I tried switching to Chrome for a month. I kept using IE 9 and Firefox 4.
Problems 1. Can't select my common websites with a mouse click within the address bar like IE, Firefox,... hell even netscape 1.0. - This drives me up the wall! I hate typing in the url each time I want to visit slashdot. Sure in Windows 7 I can right click the icon, but slashdot is not in the top 6 sites I visit and is not listed. This is not optional in MacOS or Linux 2. Why should I go into settings/preferences just to access my bookmarks? - When I get them guess what? It blocks my whole view and creates an additional tab?? Why can't I have a window and look at them while I am on the same page? 3. No way to access history without going into setup/preferences. -... now before you whine hit Control H you retard!!.. the fact is I prefer and should not have to do that as a simple user. The fact is I can't convince my parents to use Chrome for that reason either. It is a gui after all. 4. No search bar pane - No I wont
a. click on the address bar
b. Hit delete and erase the existing URL
c. Then type what I want
d. My existing page on the current tab is gone and replaced by google:-( - Sorry I just type what I want in IE or Firefox in a search bar and BAM! A new tab opens up with search results and my existing page is still intact.
If Google or any Chromium developers are reading this you need to fix these before I and many others will switch. No Bogaboga you are not alone even though I tried for 3 weeks to switch to Chrome due to some Android development. I keep coming back to Firefox 4.
"The whole world witnesses the stagnation to software development caused by the incessant court battles about software patents in the USofA and then they want a similar system!"
Not if you can outsource to a more business friendly country like India where you do not have to worry about patent lawsuits and you get really cheap labor too on top of that!
Part of me feels a consipiracy going on with outsourcing companies favoring software patents to they can turn around and sell more overseas contracts to clients. Meanwhile the developers in western countries like US, Canada, and now France will need to learn different professions like manufactoring... oh oops. Seriously, the lawyers and simple greed are ruining everything and causing the world to head into a depression... with the exception of China and India of course. We are heading into the dark days in the western world.... besides bickering, the real problem is campaign contributions from corporations NEED TO STOP. We will never have politicans no matter which country you live in vote in our interests if this bribery continues. Long term economic losses will add up and civil strife and disobedience after that.
I switched back to windows 7. I tried to use the new guis. I just couldnt use it. I cant even reboot after an update! Seriously i have to manually use the unix shutdown command? How can I get my mom to run this? This is not a whiny user who hates change. This is someone who sees very critical flaws. I cant get any work done so I went back to windows.
Its a sad day when a unix user switches to windows for reliability and functionalty. I am not a troll but speak the truth
I have an ATI 5750 in my AMD phenom II system. It ran fine with it, even though the link showed an unhappy user with it. I do have 3d effects with that and Fedora 15 with Gnome 3 shell. I admit I did not test it as I freaked out and wiped it with a fresh install of Windows 7.... sorry I needed Office and prefered a single platform that had a better gui that wasn't so limited.
But I planned to switch back to Windows when I bought this computer with Windows 7. I had bad luck with Nvidia stability with previous drivers regardless of OS.
With the failure of Vista through its ashes came Windows 7 a success and a great GUI with a great OS.
I do not like this minimalism trend but I have faith Windows 8 can do it well if it does it right and same is true with Unity and Gnome-Shell. Gnome Shell has a huge Javascript extension library and API that applets that imitate the old gnome 2.8 applets and functions can be reimplemented. Too bad I switched back to Windows for me as a result of the GUI, but I am open to give it another shot after a few releases.
I do not mind GUI innovation if it helps the end user. Ribbons are the scorn of many slashdotters but after using them I like them now because you can preview changes and find things without the mouse at all by hiting ALT. It takes a good week or 2 to be as productive is the downside.
Anyway I agree the GUI changes are too radical and band but will forgive if AJAX extensions bring cool new features. Some like minimalism, like the Chrome Browser users, but it drives me crazy personally
These same pharma companies then gouge the tax payers and bankrupt the country by charging $120 for $10 aspirin equivilents. Ironic these same senators blame Obama sayinh we didn't create this problem when letting these drug companies gouge and write the health insurance bill that forces people to pay agaisnt their will.
I would love to replace Outlook. That.... I can't think of any adjective to describe that horrible piece of SHIT. It does not even support all of the standards of standard imap and pop3. It supports it like IE supported w3c standards. It is so tied in with proprietary Active Directory garbage and management that it seems impossible to replace.
What we need is an opensource replacement. Or maybe a cloud replacement or internet one? The we can finally leave Windows. Ok that is a joke for American fortunate 1000 companies, but many medium companies use macs now. It is Exchange and Active Directory which always make management eventually migrate to Windows and a MS ecosystem.
