If you can spare an extra couple bucks (I mean... really...) you might as well spring $6.99 and get the "Total Annihilation: Commander Pack". It's a four CD set with a statagy guide. I bought six copies for my friends.
Re:Why not demand all games 2+ years old be opened
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Unreal Tournament is still turning a profit. I've seen it for $35 in stores this month. I just bought six copies of TA:CC for $7 a piece, which I imagine was about the manufacturing cost for the box set. And the company that owns TA is no longer in business. I guess you could compare this to the "Free BeOS" petition. The company that owns it isn't around anymore, it's a really great product, and if you wanted to purchase it, it would be difficult. So we ask the owner to give it to us.
I admit, this is offtopic, but while I'm thinking about it...
Ok, Voyager (as in NASA's probe) was brought up (ok it was the focus) in one of the ST movies, but planet launched space probes from other species aren't really ever talked about in StarTrek. Why was warp drive the deciding factor for first contact? Why not "hey they shot a probe hundreds of millions of light years away from their planet, and they're still gathering information from it!"?
I mean, what if Voyager sends us back a picture of something living on another planet? "Hello, we know you're there and we're coming after you." Seems like a good reason to go talk to the people responsible for the craft.
The biggest reason it's going offline is the DoS attacks that it's had to endure. I agree that they can't go on the way they've been, but going offline may not be the right answer either. I'm sure the server will continue running in some dark room where only the sys admins know about it, and only 'special' people get access to it.
But the point is, punk-ass imature little brats have ruined something that we all love. When a group of people vandalize buildings to the point they can't be used, the building gets torn down. It's pretty much the same thing. And it sucks that the villian doesn't pay for that either.
Unfortunately that leaves some that don't... they get older, they get more money, and they do more damage. It really is sad that punk kids have destroyed 'digital heritage'. I never used EFNet much (mostly an Undernet guy myself), but we always hear about how cool and great it is. It's a shame that the oldest running server is going away. It's like someone destroying an American icon or something. Oh shit, someone did that recently too...
I work for an advertising and marketing firm in central Arkansas. Let me tell you, it's scary when the account execs (sales people) and creatives get together and start scheming up new ways to bludgen the public with marketing slogans. The worst are when they come to me asking for technical advice. On several occations I've told them the best thing to do is leave 'technology' out, because they'd only screw it up. They don't listen, and they screw up, nearly every time. This Shoshkeles thing is a prefect example. It COULD have been cool, but instead it's annoying and people are going to bitch and moan. Then it's going to go away.
All we need is a simple link at the bottom of the page that says "Lots of neat stuff". And when you click the link, you _actually_ get a page with lots of neat stuff. That would be freaking amazing! (:
~LoudMusic
Are you thinking what I'm thinking?
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We have Tiny Apps... OpenBeOS... and the iPod. Are you thinking what I'm thinking? Heh heh...
Alright, how many of these people are the type that want a portable Mp3 device? Maybe half. We have 35+ Macs that would support the iPod where I work. Of the "Mac users" that use them, only one or two would even think of buying a portable Mp3 player, and they'd probably get something more "universal". And they didn't have to buy the expensive Mac in the first place!!
So you're willing to make payments on something that is essentially treated as a toy? Granted you might to a little work on it, but nearly 90% of the time you spend using it, it's a fancy toy, right?
Might just be the way I was raised. I can't stand doing that. If there's something I want, just because I want it, I save until I can afford it. That way I've payed the least amount for it (brand new) and I can stop thinking about it. I get to just enjoy it. When you make payments you end up spending more than the list price, usually a lot. Also by waiting, the price comes down, and new revisions come out.
Just my view on 'stuff'. I do, however, think that the latest iBooks have been Apple's "best bang for the buck" product ever. If you're gonna have an Apple, this iBook is the way to go.
I'm probably going to wait for apple to upgrade these a little, or to drop the price to $350 or $300, but I'm definitely going to buy one as soon as it's practicle. If i wasn't still paying off my iBook, I'd have already ordered one.
