Cad users and artists occasionally use Linux. Shriek used Linux on Nvidia for all 3 movies with a SGI to put the animations together in one package with renderman.
Most Linux users are Windows 98 users who have a sworn allegience agaisn't the old MS and hope people will magically wake up and switch and have not touched Windows since unless forced to by work. I used to be one of these users who just wanted to code without a crippled learning edition of visual C++ when the price to develop software went up through the roof! IN 1999 Linux and FreeBSD had thousands of free tools, free compilers, a million WMs for a custom gui and so on. Windows NT just seemed... well rather dull and plain afterwards.
In 2012 the situation has changed. You can get free or low cost compilers and the languages of linux (perl, php, python, java) are now free and well supported on Windows. The gui in Linux is HORRIBLE! Mate is an exception but I already gave up. I am older now and need to get my career in kick ass order learning Microsoft products so I can pay my bills and retire. Not play with machines while I have many many more years to be an idealist.
Windows does seem more dull and frankly like a boring white cuble office. I use VMWare now to run Linux and other operating systems as needed and World of Warcraft, SWTOR, and other things run supperior on Windows. I have some of my tools on Windows and can boot a virtual OS to play with.
Anyway that is the appeal for many slashdotters and at least for me.
I love my ATI and it works with Linux fine (ati 5750), yet it is not perfect. Never buy tech on a promise? I have been burned by Nvidia for years though they have supposedly excellent Linux support. They die, blackscreen, overheat. Maybe it is the PNY brand? Who knows.
ATI has the best hardware. Nvidia has the best software. Your choice will depend on which you value most? ATI is not perfect as I had some bizaare driver bugs in Windows. I am running a beta driver now because of the erratic frame rate story posted on slashdot. So far so good in that release. I have not experienced a single BSOD, but just stuff like overscan on HDMI not working with some driver versions and youtube videos not scaling up when you click on the button.
I prefer supperior hardware as I can always revert if I have a crappy driver but do not have the cash to buy another nvidia card when it fails for some reason. I could have just had bad luck with mine and found a rare gem with my asus ati 5750 that came with my system.
Also I do not game under Linux or run 3d modelling so I do not stress it with my ATI. Just run compiz and videos. I do gaming occasionally on Windows though so I guess if you run Blender on Linux perhaps an NVidia might be worth alook?
He is middle aged and knows better. He doesn't click on shit or go to weird sites. He also doesn't use IE. THerefore a AV scanner is not needed especially if you have a firewall. AV software is for wusses according to these folks and I am sure his 3 year old version of flash and 5 year old unpatched Java on his machine are no match to the mighty security of running firefox!
Don't believe me? Just ask any slashdotter who has not used Windows in 12 years. They know what they are talking about when it comes to Windows security as they post this all the time.
I could find a few too. LIke World of Warcraft. And Blizzard have always been fair, open, and prepared to consider the possibility that any given ban might have been a mistake on their part.
Difference is Blizzard doesn't get to deplete your assets and equipment and t hen turn around jump rates 400% after 6 months leaving you out to dry! If Blizzard did raise the rates you switch go SWTOR or GW2.
A business who switches to the cloud depreciates its equipment and is now dependent. After switching they are held hostage as their data is on Oracle and Oracle can just change the contract at will after you are at their mercy. It is the reason why IT costs keep going up while IT salaries go down and corps still hang on to obsolete shit and have no room to upgrade. Parasites like Oracle are getting the cash.
It is not to pay an existing bill. It is get you hooked, then rob you after you can't leave. It is similar to the IE 6 situation where once you are in a proprietary infrastructure you can't get out.
Dumb ass, here's a clue for you. Don't put you and your company is a position vulnerability in the first place and you won't have to worry.
HA!
Spoken as someone who has never had a cost accountant and or/addition to a PHB up your ass about wasting money, needing business cases for every action/reaction, and following trends on the latest cost saving measures, or even worse listens to their sales people FIRST and then dictating to you what needs to be done without hearing your input.