If there ever was a case of open standards it would be email and scheduling as I feel Exchange is so proprietary and impossible to unweild out of the MS ecosystem. Is Notes really that much worse?
I made it in 1999 and it was very immature on my part, but it summarized how I felt dealing with inferior MS products. I had a debate with a friend a long time ago saying I would rather live in a monopoly by Apple than MS. At least I did not have to use strange hacks like Memmaker to trick my computer to use more than 640k of ram and I could have real innovation. Right?
Today, I do not like Apple and see MS is not so bad. MS products have vastly improved and Apple's prices and lock in with their walled gardens are ridiculous.
I want to live in a free market world. MS did own 85% of the smart phone/PDA market at one time after defeating Palm Pilot. I am glad the Blackberry and Iphone came.
I guess the morale is anyone company ruling a world is bad. One great thing about Windows 8 and gnome-shell, despite wanting to be burned by fellow slashdotters is that they use AJAX. With HTML 5 in the mix we can finally have open standards rule so no one company can take advantage of us
That is why I support Android. It is more developer friendly and Apple was becoming too powerful. I only hope it does not turn into the next PC of the cell phone world with too much marketshare. I fear Android is the next DOS. Its not pretty nor as advanced as the Iphone but every vendor uses it. That would be bad too then
I do not like where Java is going and I know I am not alone.
I do not like how it is being proprietary from a once open standard and what the new license agreement is doing to Google. If it can happen to Google it can happen to Apache or anyone else. Java is old and not being updated which is why real Java developers download free third party api's like Hibernate rather than wait on Oracle. After LinQ beating ORM's and the lack of AJAX and other things that.NET is doing it seems to be falling further and further behind. What about Java support for the BSD users? Consoles?... or other platforms?
Is it possible to fork IcedTea? I would like to see it more like.NET with faster innovation and more languages being ported over to the JVM. Who is with me?
That is my feel of it too. Like a nice old mainframe/cobol-ish platform, but is more modern for the late 20th/21st century.
If my website needs to be rewritten to be enterprisish, I have 2 options Java or C#/ASP.NET. With Java I can run the code 10 years from now when its old and crusty on a mainframe if I wished or a few servers just like Cobol. Whether that is a good thing or not is debatable but it is conservative and I know it will still run. With Microsoft I would likely have to rewrite it every few years when things change but it would be more modern and any developer with Visual Studio can work on it.
What I do not like is where Java is going from their new overlords. To be fair C# is tied to SQL Server and Windows so it is a proprietary stack as well. I have to choose which is better to be shafted by. I wish IcedTea would go somewhere so I would not feel so confined and left behind.
Java is not being updated and it is creaky old and now a liability. IBM is the only other vendor I can choose besides Oracle if I want real enterprise support and updated software and database access. I assume Java will be more and more integrated with the Oracle Database while IBM's version will be more friendly with DB2/Web sphere etc. Either way it is becoming expensive compared to other more open alternatives. What a mess and I hope thigns change and Oracle looses the lawsuit bigtime and we have a nice Java fork.:-)
Right now I will stick with PHP until I have the actual need to run something like big like that and pick a platform.
It sounds like they use Cisco Clean Agent. Many universities use it now. It is a VPN piece of software that requires you to have anti-virus and if you do not have it they move you to a proxy site etc. You have to click a few screens and agree to only be on it for one hour before you are booted from the proxy which has network priority modded down. If you run Linux then apt-get doesn't work and you must agree with the proxy screens every time you log in and after an hour you are booted off if you open a browser.
I gave up on Linux with my notebook as a result. The version at my university even included trend micro if you did not have one and on a 4300 rpm hard drive with Vista it was dog slloowww.
Linux or Unix own 50% of the server market and the percentage is a lot higher in internet server usage world wide.
I read comments here on slashdot from employers who say dumb things like "haha. It doesn't even have a gui!! How primitive. We are a state of the art Microsoft Shop... bla bla". Obvious one of the guys living in the 1990's thinking integrated platform saves money etc.
I do not give a shit. If you are that retarded to ignore not only a platform, but the whole market (apache) because it does not fit in with your narrow ideology or MCSE coursework then you are massively incompetent and need to be fired.
