What do you mean leave tape 10 years ago! Shoot I have to manually come into work every day for LTO3 tapes on our Windows Server 2000 and 2003 backup systems. Data worth millions. Nothing important or anything
"Corporations gain bargaining power by (allegedly) shareholders pooling capital. It's very hard to find someone who'll argue that corporations shouldn't act in their own interests. Why is it therefore wrong for labor to do the same? It isn't, and it's way past time for workers to figure that out."
My father (a college professor not a union member) put it this way when I was in my late teens in the early 70s: If companies can have 10 people sit around a table and decide what to pay the worker, the worker should be able to have 10 people sit around a table and decide what they will work for.
Unions are a special interest group just like AARP, AAA, NRA, etc etc.
But here is the catch. Let's say those guys in suits decided to pay you $10/hr? What would happen? More than likely you would quit and the position would be unfilled. That is called supply and demand.
As we found out with illegal immigration and outsourcing the free market will always find a way. If corporations get too abusively all the top talent will work for smaller competitiors leaving the big boys in the dust. If workers demand $35 an hour to lay a cable or run a fiber line then do not be surprised if they find a 3rd party to do it as that is not skilled for half the price?
If you feel this is unjust for the workers then why is it not unjust when the employer gets screwed? The free market balances it out well and rewards those who take the harder jobs with more skill and are willing to work more hours.
No but an immigrant from across the border will happily do the job for $7/hr to install cable. It is not a highly skilled job and doesn't even hire a HS diploma. I dated a girl whose exhusband did this with 0 education and made $35/hr to run cable and splice. Not electrical work but easy with only 2 weeks of training.
I dated a girl who used to be in a union before leaving. Shoot They get paid $35/hr and only require a HS diploma! They travel all over the US to install fiber which is an easy job that anyone immigrant can do for $10/hr happily.
How is that fair for those who went to college and get paid less, and for the shareholders, customers, and tax payers?
Not to sound like an ass but, it sounds like artificially inflated bump. If Verizon can get third party workers to come in for 50% less than what is the problem? Obviously, the market is not in sync with the union.
It is cool to bash corporations on here, but really why is it fair the workers do the same? Of course as slashdotters age I noticed this place being much more conservative than 2001 when mostly Computer Science students still in school used to post. I guess we all have jobs now.
What are you talking about. The man has his own PAC?? He has ties to big banks and this will make his company worth quite a lot due to his influence.
People need to put the hype away and see the big issue? His trade polices will hurt IT and white collar workers and retirees whose 401ks will turn to 201ks. His website is scant on details on issues other than macho speeches compared to the other candidates.
Companies banding together to exert control on governments is nothing new. This only seems new because it at least appears they aren't doing it for financial reasons, but instead are doing it for a real public good. This appears to be a good shift to me, but the cynical side of me still smells a rat.
No, unless you are a laid off factory worker in the south the policies of Trump are scary and harmful for 90% of us.
A trade war will cause the stock prices to fall. This means cost cutting to boast the price again. Now which department does not get respect and is viewed as a cost center? IT! A cut on h1b1 means outsourcing to India the whole IT department and not just bringing in a few because of a shortage.
A trade war will hurt everything from Cisco routers, to HP servers, to providing consultant services to connect brand offices to CHinese ones.
A shortage of immigrants means food prices will surge as Americans will not take it
How about doing audio work with OSS with no ALSA or PulseAudio.
What about games that link to these APIs? What about apps where the makefile doesn't use BSD specific things to compile right?
I prefer FreeBSD. I am just saying if you ask any BSD maintainer they can vouch for doing lots of coding to get something like gnome to compile. Apache maybe mute but SDL games is another matter.
FreeBSD project does more than write a kernel. Linux despite all it's faults and worts with things like SystemD and it's more wild development has excellent desktop features.
I got into a debate with my former Linux users group on this when a fork of Debian hit a half decade ago with FreeBSD.
Everything from gnome to pulse audio to SystemD is integrated in Linux. People act as if you can swap the kernel out and still run or even compile anything. I am shocked anything works at all with gnome on non Linux platforms as things are so proprietary and tight. Yes it's gnu, but what I mean by proprietary is Linux and not Unix standard way it does things since 2006
FreeBSD is a server oriented OS as far as I am concerned
Ask anyone who writes an awesome cutting edge beautiful site... only the boss to call the next day saying his aunt who has IE 6 complained you can't code and it sucks! Now you need to spend a whole week for free downgrading your site with demonic hacks and taking away features so his grandma doesn't view as incompetent.
Remember IE 6 doesn't suck. You suck because all other sites look fine etc.
