LOL I had you absolutely pegged for a troll from your second post. The first smelled like a troll, but I figured it needed to be said that this product could have more applications than just protecting postitutes. This could be huge in the free love/swinger scene(and yes it still exists). But as soon as you started in with the "sexual record" it was classic troll. I've spent too many years on usenet not to recognize a troll when I see one. I considered going all out alt.flame on you, but I had a crisis at work I was dealing with between our banter. Come to alt.flame sometime and we'll really roast each other. Drop me a line at smerr612@mailandnews.com before you go though because I don't normally lurk in alt.flame
Ding Ding!!! Give the man a cigar! (As long as you're not really William J. Clinton that is, we've seen what happens to cigars in the oval office(ewww))
People who brag about how much karma they have are more pathetic than people who brag about their sexual exploits.
I love how you can read so much into my life since I have given you _NO_ information to work with except my username. This is hilarious. Unfortunately it's drawn to a close, I'm tired of being trolled.
Hmm, compare my sexual history with someone who won't post as anything but an AC? No thanks.
Even if your's was true(big if there) then you would certainly see the benefit of this product to non-hookers. I bet a lot of your "women" wonder if they got something from you.(and a fair number of them probably did)
Recommended usage? Whatever. This is for anyone who get's some without having a full bio of the other person. Ever had a one night stand and wondered "oh shit! what if she had AIDS?"
Actually, come to think of it, you probably haven't. Typically you have to have charm to pick up a lady.
Michel Bergeron hopes to save lives with something that's barely there: a colorless, odorless, imperceptible gel that blocks the AIDS virus and other sexually transmitted diseases.
Ok, colorless, odorless, all these are great accomplishments. But for me(and admit it guys, a lot of you too) this thing needs to be tasteless as well.
I've seen a lot of good websites go down the tubes due to the "Slashdot effect" Most of them learn after one hit, but is there any pro-active measures a person can take to keep their site up when it's slashdotted? One co-worker of mine came up with a daemon which scans/. every couple minutes for your site URL and then either adjusts your server config to handle massively more clients, or alert you via email, etc. But this is still pretty weak. Maybe a way to scan the submissions queue? A note from/. staff saying "we're about to hammer your site" is pretty unrealistic, they won't even spell check their stuff. Any other ideas?
And it's scary, believe me. Check this out, from the original submission.
"Network Engines just announced two products that ruin Maxtors previous record of stashing 320 GB in 1U.
Let's say that again with the proper emphasis.
"Network Engines just announced two products that ruin Maxtors previous record of stashing 320 GB in 1U.
See? Two Products 320 GB in 1U. A product is the result of multiplication, right? Two (times) 320 GB in 1U = 640 GB in 1U.
Now you too understand CmdrTaco. Welcome to my nightmare.
1 Produce Top Quality Code
2 Teach Average Programmers to be Good Programmers
3 Focus on retaining good people
4 Keep your service-oriented focus
Actually, these priorities look pretty good. Until you look at how PG suggests to achieve them.
1. Make your programmers more comfortable at the office than at home.
2. Keep them working during all facets of their lives(coding while watching the sunset on the beach?)
3. Keep them working at a "ruthless" pace, especially the newer, less experienced programmers.
All of these sound like great ingredients for a coding machine, but not for a coder. I have a wife and three small children. I'm not working 70+ hours a week every week. I've done it, and I'll probably do it again. But I'm not going to sacrifice my humanity for my ability to code. Not every coder is a single person right out of school who is willing to sacrifice every shred of interaction with non-office mates in order to get the high salaries being offered to those who sacrifice themselves on the Altar of Good Programming.
This is like Objectivism(this is not meant to start a flame war about Objectivism, please don't), a great philosophy, tightly integrated and capable of producing amazing results. But in the end it requires the sacrifice of all the things which make humans human. Some would argue that those things aren't worth keeping in the face of the satisfaction of creating new technologies and shaping the future. Looking at my children, I would disagree.
