs simply block packets coming from their network for which they have no route back? Then the source of the offending packets could be determined directly and disabled.