Now we have to debug Edge bugs and put bug specific code so grandma of the customer won't say you are a hack who can't code etc.
IE (yes you did not misread that) doesn't have the problem that edge has. Edge reminds of IE 6 or IE 7 when you go to a site like youtube. Constant refreezing.
I unpinned edge and pinned IE 11 on my windows 10 system for legacy sites still and Chrome for everything else. IE 11 is ok (not great), but MS in the past 4 years finally made a browser that didn't crash.... until Edge came out.
Let's see what VS can do to compete against it? Competition is wonderful and I am glad it's here. I do wonder if instant run is a good idea or will introduce more bugs?
The leather in the address book is pretty ugly and so is the book stand in pre IOS 6 for news. It can go both ways.
What looked cool in 1990 was out of this world to show off graphics. That's great we are used to pretty now and of course people like our Mom's who didn't know how to use a computer would see a newstand and a leather for an address book to figure out what these things are for.
This is 2016 and now it is just about information coming back with little distractions to get in the way.
I do not like the flat but it is growing on me. I am from a different generation who thinks it's odd not to show off what the hardware can do. What I do want more of IS COLOR. Thankfully office 2016 will no longer make you blind with the white of 2013 so someone is getting the message.
FYI that desktop you grin over from 1990 from someone born on 1990 looks about as primptive as a teletype or greenscreen CRT to us:-) Flat hamburger menu makes it look slick and modern like a cell phone. A cell phone to them is what is cutting edge that is showy for some odd reason and responsive with less odd stuff for old people etc
Browsers are extremely complex application launchers and ecosystems thanks to HTML 5, apis, and CSS 3. Even the webcam API is a whole skype like api with compression, algorithms, and other things that are difficult to implement.
Worse, you need a large security team around the clock to fix bugs.
Chrome is here to stay. Of course 15 years ago I said the same with IE 6. IE 6 only mattered as it will always have 90% marketshare so IE 6 CSS and quirks will be with us always... etc.:-)... take it back we have 2 IE 6 apps at work still so yes I guess part of my prediction came true. Thankfully we have Citrix and no longer host it on the desktop like we did until the last minute during XP EOL 2 years ago.
Whether we like it or not Flat and minimalism is in as gradients and skuemorphism where objects and icons look like objects are very outdated to the millennials today and the art professors who teach this stuff to students.
Vivaldi didn't have much of a choice as this crowd would shun anything with gradients, 3d icons, and colors.
Even the greybeards in my office don't want to use Windows 10 - they don't trust why Microsoft is do determined and hell-bent on getting Windows 10 on every computer system and then install updates willy-nilly along with calling home all the time. Now, there is this incredible pressure to have everything integrated into a network based system accessible from a smartphone or tablet. Even the little gadgets that cyclists or hanglglider pilots use. Everything can be recorded, saved, logged and played back.
Visual Studio is still used for console game development (PS4 and XBox). But that was VS 2012. I've used all the different versions and it is "mutating". It used to be a simple code and compile environment like Turbo C++. Now, there is all the enterprise level code development, cross-compilation. There were always options to use third party compilers, so it has become more of a framework GUI than a compiler.
I am not a MS fanboy but need to keep up to earn a living in the corporate technology field.
Those kneckbeards probably cried like babies with XP EOL and fight tooth and nail to keep 7 off their systems in 2012, and are now doing the same with 7.
Your greybeards are retiring is my point. The new 20 something hipsters out of school can work without a PC fine and prefer flat UI, hamburger menus, and web apps on a cloud. Yes we hate MS and even I hated MS so much when I was younger that I threatned to quit IT forever if the DOJ would not punish MS back reading a post I wrote in 2002!:-)
But I grew up. MS knows this and are rightfully scared. If VS does not meet the needs of these hipsters of the millennials who is guying to buy VS 2012 and stick with emacs when you guys are retire?
If VS and Office need to remain relevant they need a mobile OS with a flat UI and great battery life and HMTL 5 and multiplatform support for SQL Server, Visual Studio, and Office. Otherwise these kids will use something else and Google already is making some inroads with GoogleDocs. Office 2016 has collaborations features with Google had for years which is nice on college papers and projects in the workplace.
This is good for you as it means more competition always benefits users even if you do not use MS products. I predict Visual Studio and Office in the next 3 to 5 years for Ubuntu if this keeps up. MS Code Editor and VS Online already runs on Linux and uses node.js.
More likely MS realized they were no longer the cool mid on the block anymore with it's visual studio and OS being the defacto standard for 90% of users.
VS is now for legacy and so is their OS and soon office!
