The most recurring theme in reading responses to this article so far is: "I hate what they're doing, but it's not doing any harm to anyone else, so let's let them do it." What would you do if you discovered a virtual child pornography artist was modeling his children off your son, or daughter? What would you do if you knew that your neighbor fantasized about your children, creating pictures and virtual models of them in situations such as rape and molestation, masturbated to these images, and then distributed them throughout the Internet for anyone, anywhere across the world to use?
You'd better be damned sure that if I ever discovered someone doing the types of things I mentioned above to my children, I'd go directly to the law. As a society, we have (over time) developed majority opinions on a number of issues regarding sexuality and what is right or wrong. I would truly hope that America is still a county that considers child molestation, abuse, and rape a crime. These are children we're talking about, who have no power of choice, who don't even understand sex, much less anything on the level of molestation or rape. Why in the world do we support these type of materials finding there way into a public, unregulated forum such as the web, where our own children at school, the library or home can discover them?
I'll be the first one to say that what a person does alone, in his own home, is completely his business and no-one elses. Many of the things disgust me, but freedom of choice is our most treasured freedom, and everything should be done to preserve that freedom, as long as an individual's choices do not infringe upon another individuals rights. When you factor in the Internet, however, it's a completely different situation. If you found someone distributing leaflets around town of virtual versions of your child, in situations such as rape and molestation, would you really be ok with that? Such a situation is a near mirror of what is being done through the web today.
As a whole, the web has done a number of amazing things for us so far, but we need to start being more conscious of how powerful tool it really is, for both good and bad.
Ah, such words of poetry, not to mention maturity. The point of my comment wasn't who did the polling, but/how/ it's done. Then again, I'm sure you figured that out all on your own, eh? Next time you have to release some type of teenage-esque angst, try to make it somewhat reflective of intelligence instead of ignorance and petty inmaturity.
There is no Nader Effect. Gore's in the position he's in because he's run a horrible campaign, and dropped the ball at just about every opportunity along the way. He's refused to listen to the evolving left (especially the 18-35's) and the issues that are close to their hearts. Those issues really aren't that far away from Gore's platform. With a little compromise, he could have won the confidence of Nader's supporters. Compromise, however, isn't Gore's strong suit. It's his way or the highway (just read the stories from Gore camp staffers who had to work with the guy) when it comes to policy, and his uppity arrogance has cost him this election.
For once and for all, let's put the blame where it belongs on this 'Nader Effect' issue - on Gore's shoulders. Power to the Green Party, and kudos to Nader voters who refused to be weak and fold their morals to those Gore supporters who refused to take a stand against a leader whose policies are strongly lacking.
Have you ever stopped to review what an exit vote really is? Take CNN's exit votes, for example. They get a bunch of employees together, throw them in a few vans, and then send them to what CNN determines to be the most important poll sites. As voters leave the polls, CNN asks them to share their vote. Think about this for a minute. Hundreds of thousands of people at the major polling sites, voting at all times of the day. Some states have certain laws, that restrict any and all media members from coming within a certain range of their polling sites. Limited access. CNN can only employee so many people, severely limiting the numbers of voters they can reach who are even willing to share their vote in the first place.
Given the number of unknowns in the short example above (we could go on forever with more examples), it still astounds me how the American public can be so easily lured into 'ratings bait' by the major media networks out there. The 'exit vote' was popularized by modern, mass media, to simply get you to do what you've been doing for the last 12 hours: stay glued to the TV/Net, watching the 'smart guys' guess at who's going to be the next President, so they can run ads past your eyes. If they were simply relaying official, closed and verified vote counts, it'd be boring and we'd all be off doing somethin else.
Volatility in the exit vote is inherent in the system. If you're looking for something to base electoral fraud on, looks elsewhere. Otherwise, you're just grasping at straws.
All the little hacker kids out there really need to open their eyes to what myCIO has done with their implementation of p2p. Though Rumor supports the same acronym as Napster, they're very different.
First off, application/enterprise p2p is Intra-p2p, not extra. That means that all p2p file sharing is done inside your network, behind your firewall. Additionally, as/stated in the article/, Rumor uses token level authentication. As a network admin, Rumor's implications on a pure technology level intruiges me. No longer do I have to manage 450 desktops which each must go out onto the Internet to grab antivirus dat files. Instead, I spend a significantly smaller amount of time managing one SINGLE access point. Much more secure/efficient, and it gives me more time for Quake.;)
And Kudos to myCIO for developing Rumor as an application indepedent technology. From perusing their website, they offer everything from at-the-gateway virus scanning, desktop virus scanning, VPN, firewall... One can only hope that they can integrate all these services into a single p2p platform. What I'd give to manage all my security measures from a single access point and control console.
And to anyone who mention sharing of executables... go back to a refresher CS course. ZDNet's right. Implemented correctly, Intra-p2p could possibly be the wave of the future.
