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So, if you do anything to threaten their network connectivity, like make data available there that the upstream (or someone paying the upstream) finds objectionable, *POOF*, you are gone.
Good idea, poor implementation until they can "hide" their network connectivity.
Second, since the BSDi + WC merger, they've gone out-of-their way to hire a large number of the effective committers. If BSDi gets in trouble now, a large chunk of the FreeBSD people doing the heavy lifting will be in trouble too.
As someone else has stated so nicely, the vast majority of FreeBSD coders are NOT employed by WC/BSDi/Telenet (whatever the glom is called).
The "heavy lifting" is still done (as far as I am aware) by the community, just the "Distribution" (gawd I hate that term) by WC, and BSD/OS by BSDi.
Hardware being done by Telenet seems a good thing, but that is for a different thread
A little bird at BSDi told me that the "release" of the information on the Telenet merger leaked and that the transition to the "new" web pages (really nice looking, btw) was forced a few days early.
No, I've never screwed up anything on my own web pages, and even if I had,
I think (and obviously your opinion may vary) that BSDi till now was a software company and had no apparent bias towards any hardware. Now there is a bias.
As I stated in a previous (or latter) post, it appears that Telenet is primarily a "clone" vendor without any "real" hardware of their own.
As long as they don't suddenly start creating their own motherboards, or whatever, the only bias is toward making sure that the software sold by one division(?) of the company works on the hardware that is sold by another division of the company.
Isn't it bad form for a company to buy their clients? Isn't that the ultimate way to force the client to stick with your stuff?
I think that Telenet was a reseller of BSD/OS, not a "client" in the strict sense of the word. Since it seems that most of Telenet's products are "clone" type boxes, I also don't see exactly how this locks anyone into anything. What it DOES do is allow a corporation to buy pre-tested and "approved" hardware without worrying about compatibility issues
Isn't the basis of a free market that clients keep their options open? I bet if Microsoft would do this the world would be screaming murder.
What? Brand hardware for resale? Like the "Microsoft Ergonomic Keyboard" the "Microsoft Mouse", the "Microsoft Super-Gizmo-Whirly Joystick"? How about "Microsoft Hotmail", "Microsoft Frontpage", and "Microsoft SourceSafe" just to name a few.
During that time we also were migrating the entire operation to Linux from BSDI - because BSDI was unstable, outdated and generally sucked in a major way. So I guess it's a good paring - a confused hardware company and a suckass distro.
While BSD/OS (what you are calling BSDI) is not perfect, it is far from "unstable", and unless Telenet was trying to pawn off old software, it was probably not "outdated".
Lastly, BSD/OS is not a "distro" but a distinct variant of the BSD line of operating systems.
I'm assuming that for whatever reason you are not working there anymore? I'd like to know how the big transition went.
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So, if you do anything to threaten their network connectivity, like make data available there that the upstream (or someone paying the upstream) finds objectionable, *POOF*, you are gone.
Good idea, poor implementation until they can "hide" their network connectivity.
And if you don't agree,
Do you guys do ANY research before posting?
Telenet does sell hardware with Linux on it, just as WC does sell a "Distro" of Linux.
I've not seen anything about that changing, have you?
I'm assuming that if BSDi started doing technical support for Linux that would mean that they are trying to "corner" that market as well?
And, as always,
BSD/OS has pretty good SMP from what I understand.
I was wrong once, and if this is #2,
As someone else has stated so nicely, the vast majority of FreeBSD coders are NOT employed by WC/BSDi/Telenet (whatever the glom is called).
The "heavy lifting" is still done (as far as I am aware) by the community, just the "Distribution" (gawd I hate that term) by WC, and BSD/OS by BSDi.
Hardware being done by Telenet seems a good thing, but that is for a different thread
And if you don't agree with me,
No, I've never screwed up anything on my own web pages, and even if I had,
As I stated in a previous (or latter) post, it appears that Telenet is primarily a "clone" vendor without any "real" hardware of their own.
As long as they don't suddenly start creating their own motherboards, or whatever, the only bias is toward making sure that the software sold by one division(?) of the company works on the hardware that is sold by another division of the company.
Seems like a non-problem to me.
but if it is,
I think that Telenet was a reseller of BSD/OS, not a "client" in the strict sense of the word. Since it seems that most of Telenet's products are "clone" type boxes, I also don't see exactly how this locks anyone into anything. What it DOES do is allow a corporation to buy pre-tested and "approved" hardware without worrying about compatibility issues
Isn't the basis of a free market that clients keep their options open? I bet if Microsoft would do this the world would be screaming murder.
What? Brand hardware for resale? Like the "Microsoft Ergonomic Keyboard" the "Microsoft Mouse", the "Microsoft Super-Gizmo-Whirly Joystick"? How about "Microsoft Hotmail", "Microsoft Frontpage", and "Microsoft SourceSafe" just to name a few.
Or, you could be joking, and if you were,
Gee, I hate to poke holes in such deep research, BUT.. if you look at Telenet's homepage, you will see references to "Intel / Alpha / Sparc".
Perhaps you looked at the wrong company?
Don't Forget,
Simple to remove if needed, no requirement to pay M$ a royalty, and a relatively good test of the hardware.
Were you expecting blank disks?
Rember,
While BSD/OS (what you are calling BSDI) is not perfect, it is far from "unstable", and unless Telenet was trying to pawn off old software, it was probably not "outdated".
Lastly, BSD/OS is not a "distro" but a distinct variant of the BSD line of operating systems.
I'm assuming that for whatever reason you are not working there anymore? I'd like to know how the big transition went.
Have a GREAT day, and remember,