If I were a CIO and heard any IT manager laugh at Linux I would fire him. I would not fire him or her if they had objections to adopting it, but I surely would if they didn't consider it a real platform as part of the job is to look at all platforms and alternatives. If you are too stupid to see it runs 50% of the server market then you are not a real I.T. person. Nothing wrong with picking Windows Server for certain situations but no one in that kind of position deserves to be paid that much and have that kind of narrow niavenesse. I can hire a slashdotter working as a tech or LAN admin who would be more knowledgeable. You do not see mechanics that claim Ford doesn't exist or that only GM trucks are serious vehicles. That would be silly.... {/rant]
Windows 8 is not even in beta yet and the video is just a demo of an unfinished product. My hope is the tile interface will be inside the explorer. Right now it is seperated because the Tile UI is not finished and it keeps changing as the UI team tweeks it. Windows Vista alpha's looked more like Windows XP until the team cooked aero to be more dark and black. It is far away and still a work in progress. I would not worry.
Waiting for WIndows 9 will be a long time and you are crippling a modern computer with Windows XP while you wait. My AMD' phenom II have nice features that modernly compiled operating systems like Windows 7 use that would be disabled or not well done with an Windows XP kernel compiled with VC 6. Not to mention it is a 6 core unit, which would get another hit with the XP kernel due to obsolete SMP support, add lack of accelerated web browsing and flash video, and I might as well save my money for a crappier computer as it will perform like one that is worse.
In the last decade people switched from Dos to an NT kernel and that was very radical. It didn't kill the ecosystem did it? Before that was Windows 31 16 bit with DOS to win32 in Windows 95 with a radically different UI. That was a radical change in the MS ecosystem effect but it was not the end of the world and it was a great upgrade.
All this is becoming is a return to pre XP verison upgrades that happen ever 2 - 4 years that coincide end of life cycling. If MS wants to stay in business they need people to upgrade again. I would get Windows 7 if you have an older system soon and not worry. Windows 98 had the annoying activedesktop too which is what Windows 8 is retrying. It was very easy to disable as no one used it and it failed. It wont be like Gnome-Shell or Unity where a feature is taking functionality so you have to use a product their way or the highway. Microsoft is not that stupid.
2 GHZ minimal is more realistic. 2 GB of ram is more realistic as well if you want to... oh I don't know run apps as well. Windows 7 fresh from the DVD restore on my Asus was about 27 GB. The only included apps are Office and Works and and Trend Micro and not adware crap. Those only take a few more gigs. If you install browsers and more software 50 GB is more realistic of actual use excluding mp3s and movie downloads. To get good graphics a DirectX 11 card is recommended for aero.
From what I read Windows 7 is slow as molasses and runs Vista like on 2007 era hardware and earlier unless you run the starter edition. Sure is it faster than Vista but that is not saying much. On a modern 2010 system Windows 7 is snappier than WindowsXP. The code is optimized with more modern CPU's cache, video cards, and compiler optimizations that help more modern cpu's branch predict and execute data.
Maybe I am wrong. But when I read the forums of people bashing Windows 7 and IE 9 as slow and unstable and buggy it is always an upgrade or someone with an older computer. It could be a driver issue as well.
In my opinion if your computer is from 2008 or earlier I would just buy a new pc with Windows 7 or keep XP, which is what consumers are doing.
Strange. With postscript, monitor profiles, and Microsoft equivalent of postscript (forgot name) I would assume this should be a none issue. A huge part of desktop composition deals with making sure what you see on the screen is identical to what you print out. Apple solved this 25 years ago. Are web browsers different than typical gui applications in this regard? Using a printing style sheet sounds very archaic and backwards. I would like to know since I want to develop a website where printing receipts will be a core function.
IE 9 has the fastest Javscript engine period! I know that is not a popular opinion here on slashdot but Microsoft is noticing Chrome and Firefox and is getting nervous and playing catchup. It is better with graphically intensive hi res sites as it has the best GPU assisted rendering of text with DirectWrite/Direct 2D. IE 9 is a huge improvement.... this assumes you run Windows 7 on your netbook of course and it is a free download so give it a shot. If it has a somewhat accelerated graphics it will help scroll IE 9 easier. Chrome is having flake acceleration issues for some users so I do not know. Chrome is great on Linux on my 3 year old laptop. Firefox 3.6 is downright sluggish.
"Yesterday, after viewing dozens of documents in multiple tabs on the web, memory use in Firefox had climbed on my system to over 1 Gb"ram usage than Chrome when you have +5 to +10 tabs open. I am just curious what caused that on your system? I have 8 gigs of ram on my desktop so it wont hit me as hard and I have never seen Firefox use more than 600 megs ever!
I wonder if it is a bad addon? I only use Firebug and NoScript. I use more extensions under Chrome.