You're still paying off your iBook... doesn't that mean anything to you? And now you want to pay too much money for something else. By the time you pay off your iBook, it will be outdated and need to be replaced, the iPod will be either revamped or dropped off their product list, and you'll be dreaming about some other Apple product that just got announced that you'll have to get a new computer to support.
Requirements
Apple computer with built-in FireWire port
Mac OS 9.2.1 (or later) or Mac OS X v10.1 (or later)
iTunes 2 software (included)
Yes it can act as a FireWire hard drive. But it's NOT A FIREWIRE HARD DRIVE. Chances are Linux and Windows won't know what it is when you plug it in, and I bet Apple never writes drivers for it, nore will they write iTunes for other OSes.
Pay attention to what Apple is doing! They're in their own little world and they don't want to talk to anyone else!
~LoudMusic
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but it has virtually no UI wizardry that might define it as an Apple product.
With your reply...
It has a six-line LCD display, backlit, a simple four-button interface, and a circular scroll wheel to navigate your songs (which can organize by CD, artist, or your own custom playlists). You call that "virtually no UI"?
Hey, how about you read what you're responding to first. They clearly stated "define it as an Apple product". He didn't say the UI sucked, he said it didn't look like Apple. That's very true, but I don't see the relevance... (: Maybe they're trying to say that Apple bought this product, not created it. I've got no problem with that. They essentially bought iTunes as well, used to be SoundJam. Tada! Instant product.
It's Apple, and Mac-heads will buy it. But they're the only ones!
From the website:
"Holds over 1000 songs"
- I've seen better for less.
"Weighs just 6.5 ounces -- fits in your pocket"
- That's neat, but not enough to be a major selling point.
"Plays up to 10 hours with 20 minute skip protection"
- What skip is it protecting against for 20 minutes? We're not talking about optical (CD) media here...
"Auto synchronize all your music with iTunes"
- Now that is kinda cool (:
"Transfer a whole CD in less than 10 seconds"
-... using FireWire? Which most Windows people don't have. Just cut your market by 85%
"Charge with the included power adapter or over FireWire"
- Interesting, actually making good use of the firewire port, which most Windows people don't have. Just cut your market by 85%
"Breakthrough UI with an innovative scroll wheel"
- ABOUT DAMN TIME! Too bad they can't put it on a friggen mouse!
"60 mWatt amp power high-fidelity sound earbude"
- Ok
"Ultra-slim 5-gigabyte hard drive doubles as FireWire disk"
- 5 gigs? Come on... I can get a 20 gb for less.
Apple is selling an overpriced, under spec`ed item to its tiny market... AGAIN. When will they learn?
You've picked up a few more points that I left out because my comment was getting to long (: I agree that RedHat did a bad thing by forcing people to use their OS, but it is the companies own product. Maybe they learned a little something through their actions, "Duh, we've got work to do here, our product is a bit incomplete." But it's more than just RedHat. Like I said, I see my friends doing the same thing. It's so irritating for me to watch them make people basically hate Linux because they can't get it to work right. Right now Linux isn't ready for the average computer user.
When AOL starts shipping a CD with a Linux client on it, then we can start forcibly installing on our families computers (:
One of the things that I like about free software is that I own the data, and when I choose to share that data with you, I don't obligate you to someone else.
Stop there, you don't have to bring Corel into the mix. If you want to make the comparison, just say to the effect, "If I use licensed software, anyone else wanting to view my work would also have to purchase the licensed software. I don't want to force a purchase on someone.", and leave it at that. Of course, if they don't know what you're talking about then you can't avoide direct examples.
I think my point is that we don't want to trash talk or even slander against major corporations like Microsoft who are doing a good thing and have the ability to crush people (: We have to keep in mind that Linux is doing a BETTER thing, without the help of many outsiders (until recent with companies like Dell and IBM).
