Mississippi Mud is pretty good for the price...Personally though this is going to be a tough one for me.
Note to other American readers- the closest thing to a good half&half would be guinness and harp or bass (I actually prefer wexford's, great if you can get it). For neat added visual effect melt a plastic spoon backwards at it's base 90 degress, convex side up, and hold it just at the level of the fluid as you pour the guinness over the spoon and onto your ale(you have to use the cans of Guinness for this to work). If done properly the guiness will sit above the ale, and all your friends will go "oooh".
I was thinking of OpenWindows from Sun, which is one of two wm's available on the sparcs in the computer labs where I work*. It is indeed slow and ugly, but at least I don't have that nasty app-bar that CDS insists on putting on the screen, taking up valuable desktop real-estate.
*There is also twm available, but you have to start your session in some sort of failsafe mode to use it, and it makes OpenWindows look like KDE2 by comparison.
That's pretty much what they did with the Kerberos specs, after putting them out with the click-wrap license. We probably even gave them the idea for something like this by publishing their paper without consent.
I'd say more than that. If you're a developer you can no longer open any email from anyone other than those you already know, maybe even having to have someone screen them for you. Imagine this scenario;
To:Linus Torvaldes[Torvaldes@transmeta.com]
From:Billy Bob [bill-b@notmicrosoft.com]
Subject: Kernel Patch.
blah blah blah (insert MS code here).
Or worse yet sending it to the kernel mailing list, tainting all the relevent people in one fell swoop? Even if MS doesn't do it, there are plenty of people out there with nothing better to do than try to fuck up other people's day.
And you would do what exactly with that steaming pile of crap that it is? Have you heard the expression tar'baby before? Once you've even glanced at something like Whistler source, every thing you code involving Windows (think WINE or plex86 here) would be suspect. The worst thing you could possibly do to hurt the OSS movement would be to wantonly distribute something like that. Better to just burn it and pass it around on unmarked CD's if that's your plan.
What kills me is the way C|Net blackened WINE developers after all the "Deplorable Acts of Corporate..." bleating from Ballmer, and the obligatory reference to Linux. Safe to say that while there are probably hundreds of thousands of people who would love their copy of Whistler source, anyone doing any serious developement of a project involving, say, reimplimenting the Microsoft API wouldn't want to be in the same building as a stolen copy of code, let alone look at it. Especially after the whole thing with Kerberos.
Wouldn't it just suck to be a WINE developer and wake up one morning with a copy of pilfered source in your inbox, and the FBI knocking to ask questions because they tracked it down from the sender's Russian address?
Fist Prost
"We're talking about a planet of helpdesks."
Re:/. edit box (Was: See what happens when you...)
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Assuming you're new here-There is a "slashdot reader" that someone put out on Freshmeat. I haven't had any problems with the defaults here so I haven't bothered to try it out yet but you wish to, and feel free to modify it to your liking. Also bear in mind that slashdot is an open source project. You can always submit a patch and if they like it who knows...
If you're in a position to convince your management that Microsoft is not the best solution out there. Here's a sample line of FUD to get you started;
"As demonstrated by this latest action, Microsoft clearly demonstrates that they hafve something to hide. If you go with Microsoft products and at some point in the future would like to point out shortcomings or your dissatisfaction with some product, don't be surprised to learn that you cannot share this information with anyone outside your organization."
check out yi.org. They offer free subdomains (something.yi.org) and one of the nice features is that their service works for mail too. They also have a clients page that has scripts for pretty much any OS you'd need to run (a nice perl one also) to update your DNS efficiently, if the need arises.
That's what I use, I have a DHCP address, and that, combined with a yi.org account, and a script that updates my IP every once in a while...I haven't had any problems at all. Hell, if you're only doing email a 486 or low pentium would probably be sufficient.
At the same time the press is already making a big deal about how few people go and vote, so there is no real difference. I would instead reccomend gathering groups to protest voting outside of a large polling station, be prepared to speak to the media (they will be on you like flies on shit) and give reasoned arguments for your non-vote. Picket signs, flyers, anything you want, but be on the defensive, you're arguing an uphill battle against the doubleplusgoodthink that has been fed to people about their government since childhood.