If the initial and I may say illegal initial bait and switch shows cost savings they will sell their soul to get it done!
Now 3 months later after you fire half your IT team and get rid of all but 3 servers and Oracle raises rates by 350% what are you going to do? Say I told you so? No you will be fired for making your bosses boss look bad.
If they do not want companies to leave the companies would have to slash wages and benefits. Yes it sounds nice on paper but in reality owners will not pay a full price for someone to work half the time. So yes such discouraged workers would then have to get a 2nd job just to pay the rent.
I bet companies would quickly panic and leave the state for greener pastures leaving the rest of the unemployed workforce to fight over those part time jobs at McDonalds and Walmart!
First off, the calculation for interest includes costs of goods excluding food, energy, insurance, housing, and services (correct me if I am wrong on the services part as I heard mixed things).
What has gone up 200% to 300% in 20 years? Insurance, gas, food, housing, etc.
They are simply not counted! Sure it looks like the US is doing fine but try living in San Fransisco today on $42,000 a year? Now adjust for inflation 15 years ago in San Fransisco at $35,000 a year?
Could you survive in SanFransisco in 1996 with $35,000 a year? Absolutely! You could rent a basement in a borderline part of the city. Your health insurance rates would be $40 a month. Gas would be $.79 a gallon. You could get a foot long sub at Subway for lunch for $3.99! You could even take the other half home for dinner for 2 meals.
Today in San Fransisco. You would have to live with someone else in your room 40 miles away! You would pay $4.000 a gallon. Your health insurance would cost $500 a month. That subway meal costs $7.99. Your rent would be 2x even if you do not have your own damn room as it would in the city itself.
Inflation is a huge problem and it is caused the federal reserve printing money left and right. It goes to the rich people who then lower interest rates due to the excess of cash. They then buy homes and raise rents and mortgages. The lower interest rates mean insurance companies have to raise rates to get profits. The extra cash is then used to speculate food prices such as the wheat in your subway sandwich. Products have not gone up as much due to China and a poor economy but it ignores speculatives like oil, food, insurance, and other activities.
I am under the impression the opposite is true as I keep hearing corporations are sitting on a mountain of cash but can't reinvest because the shareholders will have a fit! The lower costs and higher productivity plus more markets like Asia would make me think they are making money hand over fist than 40 years ago!
What caused Michigan to become a right to work state was that an auto supplier moved to Fort Wayne Indiana just across the border because of lower taxes and cheaper wages. Ford is moving plants to Alabama and Japanese car companies are opening plants there and in south carolina and are willing to lose money importing parts from Ohio and Michagan!
Why pay more for this inefficiency? Cheaper wages and lower taxes. It is accounting 101. I am not saying small taxes create jobs out of thin air. I am saying existing companies will find the cheapest source of labor and parts to cut costs and maximize shareholder value. It is a fact.
20 years ago auto companies want to stay close to Michigan and Ohio because that is where all the other parts suppliers are as well as trained workers and customers. Now it is worth paying more to save greater costs with less rules, unions, wages, and taxes. Evidence is everywhere.
I was being sarcastic as I am annoyed at the attitude of cost center if it is an investment central to the business. That is dumb and while it looks good on spreadsheets which do not measure opportunity costs and other things unmeasurable, they have consequences long term.
Not everyone is an engineer. 10 years ago I had a choice to be an engineer and people on slashdot advised me to persue something else as Indians would have all these jobs by now. BIG MISTAKE.
People can't see the future.
I think being a business owner is the only way to make money in this new economy. There is the few owners who are rich and a few middle who got in earlier before 2001. AND A TON scrapping and waging wars with each other and who can work for the cheapest and cost accountants gleaming at the lower costs each year. I was looking for a 2nd job at a FED EX center for the holidays.
In 1991 they paid $20/hr. Today they pay $8/hr. What the hell?! But why charge that? There are so many college grads working these jobs today and people who are desperate they can simply pay less.