Not many Christian geeks? I think we're just double shy (: You might want to look around, maybe even add something to your sig. You'd be surprised how many people will understand your "Christian to FreeSoftware" comparison, and you might have just found your source to witnessing (:
There's one, there is also another one that I couldn't find (the search engine kept bombing so I gave up). It was the actual "Linux Desktop Standards 1.0"... or something close. You might want to give Google a search and see what you can come up with. I'm right beside you though, there have to be better standards if it's really going to take off. Look at RPM for example, Red Hat has a good thing going, and other distributions are picking up RPMs as well.
I have to admit that about 2/3 through the article I stopped reading, because I've heard it all before, and it's all very true. If I look at my friends around me I see them doing the same thing. A couple of them have removed Windows and installed a sloppy install of Linux on their parents' computers, and a few sysadmin friends that I have have even done the same at work (resulting in nearly getting terminated).
If the Linux community as a whole would like to see Linux succeed in more than small shop servers and geek workstations, someone is going to have to spread the word that Linux can't be forced on those that don't want it.
Lets relate it to the Christian movement. What do we call Christians that won't leave us along in elevators and in lines at fast food? Turbo Christian Bible Thumbers. They irritate the crap out of me, AND I'M A CHRISTIAN! They're going about it wrong. Christ didn't bug the crap out of people about "Hey look at me, I'm the son of God, w00t!". No, he meerly lead by example. Geeks can do the same quite easily, and I've seen a few examples.
Run Linux on your computer, make it rock solid and bad ass. People will notice and want to give it a try, even if it's just surfing the web on your Linux Mozilla browser. Help them, but don't trash talk Microsoft or Apple in the processes. If they ask what you like about Linux (and they will), tell them the possitive things about Linux, but don't *compare* it to anything else. Just say what you like without trash talking something else. You might even want to point out a few of the problems it has, but mention that Linus and Alan are working on those things, *with help from the ENTIRE LINUX COMMUNITY*. Maybe that will light a bulb in their brain that shows them the difference between open source and... ahem... other operating systems that we all know have problems, but we have to sit and wait for an individual group to fix (:
And yes... Linux in its current incarnation is for the geek community. My Mom and Dad would be so pissed if I took their Windows away. Just about everyone where I work would be outraged if I took Windows/Office away and replaced it with Linux/OpenOffice. Right now it just doesn't get the job done like Windows can. Give it time, all good things come to those who wait. The geek community needs to chill for a little while and let the OS and software get up to 'desktop snuff' before we take on giants like Microsoft.
Don't go jumping the gun there big fella, we're not out of the fire yet. I don't see any finalized results, and there's no telling what they're doing that no one is talking about. Big buisness can have just as 'covert operations' as a millitary. They sure have the funds for it!
This is really cool. I'm a huge Sony fan [from Pearl Jam to Trinitron], and I was so close to talking myself into getting a TiVo. Now it'll be easy to convince myself.
Yup. Apple scored big by making the latest iBook. It's very affordable, competes with the small Dells, and has some really cool features.
You won't find Apple hardware cheaper in one place than another. Everyone sells at Apple's price, unless you're getting a discount, like educational or governmental.
Heh, *she* wants a new notebook, eh? Well it depends on how much support you want to do. If you'd like to be over at her place more often, get her the one she'll be asking more questions about (:
To quote myself, "I see how YDL could be awsome on some older G3s (the beige ones that I have laying around at work), but there really can't be much demand for Linux on the new boxen. Can there?". So yea, I agree with you on your first point.
I don't see why programmers would want to do serious programming on Apple hardware. Personally I can't stand their keyboard and mouse, and there are so many better options for hardware configuration going to x86. And it's sooo much cheaper.
There is support for Linux, but not necassarily Linux on PPC. And just how good do you think the support is? I ask because I honestly don't know. I would imagine it could be hard finding quality Linux support without hitting a few biggots first.
Ah, supporting free software and open source. AMEN BROTHA!
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"Being accomplished ate grammar and spelling ..."
Ate grammar? How did it taste? (:
~LoudMusic
If you can spare an extra couple bucks (I mean ... really ...) you might as well spring $6.99 and get the "Total Annihilation: Commander Pack". It's a four CD set with a statagy guide. I bought six copies for my friends.
