Stop the childish attempts to put me on the defensive. Grow up and discuss the subject matter like an adult.
Go pitch this to them
How Comcast feels is irrelevant. You go to their shareholders and you buy the stock, and keep buying until you get a 50.1% majority, then vote the board out.
You make this sound like science fiction. A large enough block of cash and stock controls the discussion. Comcast can fall just like U.S. Steel and Texaco and TWA and Marvel and Hostess all the other companies that have been bought out. It's just business.
We bought half the shares in the company and the Executive Board was fired before they made it to the meeting room.
You don't even begin to have an idea of what it takes for a hostile takeover. By the time you get to 15% of the stock your intentions are going to be known
Our intentions are known when we file our 13-d at 5% ownership. You have no idea what I know. Stop lecturing.
You finally get to 51% of the voting stock ownership and what happens?
You vote out the board and install your own. Or, even better, you sell off the assets and distribute the proceeds to the shareholders, turn off the lights and go home.
All the filing paperwork and tracking down and sending out notices to all the other stockholders, I think he mentioned it only costs him tens of millions of dollars. As you say, "chickenshit money"
Tens of milions of dollars is chickenshit if you control Comcast.
Carl Icahn is worth $20 billion. I think his approach worked.
The corporatocracy will not allow us (say even if you did get a kickstarter or other such crowd funded initiative) to dominate Comcast.
By doing what? Comcast is publicly traded.
Comcast would have no shortage of tools to put it down.
You sound paranoid. Carl Icahn has made a living off of buying companies using hostile bids and (in his words) "fucking bad management." All of these tools (some allegedly wielded by far more nimble companies than Comcast) were available to them, and didn't stop him.
Majority fan/employee owned ventures are the exception, not the norm,
So? The Internet needs a solution to the net neutrality problem. Buying Comcast would solve the problem for 10% of users outright. Other companies would follow suit for obvious reasons.
coordinating large groups of diverse interests is not easy
Yet according to you, the "corportocracy" is a single-minded entity that will oppose the Internet at every turn.
Raise $100 billion and go after them hard. Even if the initiative fails it will be the last time an American cable company fucks with the Internet.
So now you are going to make it so that any pipe the ISP has, if it becomes saturated with data, they are legally required to upgrade it to a larger pipe?
Competition is needed. Meanwhile, for all the people who are pissed off about Comcast, there is a solution.
Buy a controlling share in the company.
Before you scoff, consider all the companies that would benefit from Comcast not being an obstacle (Google, Netflix, Apple, Charter, Twitter, plus about 100,000 startups). For about $67 billion at the current share price, Comcast could be under new ownership.
$67 billion is chickenshit money up against the assets and revenue of all the parties with a horse in this race.
Vote out the board, fire the management, vote in a new board, hire new management, and turn Comcast into a defender of net neutrality instead of a problem.
That's how capitalism works. You know what the best part is? Ain't a fucking thing Comcast can do about it. The company is publicly traded.
Mobile phone reception is atrociously bad considering the prices mobile companies demand.
In 1960, a phone call could be placed from any point in the United States to any other point in the United States and the sound quality would be consistently good.
Now you can't make a call down the street without it sounding like the person at the other end is being beamed through an interdimensional time warp.
Violence happens when otherwise friendly people are provoked. In the case of the poor, it's usually when they are goaded by someone in a position of power. We've all seen the peculiar attitude rich and powerful people develop when they feel free to jut out their chin and say "what are you going to do about it?"
Alcholism happens when powerless people have nowhere else to hide.
People who are powerless become destructive: either to themselves or others. The reason this situation persists is because there are people in this world who are never held accountable for their single-minded pursuit of making other people powerless.
Memorandum to the guy who wrote the original story:
Almost everyone on Slashdot in 2014 is a raging, gangrene-infected, pus-spewing asshole. I don't think there's ever been a more sour, mouth-running bunch of twaddle-shoveling fucks in the same place in human history.
You posted a good article with some good information for reasonable people who are doing something productive. The people here are only interested in their bong, porn, Xbox and wandering through their mom's kitchen occasionally to grab a handful of potato salad and wipe their ass on the dishtowel.
Keep writing. The people around here would shit on an orphan's birthday cake.
I think we've all had about enough of the false dichotomy of "well, this is super-expensive and the only way to justify any endeavor is for it to be cheap."
The best option would be an American mission. That way American scientists and engineers and citizens can combine their efforts to accomplish something together. Who knows? It might even create a job or two.
And if the European Space Agency wants to launch a mission, they are welcome to do so.
Apple tips over the edge and begins the downward slide.
All the future failures will simply make the accomplishments of early 21st century Apple shine that much brighter. We were all very fortunate to have been a part of it.
Well, look at it this way: if it weren't for America, there wouldn't be a Cosmos television series.
What does it mean to be an American? It means you value human achievement. Americans are courageous enough to not only want to explore, but to insist on it. It drove us across the Atlantic Ocean and across North America, and then to the moon.
