He made a comment without realizing that other people would react to it. He is now saying that the same thing happened with his memo.
What exactly are you arguing for here? That free speech should be denied if pointing out someone's lack of awareness makes them uncomfortable? Or that people should merely self-censor if it might upset someone?
There is definitely a shortage of embedded software engineers around here, and a lot of the ones that are available only want to do contract work. Companies dislike contracting for embedded because it's not like they can hand the completed code off to a normal software engineer for maintenance, and often they lack the skills to even write a suitable requirements spec to get the contractor to produce what they want.
Maybe Upwork is not giving you accurate information, but I had to disable my voicemail it got so bad when I recently updated my CV.
Can you imagine if the crowd in Las Vegas had tried to fight back? People would have been shooting at anyone holding a gun, or towards the hotel and into other rooms and the lot in front of it. Pretty sure more people would have died, not fewer.
Are they though? Taken in the context of "this is why women are less suited to engineering jobs" they don't seem very benign.
Try to imagine if the argument was that testosterone made men worse nurses, and you were trying to make it as a nurse. Imagine if you were black and some "rational" pointed out that statistically people with your skin colour have smaller skulls and thus smaller brains, and score lower on IQ tests so maybe it's not the poverty or the systemic racism that is making your life harder it's just that you were born too dumb to succeed.
The basic problem is that his memo didn't engage with a century of study into these issues, which have already debunked it.
See, instant -1 Flamebait. The problem is not progressives being offended, it's the right wing snowflakes who can't stand any hurt feelings or suggestion that they are wrong. It's an epidemic on Slashdot and the wider internet.
His problem is that he does that classic "internet rational" thing of looking up some studies that support his established view, not reading them carefully enough and ignoring the historical context.
It's not just the Google memo either. Take this now deleted tweet:
The KKK is horrible and I donâ(TM)t support them in any way, but can we admit that their internal title names are cool, e.g. âoeGrand Wizardâ?
An extremely naive person might agree that "grand wizard" does sound kinda cool, because they don't know the historical context. The KKK chose those silly names to make themselves sound harmless. It's a simple, childish trick but one that people like Damore fall for. Their names are not cool at all, the correct adjective is deceptive.
So while I'm sure he doesn't intend to support the KKK in any way, unfortunately by ignoring this context and stating that their names are "cool" without further comment, he is helping them.
If anything the problem is that his memo tried too hard to be rational, to the point where it blinkered him to issues that don't have simple statistical definitions.
For example, he says that women are on average more neurotic, and that explains some of the gender gap. The problem with this argument is that it minimizes the other issues that cause the gap, which was in fact the entire point of his memo. It's also a huge generalization and the conclusion massively exaggerates the significance of the test results.
Damore also undermines his claim to be rational with his tweets. Once fired and free to speak his mind without filter, it becomes obvious what his biases are.
A since deleted tweet documented here also demonstrates just how naive Damore is, and how he fails to understand historical context before making bold statements.
because it would hurt feelings is not acceptable
Unfortunately, it is very hard to have a rational conversation about these issues because Damore supporters mod down any dissent as "flamebait" or "troll".
Actually, they lack a nose mounted camera that can see the road right in front of the car. They couldn't do an overhead 360 degree view with their current hardware.
The side cameras are monochrome plus red too, so the image would be in black and white.
Even that would be preferable to nothing though. They could do side and rear view. At the moment all they have is a rear camera view.
They had a rain sensor in the V1 hardware but ditched it for V2. Their plan was to use the cameras instead but their software is really struggling to get existing features to work properly.
It's kind of a joke, isn't it? A 100k car missing really basic features because their software engineers are struggling.
Did I mention that their current hardware doesn't even do basic stuff like auto rain sensing and 360 degree cameras. The Model X is an amazing car in many ways, but also lacks stuff that is standard on cars costing 1/5th as much. The promises of firmware updates that take years to come are not a substitute.
It makes me wonder how many engineers they have working on it when they can't get this basic stuff finished.
On the one hand, the technology is cool, the cars are amazing and Musk has done more than any other individual to push electric vehicles forward. I might buy a Model X next year, in fact.