~LoudMusic
"Proper spelling and good grammar is one ..."
..."
"Proper spelling and good grammar are two
They are seperate entities.
~LoudMusic
Unreal Tournament is still turning a profit. I've seen it for $35 in stores this month. I just bought six copies of TA:CC for $7 a piece, which I imagine was about the manufacturing cost for the box set. And the company that owns TA is no longer in business. I guess you could compare this to the "Free BeOS" petition. The company that owns it isn't around anymore, it's a really great product, and if you wanted to purchase it, it would be difficult. So we ask the owner to give it to us.
~LoudMusic
Is my math way off, or wouldn't that be 2,000 RPM for similar lift?
~LoudMusic
I admit, this is offtopic, but while I'm thinking about it ...
Ok, Voyager (as in NASA's probe) was brought up (ok it was the focus) in one of the ST movies, but planet launched space probes from other species aren't really ever talked about in StarTrek. Why was warp drive the deciding factor for first contact? Why not "hey they shot a probe hundreds of millions of light years away from their planet, and they're still gathering information from it!"?
I mean, what if Voyager sends us back a picture of something living on another planet? "Hello, we know you're there and we're coming after you." Seems like a good reason to go talk to the people responsible for the craft.
~LoudMusic
The biggest reason it's going offline is the DoS attacks that it's had to endure. I agree that they can't go on the way they've been, but going offline may not be the right answer either. I'm sure the server will continue running in some dark room where only the sys admins know about it, and only 'special' people get access to it.
But the point is, punk-ass imature little brats have ruined something that we all love. When a group of people vandalize buildings to the point they can't be used, the building gets torn down. It's pretty much the same thing. And it sucks that the villian doesn't pay for that either.
~LoudMusic
Most grow up at some point and stop
... they get older, they get more money, and they do more damage. It really is sad that punk kids have destroyed 'digital heritage'. I never used EFNet much (mostly an Undernet guy myself), but we always hear about how cool and great it is. It's a shame that the oldest running server is going away. It's like someone destroying an American icon or something. Oh shit, someone did that recently too ...
Unfortunately that leaves some that don't
~LoudMusic
I work for an advertising and marketing firm in central Arkansas. Let me tell you, it's scary when the account execs (sales people) and creatives get together and start scheming up new ways to bludgen the public with marketing slogans. The worst are when they come to me asking for technical advice. On several occations I've told them the best thing to do is leave 'technology' out, because they'd only screw it up. They don't listen, and they screw up, nearly every time. This Shoshkeles thing is a prefect example. It COULD have been cool, but instead it's annoying and people are going to bitch and moan. Then it's going to go away.
All we need is a simple link at the bottom of the page that says "Lots of neat stuff". And when you click the link, you _actually_ get a page with lots of neat stuff. That would be freaking amazing! (:
~LoudMusic
We have Tiny Apps ... OpenBeOS ... and the iPod. Are you thinking what I'm thinking? Heh heh ...
~LoudMusic
-- and I was doing so good with my karma too --
Alright, how many of these people are the type that want a portable Mp3 device? Maybe half. We have 35+ Macs that would support the iPod where I work. Of the "Mac users" that use them, only one or two would even think of buying a portable Mp3 player, and they'd probably get something more "universal". And they didn't have to buy the expensive Mac in the first place!!
~LoudMusic
So you're willing to make payments on something that is essentially treated as a toy? Granted you might to a little work on it, but nearly 90% of the time you spend using it, it's a fancy toy, right?
Might just be the way I was raised. I can't stand doing that. If there's something I want, just because I want it, I save until I can afford it. That way I've payed the least amount for it (brand new) and I can stop thinking about it. I get to just enjoy it. When you make payments you end up spending more than the list price, usually a lot. Also by waiting, the price comes down, and new revisions come out.
Just my view on 'stuff'. I do, however, think that the latest iBooks have been Apple's "best bang for the buck" product ever. If you're gonna have an Apple, this iBook is the way to go.
