Hardware support sucks on Linux. Sorry slashdotters but more than half use crappy intel graphics with 2002 era performance and can't run any modern games unless they dumb the graphics down big time. Worse their drivers are buggy for Linux and are software optimized to make us pay for icore7s instead of icore3s with a better GPU instead. Another chunk like myself use ATI graphics which are also unacceptable for gaming. At least under Linux. I have got compiz to work on my ati 5750 a year and a half ago but I doubt wow would run decent compared to WIndows.
What Valve really needs is a dedicated console where they can control the hardware. Game makers can target just that as well as device makers. It is the only way Apple has made great macs. If they made just the OS it would be a buggy nightmare with things almost working or not at all.
If not it wont work as Linux is too difficult to target and support would be a nightmare. Game companies do not want calls from people with ati graphics drivers black screening xorg and having the customer blame them instead of ATI etc.
Nvidia has been having crappy drivers recently. Many 570 users complain Windows 7 randomly is unresponsive with graphical glitches too even with Aero turned off. I think Nvidia should get the blame for that
Upgrade to IE 9? I know IE eww, but it is an ok decent browser now and probably less buggy than FF. Only issue of course is the lack of plugin support and of course ancient intranet apps. IE 9/10 are modern browsers in the same league as Chrome and FF. IE 10 is for sure as it scores above 300 on html5test.com
Shit when FF 4.0 came out IE 9 was better. It no longer is the crappy non standard, ancient, insecure steaming pool of dodo it was since 2001. Infact, IE 6 was ok back then. MS simply had no economic incentive to fix it or upgrade it once it beat Netscape. Netscape was even worse than IE 6 if you can believe it and talk to any long time web developers.
The fact that IE 9 is a modern standards compliant browser that no longer sucks is because of FF and Chrome kicking its ass in and it took MS years since IE 7 to catch up after being asleep at the wheel for 6 years.
FF has improved recently as I posted last month a benchmark showing FF using the least amount of ram with multiple tabs opened that shocked many slashdotters. My gripes are the release schedule being incompatible with the plugin api and the no sandboxing. COme on, even IE 8 had this basic security and stability enchancement. If a crappy flash video hangs it only kills the tab in both IE and Chrome. It creates a wall too for crackers looking for flash exploits as well making FF a security threat.
When I look at WWW statistics I look at html 5 browsers and non. IE will always exist. Too many Moms, grandpas, corporate and governments that will let you prey IE off their cold dead hands.
IE 9 is a regular browser in my opinion and would prefer to encourage people to upgrade by saying how much better it is rather than just bash it and have them become indifferent and stay with an ancient version. MS just started auto updating these users this year and in China alone a HUGE number at least runs IE 8 instead of 6 now. Thank god and it is the only way to get corps to leave that browser.
Otherwise most of the sites will still offer some support and likewise that gives htem no reason to upgrade etc.
But I am grateful of Mozilla's contribution. Just 3 years ago I was paranoid that chrome would take Firefox's miniscule 15% marketshare under the 10% usage and would make webmasters reconsider whether it was worth it to write non IE 6 code? Today I need not to worry. However, I do not like Firefox anymore as it has many shortcomings and Chrome irritates me too.
Your admin didn't setup your shares right during the upgrade. He needs to install Windows Search 4.0 on the older server 2k3. The indexing it does is not compatible with Vista winfs style sql searching that Windows 7 uses internally.
Or upgrade to Windows server 2008 or 2012 and it will do it just fine too.
First off you need to grab your MCSE Windows server book and whack your IT admin over the head with it.
He forgot to install Windows Search 4.0 on your file server assuming its Windows Server 2003. Also turning on offline mode will backup and force partial re-indexing too if he doesnt want to do that. Windows 2k3 does not support the indexing Vista and later use because it is ancient.
You are missing some drivers. Nvidia chipsets have this bug if you do use the stock OEM install. I have never seen it but I have read about it forums with similiar hardware with that 570 graphics.
If you turn on GPU aero it will speed things up quite a bit. Your cpu is not up to the task.