What government can not do competition does. Visual studio and Windows 10 is a different direction as old farts are retiring and millennials who like tablets and phones and want a good office suite and development environment.
VS 2015 is a very different and almost strange beast with Android emulators included and clang. No you did not misread that
What? You can filter email easily. You can also protect your environment with a proxy server with filtering. Very inexpensively (if not free) and prevent viruses from entering your old Windows XP environment.
Hello IT! This is the director of Internal Medicine WHERE DID MY PDF files from Labcorp. I have patient lives REQUIRING THIS PDFS. Get em up!
Most ransomware comes disguised as a legitimate email and the user is stupid enough to open the zip file, run the javascript, and then ok the.exe file that is downloaded and executed. Some basic security measures would fix this but it has zero to do with Windows.
You can't stop stupid. Especially if the employee doesn't care as he or she doesn't own the computer. If it is from a boss they will open it.
However, you can block with GPO's, security updates, modern endpoint protection AV suites, and even have ports in Cisco routers shut off during detection with network protection services.
XP is not patched. It won't be updated. You can't block everything. ALSR and sandboxing cuts back on holes. network protection services has better support in a modern OS to prevent spreads.
I for one refuse to work for hospitals. Not only do they treat IT like plumbers and do not respect them if they have no PHD, but they run XP SP 2... SP 3 might be ready someday??! They use IE 6 and IE 7. Their cisco routers are turn of the century and still BSD Unix based.
Oh and it is IT's fault if they get ransomware.
The whole FDA certification created this mess! But worse, insurance companies are nickle and diming their budgets. If XP works DON"T touch it.
If people used WIndows 8/10 (yeah it looks funny boo hiss ) with secureboot it wouldn't load half of these ransomware as rootkits could be blocked.
A lesson here for those who use XP with no updates with a smile:-)... if it happened to them it could happen to you.
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What do you mean leave tape 10 years ago! Shoot I have to manually come into work every day for LTO3 tapes on our Windows Server 2000 and 2003 backup systems. Data worth millions. Nothing important or anything
"Corporations gain bargaining power by (allegedly) shareholders pooling capital. It's very hard to find someone who'll argue that corporations shouldn't act in their own interests. Why is it therefore wrong for labor to do the same? It isn't, and it's way past time for workers to figure that out."
My father (a college professor not a union member) put it this way when I was in my late teens in the early 70s: If companies can have 10 people sit around a table and decide what to pay the worker, the worker should be able to have 10 people sit around a table and decide what they will work for.
Unions are a special interest group just like AARP, AAA, NRA, etc etc.
But here is the catch. Let's say those guys in suits decided to pay you $10/hr? What would happen? More than likely you would quit and the position would be unfilled. That is called supply and demand.
As we found out with illegal immigration and outsourcing the free market will always find a way. If corporations get too abusively all the top talent will work for smaller competitiors leaving the big boys in the dust. If workers demand $35 an hour to lay a cable or run a fiber line then do not be surprised if they find a 3rd party to do it as that is not skilled for half the price?
If you feel this is unjust for the workers then why is it not unjust when the employer gets screwed? The free market balances it out well and rewards those who take the harder jobs with more skill and are willing to work more hours.
No but an immigrant from across the border will happily do the job for $7/hr to install cable. It is not a highly skilled job and doesn't even hire a HS diploma. I dated a girl whose exhusband did this with 0 education and made $35/hr to run cable and splice. Not electrical work but easy with only 2 weeks of training.
I dated a girl who used to be in a union before leaving. Shoot They get paid $35/hr and only require a HS diploma! They travel all over the US to install fiber which is an easy job that anyone immigrant can do for $10/hr happily.
How is that fair for those who went to college and get paid less, and for the shareholders, customers, and tax payers?
Not to sound like an ass but, it sounds like artificially inflated bump. If Verizon can get third party workers to come in for 50% less than what is the problem? Obviously, the market is not in sync with the union.
It is cool to bash corporations on here, but really why is it fair the workers do the same? Of course as slashdotters age I noticed this place being much more conservative than 2001 when mostly Computer Science students still in school used to post. I guess we all have jobs now.
"Scary and Harmful", just like free speech is to you libbies, huh?
Why am I a libby? Most do not support free trade? What is wrong with Cruz or Kasiach?
What are you talking about. The man has his own PAC?? He has ties to big banks and this will make his company worth quite a lot due to his influence.
People need to put the hype away and see the big issue? His trade polices will hurt IT and white collar workers and retirees whose 401ks will turn to 201ks. His website is scant on details on issues other than macho speeches compared to the other candidates.