In the process we invented the modern world, which is one of the things that makes advanced science possible.
If it restores America's manned spaceflight program, then it will be worth it.
Almost every cultural intersection between science and the human spirit since the early 1920s originated in man's mission to reach space and other planets. One could argue conclusively that America's peak was July 20th, 1969.
It is true that since then we have lost our way. But that, like many other things, is a fixable problem, provided America rediscovers its soul and remembers what it means to be an American.
If lenders are allowed to commit multiple felonies in the process of loaning money and then multiple accessory felonies in the subsequent sale and fraudulent securitization of those loans, then attempting to rationalize their acts by appealing to the concept of "fair play" makes you look like a particularly cheap shill.
Where in the constitution does it say that the president and congress can NOT prepare for a coming disaster?
In the two amendments between the eighth and the eleventh.
I'm not a Republican, nor am I memeber of the Tea Party. Personally I think you need to find a better response to reasonable policy recommendations than "teabagger."
The difference between our government and others is that we have a Constitution which restrains corruption. The further we drift from the law, the more lawless we become.
We are fortunate that Madison was prescient in this thinking and chose to include a mechanism for recovering control in the face of a thoroughly corrupt federal government.
The states will do their duty, and it will be a signal to the world that the American People are both resilient and well equipped to handle any challenge.
Congress has no constitutional authority to appropriate a "Climate Resilience Fund." The president is not fulfilling his oath or duty. We are seventeen trillion dollars in debt. Neither party has proposed a single constitutional solution in years.
They are all corrupt. All of them. Every last one. Congress, the president and the Supreme Court should be either voted out of office or impeached as appropriate and removed from their offices forthwith.
The federal government no longer functions. The states of this union must convene an Article V convention and propose amendments for ratification by the state legislatures. Only by that constitutionally mandated power can the states restrain the federal government and restore balance to national governance.
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We also expect that WhatsApp will add to our efforts for Internet.org, our partnership to make basic internet services affordable for everyone
Yet another attempt to control the Internet.
They're coming. And they will not stop until they own it or destroy it.
The Internet is humanity's last chance, boys and girls. We lose it and we're looking at 1000 years of darkness.
Sorry you're bitter about it.
Stop the childish attempts to put me on the defensive. Grow up and discuss the subject matter like an adult.
Go pitch this to them
How Comcast feels is irrelevant. You go to their shareholders and you buy the stock, and keep buying until you get a 50.1% majority, then vote the board out.
You make this sound like science fiction. A large enough block of cash and stock controls the discussion. Comcast can fall just like U.S. Steel and Texaco and TWA and Marvel and Hostess all the other companies that have been bought out. It's just business.
We bought half the shares in the company and the Executive Board was fired before they made it to the meeting room.
You don't even begin to have an idea of what it takes for a hostile takeover. By the time you get to 15% of the stock your intentions are going to be known
Our intentions are known when we file our 13-d at 5% ownership. You have no idea what I know. Stop lecturing.
You finally get to 51% of the voting stock ownership and what happens?
You vote out the board and install your own. Or, even better, you sell off the assets and distribute the proceeds to the shareholders, turn off the lights and go home.
All the filing paperwork and tracking down and sending out notices to all the other stockholders, I think he mentioned it only costs him tens of millions of dollars. As you say, "chickenshit money"
Tens of milions of dollars is chickenshit if you control Comcast.
Carl Icahn is worth $20 billion. I think his approach worked.
The corporatocracy will not allow us (say even if you did get a kickstarter or other such crowd funded initiative) to dominate Comcast.
By doing what? Comcast is publicly traded.
Comcast would have no shortage of tools to put it down.
You sound paranoid. Carl Icahn has made a living off of buying companies using hostile bids and (in his words) "fucking bad management." All of these tools (some allegedly wielded by far more nimble companies than Comcast) were available to them, and didn't stop him.
Majority fan/employee owned ventures are the exception, not the norm,
So? The Internet needs a solution to the net neutrality problem. Buying Comcast would solve the problem for 10% of users outright. Other companies would follow suit for obvious reasons.
coordinating large groups of diverse interests is not easy
Yet according to you, the "corportocracy" is a single-minded entity that will oppose the Internet at every turn.
Raise $100 billion and go after them hard. Even if the initiative fails it will be the last time an American cable company fucks with the Internet.
So now you are going to make it so that any pipe the ISP has, if it becomes saturated with data, they are legally required to upgrade it to a larger pipe?
Yes.
http://articles.philly.com/201...
A sufficiently motivated takeover coalition with sufficient capital can defeat any gimmick.
My original statement stands.
One way or another, there will be throttling.
Right up to the point where we make it illegal.
Do you think more rules will help?
No. But buying Comcast will.
Competition is needed. Meanwhile, for all the people who are pissed off about Comcast, there is a solution.
Buy a controlling share in the company.
Before you scoff, consider all the companies that would benefit from Comcast not being an obstacle (Google, Netflix, Apple, Charter, Twitter, plus about 100,000 startups). For about $67 billion at the current share price, Comcast could be under new ownership.