I guess find a niche and try to do everything yourself. You never win working for someone else.
All the employers I see still use IE 6 and XP and refuse to classify anything IT related as anything, but a cost center that adds no value?
10 years ago this was the thinking but not know. It is about cost accounting and getting ahead by staying behind and putting all your eggs in one basket like what we saw in Thailand.
Employers mostly are pennywise, but dollar dumb. Not all of them are like this, but the vast majority are today. Maybe I am wrong as the pendulum may swing in the other direction soon. However, right now I do not see that. What has happened is many public companies get a surge in the share price over 30 years and investors want to see this every quarter!
There is no room for investment nor expansion. Only cost cutting to keep the shareprice rising higher and higher. The problem is since 2008 it never has recovered share price wise. Investors know they have more cash on hand by firing people and keeping ancient systems running, but it is not enough. They want growth, but will fire the CEO for any investment do this. IN essence they are turning to us and asking for more results for less money and less people.
You are a cost center! You do not generate the profit as those brilliant CEOs who sit around all day and think on the golf course. Nor are you as important as those middle managers who just sit on meeting and send 100 emails a day to interrupt workers so they can talk about what they are going to do rather than producing.
I do not know about other countries, but here in Belgium there is a tax on power equipment, e.g. electro-motor based things, in function of the power.
Boy, if that wont get manufactures to leave your country and go to China I do not know what will! I hope your friends and family enjoy unemployment. It makes sense to move the office workers too close to where the Asian robots are. More money and a higher shareprice for the CEOs bonus
Property taxes are probably the fairest tax of all if you ask the most anti tax advocates.
The sole reason is you can voluntarily decide how much you pay in taxes. If you are poor you pay nothing as you rent. If you are middle class but want to save not keep up with the Joneses you pay less. If you want to be irresponsible you pay more.
Also in places like Texas with no income tax but higher property taxes home values are still affordable. Why is that? For this reason and that helps the middle class more yet pays for more services as well.
First off you can't clone yourself in another country as a clone you and just tell your employer to send it your cloned self.
We can't for example buy a mailbox in New Jersey while our apartment is in New York and claim to be New Jersey residents. Right?
A corp can do just this. By these cloned shells.
In essence we can't get no taxes unless your employer agrees to pay in just shares and dividends on an offshore account. The IRS will be on them in a millisecond! They have computer programs to detect this. So if an employer is paying you a stub will show the IRS how much you make and you shall pay that amount! There is no way around this as long as they pay you cash you are then taxed.
It is totally unfair. Maximizing shareholder value yadda yadda. What about my value? The tax laws favor the rich extremely in this country.
Here's the problem: Those laws/rules/loopholes/allowances etc were created by the money influences which are benefiting from them.
Hmm, so the "money influences" decided that the average taxpayer needed a "standard deduction", right?
Or a deduction for mortgage interest paid?
Or, at various State levels a "homestead exemption" to Property Taxes?
Just a few of the more obvious examples of LEGAL reductions in tax rates for the "average person". There are more, if you want to bother looking them up. Your tax software will even ask you about them when you get around to doing your income tax return(s)....
Those benefit the very wealthy. True you could benefit if you got in early before the housing boom pre 2003.
Banks love this as it encourages reckless price hikes and irresponsible lending as people buy more than they should so they use the excuse of a tax break. The other 50% of Americans who rent get screwed as we get price hikes and pay for our landlords tax breaks. If I want to buy a home I have to pay 30% more than you did and with interest the price goes up mroe like 45% over time!
How is that fair?
That loophole is hurting revenue too and I am favor of eliminating it. Of course since you own a home I bet you will revolt with pitchforks and torches which complicate the problem. The 47% who owe no taxes are not freeloaders. They are people who bought 3 homes in 2000 when prices were rock bottom and rent htem and pay no taxes in return while the poorer folks who rent have to pay more in taxes and rent money.