Oh and the study was on slashdot a few years ago when office 2007 came out. Basically 85% of users didn't use common tasks and kept requesting features that existed in years. Microsofts experience program showed that these same users know use almost all of the functions now which is great.
Yes, the first week was irritating but after being told of the benefits and studies from Microsoft I gave it a shot. I love the keyboard shortcuts. But to be honest I hated the menus inside office for many years nesting things. It was cluttered and ugly and to this day I have not found a single thing that I wondered... oh shoot where is it in 2010 in many years.
O2k takes 10x the amount of code with vba to do the same stuff and has many limitations if you reference many worksheets and word formatting is an abomination in that version.... ok 2010 still blows goatballs but is less buggy
People are not as productive with XP/2003 and I dispute that claim. When you have computers that take 8 minutes to be responsive to start up, or inactive for 3 hours every Tuesday due to McCrappy doing a scan limiting 1 app open at a time, can't find files in a share with 10,000 files, help desk putting out fired with rootkits and viruses all day that eats up into productivity.
Sure your friendly beancounter accountant only looks at cost but it is always assumed workers are just as productive regardless of time and equipment.
A modern Windows 7 environment you have instant search and can find things like Acme corp sales distribtion 2008 within seconds! The calls for malware go down in half. Your systems do not have Windows rot and get all sluggish. To boot your computers go into sleep mode and you can save millions or at least hundreds of thousands in energy costs.
Your workers can use more functions in Office they didn't know where there either. Sorry ribbon haters but studies show otherwise and after 1 month of using it you will not want to go back. I can just use my keyboard now with Win 7/Office 2010 and hardly use the mouse as much with instant search and the using the numbering shortcuts with the ribbons. It rocks on a laptop too.
Your workers will be spending more time working and getting things down. You really need to sell yourself better at work rather than kiss up with the cost accountants.
Windows 7 SP 1 Supports SecureBoot fine. I am not saying I endorse secureboot per say, but you can at least put Windows 7 on these machines and OEMs would be retarded to cancel out XP (the most popular OS in the world) as well as Windows 7. It wont die.
If they could do something dumbshit retarded like that they would loose customers FAST. Corporate customers will make up a greater volume of desktop and laptop marketshare as consumers start switching to tablets and phones for the internet and their crappy facebook games. For proof I had a computer that I bought in 2006 that still had OS/2 pallete snooping for crying out loud! All 7 users were happy about that too.
Vesa options will still in the bios as well as ps/2 emulation settings for USB which by 2006 no one used in 7 years. Bios emulation will be supported for a very long time as corporate marketshare of computers pick up and the big boys will keep buying extended support for XP until at least 2019. Same is true with Windows 7, but Win 7 with SP 1 will boot up fine with it locked.
Linux users may hate it but corporations would love to get rid of rootkits forever. It is appealing to these users.
Yep. Android is still new, but I have seen many people browsing nooks at B&N and the Amazon Kindle is becoming popular too.
Windows 8 will revolutionize the tablet market too. Yes, I know people want to burn me with pitchforks, but for tiny tablets it is an ok platform. It only sucks for desktops.
My guess would be corporate Windows hardcore users will start buying them for executives and consumers familiar with the Microsoft brand will too if they can't afford an Apple IPAD. People do not know what a droid is if you ask them? They do know what Windows is and what an IPAD is for sure.
I expect Android tablets will become more popular in time and the same with the fire which I admit is really cool and the best e-reader cost, screen quality, and gui. Great simplistic device optimized for that task.
Well with HULU requiring a cable subscription all I can say is "Not anymore".
In 5 years the TV shows will have to match your tier too at $200 a month or whatever outrageous bill it will be by then at the rate of inflation. Something has to give and bit torrents will take that up next as it is a rip off.
Charge as much as a car at $200 a month for basic backages for 2 or more TVs during the great recession when people's salaries are being cut or not moving since 2008 and they stop paying! Who would have thought?
