I have the same problem with a Dell port replicator. Sync starts and drops before completion 90% of the time. Dell says the Palm hardware is no good... yeah right. Anyone have any ideas?
The iBook has video out (which support mirroring AND dual displays).
The iBook's LCD only supports 1024x768, but the card in it supports much higher... which you see if you hook it up to another monitor.
Do you own one? Sorry, but anyone here can go to Apple's support boards, Macintouch.com, MacNN, whatever, and confirm that:
The new iBook does NOT support dual displays (only mirroring)
You CANNOT drive an external display at any resolution greater than 1024 x 768.
Both of these apply to both MacOS 9 and X. If you've somehow hacked it to make it work, back it up with a URL or something. Believe me, there are lots of people pissed because it doesn't work, and we're all eagerly awaiting your reply telling us how to do it.
P.S., I suspect you will not reply, because you'll do the research and find that you're wrong. There's a guy further up in this thread, that claimed the same thing, then never came back to back it up. (I really do wish you weren't wrong - these issues are the only thing stopping me from buying this machine).
Well, the point is that it's not the great machine it appears to be at first glance.
If you want a powerful machine, buy one.
That's exactly the point. I say Apple is overpriced, you say look at the iBook. I say the iBook is crippled and not powerful, you say buy a TiBook. The TiBook STARTS at $2600, which damn well is overpriced. You say "Apple isn't overpriced, we have the iBook!" See my point?
The TiBook is a great machine. There is no need for Apple to cripple the lowend to make it look good. If they do, maybe the TiBook is priced too high?
I've said it one thousand times. I don't want 5 FireWire devices hanging off the back of my computer. Too many cords, and it makes a system hard to move around.
The iMac has no PCI slots. If you want PCI slots, you must pay $1699, which is too much, which is the point.
But that is of course since standard mac users don't need anything better than the top quality consumer level soundcard that is already built in.
What if I want to add optical 5.1 sound out so I can play my DVDs on my stereo system? Oops, I guess you can't. What if I want to add stereo RCA in? You can't. What about hot games that take advantage of special fx in new sound cards? You can't. Etc.
Because I don't want 4 or 5 FireWire devices hanging off the back of my computer, that's why. It's a mess, makes too many cords, and makes it hard to move your computer.
I have no problem with the iMac not being expandable. The real problem is that the G4 tower, the only Mac with any real expansion options, STARTS at $1699. That is too much to pay for a low end, expandable computer.
If your $999 config is like the one I put together at the Dell web site (who do you have to do to get to the Dell online store, anyway? sheesh.) then it lacks an Ethernet card and FireWire.
Ethernet is available on the motherboard (built in). FireWire is $50 and Dell will be glad to install it for you.
1. Plug computer in.
2. Turn computer on.
3. There is no step 3.
Those steps would be the same with the Dell. Think you can figure out how to plug in a monitor?
I assume the additional memory is installed when that G4 comes to you?
Something tells me that Dell, Gateway, etc. don't send your extra RAM in a static bag along with your system... guess what, they ALL install the memory for you. So why does Apple charge double for the same service?
$1299 for a fully-featured, beautifully designed and built 5-pound, 1.3 inch thick notebook computer with 5-hour battery life, CD-ROM, FireWire, the best movie-editing software there is, complete MP3 software, built-in wireless antennas, video mirroring, TV-out, 10x7 display, with a state-of-the-art Unix-based OS with Java2, and there's still a guy out there who can complain that Macs are too expensive.
I think almost all of us would agree that the new iBook is an industry leader in value. My complaints go mostly toward the G4 tower and iMac. If Apple can assemble and sell the iBook for $1299, with a portable form factor, with an LCD, they damn well could sell a tower with 4 slots for $999, but they refuse to. They are losing out on a LOT of sales.
At $999 I (and I bet a lot of other readers too) would buy one in a heartbeat, but at $1700, forget it.
P.S. Dell.com charges $310 to go from 128 megs to 512 megs.
Apple.com charges $400 to go from 128 to 384 megs.
What's wrong with this picture? Both chips probably come from crucial/micron, too, so the only logical conclusion is that Apple is fucking you. This especially hurts consumers like schools, who prefer to get it all in one box, rather than adding 3rd party memory to a system.
256 mb for 400 when was the last time you even looked at mac Ram? Get your facts straight before you post.
My facts ARE straight, chief. Go to the Apple store and configure a G4. They come with 128 megs of RAM. Now look at the drop down for "384 megs of RAM" - it's a $400 increase. That's right, an additional 256 megs costs $400. Anyone can verify this by visiting the website.
I'm surprised no one has mentioned the new iBook's (which is otherwise a nice, competitively priced computer) crippled video out. On a laptop with a 12 inch screen, it would be REAL nice to run the video out to show 1280 x 1024 on your 17 inch CRT, right? Or maybe drive a high resolution projector for a PowerPoint presentation?
