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Being able to replicate anything you want at any time you want makes money irrelevant
Except that you can't replicate everything. Star Trek never addressed the ownership of real estate in the Federation beyond saying "well, there are lots of planets to colonize and lots of places to live". Picard's brother lived in a vineyard. Why did he live there and not someone else? How do you transact the ownership of real estate outside of war and inheritance in the Star Trek universe? Other Star Trek empires still used money for these problems.
Replicators are a nice idea but they don't solve the whole economic problem.
Microsoft pays about twice as much in H.264 licensing fees as they receive in licensing payments. So in effect their use of H.264 is discounted by about 50%, but they're not making a profit out of it.
https://nokiatech.github.io/heif/ which is presented as the official site.
It's better to look directly at the HEIF git repository than the website. To quote from the HEIF README: "HEIF is a media container format. It is not an image or video encoder per se. Hence, the quality of the visual media depends highly on the proper usage of visual media encoder (e.g. HEVC). Current standard allows containing HEVC/AVC/JPEG encoded bitstreams. This can be easily extended to future visual media codecs."
So right now HEIF supports AVC (H.264), HEVC (H.265), and JPEG. And in the future in can be extended to also include AV1.
Like Apple pushing for the HEIF that uses the h265 codec.
During their HEIF presentation at WWDC 2017 (video and transcript, slides) Apple made the point that the HEIF format is designed to be codec agnostic. Apple will be using HEIF with H.264 and H.265, but in principle you could use any codec inside HEIF. HEIF itself is just an image container format.
I imagine Apple will support AV1 eventually. If and when they do, they could go ahead and use AV1 in HEIF.
How much does a VPS capable of running MediaGoblin cost lately?
You tell me. This is your directionless hypothetical scenario so you answer the question. And what about lunch? Do they have lunch money? How will they afford lunch?
But how would the operator of a new video streaming service
Who cares? That's their problem to solve. Don't forget all the investment in hardware and services just to start this streaming service in the first place. How are they going to afford that?
No one says they have to support iOS, just as no one says they can't go ahead and release an app for iOS which decodes whatever video format they want to use.
Instead, a notice like the following would be served to Safari, Chrome for iOS, Firefox for iOS, and every other web browser for iOS.
No, it will just serve H.264. All video streaming services will encode to H.264 as their baseline, fallback format and offer better formats as an option, which is exactly what they do now. If you can't play AV1 or VP9 you will be served H.264. That has been and will be the status quo for years to come.
But hopefully AV1 can be software decoded on slow old hardware in in the 240p to 360p range and hopefully it actually gets used in such cases along with Opus.
1080p VP9 video works fine on old hardware. I've tried 1080p VP9 video on a desktop system from 2006 and worked fine playing YouTube in Firefox (it couldn't handle 4K video though). AV1 might end up being similar.
Hardware VP9 decoding is rare enough of a feature already.
It's not that rare. Intel's been shipping VP9 decode acceleration for two years now. Android has supported VP9 decoding since Android 4.4, which was released in late 2013. If you have an Android phone, you probably have VP9 hardware acceleration. Plenty of AV1 hardware will be released in late 2018.
But also don't underestimate today's mobile devices. I have an iPhone 7 and I can play VP9 video in software in VLC for iOS without issue. A future VLC update will add AV1 support.
Yes. I, too, don't want to pay royalties just to work with a video file and transmit it over the internet. I don't see video licensing as needing to be different from and I want it to be the same as HTML and PNG and JPEG and all the royalty-free protocols and formats that make the web and the internet possible. We have that now with VP9 and we will have it with AV1.
In this instance their agenda matches our agenda. That's a good thing. Exploit it.
What's got me slightly pissed off is why the fuck these assholes all went "Nope, fuck off" to all of those in turn?
They didn't. VP9 is used, for example, by YouTube, Netflix, and Wikipedia. Watch a video on YouTube, right click on it and select "Stats for nerds". If your browser supports VP9 then chances are the video will be playing back in VP9.
It will take about 10 years for it to become a viable standard.
No, the AV1 bitstream format will be frozen later this year, browsers will add support for AV1 soon after that (Mozilla, for example, is already working on it in Firefox), and YouTube, which is the world's largest video site, intends to start using AV1 as soon as possible. AV1 will be adopted quickly.
Considering how many devices out there that won't support it.
Many devices will be able to support it in software. My iPhone 7 doesn't "officially" support VP9 but VP9 video plays back just fine in VLC for iOS.
Nor will I be re-encoding my videos until forced
You don't have to re-encode anything unless you want to.