All taxation is unfair. Taxation is, essentially, legalised theft.
No it isn't. It's a means of redistributing wealth, which is why rightwing Americans in particular hate it so much. Some people pay more tax, some less, but it all goes to paying for things that are for the benefit of society as a whole.
No it is not. I agree with the republicans 100% on this! Governments job is to provide an environment where we all can exist, by providing public goods that the private sector can not without enforcement.
-eg. a new road across a lake where a major city is at.
In the above examples I can simply not pay for either and enjoy the benefits of others paying for it! By a tax I, your neighbor, and the local grocery store all pay. In return our commute time is cut down in half, our property value goes up, and the store gets its produce quicker and cheaper with less man hours.
In other words we all benefit from this taxation and public good. It is never meant to take from you and the grocery store to me who feels I am too good to work at the grocery store and want to live off welfare instead. Republics have limits on welfare and unemployment to prevent this. In that situation everyone but the freeloader losses.
Wealth redistribution is evil and wrong! Yes, poor people have it rough and my heart goes out. THe problem is if you try to help them it encourages job creators to go to other places without these rules and taxes and encourages others not to work or better themselves. Smart spending like above benefits even if it does take away spending it generates more economic activity and that is what taxes and government is originally for.
When we think of capital gains tax we think of Mitt Romney and Wall Street traders who make fortunes for stealing wealth and not producing. What we do not see is grandmas, widows, responsible savers, and even yourself in 30 years. If you live past 60 you will want to retire and where will your income come from?
The answer is capital gains. You get taxed all your life saving and trying to do the right thing and sacrificing keeping up with the Jones only to be taxed again? How is that fair?
Why do we pay taxes? It is fundamentally to pay for public goods that the free market can not provide unless forced too such as schools, roads, military, police, etc. Does Google benefit from this? LIKE HELL YES. It uses public municipalities for its fiber. It uses military and free trade to work in new markets. It uses the education system more than regular employers as they require IQ tests for all employees. These folks got trained on the public dime.
So why shouldn't corps pay taxes too if they also utilize the public goods as much as the private man?
Yes we hate all taxes and they are annoying but just like any bill it is something you pay at the end of every month. Hate cell phone and insurance bills? Try taking the bus to work and not using one? It is the price you pay to live civilly.
Well Bush redefined McDonalds workers as manufacturers. Until you take out the food industry we do not get an accurate picture. I do not own anything in this room that is made in America. Except perhaps a water bottle and a single book out of many others.
I have not seen a single factory except in the 1980s and I have lived in several states. All I see are are places that are service jobs or offices that are consumption based which make everyone poorer. Not anyone that produces anything of value.
Until I see smokestacks, steel mills, and shipyards I say there are hardly any left and McDonalds employees are skewing the numbers.
Sadly no one cares as the banks and credit card companies run the government. What is stupid is if they are smart and see this as a problem it would be in their own self interest interest to lobby for better laws. Sure the shareprice goes up a little more each quarter but a crash is inevitable.
Your quote there is what doomed Britian and it was not until after World War II did it begin to recover.
Evil socialism and regulation be damned. There needs to be limits and caps such as 40k for a student loan, no credit cards allowed for someone on the poverty guidelines etc.
While it is true demand for factory workers will go down in Asia as wages rise. They are already moving some to Vietnam and Thailand as CHinese are asking for more money than they did just a few years ago. However, with 2 trillion plus American dollars sitting in the bank from tax evaders and corporations will go to investment in new companies. Then middle class jobs arise from those as more Chinese have more money to spend.
The US is under debt right now with credit cards, student loans. US treasuries, and a corrupt government who doesn't give a crap. With no production and no money left for investment there is a shortage of middle class jobs. China is still growing while the US reached its max back in 1999.
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Cad users and artists occasionally use Linux. Shriek used Linux on Nvidia for all 3 movies with a SGI to put the animations together in one package with renderman.