Mir held hostage by mutant space fungus!!
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Mir Lives
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Next Mir story: Mir held hostage by mutant fungus. Neo-organism demands net connection and account on/.
*******************Newsflash******************** *******
Today Mir cosmonauts lives hang in the balance as a mutant space fungus threatens to breech the ailing space station's hull. This standoff has been going on for a over 48 hours now with the ground crews desperately scrambling to meet the demands delivered via a encoded DNA strand the fungus dropped into one of the cosmonauts lunch one day, this strand gave him gas. The gas buildup was sequenced so he passed on the message via morse code with his flatulence. The demand? "I want a DSL connection and I want it *NOW* I want karma damn it!"
Mission control sent up a new air tank and scrambled to accomodate the fungus's demands. A bio-sensitive keyboard which can be controlled by chemical signals is being manufactured and is scheduled to be deployed as soon as possible. When asked if it was the policy of Mir's control center to give in to threats of terrorism, a high ranking official replied "All the fungus want's to do is troll Slashdot. Who the hell cares? Who the hell would notice?"
Come on Sally, it's a business. Just because a bunch of jokers are losing their shirts because they don't know how to handle this new market doesn't mean we need to give them special breaks. Competition means you'll have winners and losers, that's the breaks.
That's just ridiculous. There were mass murderers of all ages back in the 50's and 60's. Saying "Ithe two Columbine shooters had had some regular beatings they would still be alive today, and they would probably be popular as well" is just plain wrong. You completely underestimate the complexity of teenage psychology. I hope you get modded down as a troll, because that certainly was one.
Similarly, the revenue of the recorded music industry is dwarfed by that of Fed Ex and the U.S. Postal Service
Does this mean Fed Ex, UPS and the USPS are going to come together and put the bitchslap on e-mail? (We will firewall e-mail and source, we will firewall it at blah blah blah) Before you laugh, think about it for a second. The advent of the "3D printer" is pretty much a joke, but we can already send a large amount of things which used to require physical transport over electronic mediums. Once we get some kind of way to send patterns of physical objects over a communications medium and some way of re-constructing those patterns on the other end, then UPS, Fed EX and the USPS will be totatlly obsolete, won't they? A business model which believed(as the recording labels did) that it was immortal will be challenged again. This could get ugly. Especially since the USPS is a government branch.
Does anyone actually believe there is someone who "bought it without knowing what it is" then let some asshole who uses threats of destruction negotiate with the museum for them?
Here's my take on what happened. Some jerk stole the machine. Then personality B comes into play and this jerk starts sending off letters to the museum demanding ransom. This jerk says he's acting on behalf of, oh... some innocent party who bought it at a rummage sale. Yea that's the ticket! Now I can harass them and demand a ton of money under my assumed name, then deliver it in person and they won't arrest the delivery boy because he "bought it without knowing what it was"
Yes, I'm sure the British authorities will believe this. It happens all the time.
With all due respect. You are exactly the type of person I don't want reviewing Carnivore. And you are the typical undergrad. You know everything, good for you. I'd rather have some reviewers with experience, who've seen the process go from just code and theory to practice and application. People who have been there when code which wasn't intended to violate privacy was actually used like that. Undergrads think they run the world because they're the brightest stars in the media eye. Guess what, the hot startups don't impress me. Look at the CEO's of businesses which are in the black, instead of running on VC money. Those people know business, real business. Not business models made out of play doh. They don't have to read up on the geek ethos, they _are_ the geek ethos.
You just made my point. Script Kiddies don't know _how_ the tools they have in their hands work. Neither do most random undergrads. You think they would recognize the controls and limits which are built into the code? I understand why the original poster wanted it to go to new people, people who have the "God's in his heaven and everything is right with the world" kind of views of morality. ie people who wouldn't see much in the shades of grey which Carnivore obviously falls into. Sure they'd scream "This might violate privacy. Programmers are supposed to respect their users!" Just like the undergrad texts teach, but I simply don't believe they would have the technical skills to be able to understand all the possibile uses(abuses) of the software.