I'd still be with firefox if they didnt butcher the interface trying to copy windows ribbon
I use Firefox all the time and I have no idea what ribbon interface you're talking about. When I use Firefox on Windows I turn on the menu and I also switch to the Compact Light theme, which is one of the three default themes.
guess what is going to happen to your clever ad blocker strategy
Nothing will happen to it because I'll keep using Firefox. You should use Firefox too and that will help address the problem of Google's dominance of the browser market.
So you want to compare the number of cars -- which cost $30-90k a phone, and lasts upwards of 20 years to a smartphone which costs $500-800 and lasts for three years?
Yes. This is the dominance of the smart phone in the electronics category. This is why the "must have hardware support now" argument has always been weak. Mobile is the dominant platform and the hardware changes often.
The PlayStation alone sold more than 80 million units -- to say nothing of the 60 million (and counting) PS4's, or the 30+ million Xbox One's
Lifetime. In any case, there's nothing stopping the PS4 or the XBox One supporting whatever codec they like in software. Your original argument was that entrenched, embedded devices with no possibility of upgrade dictate codec success, remember?
Either way, the numbers are pathetic relative to phones and PCs. And remember: more than half of YouTube video is watched from mobile devices.
Nobody is going to care about VP9 six years from now
Of course not. We'll all be using AV1. I repeat: 1.5 billion smart phones sold per year, 280 million PCs sold per year. All other categories are irrelevant in the face of those numbers.
Your argument is still unimpressive. I'll just get on with listening to Opus audio and watching VP9 video on my iPhone 7.
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Java is the new statically-typed bondage-and-discipline language like Pascal? No, Java has Reflection.
Pascal has reflection as well.
because the plugin firebug
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Yes, that is the correct approach. Justine Damond made the mistake of calling the police. Mysteriously, their body cameras were turned off.
Being able to replicate anything you want at any time you want makes money irrelevant
Except that you can't replicate everything. Star Trek never addressed the ownership of real estate in the Federation beyond saying "well, there are lots of planets to colonize and lots of places to live". Picard's brother lived in a vineyard. Why did he live there and not someone else? How do you transact the ownership of real estate outside of war and inheritance in the Star Trek universe? Other Star Trek empires still used money for these problems.
Replicators are a nice idea but they don't solve the whole economic problem.
Are you joking?
Microsoft pays about twice as much in H.264 licensing fees as they receive in licensing payments. So in effect their use of H.264 is discounted by about 50%, but they're not making a profit out of it.
https://nokiatech.github.io/heif/ which is presented as the official site.
It's better to look directly at the HEIF git repository than the website. To quote from the HEIF README: "HEIF is a media container format. It is not an image or video encoder per se. Hence, the quality of the visual media depends highly on the proper usage of visual media encoder (e.g. HEVC). Current standard allows containing HEVC/AVC/JPEG encoded bitstreams. This can be easily extended to future visual media codecs."
So right now HEIF supports AVC (H.264), HEVC (H.265), and JPEG. And in the future in can be extended to also include AV1.
Like Apple pushing for the HEIF that uses the h265 codec.
During their HEIF presentation at WWDC 2017 (video and transcript, slides) Apple made the point that the HEIF format is designed to be codec agnostic. Apple will be using HEIF with H.264 and H.265, but in principle you could use any codec inside HEIF. HEIF itself is just an image container format.
I imagine Apple will support AV1 eventually. If and when they do, they could go ahead and use AV1 in HEIF.
How much does a VPS capable of running MediaGoblin cost lately?
You tell me. This is your directionless hypothetical scenario so you answer the question. And what about lunch? Do they have lunch money? How will they afford lunch?
But how would the operator of a new video streaming service
Who cares? That's their problem to solve. Don't forget all the investment in hardware and services just to start this streaming service in the first place. How are they going to afford that?
No one says they have to support iOS, just as no one says they can't go ahead and release an app for iOS which decodes whatever video format they want to use.
Instead, a notice like the following would be served to Safari, Chrome for iOS, Firefox for iOS, and every other web browser for iOS.
No, it will just serve H.264. All video streaming services will encode to H.264 as their baseline, fallback format and offer better formats as an option, which is exactly what they do now. If you can't play AV1 or VP9 you will be served H.264. That has been and will be the status quo for years to come.
Is shorter battery runtime not an "issue"?
No.
Or not being able to watch videos embedded in the webpage, especially videos that use Media Source Extensions or Encrypted Media Extensions?
Also no. Safari doesn't support VP9 so it won't be served up to Safari.
But hopefully AV1 can be software decoded on slow old hardware in in the 240p to 360p range and hopefully it actually gets used in such cases along with Opus.