$67 billion is chickenshit money up against the assets and revenue of all the parties with a horse in this race.
Vote out the board, fire the management, vote in a new board, hire new management, and turn Comcast into a defender of net neutrality instead of a problem.
That's how capitalism works. You know what the best part is? Ain't a fucking thing Comcast can do about it. The company is publicly traded.
Mobile phone reception is atrociously bad considering the prices mobile companies demand.
In 1960, a phone call could be placed from any point in the United States to any other point in the United States and the sound quality would be consistently good.
Now you can't make a call down the street without it sounding like the person at the other end is being beamed through an interdimensional time warp.
Violence happens when otherwise friendly people are provoked. In the case of the poor, it's usually when they are goaded by someone in a position of power. We've all seen the peculiar attitude rich and powerful people develop when they feel free to jut out their chin and say "what are you going to do about it?"
Alcholism happens when powerless people have nowhere else to hide.
People who are powerless become destructive: either to themselves or others. The reason this situation persists is because there are people in this world who are never held accountable for their single-minded pursuit of making other people powerless.
Memorandum to the guy who wrote the original story:
Almost everyone on Slashdot in 2014 is a raging, gangrene-infected, pus-spewing asshole. I don't think there's ever been a more sour, mouth-running bunch of twaddle-shoveling fucks in the same place in human history.
You posted a good article with some good information for reasonable people who are doing something productive. The people here are only interested in their bong, porn, Xbox and wandering through their mom's kitchen occasionally to grab a handful of potato salad and wipe their ass on the dishtowel.
Keep writing. The people around here would shit on an orphan's birthday cake.
Only if you also consider the $3 billion a day being pumped into Wall Street a coincidence.
Of course they don't compete. Cable companies have government-sanctioned monopolies.
I'd say give them a choice. You can merge if you relinquish your monopoly.
Then we'll see what's most important to them.
I think we've all had about enough of the false dichotomy of "well, this is super-expensive and the only way to justify any endeavor is for it to be cheap."
Great accomplishments are never cheap.
The best option would be an American mission. That way American scientists and engineers and citizens can combine their efforts to accomplish something together. Who knows? It might even create a job or two.
And if the European Space Agency wants to launch a mission, they are welcome to do so.
Apple tips over the edge and begins the downward slide.
All the future failures will simply make the accomplishments of early 21st century Apple shine that much brighter. We were all very fortunate to have been a part of it.
Well, look at it this way: if it weren't for America, there wouldn't be a Cosmos television series.
What does it mean to be an American? It means you value human achievement. Americans are courageous enough to not only want to explore, but to insist on it. It drove us across the Atlantic Ocean and across North America, and then to the moon.
In the process we invented the modern world, which is one of the things that makes advanced science possible.
If it restores America's manned spaceflight program, then it will be worth it.
Almost every cultural intersection between science and the human spirit since the early 1920s originated in man's mission to reach space and other planets. One could argue conclusively that America's peak was July 20th, 1969.
It is true that since then we have lost our way. But that, like many other things, is a fixable problem, provided America rediscovers its soul and remembers what it means to be an American.
"Regulate commerce" is not a synonym for "Divine Right of Kings."
If lenders are allowed to commit multiple felonies in the process of loaning money and then multiple accessory felonies in the subsequent sale and fraudulent securitization of those loans, then attempting to rationalize their acts by appealing to the concept of "fair play" makes you look like a particularly cheap shill.
I think you've pretty much lost your credibility at this point. Enjoy your fantasy world.
The name calling only makes you sound childish.
Nowhere in Article I Section 8 is Congress suffered the power to appropriate a "Climate Change Fund."
And what Article I does not specifically allow, the Tenth Amendment prohibits. Case closed.
Where in the constitution does it say that the president and congress can NOT prepare for a coming disaster?
In the two amendments between the eighth and the eleventh.
I'm not a Republican, nor am I memeber of the Tea Party. Personally I think you need to find a better response to reasonable policy recommendations than "teabagger."
The difference between our government and others is that we have a Constitution which restrains corruption. The further we drift from the law, the more lawless we become.
We are fortunate that Madison was prescient in this thinking and chose to include a mechanism for recovering control in the face of a thoroughly corrupt federal government.
The states will do their duty, and it will be a signal to the world that the American People are both resilient and well equipped to handle any challenge.
Congress has no constitutional authority to appropriate a "Climate Resilience Fund." The president is not fulfilling his oath or duty. We are seventeen trillion dollars in debt. Neither party has proposed a single constitutional solution in years.
They are all corrupt. All of them. Every last one. Congress, the president and the Supreme Court should be either voted out of office or impeached as appropriate and removed from their offices forthwith.
The federal government no longer functions. The states of this union must convene an Article V convention and propose amendments for ratification by the state legislatures. Only by that constitutionally mandated power can the states restrain the federal government and restore balance to national governance.