I remember in the good old days when it ws $60 a month and people made more money a decade ago too.
That wont work with your devices. Especially if it is POS cash register system or if the printer is a special one costing $4,000 made for signage etc.
Still people feel more comfortable with XP as that is what they know and they come into the shop asking for it or looking for a cheap refurbished. XP in 2010 was the defecto standard and only a few had Windows 7. We didn't like supporting it because it required more than 2 gigs of ram and customers kept complaining printers, scanners, and other things didn't work or why is explorer crippled etc.
Really? How about those printers that have no drivers for anything other than XP? What about that medical app for the local optimistrist that uses a USB plugin to prevent piracy? Will that work in Windows 7?
What about the loyalists who swear XP has more features and a much improved explorer over Windows 7? I am clueless? Well I got paid money. Now who is clueless?
Well if it is under contract then yes they better damn support it and pay up to HP.
Do you really x is irrelevent if Oracle signed a contract with Digital/HP back in the day. The US constitution itself guarantees protection of contracts as evil as Oracle or else dimwitted and inept HP is. There is real damaged too as HP lost money relying on a contract from Oracle. Larry probably just assumed the increase of revenue from former OpenVMS, HP-UX, and other other platforms will pay for the lawsuit itself.
Being a trustworthy hardware entity isn't really the HP Way since at least the late 90's. Now it's just the same shit Dell and Acer and the rest sell, but with a roll of the dice CEO and enough money from printers to pretend that they still have anything to bring to the table. Innovation is a four letter as they have selected the role of yet another OEM. HP used to be awesome, now... not so much. Still Oracle laid their bed on this one, and HP is just treating them the way they would have treated HP if the roles were flipped.
They still support old mainframe boxen from a different era running VMS, HP-UX, Non-stop and I think Tandom? These things run nuclear power plants, air traffic control systems, financial markets, and things that IBM still makes money today. These are not your typical XP to Windows 7 migration issues upgrading boxes but are part of decades old infrastructure. HP acquired some hardcore players like Digital back in its day.
True I have not even seen opensource software work on VMS ports of perl and apache since the beginning of the century. No new customers and my guess is they are supporting old.
But still you are right with new purchases and this pulling of Itanium has scared the crap out of customers who are already investing in crappy wintel or lintel replacements in clusters for many things that are not industrial scale.
No one in their right mind would invest money in this now and have already started porting their apps to Windows or Linux.
This reminds me of when Sun cancelled x86 solaris only to reintroduce it. Corporate customers shunned it and software vendors stopped supporting it which caused customers to shun it more in a perpetual loop.
The only people running VMS, HP-UX, and Windows on Itanium are not upgrading or buying new. Just keeping their existing infrastructure or moving or are in the process of moving to a modern more supported platform.
I hate Oracle with a passion but they are asshats in this who voided the contract in order to drum up support for their own offerings even after the lawsuit will make up in increased sales. Bastards.
OEMS like Dell are great with XP support unless you get the cheapest Vastro or whatever they call it line.
2010 era computers still had strong demand for XP so it wasn't a problem at all. Today it is more challenging unless you buy the corporate line which of course they have to support or the corps wont buy it.
Actually there are some things I like about 8 if it were not for METRO. What is cool about the installer linked to your hotmail/outlook account is that you can log into any Windows 8 machine and have all your settings and even corporate apps if your office uses Exchange 2010/2013!
It is like an internet global profile that links yours phone, laptops, work desktop, and xbox 360 live account together.
Windows 8 would have been an awesome update to finally get people to leave XP as Windows 7 is really just a more secure and prettier XP to the eyes of users. Metro just really ruined it. Here's to Windows 9. Sadly Windows 7 is here to stay and even XP for many more years to come as releases like this scare the crap out of those who fear change and hate spending money. I have never seen IT so technophobic before starting with Vista.
Before they had a monopoly. OEMs had no choice, neither did customers. You ran Windows, whether this year's version sucked or not. If you were an enterprise you had the option to get your new machines licensed with the non-sucking version but end users just sucked it up.