Most Linux users are Windows 98 users who have a sworn allegience agaisn't the old MS and hope people will magically wake up and switch and have not touched Windows since unless forced to by work. I used to be one of these users who just wanted to code without a crippled learning edition of visual C++ when the price to develop software went up through the roof! IN 1999 Linux and FreeBSD had thousands of free tools, free compilers, a million WMs for a custom gui and so on. Windows NT just seemed ... well rather dull and plain afterwards.
In 2012 the situation has changed. You can get free or low cost compilers and the languages of linux (perl, php, python, java) are now free and well supported on Windows. The gui in Linux is HORRIBLE! Mate is an exception but I already gave up. I am older now and need to get my career in kick ass order learning Microsoft products so I can pay my bills and retire. Not play with machines while I have many many more years to be an idealist.
Windows does seem more dull and frankly like a boring white cuble office. I use VMWare now to run Linux and other operating systems as needed and World of Warcraft, SWTOR, and other things run supperior on Windows. I have some of my tools on Windows and can boot a virtual OS to play with.
Anyway that is the appeal for many slashdotters and at least for me.
I counter.
I love my ATI and it works with Linux fine (ati 5750), yet it is not perfect. Never buy tech on a promise? I have been burned by Nvidia for years though they have supposedly excellent Linux support. They die, blackscreen, overheat. Maybe it is the PNY brand? Who knows.
ATI has the best hardware. Nvidia has the best software. Your choice will depend on which you value most? ATI is not perfect as I had some bizaare driver bugs in Windows. I am running a beta driver now because of the erratic frame rate story posted on slashdot. So far so good in that release. I have not experienced a single BSOD, but just stuff like overscan on HDMI not working with some driver versions and youtube videos not scaling up when you click on the button.
I prefer supperior hardware as I can always revert if I have a crappy driver but do not have the cash to buy another nvidia card when it fails for some reason. I could have just had bad luck with mine and found a rare gem with my asus ati 5750 that came with my system.
Also I do not game under Linux or run 3d modelling so I do not stress it with my ATI. Just run compiz and videos. I do gaming occasionally on Windows though so I guess if you run Blender on Linux perhaps an NVidia might be worth alook?
Riight.
It only detects 96% of them.
He couldn't be.
He is middle aged and knows better. He doesn't click on shit or go to weird sites. He also doesn't use IE. THerefore a AV scanner is not needed especially if you have a firewall. AV software is for wusses according to these folks and I am sure his 3 year old version of flash and 5 year old unpatched Java on his machine are no match to the mighty security of running firefox!
Don't believe me? Just ask any slashdotter who has not used Windows in 12 years. They know what they are talking about when it comes to Windows security as they post this all the time.
I could find a few too. LIke World of Warcraft. And Blizzard have always been fair, open, and prepared to consider the possibility that any given ban might have been a mistake on their part.
Difference is Blizzard doesn't get to deplete your assets and equipment and t hen turn around jump rates 400% after 6 months leaving you out to dry! If Blizzard did raise the rates you switch go SWTOR or GW2.
A business who switches to the cloud depreciates its equipment and is now dependent. After switching they are held hostage as their data is on Oracle and Oracle can just change the contract at will after you are at their mercy. It is the reason why IT costs keep going up while IT salaries go down and corps still hang on to obsolete shit and have no room to upgrade. Parasites like Oracle are getting the cash.
It is not to pay an existing bill. It is get you hooked, then rob you after you can't leave. It is similar to the IE 6 situation where once you are in a proprietary infrastructure you can't get out.
If you have 1000 workers who need it do their jobs that can run as high as $500,000 easily as they sit their picking their noses with nothing to do!
Dumb ass, here's a clue for you. Don't put you and your company is a position vulnerability in the first place and you won't have to worry.
HA!