The Justice Department defended its choice Friday, observing that Mr. Perritt and Mr. Krent had also worked in Republican administrations.
Anyone falling for this? Here's a hint. The political affiliation of your boss does not determine your status as biased or unbiased. This guy may have loved both the Democratic and Republican bosses he had and think extra Governmental control is necessary. Or he may have memories of "Man, having this info would have made my job so much easier back when I worked for the Justice Dept." Both of these possiblities are biased and both are bi-partisan.
I'll bet that there are at least 5,000 pages on category "X" that even the world's most well-rounded category "X" expert has never read, or heard of.
He's right you know. I consider myself the world's leading expert on "X" topics. I did a quick Google search for "X" and
Google results 1-10 of about 70,200,000 for X.
Wow! Now I visit about 10-12 "X" sites per day and I change up quite often to see different "X" style "topics" but this is just amazing. Seventy _million_ pages! I guess I've got some more surfing to do. Even counting each "XXX" site as three "X" sites, I'm still way behind.
LOL I had you absolutely pegged for a troll from your second post. The first smelled like a troll, but I figured it needed to be said that this product could have more applications than just protecting postitutes. This could be huge in the free love/swinger scene(and yes it still exists). But as soon as you started in with the "sexual record" it was classic troll. I've spent too many years on usenet not to recognize a troll when I see one. I considered going all out alt.flame on you, but I had a crisis at work I was dealing with between our banter. Come to alt.flame sometime and we'll really roast each other. Drop me a line at smerr612@mailandnews.com before you go though because I don't normally lurk in alt.flame
Steven
Ding Ding!!! Give the man a cigar! (As long as you're not really William J. Clinton that is, we've seen what happens to cigars in the oval office(ewww))
Steven
People who brag about how much karma they have are more pathetic than people who brag about their sexual exploits.
I love how you can read so much into my life since I have given you _NO_ information to work with except my username. This is hilarious. Unfortunately it's drawn to a close, I'm tired of being trolled.
Steven
PS Space Alien pussy is out of this world.
Hmm, compare my sexual history with someone who won't post as anything but an AC? No thanks.
Even if your's was true(big if there) then you would certainly see the benefit of this product to non-hookers. I bet a lot of your "women" wonder if they got something from you.(and a fair number of them probably did)
Steven
Recommended usage? Whatever. This is for anyone who get's some without having a full bio of the other person. Ever had a one night stand and wondered "oh shit! what if she had AIDS?"
Actually, come to think of it, you probably haven't. Typically you have to have charm to pick up a lady.
Steven
Michel Bergeron hopes to save lives with something that's barely there: a colorless, odorless, imperceptible gel that blocks the AIDS virus and other sexually transmitted diseases.
Ok, colorless, odorless, all these are great accomplishments. But for me(and admit it guys, a lot of you too) this thing needs to be tasteless as well.
Steven
The asciimation is great, but even better is the "Die Jar Jar" asciimation on the same site
http://www.asciimation.co.nz/diejarjar.html
Hilarious
Steven
I think I'd rather be a "DoS attacker" than a "DOS Advocate" I think it's kinder to take down a site than promote M$ software.
Steven
I've seen a lot of good websites go down the tubes due to the "Slashdot effect" Most of them learn after one hit, but is there any pro-active measures a person can take to keep their site up when it's slashdotted? One co-worker of mine came up with a daemon which scans /. every couple minutes for your site URL and then either adjusts your server config to handle massively more clients, or alert you via email, etc. But this is still pretty weak. Maybe a way to scan the submissions queue? A note from /. staff saying "we're about to hammer your site" is pretty unrealistic, they won't even spell check their stuff. Any other ideas?