On the other hand, Tesla is selling full self driving as an option ($3000) to be delivered by firmware update at some indeterminate point in the future. They already massively exaggerated what their current Autopilot can do, their current AP2.0/2.5 hardware hasn't even reached feature parity with the old 1.0 hardware, and if you were to start a lease on a new Tesla today there is a good chance you would never actually see FSD before handing the car back.
He was widely condemned for trying to conflate his abuse with his sexuality. For decades gay people have had problems with people associating their sexuality with perversion, and he decides to come out at the same time as admitting to being a pervert.
For about a week there were multiple stories about him on the front page of every paper and every general news site. Most of them were very negative. He lost his career, even edited out of an up coming movie.
So, in other words, a person should not be able to try to hook up or date anyone below their "strata"?
No, but when they have influence over the prospects of the person want to hook up with they need to be extremely careful to say the least. Imagine if your boss started flirting with you, would you really not expect there to be any negative repercussions to turning them down?
There are other issues here. It's a security conference, an odd one perhaps but still, it's not exactly a venue people go to in order to hook up. And it seems that some of the people he propositioned may have been under 18. What is the age of consent in that state?
Are you really trying to suggest that Lewis CK, a successful guy in an industry where who you know is everything, had no power over women at the start of their careers trying to break in?
He had a great deal of influence in the community, due to his living legend status.
The same as other celebrities who do this kind of thing. They use their fame and the offer of access to the circles they move on, as well as the perception that their fame makes them untouchable.
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He made a comment without realizing that other people would react to it. He is now saying that the same thing happened with his memo.
What exactly are you arguing for here? That free speech should be denied if pointing out someone's lack of awareness makes them uncomfortable? Or that people should merely self-censor if it might upset someone?
Speaking of projection...
Defend the down-modding of my post as flamebait. Explain why it is purely inflammatory and malicious.
Otherwise you have to accept that it's just people who are offended and upset trying to silence anyone who disagrees with them.
There is definitely a shortage of embedded software engineers around here, and a lot of the ones that are available only want to do contract work. Companies dislike contracting for embedded because it's not like they can hand the completed code off to a normal software engineer for maintenance, and often they lack the skills to even write a suitable requirements spec to get the contractor to produce what they want.
Maybe Upwork is not giving you accurate information, but I had to disable my voicemail it got so bad when I recently updated my CV.
Can you imagine if the crowd in Las Vegas had tried to fight back? People would have been shooting at anyone holding a gun, or towards the hotel and into other rooms and the lot in front of it. Pretty sure more people would have died, not fewer.
benign facts
Are they though? Taken in the context of "this is why women are less suited to engineering jobs" they don't seem very benign.
Try to imagine if the argument was that testosterone made men worse nurses, and you were trying to make it as a nurse. Imagine if you were black and some "rational" pointed out that statistically people with your skin colour have smaller skulls and thus smaller brains, and score lower on IQ tests so maybe it's not the poverty or the systemic racism that is making your life harder it's just that you were born too dumb to succeed.
The basic problem is that his memo didn't engage with a century of study into these issues, which have already debunked it.
See, instant -1 Flamebait. The problem is not progressives being offended, it's the right wing snowflakes who can't stand any hurt feelings or suggestion that they are wrong. It's an epidemic on Slashdot and the wider internet.
His problem is that he does that classic "internet rational" thing of looking up some studies that support his established view, not reading them carefully enough and ignoring the historical context.
It's not just the Google memo either. Take this now deleted tweet:
The KKK is horrible and I donâ(TM)t support them in any way, but can we admit that their internal title names are cool, e.g. âoeGrand Wizardâ?
An extremely naive person might agree that "grand wizard" does sound kinda cool, because they don't know the historical context. The KKK chose those silly names to make themselves sound harmless. It's a simple, childish trick but one that people like Damore fall for. Their names are not cool at all, the correct adjective is deceptive.
So while I'm sure he doesn't intend to support the KKK in any way, unfortunately by ignoring this context and stating that their names are "cool" without further comment, he is helping them.
If anything the problem is that his memo tried too hard to be rational, to the point where it blinkered him to issues that don't have simple statistical definitions.