You know Microsoft made the most money when things changed rapidly in the 1990s. Dos to Windows 3.1 to Windows 95 to Windows NT/200 in only 9 years made seriously bank. Compared to today where corporations use the same OS, same programs, same hardware, etc.
Microsoft, now listened to their customers and try to keep compatibility, but to their own peril.
You'r beloved operating system is making strong headway at 15% of the market! 10 years ago it has 2% of the market. People are buying and generation Y likes them.
Realize that not everyone is going to switch. Especially corporate users, since MS killed the Xserve and there are no deployment tools for MacOSX. Let them upgrade to Windows 7, as they wont ever go Apple unless Steve Jobs wants to actually try to target this market again.
If people use a modern OS with a good browser for HTML 5, accelerated JavaScript and GPU acceleration we all benefit with applets that can run across our phones and desktops/tablets. We can finally kill Flash which will be a plus too as I view it as the enemy of open standards.
I do not want to hold myself or the industry hostage because someone does not like Microsoft. I tell you one thing. As someone who wants to start a web startup and develop some Andriod/Ios apps I see the enemy and that is WindowsXP and IE 6. It means different things to different people.
HTML 5 is very exciting and different than the previous versions. Video, flash, 3d in css3d or webgl (still being drafted), fonts, and even progress bars can be done. It is the future of progress and the browser wars are bringing in 3d hardware acceleration too.
So, can I use these? No. If I am going to have many corporate users with schmuck PHBs who say 11 year old IE 6 only with WindowsXP, then I will need to double my work and have a crappy IE 6 minimalist site and a cool one in which only 30% of my users will even see and hold off features. Everyone loses. It makes me look bad as I can't make it look 21st century for much of my users.
If you hate Microsoft for releasing poor products than we should be encouraging users to get rid of the bad ones. WindowsXP is bad today. It was not in 2001 (ok for the linux geeks that is debatable:-), but today it is ridiculous. Can you imagine WindowsXP failing when it came out because 40% of all users still used Windows 3.0! Or how about Windows 95 not being used widely as CPM compatible with TSR emulators are a must to run WordStar!! The bean counters say that is fine and we dont want to train our users to use anything other than our radio shack microcomputers from when Reagan was in office. I know that seems ludicrous, but how is this any different with IE 6 and Windows XP today? the products I mentioned, that I made fun of are about 10 years older than the new hits of innovation that hit.
I do not know if it is the recession and the bean counters, or plainly there are more computers today than 20 years ago. But, everyone losses when we support legacy programs. If Windows 3.11 was a must in 2001, we might still not have Windows 7 as these same apps would still be only 16-bit.
It is because corporate users freak out when they here upgrade. IE is now on an anual upgrade to keep up. IE upgrades are big and less gradual but IE 10 should be able to keep up.
Yep. Microsoft has a very cranky enterprise oriented customer base. They do not want to upgrade IE only to find out a bug screwed up an intranet app because the w3c changed a detail about a css property that the new IE follows. It seems there approach is to simply ignore the standards unless recommended as to prevent adoption. This causes everyone to wait as IE is the most popular browser in the world
If you dont have that magical piece of paper that says computer science then your not even qualified to answer phones in a call center for 80% of jobs I see, according to hr. Hell, good luck being even a secretary without one in this economy. Many employers are buckling down on filtering applicants out and are used to requiring experience, education, and 3 letters of recommendation before they eill even talk to you. If you lost your job tomorrow I highly doubt you would find another one as easily simply because hr is convinced a computer science degree teaches I.T. Support and web design. Dont under estimate it.
"Computer is not for web only, I know, it's amazing to think otherwise, but some of us actually work on them, and most of the work is not happening on the web, though reading/. you won't be able to deduce this fact."
What about salesforce.com, gmail, and clouds?
Have you seen the spec for HTML 5? Even progress bars are supported, h.264, and even data types like strings containing dates. With html 5 and javascript you can write apps that can scale from the phone to the desktop. It is the feature and yes, the dream of Watson with his old IBM mainframe with a sea of dumb terminals is becoming a reality where the server cluster is the mainframe and the desktops run a browser or phone applets on the desktop.
Businesses can save a fortune getting rid of I.T. and putting things on a cloud or internet site and it feels like the 1990s all over again with the new browsers and cell phones. Hardware acceleration and JIT javascript compilers and helping make this possible.
I believe like any technology it can be used to waste time or help business and I wouldn't worry about it slowing your system down.
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I tried switching to Chrome for a month. I kept using IE 9 and Firefox 4.