If you're planning a revolution, you may have to pay in much more than bandwitdh. I'd say the price is cheap, depending on your reasons for needing true privacy.
Actually IE (and I think netscape does this as well) will let you enter your password seperately.
Just use ftp://user@site.com and enter the password when it prompts. After you quit every instance of IE or NS the address will remain in the history, however it should forget your password.
For the proxy challenged (as myself, also). I just went and puttied into my bsd server pingeded it and opened it up in lynx to make sure I wasn't tripping their proxy alarms for a good reason (If you don't trust blind links or IP's from/. you may want to do something similar)
HTH
And I'm not cynical, I admit; I'd rather have an intelligent discussion on/. rather than wreck it.
Let's review the facts. You want to have an intelligent conversation on Slashdot, and Streetlawyer has told you that you've been trolled in the past. Can you see that the two are not mutually exclusive?
If nothing else, engaging one of the 'good' trolls here (the ones who get moderated up and frequently have decent if not flawed arguments) does wonders for your own online conversation. They will force you to back up your statements, face your opinions and basically be absolutely certain you know what you are talking about, or your post will be shredded on the followup. Don't mistake that there often is quite a bit of useful info posted in response to even the most blatant, obvious trolls. It's even quite possible, easy in most cases to win the argument against one, regardless of whether you've lost the game.
All I'm saying is that you should realize that troll postings do have a certain usefulness, regardless of their irritation factor. If they bother you then simply don't respond, and the troll will either go way, or come back with something a bit more useful to the conversation. Think about it.
Fist Prost
"We're talking about a planet of helpdesks."
Re:Conceding your lawsuit is baseless?
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I think what the original poster is trying to say is that "If you point out the truth to me I will clap my hands over my ears, shut my eyes and chant 'LALALA-I-CANT-HEAR-YOU-LALALALA' until you go away." Which pretty much warns you that there is no spirited debate or serious discussion to be had under his thread.
A lot of us old-timers, yes. That and Debian. For those who started Linux in the last 3-4 years it was probably RHAT, Suse or one of the other "Store Brands".
I think it's simply because you're the 10,000th person to mention something about AlGore saying he started the internet. Really I'm just putting that in the comment to see if there is a perl script aut-modding down anything having to do with Al and the "Info-Superhighway"(If there isn't there ought to be, Rob...thanks)
Anyway, I'm checking my watch right now and I'm betting there will be a retraction/clarification/apology made by RHAT and posted here by 12:30pm tommorrow, if that long. And for that matter I predict at least 1 person will post and state that their submission was not only 10 minutes ahead of the one that got posted, but was rejected because/. "hates them".
Microsoft is brilliant at stealing other's work right away from them (I'm not neccesarily flaming them for this, mind you). Look at how well they poisoned any attempt at operability with their extended Kerberos by distributing the specs for it, allowing thousands of geeks to crack and distribute it and then send out a few weak letters saying "now, stoppit...". I'm sure they only had to seed/. by posting it once or twice, and we did the rest of it for them. Now anyone working on compatibility has to be completely sure that their work won't be called into question, and that they haven't even glanced at the 'stolen' IP before writing code.
Look for more of this type of "hiding in the open" as Microsoft begins playing with open source groups and companies. Hopefully we've learned our lesson on that last one, don't go being contrary about their restrictions just because they say not to. You'll hurt yourselves in the long run.
I think it's a little late for that scenario. You won't need to explain to the newest of newbies more than once that no hard drive = no storing stuff that the man doesn't want you to. Diskless workstations are going to go over like a led zeppelin, and MS knows it.