It would be nice, except that you can't, because Apple intentionally crippled the video out so that it will only do 1024x768, even though the video chipset is capable of 1600x1200.
This is deplorable! Why are they intentionally reducing functionality?
Dell makes their top end look good by giving faster and faster chips and more storage, not by crippling the low end.
It has been suggested to me that they don't want to take sales away from the TiBook. Well, if the TiBook looks overpriced compared to the iBook, maybe they should revisit the pricing, huh?
. the iMac starts at $1000, roughly comparable to many of the $900-1100 low-end boxes being offered by the big x86 producers.
Dell's $999 offering is a Pentium IV 1.3 ghz, 256 MB RAM. Is that what you would call "low-end"? Sorry, but if you want to make Apple look competitive, the iMac is not the way.
Apple has a rather bad habit of introducing a very competitive machine and then not bothering to update it until it's quite uncompetitive.
True, true. Why is this? Dell, Gateway, et al seem to be able to react to market movements on a daily basis. Why does it take Apple 6 months to drop their prices? Meanwhile, Dell and Gateway get cheaper, and cheaper, and cheaper. Then Apple announces new models at a glitzy trade show, and they are competitive again. Then PCs get cheaper over the next 6 months... and repeat.
Why doesn't Apple just make the price changes on the Apple store without a huge keynote announcement? New G3 available? Add it as an option in the drop down menu with a $250 premium. I never figured out why they can't do this.
All I can figure is that Apple gets such a HUGE bump from major announcements, that it offsets any sales lost by not gradually dropping their prices to stay competitive.
I think it's fairly clear that Apple purchases and resells higher quality parts than other box makers.
This is the dumbest justification for Apple's high prices I have ever seen.
I can assure you that Apple uses the same Maxtor/Seagate/whatever hard drives as everyone else. Dell, and most other OEMs use Micron/Crucial memory, and I can assure you Apple uses no better. The CDRW burners and DVD drives are frequently the exact same MODEL NUMBER as those used in Wintel machines.
Do you really think some Apple guy calls up Maxtor and says "hey, we're running kind of low on 40 gig drives. Can you pull some from the 'high quality' box and send us some?" Come on.
In the era of the clones, I bought a new PPC 7200/90 for $999 - exactly what my roomate paid for a pentium 90 at the same time. THAT was a competitive computer, in every manner. Better GUI (vs. Win95), similar expandability, better case, SCSI hard drive and cdrom. Sadly, those days seem to be gone.
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FYI the problem I'm experiencing is with sync over the serial port, not over USB.
I have the same problem with a Dell port replicator. Sync starts and drops before completion 90% of the time. Dell says the Palm hardware is no good... yeah right. Anyone have any ideas?
The iBook's LCD only supports 1024x768, but the card in it supports much higher... which you see if you hook it up to another monitor.
Do you own one? Sorry, but anyone here can go to Apple's support boards, Macintouch.com, MacNN, whatever, and confirm that:
The new iBook does NOT support dual displays (only mirroring)
You CANNOT drive an external display at any resolution greater than 1024 x 768.
Both of these apply to both MacOS 9 and X. If you've somehow hacked it to make it work, back it up with a URL or something. Believe me, there are lots of people pissed because it doesn't work, and we're all eagerly awaiting your reply telling us how to do it.
P.S., I suspect you will not reply, because you'll do the research and find that you're wrong. There's a guy further up in this thread, that claimed the same thing, then never came back to back it up. (I really do wish you weren't wrong - these issues are the only thing stopping me from buying this machine).
If you want a powerful machine, buy one.
That's exactly the point. I say Apple is overpriced, you say look at the iBook. I say the iBook is crippled and not powerful, you say buy a TiBook. The TiBook STARTS at $2600, which damn well is overpriced. You say "Apple isn't overpriced, we have the iBook!" See my point?
The TiBook is a great machine. There is no need for Apple to cripple the lowend to make it look good. If they do, maybe the TiBook is priced too high?
USB and FireWire are not the answer for every expansion question.
P.S. Let me know when the USB version of the GeForce3 comes out, I'll be eagerly awaiting it.
The iMac has no PCI slots. If you want PCI slots, you must pay $1699, which is too much, which is the point.
You disagree with what, exactly? The post you replied to is talking about how annoying it is that Apple keeps their product plans such a secret.
When you say you disagree, you're saying that you prefer it that way? I don't get it - how can that possibly be good for the consumer?
Thanks for the non-response, by the way. I can't believe you got modded up to "2, informative" for a statement which is FALSE.
Yes, simulscan works fine. But only up to 1024x768. In addition, as stated above, dual display is also intentionally crippled. This is a damn shame.
