While I can say the same, flash on linux is not as good s some people want it... For example it bugs me that sometimes it gets stuck for half a second or so. It's no wonder that some people labels it as unaccceptable.
You cannot compare the time between linux kernel releases and the time between windows releases.... Vendors wouldn't hate ABI breakage every 5 years...
You can even uninstall the 'popularity-contest' package... Now I have no idea how apple manages this feature but I bet in Windows SmartScreen will take the shape of a system service that could be disabled and (maybe) even uninstalled. On the other hand, that driver signing thingy wasn't a service so don't hold your breath. Haven't really used any of them at home in a long time.
Great Grandparent, please pass me some popcorn.
But how many people would complain about switching to micro-USB with or without the adapters (obviously they'd still complain if they don't provide the adapters). How much a better place this world would be?
Even the Ten Commandments are good proof that the Bible and Christianity promotes moral standards based on love and forgiveness. The expression "turn the other cheek" comes directly from the Bible On a side note, for as long as the Bible has existed, there have been people and people taking ideas, themes and quotes from it and manipulated them in twisted ways.People engaged in holy wars, pretending to be good Christians. The example we have here, with the Gates Foundation, puts everyone on one side of the fence or another (pun turned out to be premeditated), by showing a good example of moral conduct while defending such a tricky topic in religion as contraception. And extremists are to go from defending exemplary Samaritans to blaming them of encouraging infanticide. Take your pick.
Actually this stuff is turning an android device into a keyboard/touchpad FOR ANOTHER ANDROID device... Also, for Linux and Windows. This is the client/server stuff we've seen since ever, it doesn't involve using native support for USB or Bluetooth peripherals, which would be the real achievement. It''s still cool because it works over the internet, but that's about it.
As an analogy Windows Vista emulates previous versions of Windows, for compatibility sake, right? Just because it offers compatible interface to the piece of software it doesn't make it an emulator. It's not a specially crafted environment that imitates the original environment in a way that makes them indistinguishable. First because it doesn't offer the entire API set(like drivers support) and second because it also offers some access to the underlying platform.
The... what now? Visio? Log to work from home using remote client? Are you upset Kazaa isn't working on Linux?
If it''s fun to experiment then let me give you a homework: please set your current date closer to the XXI-st century.
My work at home isn't supported yet I'm doing it. My games aren't supported (actually many of them are) yet I'm playing them. My family isn't supported(/-tive?) yet they use it again and again. Random-stranger-shows-up-to-my-door-to-use-a-computer isn't really supported (or even pleasant) yet he leaves with the problem solved. Whether it's trivial or complex, it's most likely Linux doesn't have it like people like you want it. Should we just give up to what we want to use what we are given/sold?
Now that was funny. Did you know that Duke Nukem Forever actually launched? Remember the days when it was alleged to launch... for 10 years? Can''t wait to see everyone''s surprise when (you may even s/when/if/g) Valve launches products for Linux. Not because it will be awful, but because waiting for a wish to come true makes many of us 'over-expecting'. A better example of support for Linux nowadays comes from random indie studios... and take a look at what Desura is doing.
Platform fragmentation that keeps developers and publishers away, tons of UI/UX rough edges, very powerful customization that is never backed by some serious graphical utility just configuration files so that newcomers can get scarred of screwing up (or screwing up again and again), cool technologies and flashy features that changes the environment every Thursday or so, being pushed before stabilizing core software, plethora the apps each written in a dozen programming languages, widget set, frameworks, dozens of libraries to parse command-line parameters or whatnot, lack of proper contingencies when screwing up (especially when dealing with xorg)
I still love the platform even if it's all over the place. Linux isn't popular because one of it's strengths, diversity, is being prioritized more than anything. Many people can't see that scratching an itch in three different places has no chance of 100% effectiveness.
Yeah, it's like last week old. Bah obsolete... Instead of just reinventing the lower half of the wheel, we should also reinvent the axle. I mean, what could be more important for the community than this? I don't think there's anything with bigger priority than being modern, sleek and trendy. Everyone else's doing it so we should bet our money and time in it, right? Right?... Guys?
Isn't it... HTML5, HTML5 or HTML5 right there? That covers... phones and tablets. Oh, and webapps and soon (hint: Google Chrome OS, Metro) desktop apps. Surprise, surprise:) HTML5. I think it won''t be painfully difficult to penetrate the market, even if they don't start with a 'native' ecosystem.