Problems ... hell even netscape 1.0. ... now before you whine hit Control H you retard!! .. the fact is I prefer and should not have to do that as a simple user. The fact is I can't convince my parents to use Chrome for that reason either. It is a gui after all. :-(
1. Can't select my common websites with a mouse click within the address bar like IE, Firefox,
- This drives me up the wall! I hate typing in the url each time I want to visit slashdot. Sure in Windows 7 I can right click the icon, but slashdot is not in the top 6 sites I visit and is not listed. This is not optional in MacOS or Linux
2. Why should I go into settings/preferences just to access my bookmarks?
- When I get them guess what? It blocks my whole view and creates an additional tab?? Why can't I have a window and look at them while I am on the same page?
3. No way to access history without going into setup/preferences.
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4. No search bar pane
- No I wont
a. click on the address bar
b. Hit delete and erase the existing URL
c. Then type what I want
d. My existing page on the current tab is gone and replaced by google
- Sorry I just type what I want in IE or Firefox in a search bar and BAM! A new tab opens up with search results and my existing page is still intact.
If Google or any Chromium developers are reading this you need to fix these before I and many others will switch. No Bogaboga you are not alone even though I tried for 3 weeks to switch to Chrome due to some Android development. I keep coming back to Firefox 4.
"The whole world witnesses the stagnation to software development caused by the incessant court battles about software patents in the USofA and then they want a similar system!"
Not if you can outsource to a more business friendly country like India where you do not have to worry about patent lawsuits and you get really cheap labor too on top of that!
Part of me feels a consipiracy going on with outsourcing companies favoring software patents to they can turn around and sell more overseas contracts to clients. Meanwhile the developers in western countries like US, Canada, and now France will need to learn different professions like manufactoring ... oh oops. Seriously, the lawyers and simple greed are ruining everything and causing the world to head into a depression ... with the exception of China and India of course. We are heading into the dark days in the western world. ... besides bickering, the real problem is campaign contributions from corporations NEED TO STOP. We will never have politicans no matter which country you live in vote in our interests if this bribery continues. Long term economic losses will add up and civil strife and disobedience after that.
I switched back to windows 7. I tried to use the new guis. I just couldnt use it. I cant even reboot after an update! Seriously i have to manually use the unix shutdown command? How can I get my mom to run this? This is not a whiny user who hates change. This is someone who sees very critical flaws. I cant get any work done so I went back to windows.
Its a sad day when a unix user switches to windows for reliability and functionalty. I am not a troll but speak the truth
I have an ATI 5750 in my AMD phenom II system. It ran fine with it, even though the link showed an unhappy user with it. I do have 3d effects with that and Fedora 15 with Gnome 3 shell. I admit I did not test it as I freaked out and wiped it with a fresh install of Windows 7. ... sorry I needed Office and prefered a single platform that had a better gui that wasn't so limited.
But I planned to switch back to Windows when I bought this computer with Windows 7. I had bad luck with Nvidia stability with previous drivers regardless of OS.
With the failure of Vista through its ashes came Windows 7 a success and a great GUI with a great OS.
I do not like this minimalism trend but I have faith Windows 8 can do it well if it does it right and same is true with Unity and Gnome-Shell. Gnome Shell has a huge Javascript extension library and API that applets that imitate the old gnome 2.8 applets and functions can be reimplemented. Too bad I switched back to Windows for me as a result of the GUI, but I am open to give it another shot after a few releases.
I do not mind GUI innovation if it helps the end user. Ribbons are the scorn of many slashdotters but after using them I like them now because you can preview changes and find things without the mouse at all by hiting ALT. It takes a good week or 2 to be as productive is the downside.
Anyway I agree the GUI changes are too radical and band but will forgive if AJAX extensions bring cool new features. Some like minimalism, like the Chrome Browser users, but it drives me crazy personally
These same pharma companies then gouge the tax payers and bankrupt the country by charging $120 for $10 aspirin equivilents. Ironic these same senators blame Obama sayinh we didn't create this problem when letting these drug companies gouge and write the health insurance bill that forces people to pay agaisnt their will.
I would love to replace Outlook. That .... I can't think of any adjective to describe that horrible piece of SHIT. It does not even support all of the standards of standard imap and pop3. It supports it like IE supported w3c standards. It is so tied in with proprietary Active Directory garbage and management that it seems impossible to replace.
What we need is an opensource replacement. Or maybe a cloud replacement or internet one? The we can finally leave Windows. Ok that is a joke for American fortunate 1000 companies, but many medium companies use macs now. It is Exchange and Active Directory which always make management eventually migrate to Windows and a MS ecosystem.