~LoudMusic
I'm probably going to wait for apple to upgrade these a little, or to drop the price to $350 or $300, but I'm definitely going to buy one as soon as it's practicle. If i wasn't still paying off my iBook, I'd have already ordered one.
... doesn't that mean anything to you? And now you want to pay too much money for something else. By the time you pay off your iBook, it will be outdated and need to be replaced, the iPod will be either revamped or dropped off their product list, and you'll be dreaming about some other Apple product that just got announced that you'll have to get a new computer to support.
You're still paying off your iBook
~LoudMusic
Requirements
Apple computer with built-in FireWire port
Mac OS 9.2.1 (or later) or Mac OS X v10.1 (or later)
iTunes 2 software (included)
Yes it can act as a FireWire hard drive. But it's NOT A FIREWIRE HARD DRIVE. Chances are Linux and Windows won't know what it is when you plug it in, and I bet Apple never writes drivers for it, nore will they write iTunes for other OSes.
Pay attention to what Apple is doing! They're in their own little world and they don't want to talk to anyone else!
~LoudMusic
With your reply
It has a six-line LCD display, backlit, a simple four-button interface, and a circular scroll wheel to navigate your songs (which can organize by CD, artist, or your own custom playlists). You call that "virtually no UI"?
Hey, how about you read what you're responding to first. They clearly stated "define it as an Apple product". He didn't say the UI sucked, he said it didn't look like Apple. That's very true, but I don't see the relevance
~LoudMusic
Raise your hand if you have iTunes ...
...
...
...
Raise your hand if you have a FireWire port
Raise your hand if you have both
Raise your hand if you have $400 to spend on a cute Apple device
There is Apple's market. Pretty slim, eh? I don't see many sales in the future of iPod.
~LoudMusic
It's Apple, and Mac-heads will buy it. But they're the only ones!
...
... using FireWire? Which most Windows people don't have. Just cut your market by 85%
... I can get a 20 gb for less.
... AGAIN. When will they learn?
From the website:
"Holds over 1000 songs"
- I've seen better for less.
"Weighs just 6.5 ounces -- fits in your pocket"
- That's neat, but not enough to be a major selling point.
"Plays up to 10 hours with 20 minute skip protection"
- What skip is it protecting against for 20 minutes? We're not talking about optical (CD) media here
"Auto synchronize all your music with iTunes"
- Now that is kinda cool (:
"Transfer a whole CD in less than 10 seconds"
-
"Charge with the included power adapter or over FireWire"
- Interesting, actually making good use of the firewire port, which most Windows people don't have. Just cut your market by 85%
"Breakthrough UI with an innovative scroll wheel"
- ABOUT DAMN TIME! Too bad they can't put it on a friggen mouse!
"60 mWatt amp power high-fidelity sound earbude"
- Ok
"Ultra-slim 5-gigabyte hard drive doubles as FireWire disk"
- 5 gigs? Come on
Apple is selling an overpriced, under spec`ed item to its tiny market
~Loudmusic
Dude, I can't believe you got modded down ...
You've picked up a few more points that I left out because my comment was getting to long (: I agree that RedHat did a bad thing by forcing people to use their OS, but it is the companies own product. Maybe they learned a little something through their actions, "Duh, we've got work to do here, our product is a bit incomplete." But it's more than just RedHat. Like I said, I see my friends doing the same thing. It's so irritating for me to watch them make people basically hate Linux because they can't get it to work right. Right now Linux isn't ready for the average computer user.
When AOL starts shipping a CD with a Linux client on it, then we can start forcibly installing on our families computers (:
~LoudMusic
One of the things that I like about free software is that I own the data, and when I choose to share that data with you, I don't obligate you to someone else.
Stop there, you don't have to bring Corel into the mix. If you want to make the comparison, just say to the effect, "If I use licensed software, anyone else wanting to view my work would also have to purchase the licensed software. I don't want to force a purchase on someone.", and leave it at that. Of course, if they don't know what you're talking about then you can't avoide direct examples.