Not really fond of how they chose to sort the icons/options and how you can't find the one tool in the group you actually want to use (and then how adding it to the tab makes it look messy). But I gotta give them credit for contextual tabs such as table and picture tools. I would add a tab that lets me see in one place the most common tools I use and allows me to pin them. Also the most useful tool on the ribbon really is hiding it.
Got around 200 or so programs that I actually use fairly regularly.... I'm not kidding. I would not survive without the search bar. Same goes for KDE4 kicker menu and GNOME Do. They could throw navigating menus away if it weren't for the usual "I'll know what it is when I see it" hunting/searching for apps.
Wait, do you mean Americans are poor and can't afford more fiber? You have poor internet that doesn't compare with some 'crappy' country somewhere near the North Pole? Why do you whine about poor infrastructure and still sound like you're better than anyone else?
I read your comment and another one a little above and I must say i'm impressed. If you don't get why please read your comment again.
Linux doesn't offer a way to keep using the same binaries between releases
Sure it does. That's all automated now and has been for awhile. Hardware vendors don't have to be concerned about it beyond making sure they properly install stuff to use current features of Linux.
If they don't, someone else can. That's one way that different distributions can distinguish themselves. They can take up the slack in terms of integration work. They fill the role that Apple is reputed to for it's platforms.
Even automated, they must build against releases. And if they don't and they don't release the code nobody else can do it. Everyone can take the binaries after that and package them furiously for all the distross, even with custom patches to the kernel (well... most patches),
Linux doesn't have a way to keep the binaries between linux releases.
So the drivers in the PPA are built by nVidia themselves and packaged for ubuntu by someone in the community. The issue here is with the quality of the work done before nVidia releases the binaries.
Point 1. PPAs are not official nVidia's work, nor Canonical's, it's somebody that takes the binaries, installs them, gives them short test drive and then packs them in a.deb archive and uploads them to a PPA. Running Linux on so many computers means nothing if you never go to the trouble of installing from nVidia's source.
Point 2: And because some other people consider you a second-class Linux user and I actually answer to your ignorance I'm better than them? Linux is no longer a second class citizen. Not since Ubuntu and Android became popular. The main problem is that Linux doesn't offer a way to keep using the same binaries between releases (so you have to rebuild them every release) that it's annoying and hard for hardware vendors... But that shouldn't be an excuse for a company that makes a lot of money to stay out of sync with something that is open to collaboration.
Pass 3: Someone using Linux that is not interested in graphics still have to go out of the way to install drivers when kernel support is insufficient. I use a range of cards and ATI are actually the less painful in features vs. accessibility.
Well personally I didn't enjoy the lot of scifi series that ended abruptly and had to be completed with a movie... Never mind that before that they were pushed aside, using some obscure measuring of popularity and priorities. With the exception of Serenity, I hated all those movies for their scripts.
I don't know about problems with X windowing system, but I bet some of them will stick with Wayland even though it's supposed to be new stuff.Still I really hope I'll never have to dig trenches just to get it back running, or at least running it in some kind of fallback/safe/minimal mode.This is my only hope concerning vaporware and (may I add) pink unicorn glittering p(h)ony features Even though my sarcasm didn't climb this tree of comments, I'm happy I got to read a comment to he point. Thank you.
Coordinating with other engines? Isn't that the kind of thing that lets one use Wayland partially as a standalone server side to side to X? Is this the 'feature' of stepping down and letting other servers or engines develop?
Maybe we'll evolve this way past the Xorg.conf and its documentation, good riddance, moving from a wrinkled legacy to a more sane and friendly approach. I love X when it works, it's unbearable when it doesn't.
Ok, so how should we refer to the economic system of countries under 'traditional' communist governments? What makes such system (un)successful? Can you really compare the social response of people to the failure of one economical system based on political context? If you can tell apples are sweeter than lemons based on their color, tell me why comparing two types of licences that promote freedom with one of them requiring equality of freedom as analogy to the communist ideology in economic systems versus capitalist approach is such a nuisance to you, just enough to miss the joke? We got it, your system is better 'cause the other one lost.. Mind you, I'm not holding my breath over your prediction about China. It was on the map longer than any of us.
But it doesn't stop at $100 million in revenue. Not even 10 times that much. And some innovators can't afford to pay so you rob potential from development. It's only fair to get your money off your investment, but please stop at some point and get another cow to milk.
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While I can say the same, flash on linux is not as good s some people want it... For example it bugs me that sometimes it gets stuck for half a second or so. It's no wonder that some people labels it as unaccceptable.