If there ever was a case of open standards it would be email and scheduling as I feel Exchange is so proprietary and impossible to unweild out of the MS ecosystem.
Is Notes really that much worse?
Look at my sig?
I made it in 1999 and it was very immature on my part, but it summarized how I felt dealing with inferior MS products. I had a debate with a friend a long time ago saying I would rather live in a monopoly by Apple than MS. At least I did not have to use strange hacks like Memmaker to trick my computer to use more than 640k of ram and I could have real innovation. Right?
Today, I do not like Apple and see MS is not so bad. MS products have vastly improved and Apple's prices and lock in with their walled gardens are ridiculous.
I want to live in a free market world. MS did own 85% of the smart phone/PDA market at one time after defeating Palm Pilot. I am glad the Blackberry and Iphone came.
I guess the morale is anyone company ruling a world is bad. One great thing about Windows 8 and gnome-shell, despite wanting to be burned by fellow slashdotters is that they use AJAX. With HTML 5 in the mix we can finally have open standards rule so no one company can take advantage of us
That is why I support Android. It is more developer friendly and Apple was becoming too powerful. I only hope it does not turn into the next PC of the cell phone world with too much marketshare. I fear Android is the next DOS. Its not pretty nor as advanced as the Iphone but every vendor uses it. That would be bad too then
I do not like where Java is going and I know I am not alone.
I do not like how it is being proprietary from a once open standard and what the new license agreement is doing to Google. If it can happen to Google it can happen to Apache or anyone else. Java is old and not being updated which is why real Java developers download free third party api's like Hibernate rather than wait on Oracle. After LinQ beating ORM's and the lack of AJAX and other things that .NET is doing it seems to be falling further and further behind. What about Java support for the BSD users? Consoles? ... or other platforms?
Is it possible to fork IcedTea? I would like to see it more like .NET with faster innovation and more languages being ported over to the JVM. Who is with me?
That is my feel of it too. Like a nice old mainframe/cobol-ish platform, but is more modern for the late 20th/21st century.
If my website needs to be rewritten to be enterprisish, I have 2 options Java or C#/ASP.NET. With Java I can run the code 10 years from now when its old and crusty on a mainframe if I wished or a few servers just like Cobol. Whether that is a good thing or not is debatable but it is conservative and I know it will still run. With Microsoft I would likely have to rewrite it every few years when things change but it would be more modern and any developer with Visual Studio can work on it.
What I do not like is where Java is going from their new overlords. To be fair C# is tied to SQL Server and Windows so it is a proprietary stack as well. I have to choose which is better to be shafted by. I wish IcedTea would go somewhere so I would not feel so confined and left behind.
Java is not being updated and it is creaky old and now a liability. IBM is the only other vendor I can choose besides Oracle if I want real enterprise support and updated software and database access. I assume Java will be more and more integrated with the Oracle Database while IBM's version will be more friendly with DB2/Web sphere etc. Either way it is becoming expensive compared to other more open alternatives. What a mess and I hope thigns change and Oracle looses the lawsuit bigtime and we have a nice Java fork. :-)
Right now I will stick with PHP until I have the actual need to run something like big like that and pick a platform.
There are developers out there that actually think ORM is a cheap knockoff to LinQ. MS had it first! etc ...
Sadly it doesn't matter as ORM was never really marketed while LinQ was and took over mindshare among developers
It sounds like they use Cisco Clean Agent. Many universities use it now. It is a VPN piece of software that requires you to have anti-virus and if you do not have it they move you to a proxy site etc. You have to click a few screens and agree to only be on it for one hour before you are booted from the proxy which has network priority modded down. If you run Linux then apt-get doesn't work and you must agree with the proxy screens every time you log in and after an hour you are booted off if you open a browser.
I gave up on Linux with my notebook as a result. The version at my university even included trend micro if you did not have one and on a 4300 rpm hard drive with Vista it was dog slloowww.
Linux or Unix own 50% of the server market and the percentage is a lot higher in internet server usage world wide.
I read comments here on slashdot from employers who say dumb things like "haha. It doesn't even have a gui!! How primitive. We are a state of the art Microsoft Shop ... bla bla". Obvious one of the guys living in the 1990's thinking integrated platform saves money etc.
I do not give a shit. If you are that retarded to ignore not only a platform, but the whole market (apache) because it does not fit in with your narrow ideology or MCSE coursework then you are massively incompetent and need to be fired.