For example, he says that women are on average more neurotic, and that explains some of the gender gap. The problem with this argument is that it minimizes the other issues that cause the gap, which was in fact the entire point of his memo. It's also a huge generalization and the conclusion massively exaggerates the significance of the test results.
Damore also undermines his claim to be rational with his tweets. Once fired and free to speak his mind without filter, it becomes obvious what his biases are.
https://twitter.com/JamesADamo...
https://twitter.com/JamesADamo...
A since deleted tweet documented here also demonstrates just how naive Damore is, and how he fails to understand historical context before making bold statements.
because it would hurt feelings is not acceptable
Unfortunately, it is very hard to have a rational conversation about these issues because Damore supporters mod down any dissent as "flamebait" or "troll".
Fucks sake, years of shitposting and I don't even make the list
Actually, they lack a nose mounted camera that can see the road right in front of the car. They couldn't do an overhead 360 degree view with their current hardware.
The side cameras are monochrome plus red too, so the image would be in black and white.
Even that would be preferable to nothing though. They could do side and rear view. At the moment all they have is a rear camera view.
They had a rain sensor in the V1 hardware but ditched it for V2. Their plan was to use the cameras instead but their software is really struggling to get existing features to work properly.
It's kind of a joke, isn't it? A 100k car missing really basic features because their software engineers are struggling.
Did I mention that their current hardware doesn't even do basic stuff like auto rain sensing and 360 degree cameras. The Model X is an amazing car in many ways, but also lacks stuff that is standard on cars costing 1/5th as much. The promises of firmware updates that take years to come are not a substitute.
It makes me wonder how many engineers they have working on it when they can't get this basic stuff finished.
I have mixed feelings about Tesla.
On the one hand, the technology is cool, the cars are amazing and Musk has done more than any other individual to push electric vehicles forward. I might buy a Model X next year, in fact.
On the other hand, Tesla is selling full self driving as an option ($3000) to be delivered by firmware update at some indeterminate point in the future. They already massively exaggerated what their current Autopilot can do, their current AP2.0/2.5 hardware hasn't even reached feature parity with the old 1.0 hardware, and if you were to start a lease on a new Tesla today there is a good chance you would never actually see FSD before handing the car back.
He was widely condemned for trying to conflate his abuse with his sexuality. For decades gay people have had problems with people associating their sexuality with perversion, and he decides to come out at the same time as admitting to being a pervert.
Multiple women accused him of masturbating in front of them WITHOUT their consent. He admitted it.
Don't take my word for it, here's a couple of sources from different sides of the political spectrum confirming it:
http://www.foxnews.com/enterta...
https://www.nytimes.com/2017/1...
Fox News is just a blog for "left-wingers"?
Your calibration is fucked dude. Fox News is pretty far right. If you got a little further right than Fox News, you meet literal Nazis.
It's such a ridiculous, outlandish claim, I just wanted to check.
For about a week there were multiple stories about him on the front page of every paper and every general news site. Most of them were very negative. He lost his career, even edited out of an up coming movie.
The Spacey thing seems to prove otherwise.
So, in other words, a person should not be able to try to hook up or date anyone below their "strata"?
No, but when they have influence over the prospects of the person want to hook up with they need to be extremely careful to say the least. Imagine if your boss started flirting with you, would you really not expect there to be any negative repercussions to turning them down?
There are other issues here. It's a security conference, an odd one perhaps but still, it's not exactly a venue people go to in order to hook up. And it seems that some of the people he propositioned may have been under 18. What is the age of consent in that state?
Are you really trying to suggest that Lewis CK, a successful guy in an industry where who you know is everything, had no power over women at the start of their careers trying to break in?
He had a great deal of influence in the community, due to his living legend status.
The same as other celebrities who do this kind of thing. They use their fame and the offer of access to the circles they move on, as well as the perception that their fame makes them untouchable.
A lot of people appreciate the freedom they get from Kodi. A commercial app would never allow arbitrary add-ons, and would doubtless force ads in.
A lot of people appreciate open source firmware for phones and routers that would otherwise be bricked.
The really shocking part is that they had to assign staff to keep him away from teenagers, but didn't actually ban him or anything.
People distrust the media, that's why they turn to social media for news and why posts on social media from "real people" carry more weight for them.