You cannot compare the time between linux kernel releases and the time between windows releases.... Vendors wouldn't hate ABI breakage every 5 years...
You can even uninstall the 'popularity-contest' package... Now I have no idea how apple manages this feature but I bet in Windows SmartScreen will take the shape of a system service that could be disabled and (maybe) even uninstalled. On the other hand, that driver signing thingy wasn't a service so don't hold your breath. Haven't really used any of them at home in a long time. Great Grandparent, please pass me some popcorn.
But how many people would complain about switching to micro-USB with or without the adapters (obviously they'd still complain if they don't provide the adapters).
How much a better place this world would be?
Even the Ten Commandments are good proof that the Bible and Christianity promotes moral standards based on love and forgiveness. The expression "turn the other cheek" comes directly from the Bible
On a side note, for as long as the Bible has existed, there have been people and people taking ideas, themes and quotes from it and manipulated them in twisted ways.People engaged in holy wars, pretending to be good Christians.
The example we have here, with the Gates Foundation, puts everyone on one side of the fence or another (pun turned out to be premeditated), by showing a good example of moral conduct while defending such a tricky topic in religion as contraception. And extremists are to go from defending exemplary Samaritans to blaming them of encouraging infanticide. Take your pick.
Actually this stuff is turning an android device into a keyboard/touchpad FOR ANOTHER ANDROID device... Also, for Linux and Windows. This is the client/server stuff we've seen since ever, it doesn't involve using native support for USB or Bluetooth peripherals, which would be the real achievement. It''s still cool because it works over the internet, but that's about it.
As an analogy Windows Vista emulates previous versions of Windows, for compatibility sake, right?
Just because it offers compatible interface to the piece of software it doesn't make it an emulator. It's not a specially crafted environment that imitates the original environment in a way that makes them indistinguishable. First because it doesn't offer the entire API set(like drivers support) and second because it also offers some access to the underlying platform.
The... what now? Visio? Log to work from home using remote client? Are you upset Kazaa isn't working on Linux?
If it''s fun to experiment then let me give you a homework: please set your current date closer to the XXI-st century.
My work at home isn't supported yet I'm doing it. My games aren't supported (actually many of them are) yet I'm playing them. My family isn't supported(/-tive?) yet they use it again and again. Random-stranger-shows-up-to-my-door-to-use-a-computer isn't really supported (or even pleasant) yet he leaves with the problem solved. Whether it's trivial or complex, it's most likely Linux doesn't have it like people like you want it. Should we just give up to what we want to use what we are given/sold?
Now that was funny.
Did you know that Duke Nukem Forever actually launched? Remember the days when it was alleged to launch... for 10 years?
Can''t wait to see everyone''s surprise when (you may even s/when/if/g) Valve launches products for Linux. Not because it will be awful, but because waiting for a wish to come true makes many of us 'over-expecting'.
A better example of support for Linux nowadays comes from random indie studios... and take a look at what Desura is doing.
Platform fragmentation that keeps developers and publishers away, tons of UI/UX rough edges, very powerful customization that is never backed by some serious graphical utility just configuration files so that newcomers can get scarred of screwing up (or screwing up again and again), cool technologies and flashy features that changes the environment every Thursday or so, being pushed before stabilizing core software, plethora the apps each written in a dozen programming languages, widget set, frameworks, dozens of libraries to parse command-line parameters or whatnot, lack of proper contingencies when screwing up (especially when dealing with xorg)
I still love the platform even if it's all over the place. Linux isn't popular because one of it's strengths, diversity, is being prioritized more than anything. Many people can't see that scratching an itch in three different places has no chance of 100% effectiveness.
You mean WARP TIGER, WARP SEA LION or TURBO JAGUAR... People will really be engaged with the experience
Yeah, it's like last week old. Bah obsolete... Instead of just reinventing the lower half of the wheel, we should also reinvent the axle. I mean, what could be more important for the community than this? I don't think there's anything with bigger priority than being modern, sleek and trendy. Everyone else's doing it so we should bet our money and time in it, right? Right? ... Guys?
Isn't it... HTML5, HTML5 or HTML5 right there? That covers... phones and tablets. Oh, and webapps and soon (hint: Google Chrome OS, Metro) desktop apps. Surprise, surprise :) HTML5. I think it won''t be painfully difficult to penetrate the market, even if they don't start with a 'native' ecosystem.