If I were a CIO and heard any IT manager laugh at Linux I would fire him. I would not fire him or her if they had objections to adopting it, but I surely would if they didn't consider it a real platform as part of the job is to look at all platforms and alternatives. If you are too stupid to see it runs 50% of the server market then you are not a real I.T. person. Nothing wrong with picking Windows Server for certain situations but no one in that kind of position deserves to be paid that much and have that kind of narrow niavenesse. I can hire a slashdotter working as a tech or LAN admin who would be more knowledgeable. You do not see mechanics that claim Ford doesn't exist or that only GM trucks are serious vehicles. That would be silly. ... {/rant]
Windows 8 is not even in beta yet and the video is just a demo of an unfinished product. My hope is the tile interface will be inside the explorer. Right now it is seperated because the Tile UI is not finished and it keeps changing as the UI team tweeks it. Windows Vista alpha's looked more like Windows XP until the team cooked aero to be more dark and black. It is far away and still a work in progress. I would not worry.
Waiting for WIndows 9 will be a long time and you are crippling a modern computer with Windows XP while you wait. My AMD' phenom II have nice features that modernly compiled operating systems like Windows 7 use that would be disabled or not well done with an Windows XP kernel compiled with VC 6. Not to mention it is a 6 core unit, which would get another hit with the XP kernel due to obsolete SMP support, add lack of accelerated web browsing and flash video, and I might as well save my money for a crappier computer as it will perform like one that is worse.
In the last decade people switched from Dos to an NT kernel and that was very radical. It didn't kill the ecosystem did it? Before that was Windows 31 16 bit with DOS to win32 in Windows 95 with a radically different UI. That was a radical change in the MS ecosystem effect but it was not the end of the world and it was a great upgrade.
All this is becoming is a return to pre XP verison upgrades that happen ever 2 - 4 years that coincide end of life cycling. If MS wants to stay in business they need people to upgrade again. I would get Windows 7 if you have an older system soon and not worry. Windows 98 had the annoying activedesktop too which is what Windows 8 is retrying. It was very easy to disable as no one used it and it failed. It wont be like Gnome-Shell or Unity where a feature is taking functionality so you have to use a product their way or the highway. Microsoft is not that stupid.
2 GHZ minimal is more realistic. 2 GB of ram is more realistic as well if you want to ... oh I don't know run apps as well. Windows 7 fresh from the DVD restore on my Asus was about 27 GB. The only included apps are Office and Works and and Trend Micro and not adware crap. Those only take a few more gigs. If you install browsers and more software 50 GB is more realistic of actual use excluding mp3s and movie downloads. To get good graphics a DirectX 11 card is recommended for aero.
From what I read Windows 7 is slow as molasses and runs Vista like on 2007 era hardware and earlier unless you run the starter edition. Sure is it faster than Vista but that is not saying much. On a modern 2010 system Windows 7 is snappier than WindowsXP. The code is optimized with more modern CPU's cache, video cards, and compiler optimizations that help more modern cpu's branch predict and execute data.
Maybe I am wrong. But when I read the forums of people bashing Windows 7 and IE 9 as slow and unstable and buggy it is always an upgrade or someone with an older computer. It could be a driver issue as well.
In my opinion if your computer is from 2008 or earlier I would just buy a new pc with Windows 7 or keep XP, which is what consumers are doing.
Strange. With postscript, monitor profiles, and Microsoft equivalent of postscript (forgot name) I would assume this should be a none issue. A huge part of desktop composition deals with making sure what you see on the screen is identical to what you print out. Apple solved this 25 years ago. Are web browsers different than typical gui applications in this regard? Using a printing style sheet sounds very archaic and backwards. I would like to know since I want to develop a website where printing receipts will be a core function.
IE 9 has the fastest Javscript engine period! I know that is not a popular opinion here on slashdot but Microsoft is noticing Chrome and Firefox and is getting nervous and playing catchup. It is better with graphically intensive hi res sites as it has the best GPU assisted rendering of text with DirectWrite/Direct 2D. IE 9 is a huge improvement. ... this assumes you run Windows 7 on your netbook of course and it is a free download so give it a shot. If it has a somewhat accelerated graphics it will help scroll IE 9 easier. Chrome is having flake acceleration issues for some users so I do not know. Chrome is great on Linux on my 3 year old laptop. Firefox 3.6 is downright sluggish.
"Yesterday, after viewing dozens of documents in multiple tabs on the web, memory use in Firefox had climbed on my system to over 1 Gb"ram usage than Chrome when you have +5 to +10 tabs open. I am just curious what caused that on your system? I have 8 gigs of ram on my desktop so it wont hit me as hard and I have never seen Firefox use more than 600 megs ever!
I wonder if it is a bad addon? I only use Firebug and NoScript. I use more extensions under Chrome.