I think my point is that we don't want to trash talk or even slander against major corporations like Microsoft who are doing a good thing and have the ability to crush people (: We have to keep in mind that Linux is doing a BETTER thing, without the help of many outsiders (until recent with companies like Dell and IBM).
Not many Christian geeks? I think we're just double shy (: You might want to look around, maybe even add something to your sig. You'd be surprised how many people will understand your "Christian to FreeSoftware" comparison, and you might have just found your source to witnessing (:
(man I use a lot of smilies ...)
~LoudMusic
The Linux Development Platform Specification : Beta
There's one, there is also another one that I couldn't find (the search engine kept bombing so I gave up). It was the actual "Linux Desktop Standards 1.0"
~LoudMusic
I have to admit that about 2/3 through the article I stopped reading, because I've heard it all before, and it's all very true. If I look at my friends around me I see them doing the same thing. A couple of them have removed Windows and installed a sloppy install of Linux on their parents' computers, and a few sysadmin friends that I have have even done the same at work (resulting in nearly getting terminated).
... ahem ... other operating systems that we all know have problems, but we have to sit and wait for an individual group to fix (:
... Linux in its current incarnation is for the geek community. My Mom and Dad would be so pissed if I took their Windows away. Just about everyone where I work would be outraged if I took Windows/Office away and replaced it with Linux/OpenOffice. Right now it just doesn't get the job done like Windows can. Give it time, all good things come to those who wait. The geek community needs to chill for a little while and let the OS and software get up to 'desktop snuff' before we take on giants like Microsoft.
If the Linux community as a whole would like to see Linux succeed in more than small shop servers and geek workstations, someone is going to have to spread the word that Linux can't be forced on those that don't want it.
Lets relate it to the Christian movement. What do we call Christians that won't leave us along in elevators and in lines at fast food? Turbo Christian Bible Thumbers. They irritate the crap out of me, AND I'M A CHRISTIAN! They're going about it wrong. Christ didn't bug the crap out of people about "Hey look at me, I'm the son of God, w00t!". No, he meerly lead by example. Geeks can do the same quite easily, and I've seen a few examples.
Run Linux on your computer, make it rock solid and bad ass. People will notice and want to give it a try, even if it's just surfing the web on your Linux Mozilla browser. Help them, but don't trash talk Microsoft or Apple in the processes. If they ask what you like about Linux (and they will), tell them the possitive things about Linux, but don't *compare* it to anything else. Just say what you like without trash talking something else. You might even want to point out a few of the problems it has, but mention that Linus and Alan are working on those things, *with help from the ENTIRE LINUX COMMUNITY*. Maybe that will light a bulb in their brain that shows them the difference between open source and
And yes
~LoudMusic
Don't go jumping the gun there big fella, we're not out of the fire yet. I don't see any finalized results, and there's no telling what they're doing that no one is talking about. Big buisness can have just as 'covert operations' as a millitary. They sure have the funds for it!
~LoudMusic
This is really cool. I'm a huge Sony fan [from Pearl Jam to Trinitron], and I was so close to talking myself into getting a TiVo. Now it'll be easy to convince myself.
~LoudMusic
Yup. Apple scored big by making the latest iBook. It's very affordable, competes with the small Dells, and has some really cool features.
You won't find Apple hardware cheaper in one place than another. Everyone sells at Apple's price, unless you're getting a discount, like educational or governmental.
Heh, *she* wants a new notebook, eh? Well it depends on how much support you want to do. If you'd like to be over at her place more often, get her the one she'll be asking more questions about (:
~LoudMusic
I don't see why programmers would want to do serious programming on Apple hardware. Personally I can't stand their keyboard and mouse, and there are so many better options for hardware configuration going to x86. And it's sooo much cheaper.
There is support for Linux, but not necassarily Linux on PPC. And just how good do you think the support is? I ask because I honestly don't know. I would imagine it could be hard finding quality Linux support without hitting a few biggots first.
Ah, supporting free software and open source. AMEN BROTHA!
~LoudMusic