Spoken as someone who has never had a cost accountant and or/addition to a PHB up your ass about wasting money, needing business cases for every action/reaction, and following trends on the latest cost saving measures, or even worse listens to their sales people FIRST and then dictating to you what needs to be done without hearing your input.
If the initial and I may say illegal initial bait and switch shows cost savings they will sell their soul to get it done!
Now 3 months later after you fire half your IT team and get rid of all but 3 servers and Oracle raises rates by 350% what are you going to do? Say I told you so? No you will be fired for making your bosses boss look bad.
If they do not want companies to leave the companies would have to slash wages and benefits. Yes it sounds nice on paper but in reality owners will not pay a full price for someone to work half the time. So yes such discouraged workers would then have to get a 2nd job just to pay the rent.
I bet companies would quickly panic and leave the state for greener pastures leaving the rest of the unemployed workforce to fight over those part time jobs at McDonalds and Walmart!
First off, the calculation for interest includes costs of goods excluding food, energy, insurance, housing, and services (correct me if I am wrong on the services part as I heard mixed things).
What has gone up 200% to 300% in 20 years? Insurance, gas, food, housing, etc.
They are simply not counted! Sure it looks like the US is doing fine but try living in San Fransisco today on $42,000 a year? Now adjust for inflation 15 years ago in San Fransisco at $35,000 a year?
Could you survive in SanFransisco in 1996 with $35,000 a year? Absolutely! You could rent a basement in a borderline part of the city. Your health insurance rates would be $40 a month. Gas would be $.79 a gallon. You could get a foot long sub at Subway for lunch for $3.99! You could even take the other half home for dinner for 2 meals.
Today in San Fransisco. You would have to live with someone else in your room 40 miles away! You would pay $4.000 a gallon. Your health insurance would cost $500 a month. That subway meal costs $7.99. Your rent would be 2x even if you do not have your own damn room as it would in the city itself.
Inflation is a huge problem and it is caused the federal reserve printing money left and right. It goes to the rich people who then lower interest rates due to the excess of cash. They then buy homes and raise rents and mortgages. The lower interest rates mean insurance companies have to raise rates to get profits. The extra cash is then used to speculate food prices such as the wheat in your subway sandwich. Products have not gone up as much due to China and a poor economy but it ignores speculatives like oil, food, insurance, and other activities.
Are you sure about this?
I am under the impression the opposite is true as I keep hearing corporations are sitting on a mountain of cash but can't reinvest because the shareholders will have a fit! The lower costs and higher productivity plus more markets like Asia would make me think they are making money hand over fist than 40 years ago!
Yes the auto industry and the news in Michigan.
What caused Michigan to become a right to work state was that an auto supplier moved to Fort Wayne Indiana just across the border because of lower taxes and cheaper wages. Ford is moving plants to Alabama and Japanese car companies are opening plants there and in south carolina and are willing to lose money importing parts from Ohio and Michagan!
Why pay more for this inefficiency? Cheaper wages and lower taxes. It is accounting 101. I am not saying small taxes create jobs out of thin air. I am saying existing companies will find the cheapest source of labor and parts to cut costs and maximize shareholder value. It is a fact.
20 years ago auto companies want to stay close to Michigan and Ohio because that is where all the other parts suppliers are as well as trained workers and customers. Now it is worth paying more to save greater costs with less rules, unions, wages, and taxes. Evidence is everywhere.
I was being sarcastic as I am annoyed at the attitude of cost center if it is an investment central to the business. That is dumb and while it looks good on spreadsheets which do not measure opportunity costs and other things unmeasurable, they have consequences long term.
Not everyone is an engineer. 10 years ago I had a choice to be an engineer and people on slashdot advised me to persue something else as Indians would have all these jobs by now. BIG MISTAKE.
People can't see the future.
I think being a business owner is the only way to make money in this new economy. There is the few owners who are rich and a few middle who got in earlier before 2001. AND A TON scrapping and waging wars with each other and who can work for the cheapest and cost accountants gleaming at the lower costs each year. I was looking for a 2nd job at a FED EX center for the holidays.