What if I want to add optical 5.1 sound out so I can play my DVDs on my stereo system? Oops, I guess you can't. What if I want to add stereo RCA in? You can't. What about hot games that take advantage of special fx in new sound cards? You can't. Etc.
I have no problem with the iMac not being expandable. The real problem is that the G4 tower, the only Mac with any real expansion options, STARTS at $1699. That is too much to pay for a low end, expandable computer.
Ethernet is available on the motherboard (built in). FireWire is $50 and Dell will be glad to install it for you.
1. Plug computer in.
2. Turn computer on.
3. There is no step 3.
Those steps would be the same with the Dell. Think you can figure out how to plug in a monitor?
You sure can, but you will only be able to go up to 1024x768.
100% BS, buddy. Maybe under Linux you are, but not OS 9 or X. On the iBook 2 that just came out?
Sorry, but no. If you are, a LOT of iBook users would like to know how you did it.
Something tells me that Dell, Gateway, etc. don't send your extra RAM in a static bag along with your system... guess what, they ALL install the memory for you. So why does Apple charge double for the same service?
Actually, it can't take a 3rd party ANYTHING.
Hope you like it, DannyiMac, because it's soldered on, and there's no way to add another.
I think almost all of us would agree that the new iBook is an industry leader in value. My complaints go mostly toward the G4 tower and iMac. If Apple can assemble and sell the iBook for $1299, with a portable form factor, with an LCD, they damn well could sell a tower with 4 slots for $999, but they refuse to. They are losing out on a LOT of sales.
At $999 I (and I bet a lot of other readers too) would buy one in a heartbeat, but at $1700, forget it.
Apple.com charges $400 to go from 128 to 384 megs.
What's wrong with this picture? Both chips probably come from crucial/micron, too, so the only logical conclusion is that Apple is fucking you. This especially hurts consumers like schools, who prefer to get it all in one box, rather than adding 3rd party memory to a system.
My facts ARE straight, chief. Go to the Apple store and configure a G4. They come with 128 megs of RAM. Now look at the drop down for "384 megs of RAM" - it's a $400 increase. That's right, an additional 256 megs costs $400. Anyone can verify this by visiting the website.
Uh, how many have you got? - I count ONE consumer level sound card available for mac - SoundBlaster. That's IT. There aren't any!
I'm surprised no one has mentioned the new iBook's (which is otherwise a nice, competitively priced computer) crippled video out. On a laptop with a 12 inch screen, it would be REAL nice to run the video out to show 1280 x 1024 on your 17 inch CRT, right? Or maybe drive a high resolution projector for a PowerPoint presentation?
It would be nice, except that you can't, because Apple intentionally crippled the video out so that it will only do 1024x768, even though the video chipset is capable of 1600x1200.
This is deplorable! Why are they intentionally reducing functionality?
Dell makes their top end look good by giving faster and faster chips and more storage, not by crippling the low end.
It has been suggested to me that they don't want to take sales away from the TiBook. Well, if the TiBook looks overpriced compared to the iBook, maybe they should revisit the pricing, huh?
Dell's $999 offering is a Pentium IV 1.3 ghz, 256 MB RAM. Is that what you would call "low-end"? Sorry, but if you want to make Apple look competitive, the iMac is not the way.
True, true. Why is this? Dell, Gateway, et al seem to be able to react to market movements on a daily basis. Why does it take Apple 6 months to drop their prices? Meanwhile, Dell and Gateway get cheaper, and cheaper, and cheaper. Then Apple announces new models at a glitzy trade show, and they are competitive again. Then PCs get cheaper over the next 6 months... and repeat.
Why doesn't Apple just make the price changes on the Apple store without a huge keynote announcement? New G3 available? Add it as an option in the drop down menu with a $250 premium. I never figured out why they can't do this.
All I can figure is that Apple gets such a HUGE bump from major announcements, that it offsets any sales lost by not gradually dropping their prices to stay competitive.
This is the dumbest justification for Apple's high prices I have ever seen.
I can assure you that Apple uses the same Maxtor/Seagate/whatever hard drives as everyone else. Dell, and most other OEMs use Micron/Crucial memory, and I can assure you Apple uses no better. The CDRW burners and DVD drives are frequently the exact same MODEL NUMBER as those used in Wintel machines.
Do you really think some Apple guy calls up Maxtor and says "hey, we're running kind of low on 40 gig drives. Can you pull some from the 'high quality' box and send us some?" Come on.
In the era of the clones, I bought a new PPC 7200/90 for $999 - exactly what my roomate paid for a pentium 90 at the same time. THAT was a competitive computer, in every manner. Better GUI (vs. Win95), similar expandability, better case, SCSI hard drive and cdrom. Sadly, those days seem to be gone.
Bring back the clones!