That is what is now in doubt. Will people just sigh and buy that PC with the Win8 turd on the drive anyway, because they still feel they have no other choice, or do they go ahead and move to a tablet. Cut total boxes shipped in half and the economies of scale come into question in a world where even flat sales is considered a disaster by the stock market. AMD will certainly be dead leaving Intel to carry the workstation CPU flag forward alone. Dell would survive but HP probably dies. Enough of the chop shops and builders leave and the flood of generic 'PC' motherboard and other parts start to dry up. That is the phones/tablets/consoles vs workstation future I worry about.
I worked in a computer shop 2 years ago and we made tens of thousands of dollars uninstalling Vista and Windows 7 and replacing them with Windows XP. Many users even came and bought used machines because XP support was better. This was almost a year after Windows 7 came out too. XP is not going away as many view it as supperior (non geeks) and in many ways it still is albiet very obsolete and insecure.
Sadly the non geek users I showed Windows 8 too loved it with one of my exgfs thinking it was cute and loved the fact it only had limited colors and choices as choices are all sooo scary. My father is non technical and has an IPAD. I showed him Windows 8 and he thought it was a relief from XP as it is was simple and could just point and click on the cute tiles to do things.
I hope I am wrong as us geeks hate the damn thing and want to burn it. The desktop can be usable but I feel like its a downgrade or part of some crippleware express edition.
Re:Windows 8 seems like a solid product
on
Windows 8 Is Ready
·
· Score: 1
You know the Windows Hatred was finally going away. It seems it is now returning and this time rightfully so.
Maybe dumb Joe Six pack users who never use any of the thigns we whine are gone will notice and like it because it is all shiny like his old AOL connection he once had and Windows 8 will be a big seller? Who knows.
I have not seen this much hatred to any Windows release since it was new and DOS loyalits railed agaisnt it. Rightfully so back then as Windows 3.0 and 3.1 were truly truly awefull and butt ugly and 14 inch flickering monitors with the all white backgrounds.
Slashdot Mirror
Hardware support sucks on Linux. Sorry slashdotters but more than half use crappy intel graphics with 2002 era performance and can't run any modern games unless they dumb the graphics down big time. Worse their drivers are buggy for Linux and are software optimized to make us pay for icore7s instead of icore3s with a better GPU instead. Another chunk like myself use ATI graphics which are also unacceptable for gaming. At least under Linux. I have got compiz to work on my ati 5750 a year and a half ago but I doubt wow would run decent compared to WIndows.
What Valve really needs is a dedicated console where they can control the hardware. Game makers can target just that as well as device makers. It is the only way Apple has made great macs. If they made just the OS it would be a buggy nightmare with things almost working or not at all.
If not it wont work as Linux is too difficult to target and support would be a nightmare. Game companies do not want calls from people with ati graphics drivers black screening xorg and having the customer blame them instead of ATI etc.
Why was this moded up? Just as much flamebait.
Nvidia has been having crappy drivers recently. Many 570 users complain Windows 7 randomly is unresponsive with graphical glitches too even with Aero turned off. I think Nvidia should get the blame for that
Upgrade to IE 9? I know IE eww, but it is an ok decent browser now and probably less buggy than FF. Only issue of course is the lack of plugin support and of course ancient intranet apps. IE 9/10 are modern browsers in the same league as Chrome and FF. IE 10 is for sure as it scores above 300 on html5test.com
Shit when FF 4.0 came out IE 9 was better. It no longer is the crappy non standard, ancient, insecure steaming pool of dodo it was since 2001. Infact, IE 6 was ok back then. MS simply had no economic incentive to fix it or upgrade it once it beat Netscape. Netscape was even worse than IE 6 if you can believe it and talk to any long time web developers.
The fact that IE 9 is a modern standards compliant browser that no longer sucks is because of FF and Chrome kicking its ass in and it took MS years since IE 7 to catch up after being asleep at the wheel for 6 years.