Companies banding together to exert control on governments is nothing new. This only seems new because it at least appears they aren't doing it for financial reasons, but instead are doing it for a real public good. This appears to be a good shift to me, but the cynical side of me still smells a rat.
No, unless you are a laid off factory worker in the south the policies of Trump are scary and harmful for 90% of us.
A trade war will cause the stock prices to fall. This means cost cutting to boast the price again. Now which department does not get respect and is viewed as a cost center? IT! A cut on h1b1 means outsourcing to India the whole IT department and not just bringing in a few because of a shortage.
A trade war will hurt everything from Cisco routers, to HP servers, to providing consultant services to connect brand offices to CHinese ones.
A shortage of immigrants means food prices will surge as Americans will not take it
An ABI like every other OS on the planet has. rMS hates them for theological reasons as they encourage closed hardware.
My argument is patent agreements and contracts forbid this! A company cannot.
If Linux did this it would be more successful
How about doing audio work with OSS with no ALSA or PulseAudio.
What about games that link to these APIs? What about apps where the makefile doesn't use BSD specific things to compile right?
I prefer FreeBSD. I am just saying if you ask any BSD maintainer they can vouch for doing lots of coding to get something like gnome to compile. Apache maybe mute but SDL games is another matter.
FreeBSD project does more than write a kernel. Linux despite all it's faults and worts with things like SystemD and it's more wild development has excellent desktop features.
I got into a debate with my former Linux users group on this when a fork of Debian hit a half decade ago with FreeBSD.
Everything from gnome to pulse audio to SystemD is integrated in Linux. People act as if you can swap the kernel out and still run or even compile anything. I am shocked anything works at all with gnome on non Linux platforms as things are so proprietary and tight. Yes it's gnu, but what I mean by proprietary is Linux and not Unix standard way it does things since 2006
FreeBSD is a server oriented OS as far as I am concerned
Also what if you are a webmaster?
Ask anyone who writes an awesome cutting edge beautiful site ... only the boss to call the next day saying his aunt who has IE 6 complained you can't code and it sucks! Now you need to spend a whole week for free downgrading your site with demonic hacks and taking away features so his grandma doesn't view as incompetent.
Remember IE 6 doesn't suck. You suck because all other sites look fine etc.
Now we have to debug Edge bugs and put bug specific code so grandma of the customer won't say you are a hack who can't code etc.
IE (yes you did not misread that) doesn't have the problem that edge has. Edge reminds of IE 6 or IE 7 when you go to a site like youtube. Constant refreezing.
I unpinned edge and pinned IE 11 on my windows 10 system for legacy sites still and Chrome for everything else. IE 11 is ok (not great), but MS in the past 4 years finally made a browser that didn't crash .... until Edge came out.
Yeah like true real editor ED!
Let's see what VS can do to compete against it? Competition is wonderful and I am glad it's here. I do wonder if instant run is a good idea or will introduce more bugs?
The leather in the address book is pretty ugly and so is the book stand in pre IOS 6 for news. It can go both ways.
What looked cool in 1990 was out of this world to show off graphics. That's great we are used to pretty now and of course people like our Mom's who didn't know how to use a computer would see a newstand and a leather for an address book to figure out what these things are for.
This is 2016 and now it is just about information coming back with little distractions to get in the way.
I do not like the flat but it is growing on me. I am from a different generation who thinks it's odd not to show off what the hardware can do. What I do want more of IS COLOR. Thankfully office 2016 will no longer make you blind with the white of 2013 so someone is getting the message.
FYI that desktop you grin over from 1990 from someone born on 1990 looks about as primptive as a teletype or greenscreen CRT to us :-) Flat hamburger menu makes it look slick and modern like a cell phone. A cell phone to them is what is cutting edge that is showy for some odd reason and responsive with less odd stuff for old people etc
Browsers are extremely complex application launchers and ecosystems thanks to HTML 5, apis, and CSS 3. Even the webcam API is a whole skype like api with compression, algorithms, and other things that are difficult to implement.
Worse, you need a large security team around the clock to fix bugs.
Chrome is here to stay. Of course 15 years ago I said the same with IE 6. IE 6 only mattered as it will always have 90% marketshare so IE 6 CSS and quirks will be with us always ... etc. :-) ... take it back we have 2 IE 6 apps at work still so yes I guess part of my prediction came true. Thankfully we have Citrix and no longer host it on the desktop like we did until the last minute during XP EOL 2 years ago.
Whether we like it or not Flat and minimalism is in as gradients and skuemorphism where objects and icons look like objects are very outdated to the millennials today and the art professors who teach this stuff to students.