More likely they will attempt to end piracy of *their* apps by slowly phasing out physical copies. Certainly you won't need to install 800 megs of bloat in order to use office, provided you maintain your subscription all the popular apps will be piped on-demand to your screen. Maybe an operating system kernel that immediately connects to the net and updates itself and vital system files to the latest version, provided your account is still active. Think Microsoft Windows Update around the clock. Of course companies that choose not to partner with microsoft.net could very well be patented away from adopting the same types of schemes, and will continue to distribute there wares in a pirate-freindly, copy to the hardrive edition only.
I think a -1 bonus to posts would be a great thing. A lot of times I'll reply to someone in an offtopic thread, and know that noone other than who I'm replying to will wish to see it, or that what I'm posting may be relevent, yet not worthy of archiving. I'm not talking about a -1 o the karma however, just an option, like my +1 bonus, to be seen at a lower threshold only.
Slackware. One of the nicer (although it may seem a bit more spartan at first) distros out there. Get an ISO from someone and give it a weekend. If you're not convinced by a weekend of slack then I reccomend maybe trying Suse or maybe even one of the BSD's (which aren't bad either, I happen to enjoy OpenBSD).
Not to start YAFdistro war, I've never had a problem with other versions of RH or anything from debian. Each has their own goals, and I suppose each their own audience. Slackware just seems to me to be the best tradeoff between learning by getting your hands dirty and getting the results you need.
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Mississippi Mud is pretty good for the price...Personally though this is going to be a tough one for me.
Note to other American readers- the closest thing to a good half&half would be guinness and harp or bass (I actually prefer wexford's, great if you can get it). For neat added visual effect melt a plastic spoon backwards at it's base 90 degress, convex side up, and hold it just at the level of the fluid as you pour the guinness over the spoon and onto your ale(you have to use the cans of Guinness for this to work). If done properly the guiness will sit above the ale, and all your friends will go "oooh".
Fist Prost
"We're talking about a planet of helpdesks."
Try this->All the gopher servers in the world (that we know of). It should work in most web browsers.
Fist Prost
"We're talking about a planet of helpdesks."
No, it's radiskull, and he will kill you one by one.
Fist Prost
"We're talking about a planet of helpdesks."
I was thinking of OpenWindows from Sun, which is one of two wm's available on the sparcs in the computer labs where I work*. It is indeed slow and ugly, but at least I don't have that nasty app-bar that CDS insists on putting on the screen, taking up valuable desktop real-estate.
*There is also twm available, but you have to start your session in some sort of failsafe mode to use it, and it makes OpenWindows look like KDE2 by comparison.
Fist Prost
"We're talking about a planet of helpdesks."
--begin signed conspiracy theory block--
That's pretty much what they did with the Kerberos specs, after putting them out with the click-wrap license. We probably even gave them the idea for something like this by publishing their paper without consent.
Fist Prost
"We're talking about a planet of helpdesks."
I'd say more than that. If you're a developer you can no longer open any email from anyone other than those you already know, maybe even having to have someone screen them for you. Imagine this scenario;
To:Linus Torvaldes[Torvaldes@transmeta.com]
From:Billy Bob [bill-b@notmicrosoft.com]
Subject: Kernel Patch.
blah blah blah (insert MS code here).
Or worse yet sending it to the kernel mailing list, tainting all the relevent people in one fell swoop? Even if MS doesn't do it, there are plenty of people out there with nothing better to do than try to fuck up other people's day.
Fist Prost
"We're talking about a planet of helpdesks."
And you would do what exactly with that steaming pile of crap that it is? Have you heard the expression tar'baby before? Once you've even glanced at something like Whistler source, every thing you code involving Windows (think WINE or plex86 here) would be suspect. The worst thing you could possibly do to hurt the OSS movement would be to wantonly distribute something like that. Better to just burn it and pass it around on unmarked CD's if that's your plan.
Fist Prost
"We're talking about a planet of helpdesks."
What kills me is the way C|Net blackened WINE developers after all the "Deplorable Acts of Corporate..." bleating from Ballmer, and the obligatory reference to Linux. Safe to say that while there are probably hundreds of thousands of people who would love their copy of Whistler source, anyone doing any serious developement of a project involving, say, reimplimenting the Microsoft API wouldn't want to be in the same building as a stolen copy of code, let alone look at it. Especially after the whole thing with Kerberos.