FF has improved recently as I posted last month a benchmark showing FF using the least amount of ram with multiple tabs opened that shocked many slashdotters. My gripes are the release schedule being incompatible with the plugin api and the no sandboxing. COme on, even IE 8 had this basic security and stability enchancement. If a crappy flash video hangs it only kills the tab in both IE and Chrome. It creates a wall too for crackers looking for flash exploits as well making FF a security threat.
If Mozilla fixes these 2 things I will go back.
When I look at WWW statistics I look at html 5 browsers and non. IE will always exist. Too many Moms, grandpas, corporate and governments that will let you prey IE off their cold dead hands.
IE 9 is a regular browser in my opinion and would prefer to encourage people to upgrade by saying how much better it is rather than just bash it and have them become indifferent and stay with an ancient version. MS just started auto updating these users this year and in China alone a HUGE number at least runs IE 8 instead of 6 now. Thank god and it is the only way to get corps to leave that browser.
Otherwise most of the sites will still offer some support and likewise that gives htem no reason to upgrade etc.
But I am grateful of Mozilla's contribution. Just 3 years ago I was paranoid that chrome would take Firefox's miniscule 15% marketshare under the 10% usage and would make webmasters reconsider whether it was worth it to write non IE 6 code? Today I need not to worry. However, I do not like Firefox anymore as it has many shortcomings and Chrome irritates me too.
Your admin didn't setup your shares right during the upgrade. He needs to install Windows Search 4.0 on the older server 2k3. The indexing it does is not compatible with Vista winfs style sql searching that Windows 7 uses internally.
Or upgrade to Windows server 2008 or 2012 and it will do it just fine too.
First off you need to grab your MCSE Windows server book and whack your IT admin over the head with it.
He forgot to install Windows Search 4.0 on your file server assuming its Windows Server 2003. Also turning on offline mode will backup and force partial re-indexing too if he doesnt want to do that. Windows 2k3 does not support the indexing Vista and later use because it is ancient.
You are missing some drivers. Nvidia chipsets have this bug if you do use the stock OEM install. I have never seen it but I have read about it forums with similiar hardware with that 570 graphics.
If you turn on GPU aero it will speed things up quite a bit. Your cpu is not up to the task.
Oh and the study was on slashdot a few years ago when office 2007 came out. Basically 85% of users didn't use common tasks and kept requesting features that existed in years. Microsofts experience program showed that these same users know use almost all of the functions now which is great.
If you disable it you wont learn it.
Yes, the first week was irritating but after being told of the benefits and studies from Microsoft I gave it a shot. I love the keyboard shortcuts. But to be honest I hated the menus inside office for many years nesting things. It was cluttered and ugly and to this day I have not found a single thing that I wondered ... oh shoot where is it in 2010 in many years.
O2k takes 10x the amount of code with vba to do the same stuff and has many limitations if you reference many worksheets and word formatting is an abomination in that version. ... ok 2010 still blows goatballs but is less buggy
People are not as productive with XP/2003 and I dispute that claim. When you have computers that take 8 minutes to be responsive to start up, or inactive for 3 hours every Tuesday due to McCrappy doing a scan limiting 1 app open at a time, can't find files in a share with 10,000 files, help desk putting out fired with rootkits and viruses all day that eats up into productivity.
Sure your friendly beancounter accountant only looks at cost but it is always assumed workers are just as productive regardless of time and equipment.
A modern Windows 7 environment you have instant search and can find things like Acme corp sales distribtion 2008 within seconds! The calls for malware go down in half. Your systems do not have Windows rot and get all sluggish. To boot your computers go into sleep mode and you can save millions or at least hundreds of thousands in energy costs.
Your workers can use more functions in Office they didn't know where there either. Sorry ribbon haters but studies show otherwise and after 1 month of using it you will not want to go back. I can just use my keyboard now with Win 7/Office 2010 and hardly use the mouse as much with instant search and the using the numbering shortcuts with the ribbons. It rocks on a laptop too.
Your workers will be spending more time working and getting things down. You really need to sell yourself better at work rather than kiss up with the cost accountants.