In 1991 they paid $20/hr. Today they pay $8/hr. What the hell?! But why charge that? There are so many college grads working these jobs today and people who are desperate they can simply pay less.
I guess find a niche and try to do everything yourself. You never win working for someone else.
All the employers I see still use IE 6 and XP and refuse to classify anything IT related as anything, but a cost center that adds no value?
10 years ago this was the thinking but not know. It is about cost accounting and getting ahead by staying behind and putting all your eggs in one basket like what we saw in Thailand.
Employers mostly are pennywise, but dollar dumb. Not all of them are like this, but the vast majority are today. Maybe I am wrong as the pendulum may swing in the other direction soon. However, right now I do not see that. What has happened is many public companies get a surge in the share price over 30 years and investors want to see this every quarter!
There is no room for investment nor expansion. Only cost cutting to keep the shareprice rising higher and higher. The problem is since 2008 it never has recovered share price wise. Investors know they have more cash on hand by firing people and keeping ancient systems running, but it is not enough. They want growth, but will fire the CEO for any investment do this. IN essence they are turning to us and asking for more results for less money and less people.
You are a cost center! You do not generate the profit as those brilliant CEOs who sit around all day and think on the golf course. Nor are you as important as those middle managers who just sit on meeting and send 100 emails a day to interrupt workers so they can talk about what they are going to do rather than producing.
Now get back to work slacker
But you could tax the usage of robots.
I do not know about other countries, but here in Belgium there is a tax on power equipment, e.g. electro-motor based things, in function of the power.
Boy, if that wont get manufactures to leave your country and go to China I do not know what will! I hope your friends and family enjoy unemployment. It makes sense to move the office workers too close to where the Asian robots are. More money and a higher shareprice for the CEOs bonus
Property taxes are probably the fairest tax of all if you ask the most anti tax advocates.
The sole reason is you can voluntarily decide how much you pay in taxes. If you are poor you pay nothing as you rent. If you are middle class but want to save not keep up with the Joneses you pay less. If you want to be irresponsible you pay more.
Also in places like Texas with no income tax but higher property taxes home values are still affordable. Why is that? For this reason and that helps the middle class more yet pays for more services as well.
First off you can't clone yourself in another country as a clone you and just tell your employer to send it your cloned self.
We can't for example buy a mailbox in New Jersey while our apartment is in New York and claim to be New Jersey residents. Right?
A corp can do just this. By these cloned shells.
In essence we can't get no taxes unless your employer agrees to pay in just shares and dividends on an offshore account. The IRS will be on them in a millisecond! They have computer programs to detect this. So if an employer is paying you a stub will show the IRS how much you make and you shall pay that amount! There is no way around this as long as they pay you cash you are then taxed.
It is totally unfair. Maximizing shareholder value yadda yadda. What about my value? The tax laws favor the rich extremely in this country.
Hmm, so the "money influences" decided that the average taxpayer needed a "standard deduction", right?
Or a deduction for mortgage interest paid?
Or, at various State levels a "homestead exemption" to Property Taxes?
Just a few of the more obvious examples of LEGAL reductions in tax rates for the "average person". There are more, if you want to bother looking them up. Your tax software will even ask you about them when you get around to doing your income tax return(s)....
Those benefit the very wealthy. True you could benefit if you got in early before the housing boom pre 2003.
Banks love this as it encourages reckless price hikes and irresponsible lending as people buy more than they should so they use the excuse of a tax break. The other 50% of Americans who rent get screwed as we get price hikes and pay for our landlords tax breaks. If I want to buy a home I have to pay 30% more than you did and with interest the price goes up mroe like 45% over time!
How is that fair?
That loophole is hurting revenue too and I am favor of eliminating it. Of course since you own a home I bet you will revolt with pitchforks and torches which complicate the problem. The 47% who owe no taxes are not freeloaders. They are people who bought 3 homes in 2000 when prices were rock bottom and rent htem and pay no taxes in return while the poorer folks who rent have to pay more in taxes and rent money.