Vivaldi didn't have much of a choice as this crowd would shun anything with gradients, 3d icons, and colors.
I can see this being used by bosses and HR to see if someone is really sick or not
Even the greybeards in my office don't want to use Windows 10 - they don't trust why Microsoft is do determined and hell-bent on getting Windows 10 on every computer system and then install updates willy-nilly along with calling home all the time. Now, there is this incredible pressure to have everything integrated into a network based system accessible from a smartphone or tablet. Even the little gadgets that cyclists or hanglglider pilots use. Everything can be recorded, saved, logged and played back.
Visual Studio is still used for console game development (PS4 and XBox). But that was VS 2012. I've used all the different versions and it is "mutating". It used to be a simple code and compile environment like Turbo C++. Now, there is all the enterprise level code development, cross-compilation. There were always options to use third party compilers, so it has become more of a framework GUI than a compiler.
I am not a MS fanboy but need to keep up to earn a living in the corporate technology field.
Those kneckbeards probably cried like babies with XP EOL and fight tooth and nail to keep 7 off their systems in 2012, and are now doing the same with 7.
Your greybeards are retiring is my point. The new 20 something hipsters out of school can work without a PC fine and prefer flat UI, hamburger menus, and web apps on a cloud. Yes we hate MS and even I hated MS so much when I was younger that I threatned to quit IT forever if the DOJ would not punish MS back reading a post I wrote in 2002! :-)
But I grew up. MS knows this and are rightfully scared. If VS does not meet the needs of these hipsters of the millennials who is guying to buy VS 2012 and stick with emacs when you guys are retire?
If VS and Office need to remain relevant they need a mobile OS with a flat UI and great battery life and HMTL 5 and multiplatform support for SQL Server, Visual Studio, and Office. Otherwise these kids will use something else and Google already is making some inroads with GoogleDocs. Office 2016 has collaborations features with Google had for years which is nice on college papers and projects in the workplace.
This is good for you as it means more competition always benefits users even if you do not use MS products. I predict Visual Studio and Office in the next 3 to 5 years for Ubuntu if this keeps up. MS Code Editor and VS Online already runs on Linux and uses node.js.
More likely MS realized they were no longer the cool mid on the block anymore with it's visual studio and OS being the defacto standard for 90% of users.
VS is now for legacy and so is their OS and soon office!
What government can not do competition does. Visual studio and Windows 10 is a different direction as old farts are retiring and millennials who like tablets and phones and want a good office suite and development environment.
VS 2015 is a very different and almost strange beast with Android emulators included and clang. No you did not misread that
Isn't JBoss the attack vector in which WellSpan was attacked and held hostage?
Of course it is written in Java
If people used WIndows 8/10 (yeah it looks funny boo hiss ) with secureboot it wouldn't load half of these ransomware as rootkits could be blocked.
However, X-rays of my teeth will be sent to Microsoft Telemetry for analysis. Thanks, but no thanks.
yeah ok but running XP with a possible keylogger on the friendly receptionist entering your credit card and social security numbers is fine
What? You can filter email easily. You can also protect your environment with a proxy server with filtering. Very inexpensively (if not free) and prevent viruses from entering your old Windows XP environment.
Hello IT! This is the director of Internal Medicine WHERE DID MY PDF files from Labcorp. I have patient lives REQUIRING THIS PDFS. Get em up!
Most ransomware comes disguised as a legitimate email and the user is stupid enough to open the zip file, run the javascript, and then ok the .exe file that is downloaded and executed. Some basic security measures would fix this but it has zero to do with Windows.
You can't stop stupid. Especially if the employee doesn't care as he or she doesn't own the computer. If it is from a boss they will open it.
However, you can block with GPO's, security updates, modern endpoint protection AV suites, and even have ports in Cisco routers shut off during detection with network protection services.
XP is not patched. It won't be updated. You can't block everything. ALSR and sandboxing cuts back on holes. network protection services has better support in a modern OS to prevent spreads.
I for one refuse to work for hospitals. Not only do they treat IT like plumbers and do not respect them if they have no PHD, but they run XP SP 2 ... SP 3 might be ready someday??! They use IE 6 and IE 7. Their cisco routers are turn of the century and still BSD Unix based.
Oh and it is IT's fault if they get ransomware.
The whole FDA certification created this mess! But worse, insurance companies are nickle and diming their budgets. If XP works DON"T touch it.
If people used WIndows 8/10 (yeah it looks funny boo hiss ) with secureboot it wouldn't load half of these ransomware as rootkits could be blocked.
A lesson here for those who use XP with no updates with a smile :-) ... if it happened to them it could happen to you.