Windows 7 SP 1 Supports SecureBoot fine. I am not saying I endorse secureboot per say, but you can at least put Windows 7 on these machines and OEMs would be retarded to cancel out XP (the most popular OS in the world) as well as Windows 7. It wont die.
If they could do something dumbshit retarded like that they would loose customers FAST. Corporate customers will make up a greater volume of desktop and laptop marketshare as consumers start switching to tablets and phones for the internet and their crappy facebook games. For proof I had a computer that I bought in 2006 that still had OS/2 pallete snooping for crying out loud! All 7 users were happy about that too.
Vesa options will still in the bios as well as ps/2 emulation settings for USB which by 2006 no one used in 7 years. Bios emulation will be supported for a very long time as corporate marketshare of computers pick up and the big boys will keep buying extended support for XP until at least 2019. Same is true with Windows 7, but Win 7 with SP 1 will boot up fine with it locked.
Linux users may hate it but corporations would love to get rid of rootkits forever. It is appealing to these users.
Yep. Android is still new, but I have seen many people browsing nooks at B&N and the Amazon Kindle is becoming popular too.
Windows 8 will revolutionize the tablet market too. Yes, I know people want to burn me with pitchforks, but for tiny tablets it is an ok platform. It only sucks for desktops.
My guess would be corporate Windows hardcore users will start buying them for executives and consumers familiar with the Microsoft brand will too if they can't afford an Apple IPAD. People do not know what a droid is if you ask them? They do know what Windows is and what an IPAD is for sure.
I expect Android tablets will become more popular in time and the same with the fire which I admit is really cool and the best e-reader cost, screen quality, and gui. Great simplistic device optimized for that task.
Well with HULU requiring a cable subscription all I can say is "Not anymore".
In 5 years the TV shows will have to match your tier too at $200 a month or whatever outrageous bill it will be by then at the rate of inflation. Something has to give and bit torrents will take that up next as it is a rip off.
Charge as much as a car at $200 a month for basic backages for 2 or more TVs during the great recession when people's salaries are being cut or not moving since 2008 and they stop paying! Who would have thought?
I remember in the good old days when it ws $60 a month and people made more money a decade ago too.
That wont work with your devices. Especially if it is POS cash register system or if the printer is a special one costing $4,000 made for signage etc.
Still people feel more comfortable with XP as that is what they know and they come into the shop asking for it or looking for a cheap refurbished. XP in 2010 was the defecto standard and only a few had Windows 7. We didn't like supporting it because it required more than 2 gigs of ram and customers kept complaining printers, scanners, and other things didn't work or why is explorer crippled etc.
Really? How about those printers that have no drivers for anything other than XP? What about that medical app for the local optimistrist that uses a USB plugin to prevent piracy? Will that work in Windows 7?
What about the loyalists who swear XP has more features and a much improved explorer over Windows 7? I am clueless? Well I got paid money. Now who is clueless?
Well if it is under contract then yes they better damn support it and pay up to HP.
Do you really x is irrelevent if Oracle signed a contract with Digital/HP back in the day. The US constitution itself guarantees protection of contracts as evil as Oracle or else dimwitted and inept HP is. There is real damaged too as HP lost money relying on a contract from Oracle. Larry probably just assumed the increase of revenue from former OpenVMS, HP-UX, and other other platforms will pay for the lawsuit itself.
Being a trustworthy hardware entity isn't really the HP Way since at least the late 90's. Now it's just the same shit Dell and Acer and the rest sell, but with a roll of the dice CEO and enough money from printers to pretend that they still have anything to bring to the table. Innovation is a four letter as they have selected the role of yet another OEM. HP used to be awesome, now... not so much. Still Oracle laid their bed on this one, and HP is just treating them the way they would have treated HP if the roles were flipped.
They still support old mainframe boxen from a different era running VMS, HP-UX, Non-stop and I think Tandom? These things run nuclear power plants, air traffic control systems, financial markets, and things that IBM still makes money today. These are not your typical XP to Windows 7 migration issues upgrading boxes but are part of decades old infrastructure. HP acquired some hardcore players like Digital back in its day.