Steven
if your weight was measured in tons. Makes picking out a bathing suit a pretty nerve-wracking experience.
Steven
And it's scary, believe me. Check this out, from the original submission.
"Network Engines just announced two products that ruin Maxtors previous record of stashing 320 GB in 1U.
Let's say that again with the proper emphasis.
"Network Engines just announced two products that ruin Maxtors previous record of stashing 320 GB in 1U.
See? Two Products 320 GB in 1U. A product is the result of multiplication, right? Two (times) 320 GB in 1U = 640 GB in 1U.
Now you too understand CmdrTaco. Welcome to my nightmare.
Steven
1 Produce Top Quality Code
2 Teach Average Programmers to be Good Programmers
3 Focus on retaining good people
4 Keep your service-oriented focus
Actually, these priorities look pretty good. Until you look at how PG suggests to achieve them.
1. Make your programmers more comfortable at the office than at home.
2. Keep them working during all facets of their lives(coding while watching the sunset on the beach?)
3. Keep them working at a "ruthless" pace, especially the newer, less experienced programmers.
All of these sound like great ingredients for a coding machine, but not for a coder. I have a wife and three small children. I'm not working 70+ hours a week every week. I've done it, and I'll probably do it again. But I'm not going to sacrifice my humanity for my ability to code. Not every coder is a single person right out of school who is willing to sacrifice every shred of interaction with non-office mates in order to get the high salaries being offered to those who sacrifice themselves on the Altar of Good Programming.
This is like Objectivism(this is not meant to start a flame war about Objectivism, please don't), a great philosophy, tightly integrated and capable of producing amazing results. But in the end it requires the sacrifice of all the things which make humans human. Some would argue that those things aren't worth keeping in the face of the satisfaction of creating new technologies and shaping the future. Looking at my children, I would disagree.
Steven
At the office? Man I wish I had a job like that.
Steven
Next Mir story: Mir held hostage by mutant fungus. Neo-organism demands net connection and account on /.
* *******
*******************Newsflash*******************
Today Mir cosmonauts lives hang in the balance as a mutant space fungus threatens to breech the ailing space station's hull. This standoff has been going on for a over 48 hours now with the ground crews desperately scrambling to meet the demands delivered via a encoded DNA strand the fungus dropped into one of the cosmonauts lunch one day, this strand gave him gas. The gas buildup was sequenced so he passed on the message via morse code with his flatulence. The demand? "I want a DSL connection and I want it *NOW* I want karma damn it!"
Mission control sent up a new air tank and scrambled to accomodate the fungus's demands. A bio-sensitive keyboard which can be controlled by chemical signals is being manufactured and is scheduled to be deployed as soon as possible. When asked if it was the policy of Mir's control center to give in to threats of terrorism, a high ranking official replied "All the fungus want's to do is troll Slashdot. Who the hell cares? Who the hell would notice?"
Who indeed?
Steven
"Won't someone PLEASE think of the children!"
Come on Sally, it's a business. Just because a bunch of jokers are losing their shirts because they don't know how to handle this new market doesn't mean we need to give them special breaks. Competition means you'll have winners and losers, that's the breaks.
Steven
That's just ridiculous. There were mass murderers of all ages back in the 50's and 60's. Saying "Ithe two Columbine shooters had had some regular beatings they would still be alive today, and they would probably be popular as well" is just plain wrong. You completely underestimate the complexity of teenage psychology. I hope you get modded down as a troll, because that certainly was one.
Steven
umm, that would have been Col. Decker Not a General, and not a Becker. Try again?
Steven
"puzzling development"? I certainly wasn't suprised you had a spud up your ...