Wouldn't it just suck to be a WINE developer and wake up one morning with a copy of pilfered source in your inbox, and the FBI knocking to ask questions because they tracked it down from the sender's Russian address?
Fist Prost
"We're talking about a planet of helpdesks."
Assuming you're new here-There is a "slashdot reader" that someone put out on Freshmeat. I haven't had any problems with the defaults here so I haven't bothered to try it out yet but you wish to, and feel free to modify it to your liking. Also bear in mind that slashdot is an open source project. You can always submit a patch and if they like it who knows...
Fist Prost
"We're talking about a planet of helpdesks."
If you're in a position to convince your management that Microsoft is not the best solution out there. Here's a sample line of FUD to get you started;
"As demonstrated by this latest action, Microsoft clearly demonstrates that they hafve something to hide. If you go with Microsoft products and at some point in the future would like to point out shortcomings or your dissatisfaction with some product, don't be surprised to learn that you cannot share this information with anyone outside your organization."
Fist Prost
"We're talking about a planet of helpdesks."
I don't know... at least he signs his name.
And without so much as providing any personal information or means of contact the difference is?
BTW I'm anonymous too, so don't bother emailing.
Fist Prost
"We're talking about a planet of helpdesks."
check out yi.org. They offer free subdomains (something.yi.org) and one of the nice features is that their service works for mail too. They also have a clients page that has scripts for pretty much any OS you'd need to run (a nice perl one also) to update your DNS efficiently, if the need arises.
Fist Prost
"We're talking about a planet of helpdesks."
That's what I use, I have a DHCP address, and that, combined with a yi.org account, and a script that updates my IP every once in a while...I haven't had any problems at all. Hell, if you're only doing email a 486 or low pentium would probably be sufficient.
Fist Prost
"We're talking about a planet of helpdesks."
At the same time the press is already making a big deal about how few people go and vote, so there is no real difference. I would instead reccomend gathering groups to protest voting outside of a large polling station, be prepared to speak to the media (they will be on you like flies on shit) and give reasoned arguments for your non-vote. Picket signs, flyers, anything you want, but be on the defensive, you're arguing an uphill battle against the doubleplusgoodthink that has been fed to people about their government since childhood.
Fist Prost
"We're talking about a planet of helpdesks."
If you're planning a revolution, you may have to pay in much more than bandwitdh. I'd say the price is cheap, depending on your reasons for needing true privacy.
Fist Prost
"We're talking about a planet of helpdesks."
Actually IE (and I think netscape does this as well) will let you enter your password seperately.
Just use ftp://user@site.com and enter the password when it prompts. After you quit every instance of IE or NS the address will remain in the history, however it should forget your password.
Fist Prost
"We're talking about a planet of helpdesks."
216.86.109.135
/. you may want to do something similar)
For the proxy challenged (as myself, also). I just went and puttied into my bsd server pingeded it and opened it up in lynx to make sure I wasn't tripping their proxy alarms for a good reason (If you don't trust blind links or IP's from
HTH
Fist Prost
"We're talking about a planet of helpdesks."
And I'm not cynical, I admit; I'd rather have an intelligent discussion on /. rather than wreck it.
Let's review the facts. You want to have an intelligent conversation on Slashdot, and Streetlawyer has told you that you've been trolled in the past. Can you see that the two are not mutually exclusive?
If nothing else, engaging one of the 'good' trolls here (the ones who get moderated up and frequently have decent if not flawed arguments) does wonders for your own online conversation. They will force you to back up your statements, face your opinions and basically be absolutely certain you know what you are talking about, or your post will be shredded on the followup. Don't mistake that there often is quite a bit of useful info posted in response to even the most blatant, obvious trolls. It's even quite possible, easy in most cases to win the argument against one, regardless of whether you've lost the game.