True I have not even seen opensource software work on VMS ports of perl and apache since the beginning of the century. No new customers and my guess is they are supporting old.
But still you are right with new purchases and this pulling of Itanium has scared the crap out of customers who are already investing in crappy wintel or lintel replacements in clusters for many things that are not industrial scale.
No one in their right mind would invest money in this now and have already started porting their apps to Windows or Linux.
This reminds me of when Sun cancelled x86 solaris only to reintroduce it. Corporate customers shunned it and software vendors stopped supporting it which caused customers to shun it more in a perpetual loop.
The only people running VMS, HP-UX, and Windows on Itanium are not upgrading or buying new. Just keeping their existing infrastructure or moving or are in the process of moving to a modern more supported platform.
I hate Oracle with a passion but they are asshats in this who voided the contract in order to drum up support for their own offerings even after the lawsuit will make up in increased sales. Bastards.
OEMS like Dell are great with XP support unless you get the cheapest Vastro or whatever they call it line.
2010 era computers still had strong demand for XP so it wasn't a problem at all. Today it is more challenging unless you buy the corporate line which of course they have to support or the corps wont buy it.
Actually there are some things I like about 8 if it were not for METRO. What is cool about the installer linked to your hotmail/outlook account is that you can log into any Windows 8 machine and have all your settings and even corporate apps if your office uses Exchange 2010/2013!
It is like an internet global profile that links yours phone, laptops, work desktop, and xbox 360 live account together.
Windows 8 would have been an awesome update to finally get people to leave XP as Windows 7 is really just a more secure and prettier XP to the eyes of users. Metro just really ruined it. Here's to Windows 9. Sadly Windows 7 is here to stay and even XP for many more years to come as releases like this scare the crap out of those who fear change and hate spending money. I have never seen IT so technophobic before starting with Vista.
Before they had a monopoly. OEMs had no choice, neither did customers. You ran Windows, whether this year's version sucked or not. If you were an enterprise you had the option to get your new machines licensed with the non-sucking version but end users just sucked it up.
That is what is now in doubt. Will people just sigh and buy that PC with the Win8 turd on the drive anyway, because they still feel they have no other choice, or do they go ahead and move to a tablet. Cut total boxes shipped in half and the economies of scale come into question in a world where even flat sales is considered a disaster by the stock market. AMD will certainly be dead leaving Intel to carry the workstation CPU flag forward alone. Dell would survive but HP probably dies. Enough of the chop shops and builders leave and the flood of generic 'PC' motherboard and other parts start to dry up. That is the phones/tablets/consoles vs workstation future I worry about.
I worked in a computer shop 2 years ago and we made tens of thousands of dollars uninstalling Vista and Windows 7 and replacing them with Windows XP. Many users even came and bought used machines because XP support was better. This was almost a year after Windows 7 came out too. XP is not going away as many view it as supperior (non geeks) and in many ways it still is albiet very obsolete and insecure.
Sadly the non geek users I showed Windows 8 too loved it with one of my exgfs thinking it was cute and loved the fact it only had limited colors and choices as choices are all sooo scary. My father is non technical and has an IPAD. I showed him Windows 8 and he thought it was a relief from XP as it is was simple and could just point and click on the cute tiles to do things.
I hope I am wrong as us geeks hate the damn thing and want to burn it. The desktop can be usable but I feel like its a downgrade or part of some crippleware express edition.
You know the Windows Hatred was finally going away. It seems it is now returning and this time rightfully so.
Maybe dumb Joe Six pack users who never use any of the thigns we whine are gone will notice and like it because it is all shiny like his old AOL connection he once had and Windows 8 will be a big seller? Who knows.
I have not seen this much hatred to any Windows release since it was new and DOS loyalits railed agaisnt it. Rightfully so back then as Windows 3.0 and 3.1 were truly truly awefull and butt ugly and 14 inch flickering monitors with the all white backgrounds.