Steven
Similarly, the revenue of the recorded music industry is dwarfed by that of Fed Ex and the U.S. Postal Service
Does this mean Fed Ex, UPS and the USPS are going to come together and put the bitchslap on e-mail? (We will firewall e-mail and source, we will firewall it at blah blah blah) Before you laugh, think about it for a second. The advent of the "3D printer" is pretty much a joke, but we can already send a large amount of things which used to require physical transport over electronic mediums. Once we get some kind of way to send patterns of physical objects over a communications medium and some way of re-constructing those patterns on the other end, then UPS, Fed EX and the USPS will be totatlly obsolete, won't they? A business model which believed(as the recording labels did) that it was immortal will be challenged again. This could get ugly. Especially since the USPS is a government branch.
Steven
Does anyone actually believe there is someone who "bought it without knowing what it is" then let some asshole who uses threats of destruction negotiate with the museum for them?
Here's my take on what happened. Some jerk stole the machine. Then personality B comes into play and this jerk starts sending off letters to the museum demanding ransom. This jerk says he's acting on behalf of, oh... some innocent party who bought it at a rummage sale. Yea that's the ticket! Now I can harass them and demand a ton of money under my assumed name, then deliver it in person and they won't arrest the delivery boy because he "bought it without knowing what it was"
Yes, I'm sure the British authorities will believe this. It happens all the time.
Steven
With all due respect. You are exactly the type of person I don't want reviewing Carnivore. And you are the typical undergrad. You know everything, good for you. I'd rather have some reviewers with experience, who've seen the process go from just code and theory to practice and application. People who have been there when code which wasn't intended to violate privacy was actually used like that. Undergrads think they run the world because they're the brightest stars in the media eye. Guess what, the hot startups don't impress me. Look at the CEO's of businesses which are in the black, instead of running on VC money. Those people know business, real business. Not business models made out of play doh. They don't have to read up on the geek ethos, they _are_ the geek ethos.
Steven
You just made my point. Script Kiddies don't know _how_ the tools they have in their hands work. Neither do most random undergrads. You think they would recognize the controls and limits which are built into the code? I understand why the original poster wanted it to go to new people, people who have the "God's in his heaven and everything is right with the world" kind of views of morality. ie people who wouldn't see much in the shades of grey which Carnivore obviously falls into. Sure they'd scream "This might violate privacy. Programmers are supposed to respect their users!" Just like the undergrad texts teach, but I simply don't believe they would have the technical skills to be able to understand all the possibile uses(abuses) of the software.
Steven
Before your next tough decision ask yourself "What would ESR do?"
What would Eric S. Raymond do, if he were here right now?
You can bet he'd write a flame or two, that's what Eric S. Raymond'd do.
When Eric S. Raymond was in the Cathedral, writing proprietary code
He learned how much big business sucks, and wrote the GPL
When Eric S. Raymond was in the Congo, hunting killer apes
He used his magical flaming pen and trashed the KDE
When Eric S. Raymond traveled through time, to the year 3010
He fought and stopped the ghost of Bill Gates
Monopolizing the planet again.
What would Eric S. Raymond do if he were here right now?
You can bet he'd kick an ass or two, that's what Eric S. Raymond'd do.
Steven
The Justice Department defended its choice Friday, observing that Mr. Perritt and Mr. Krent had also worked in Republican administrations.
Anyone falling for this? Here's a hint. The political affiliation of your boss does not determine your status as biased or unbiased. This guy may have loved both the Democratic and Republican bosses he had and think extra Governmental control is necessary. Or he may have memories of "Man, having this info would have made my job so much easier back when I worked for the Justice Dept." Both of these possiblities are biased and both are bi-partisan.
Steven
I'll bet that there are at least 5,000 pages on category "X" that even the world's most well-rounded category "X" expert has never read, or heard of.
He's right you know. I consider myself the world's leading expert on "X" topics. I did a quick Google search for "X" and
Google results 1-10 of about 70,200,000 for X.
Wow! Now I visit about 10-12 "X" sites per day and I change up quite often to see different "X" style "topics" but this is just amazing. Seventy _million_ pages! I guess I've got some more surfing to do. Even counting each "XXX" site as three "X" sites, I'm still way behind.
Steven