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The most recurring theme in reading responses to this article so far is: "I hate what they're doing, but it's not doing any harm to anyone else, so let's let them do it." What would you do if you discovered a virtual child pornography artist was modeling his children off your son, or daughter? What would you do if you knew that your neighbor fantasized about your children, creating pictures and virtual models of them in situations such as rape and molestation, masturbated to these images, and then distributed them throughout the Internet for anyone, anywhere across the world to use?
You'd better be damned sure that if I ever discovered someone doing the types of things I mentioned above to my children, I'd go directly to the law. As a society, we have (over time) developed majority opinions on a number of issues regarding sexuality and what is right or wrong. I would truly hope that America is still a county that considers child molestation, abuse, and rape a crime. These are children we're talking about, who have no power of choice, who don't even understand sex, much less anything on the level of molestation or rape. Why in the world do we support these type of materials finding there way into a public, unregulated forum such as the web, where our own children at school, the library or home can discover them?
I'll be the first one to say that what a person does alone, in his own home, is completely his business and no-one elses. Many of the things disgust me, but freedom of choice is our most treasured freedom, and everything should be done to preserve that freedom, as long as an individual's choices do not infringe upon another individuals rights. When you factor in the Internet, however, it's a completely different situation. If you found someone distributing leaflets around town of virtual versions of your child, in situations such as rape and molestation, would you really be ok with that? Such a situation is a near mirror of what is being done through the web today.
As a whole, the web has done a number of amazing things for us so far, but we need to start being more conscious of how powerful tool it really is, for both good and bad.
Ah, such words of poetry, not to mention maturity. The point of my comment wasn't who did the polling, but /how/ it's done. Then again, I'm sure you figured that out all on your own, eh? Next time you have to release some type of teenage-esque angst, try to make it somewhat reflective of intelligence instead of ignorance and petty inmaturity.
nerpdawg: I don't know where you're getting your numbers, but:
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Bush has been ahead for a while now. My biggest question is, how did crap like this get mod'd up to 5???
*grumble* *grumble* *grumble*
There is no Nader Effect. Gore's in the position he's in because he's run a horrible campaign, and dropped the ball at just about every opportunity along the way. He's refused to listen to the evolving left (especially the 18-35's) and the issues that are close to their hearts. Those issues really aren't that far away from Gore's platform. With a little compromise, he could have won the confidence of Nader's supporters. Compromise, however, isn't Gore's strong suit. It's his way or the highway (just read the stories from Gore camp staffers who had to work with the guy) when it comes to policy, and his uppity arrogance has cost him this election.
For once and for all, let's put the blame where it belongs on this 'Nader Effect' issue - on Gore's shoulders. Power to the Green Party, and kudos to Nader voters who refused to be weak and fold their morals to those Gore supporters who refused to take a stand against a leader whose policies are strongly lacking.
Conspiracy Theorists: Give It Up Already!!!
Have you ever stopped to review what an exit vote really is? Take CNN's exit votes, for example. They get a bunch of employees together, throw them in a few vans, and then send them to what CNN determines to be the most important poll sites. As voters leave the polls, CNN asks them to share their vote. Think about this for a minute. Hundreds of thousands of people at the major polling sites, voting at all times of the day. Some states have certain laws, that restrict any and all media members from coming within a certain range of their polling sites. Limited access. CNN can only employee so many people, severely limiting the numbers of voters they can reach who are even willing to share their vote in the first place.
Given the number of unknowns in the short example above (we could go on forever with more examples), it still astounds me how the American public can be so easily lured into 'ratings bait' by the major media networks out there. The 'exit vote' was popularized by modern, mass media, to simply get you to do what you've been doing for the last 12 hours: stay glued to the TV/Net, watching the 'smart guys' guess at who's going to be the next President, so they can run ads past your eyes. If they were simply relaying official, closed and verified vote counts, it'd be boring and we'd all be off doing somethin else.
Volatility in the exit vote is inherent in the system. If you're looking for something to base electoral fraud on, looks elsewhere. Otherwise, you're just grasping at straws.
Crowbar! Crowbar! Crowbar!
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Instead of using my chaingun on you, Chuck, I think I'll just p2p a crowbar to your machine.
All the little hacker kids out there really need to open their eyes to what myCIO has done with their implementation of p2p. Though Rumor supports the same acronym as Napster, they're very different.
/stated in the article/, Rumor uses token level authentication. As a network admin, Rumor's implications on a pure technology level intruiges me. No longer do I have to manage 450 desktops which each must go out onto the Internet to grab antivirus dat files. Instead, I spend a significantly smaller amount of time managing one SINGLE access point. Much more secure/efficient, and it gives me more time for Quake. ;)
First off, application/enterprise p2p is Intra-p2p, not extra. That means that all p2p file sharing is done inside your network, behind your firewall. Additionally, as
And Kudos to myCIO for developing Rumor as an application indepedent technology. From perusing their website, they offer everything from at-the-gateway virus scanning, desktop virus scanning, VPN, firewall... One can only hope that they can integrate all these services into a single p2p platform. What I'd give to manage all my security measures from a single access point and control console.
And to anyone who mention sharing of executables... go back to a refresher CS course. ZDNet's right. Implemented correctly, Intra-p2p could possibly be the wave of the future.