All taxation is unfair. Taxation is, essentially, legalised theft.
No it isn't. It's a means of redistributing wealth, which is why rightwing Americans in particular hate it so much. Some people pay more tax, some less, but it all goes to paying for things that are for the benefit of society as a whole.
No it is not. I agree with the republicans 100% on this! Governments job is to provide an environment where we all can exist, by providing public goods that the private sector can not without enforcement.
-eg. a new road across a lake where a major city is at.
In the above examples I can simply not pay for either and enjoy the benefits of others paying for it! By a tax I, your neighbor, and the local grocery store all pay. In return our commute time is cut down in half, our property value goes up, and the store gets its produce quicker and cheaper with less man hours.
In other words we all benefit from this taxation and public good. It is never meant to take from you and the grocery store to me who feels I am too good to work at the grocery store and want to live off welfare instead. Republics have limits on welfare and unemployment to prevent this. In that situation everyone but the freeloader losses.
Wealth redistribution is evil and wrong! Yes, poor people have it rough and my heart goes out. THe problem is if you try to help them it encourages job creators to go to other places without these rules and taxes and encourages others not to work or better themselves. Smart spending like above benefits even if it does take away spending it generates more economic activity and that is what taxes and government is originally for.
Here is the problem.
When we think of capital gains tax we think of Mitt Romney and Wall Street traders who make fortunes for stealing wealth and not producing. What we do not see is grandmas, widows, responsible savers, and even yourself in 30 years. If you live past 60 you will want to retire and where will your income come from?
The answer is capital gains. You get taxed all your life saving and trying to do the right thing and sacrificing keeping up with the Jones only to be taxed again? How is that fair?
Why do we pay taxes? It is fundamentally to pay for public goods that the free market can not provide unless forced too such as schools, roads, military, police, etc. Does Google benefit from this? LIKE HELL YES. It uses public municipalities for its fiber. It uses military and free trade to work in new markets. It uses the education system more than regular employers as they require IQ tests for all employees. These folks got trained on the public dime.
So why shouldn't corps pay taxes too if they also utilize the public goods as much as the private man?
Yes we hate all taxes and they are annoying but just like any bill it is something you pay at the end of every month. Hate cell phone and insurance bills? Try taking the bus to work and not using one? It is the price you pay to live civilly.
Well Bush redefined McDonalds workers as manufacturers. Until you take out the food industry we do not get an accurate picture. I do not own anything in this room that is made in America. Except perhaps a water bottle and a single book out of many others.
I have not seen a single factory except in the 1980s and I have lived in several states. All I see are are places that are service jobs or offices that are consumption based which make everyone poorer. Not anyone that produces anything of value.
Until I see smokestacks, steel mills, and shipyards I say there are hardly any left and McDonalds employees are skewing the numbers.
Sadly no one cares as the banks and credit card companies run the government. What is stupid is if they are smart and see this as a problem it would be in their own self interest interest to lobby for better laws. Sure the shareprice goes up a little more each quarter but a crash is inevitable.
Your quote there is what doomed Britian and it was not until after World War II did it begin to recover.
Evil socialism and regulation be damned. There needs to be limits and caps such as 40k for a student loan, no credit cards allowed for someone on the poverty guidelines etc.
Mod up!
While it is true demand for factory workers will go down in Asia as wages rise. They are already moving some to Vietnam and Thailand as CHinese are asking for more money than they did just a few years ago. However, with 2 trillion plus American dollars sitting in the bank from tax evaders and corporations will go to investment in new companies. Then middle class jobs arise from those as more Chinese have more money to spend.
The US is under debt right now with credit cards, student loans. US treasuries, and a corrupt government who doesn't give a crap. With no production and no money left for investment there is a shortage of middle class jobs. China is still growing while the US reached its max back in 1999.