You know Microsoft made the most money when things changed rapidly in the 1990s. Dos to Windows 3.1 to Windows 95 to Windows NT/200 in only 9 years made seriously bank. Compared to today where corporations use the same OS, same programs, same hardware, etc.
Microsoft, now listened to their customers and try to keep compatibility, but to their own peril.
Apple then mastered this.
Why can't they express interest buying a Mac?
You'r beloved operating system is making strong headway at 15% of the market! 10 years ago it has 2% of the market. People are buying and generation Y likes them.
Realize that not everyone is going to switch. Especially corporate users, since MS killed the Xserve and there are no deployment tools for MacOSX. Let them upgrade to Windows 7, as they wont ever go Apple unless Steve Jobs wants to actually try to target this market again.
If people use a modern OS with a good browser for HTML 5, accelerated JavaScript and GPU acceleration we all benefit with applets that can run across our phones and desktops/tablets. We can finally kill Flash which will be a plus too as I view it as the enemy of open standards.
"It drives sales to "the enemy"."
Why is Microsoft my enemy?
I do not want to hold myself or the industry hostage because someone does not like Microsoft. I tell you one thing. As someone who wants to start a web startup and develop some Andriod/Ios apps I see the enemy and that is WindowsXP and IE 6. It means different things to different people.
HTML 5 is very exciting and different than the previous versions. Video, flash, 3d in css3d or webgl (still being drafted), fonts, and even progress bars can be done. It is the future of progress and the browser wars are bringing in 3d hardware acceleration too.
So, can I use these? No. If I am going to have many corporate users with schmuck PHBs who say 11 year old IE 6 only with WindowsXP, then I will need to double my work and have a crappy IE 6 minimalist site and a cool one in which only 30% of my users will even see and hold off features. Everyone loses. It makes me look bad as I can't make it look 21st century for much of my users.
If you hate Microsoft for releasing poor products than we should be encouraging users to get rid of the bad ones. WindowsXP is bad today. It was not in 2001 (ok for the linux geeks that is debatable :-), but today it is ridiculous. Can you imagine WindowsXP failing when it came out because 40% of all users still used Windows 3.0! Or how about Windows 95 not being used widely as CPM compatible with TSR emulators are a must to run WordStar!! The bean counters say that is fine and we dont want to train our users to use anything other than our radio shack microcomputers from when Reagan was in office. I know that seems ludicrous, but how is this any different with IE 6 and Windows XP today? the products I mentioned, that I made fun of are about 10 years older than the new hits of innovation that hit.
I do not know if it is the recession and the bean counters, or plainly there are more computers today than 20 years ago. But, everyone losses when we support legacy programs. If Windows 3.11 was a must in 2001, we might still not have Windows 7 as these same apps would still be only 16-bit.
It is because corporate users freak out when they here upgrade. IE is now on an anual upgrade to keep up. IE upgrades are big and less gradual but IE 10 should be able to keep up.
Yep. Microsoft has a very cranky enterprise oriented customer base. They do not want to upgrade IE only to find out a bug screwed up an intranet app because the w3c changed a detail about a css property that the new IE follows. It seems there approach is to simply ignore the standards unless recommended as to prevent adoption. This causes everyone to wait as IE is the most popular browser in the world
If you dont have that magical piece of paper that says computer science then your not even qualified to answer phones in a call center for 80% of jobs I see, according to hr. Hell, good luck being even a secretary without one in this economy. Many employers are buckling down on filtering applicants out and are used to requiring experience, education, and 3 letters of recommendation before they eill even talk to you. If you lost your job tomorrow I highly doubt you would find another one as easily simply because hr is convinced a computer science degree teaches I.T. Support and web design. Dont under estimate it.
"Computer is not for web only, I know, it's amazing to think otherwise, but some of us actually work on them, and most of the work is not happening on the web, though reading /. you won't be able to deduce this fact."
What about salesforce.com, gmail, and clouds?
Have you seen the spec for HTML 5? Even progress bars are supported, h.264, and even data types like strings containing dates. With html 5 and javascript you can write apps that can scale from the phone to the desktop. It is the feature and yes, the dream of Watson with his old IBM mainframe with a sea of dumb terminals is becoming a reality where the server cluster is the mainframe and the desktops run a browser or phone applets on the desktop.
Businesses can save a fortune getting rid of I.T. and putting things on a cloud or internet site and it feels like the 1990s all over again with the new browsers and cell phones. Hardware acceleration and JIT javascript compilers and helping make this possible.
I believe like any technology it can be used to waste time or help business and I wouldn't worry about it slowing your system down.