All I'm saying is that you should realize that troll postings do have a certain usefulness, regardless of their irritation factor. If they bother you then simply don't respond, and the troll will either go way, or come back with something a bit more useful to the conversation. Think about it.
Fist Prost
"We're talking about a planet of helpdesks."
I think what the original poster is trying to say is that "If you point out the truth to me I will clap my hands over my ears, shut my eyes and chant 'LALALA-I-CANT-HEAR-YOU-LALALALA' until you go away." Which pretty much warns you that there is no spirited debate or serious discussion to be had under his thread.
Fist Prost
"We're talking about a planet of helpdesks."
A lot of us old-timers, yes. That and Debian. For those who started Linux in the last 3-4 years it was probably RHAT, Suse or one of the other "Store Brands".
Fist Prost
"We're talking about a planet of helpdesks."
I think it's simply because you're the 10,000th person to mention something about AlGore saying he started the internet. Really I'm just putting that in the comment to see if there is a perl script aut-modding down anything having to do with Al and the "Info-Superhighway"(If there isn't there ought to be, Rob...thanks)
/. "hates them".
Anyway, I'm checking my watch right now and I'm betting there will be a retraction/clarification/apology made by RHAT and posted here by 12:30pm tommorrow, if that long. And for that matter I predict at least 1 person will post and state that their submission was not only 10 minutes ahead of the one that got posted, but was rejected because
Fist Prost
"We're talking about a planet of helpdesks."
Microsoft is brilliant at stealing other's work right away from them (I'm not neccesarily flaming them for this, mind you). Look at how well they poisoned any attempt at operability with their extended Kerberos by distributing the specs for it, allowing thousands of geeks to crack and distribute it and then send out a few weak letters saying "now, stoppit...". I'm sure they only had to seed /. by posting it once or twice, and we did the rest of it for them. Now anyone working on compatibility has to be completely sure that their work won't be called into question, and that they haven't even glanced at the 'stolen' IP before writing code.
Look for more of this type of "hiding in the open" as Microsoft begins playing with open source groups and companies. Hopefully we've learned our lesson on that last one, don't go being contrary about their restrictions just because they say not to. You'll hurt yourselves in the long run.
Fist Prost
"We're talking about a planet of helpdesks."
I think it's a little late for that scenario. You won't need to explain to the newest of newbies more than once that no hard drive = no storing stuff that the man doesn't want you to. Diskless workstations are going to go over like a led zeppelin, and MS knows it.
More likely they will attempt to end piracy of *their* apps by slowly phasing out physical copies. Certainly you won't need to install 800 megs of bloat in order to use office, provided you maintain your subscription all the popular apps will be piped on-demand to your screen. Maybe an operating system kernel that immediately connects to the net and updates itself and vital system files to the latest version, provided your account is still active. Think Microsoft Windows Update around the clock. Of course companies that choose not to partner with microsoft.net could very well be patented away from adopting the same types of schemes, and will continue to distribute there wares in a pirate-freindly, copy to the hardrive edition only.
Fist Prost
"We're talking about a planet of helpdesks."
I think a -1 bonus to posts would be a great thing. A lot of times I'll reply to someone in an offtopic thread, and know that noone other than who I'm replying to will wish to see it, or that what I'm posting may be relevent, yet not worthy of archiving. I'm not talking about a -1 o the karma however, just an option, like my +1 bonus, to be seen at a lower threshold only.
Fist Prost
"We're talking about a planet of helpdesks."
Slackware. One of the nicer (although it may seem a bit more spartan at first) distros out there. Get an ISO from someone and give it a weekend. If you're not convinced by a weekend of slack then I reccomend maybe trying Suse or maybe even one of the BSD's (which aren't bad either, I happen to enjoy OpenBSD).
Not to start YAFdistro war, I've never had a problem with other versions of RH or anything from debian. Each has their own goals, and I suppose each their own audience. Slackware just seems to me to be the best tradeoff between learning by getting your hands dirty and getting the results you need.
Fist Prost
"We're talking about a planet of helpdesks."