Not really fond of how they chose to sort the icons/options and how you can't find the one tool in the group you actually want to use (and then how adding it to the tab makes it look messy). But I gotta give them credit for contextual tabs such as table and picture tools. I would add a tab that lets me see in one place the most common tools I use and allows me to pin them.
Also the most useful tool on the ribbon really is hiding it.
Got around 200 or so programs that I actually use fairly regularly.... I'm not kidding. I would not survive without the search bar. Same goes for KDE4 kicker menu and GNOME Do. They could throw navigating menus away if it weren't for the usual "I'll know what it is when I see it" hunting/searching for apps.
Wait, do you mean Americans are poor and can't afford more fiber? You have poor internet that doesn't compare with some 'crappy' country somewhere near the North Pole? Why do you whine about poor infrastructure and still sound like you're better than anyone else?
I read your comment and another one a little above and I must say i'm impressed. If you don't get why please read your comment again.
Linux doesn't offer a way to keep using the same binaries between releases
Sure it does. That's all automated now and has been for awhile. Hardware vendors don't have to be concerned about it beyond making sure they properly install stuff to use current features of Linux.
If they don't, someone else can. That's one way that different distributions can distinguish themselves. They can take up the slack in terms of integration work. They fill the role that Apple is reputed to for it's platforms.
Even automated, they must build against releases. And if they don't and they don't release the code nobody else can do it. Everyone can take the binaries after that and package them furiously for all the distross, even with custom patches to the kernel (well... most patches),
Linux doesn't have a way to keep the binaries between linux releases.
So the drivers in the PPA are built by nVidia themselves and packaged for ubuntu by someone in the community. The issue here is with the quality of the work done before nVidia releases the binaries.
Point 1. PPAs are not official nVidia's work, nor Canonical's, it's somebody that takes the binaries, installs them, gives them short test drive and then packs them in a .deb archive and uploads them to a PPA. Running Linux on so many computers means nothing if you never go to the trouble of installing from nVidia's source.
Point 2: And because some other people consider you a second-class Linux user and I actually answer to your ignorance I'm better than them? Linux is no longer a second class citizen. Not since Ubuntu and Android became popular. The main problem is that Linux doesn't offer a way to keep using the same binaries between releases (so you have to rebuild them every release) that it's annoying and hard for hardware vendors... But that shouldn't be an excuse for a company that makes a lot of money to stay out of sync with something that is open to collaboration.
Pass 3: Someone using Linux that is not interested in graphics still have to go out of the way to install drivers when kernel support is insufficient. I use a range of cards and ATI are actually the less painful in features vs. accessibility.
Well duh, Linux users are not like their clients, right? They should be using the supported platform, why choose?
Well personally I didn't enjoy the lot of scifi series that ended abruptly and had to be completed with a movie... Never mind that before that they were pushed aside, using some obscure measuring of popularity and priorities. With the exception of Serenity, I hated all those movies for their scripts.
I don't know about problems with X windowing system, but I bet some of them will stick with Wayland even though it's supposed to be new stuff.Still I really hope I'll never have to dig trenches just to get it back running, or at least running it in some kind of fallback/safe/minimal mode.This is my only hope concerning vaporware and (may I add) pink unicorn glittering p(h)ony features
Even though my sarcasm didn't climb this tree of comments, I'm happy I got to read a comment to he point. Thank you.
Coordinating with other engines? Isn't that the kind of thing that lets one use Wayland partially as a standalone server side to side to X? Is this the 'feature' of stepping down and letting other servers or engines develop?
Maybe we'll evolve this way past the Xorg.conf and its documentation, good riddance, moving from a wrinkled legacy to a more sane and friendly approach. I love X when it works, it's unbearable when it doesn't.
Ok, so how should we refer to the economic system of countries under 'traditional' communist governments? What makes such system (un)successful? Can you really compare the social response of people to the failure of one economical system based on political context? If you can tell apples are sweeter than lemons based on their color, tell me why comparing two types of licences that promote freedom with one of them requiring equality of freedom as analogy to the communist ideology in economic systems versus capitalist approach is such a nuisance to you, just enough to miss the joke?
We got it, your system is better 'cause the other one lost.. Mind you, I'm not holding my breath over your prediction about China. It was on the map longer than any of us.
Dammit, I'm begging you to mod this up! Do it for the tears in my eyes as I struggle to type this laughing out loud...
But it doesn't stop at $100 million in revenue. Not even 10 times that much. And some innovators can't afford to pay so you rob potential from development. It's only fair to get your money off your investment, but please stop at some point and get another cow to milk.