1080p VP9 video works fine on old hardware. I've tried 1080p VP9 video on a desktop system from 2006 and worked fine playing YouTube in Firefox (it couldn't handle 4K video though). AV1 might end up being similar.
Hardware VP9 decoding is rare enough of a feature already.
It's not that rare. Intel's been shipping VP9 decode acceleration for two years now. Android has supported VP9 decoding since Android 4.4, which was released in late 2013. If you have an Android phone, you probably have VP9 hardware acceleration. Plenty of AV1 hardware will be released in late 2018.
But also don't underestimate today's mobile devices. I have an iPhone 7 and I can play VP9 video in software in VLC for iOS without issue. A future VLC update will add AV1 support.
It is all about not wanting to pay the royalties
Yes. I, too, don't want to pay royalties just to work with a video file and transmit it over the internet. I don't see video licensing as needing to be different from and I want it to be the same as HTML and PNG and JPEG and all the royalty-free protocols and formats that make the web and the internet possible. We have that now with VP9 and we will have it with AV1.
In this instance their agenda matches our agenda. That's a good thing. Exploit it.
What's got me slightly pissed off is why the fuck these assholes all went "Nope, fuck off" to all of those in turn?
They didn't. VP9 is used, for example, by YouTube, Netflix, and Wikipedia. Watch a video on YouTube, right click on it and select "Stats for nerds". If your browser supports VP9 then chances are the video will be playing back in VP9.
AV1 is the successor to VP9.
Not sure why they went their separate way for this though.
AOMedia and NetVC are not separate efforts, they complement each other. The same people involved with NetVC work on AV1. NetVC will use AV1.
It will take about 10 years for it to become a viable standard.
No, the AV1 bitstream format will be frozen later this year, browsers will add support for AV1 soon after that (Mozilla, for example, is already working on it in Firefox), and YouTube, which is the world's largest video site, intends to start using AV1 as soon as possible. AV1 will be adopted quickly.
Considering how many devices out there that won't support it.
Many devices will be able to support it in software. My iPhone 7 doesn't "officially" support VP9 but VP9 video plays back just fine in VLC for iOS.
Nor will I be re-encoding my videos until forced
You don't have to re-encode anything unless you want to.
Windows 10 S is locked down to run only Edge
No. You can run other browsers. It's just that Edge is always the default browser. Read the Windows 10 S FAQ
What are you talking about? There's already a WebExtensions version of uBlock Origin. Read the release notes.
I'd still be with firefox if they didnt butcher the interface trying to copy windows ribbon
I use Firefox all the time and I have no idea what ribbon interface you're talking about. When I use Firefox on Windows I turn on the menu and I also switch to the Compact Light theme, which is one of the three default themes.
guess what is going to happen to your clever ad blocker strategy
Nothing will happen to it because I'll keep using Firefox. You should use Firefox too and that will help address the problem of Google's dominance of the browser market.
because of the intolerable level of advertising now inflicted on me
You don't have to tolerate it. Just use an ad blocker and that will solve a problem.
Who's complaining? I was correcting ignorance. VP8 support is mandatory to implement in the WebRTC spec. sl3xd didn't understand that.
So you want to compare the number of cars -- which cost $30-90k a phone, and lasts upwards of 20 years to a smartphone which costs $500-800 and lasts for three years?
Yes. This is the dominance of the smart phone in the electronics category. This is why the "must have hardware support now" argument has always been weak. Mobile is the dominant platform and the hardware changes often.
The PlayStation alone sold more than 80 million units -- to say nothing of the 60 million (and counting) PS4's, or the 30+ million Xbox One's
Lifetime. In any case, there's nothing stopping the PS4 or the XBox One supporting whatever codec they like in software. Your original argument was that entrenched, embedded devices with no possibility of upgrade dictate codec success, remember?
Either way, the numbers are pathetic relative to phones and PCs. And remember: more than half of YouTube video is watched from mobile devices.
Nobody is going to care about VP9 six years from now
Of course not. We'll all be using AV1. I repeat: 1.5 billion smart phones sold per year, 280 million PCs sold per year. All other categories are irrelevant in the face of those numbers.
Your argument is still unimpressive. I'll just get on with listening to Opus audio and watching VP9 video on my iPhone 7.
Selection bias, much? You're clearly cherry-picking your data.
Prove it.
What about virtually every recent Blu-ray and DVD player
In 2015 there were only 43.5 million blu-ray players total in households in the US. And that's after 9 years of availability.
Or automotive media players
Global car sales for 2016. 77 million cars were sold.
Global smart phone sales for 2016. 1.5 billion smartphones were sold.
Global PC shipments per quarter in 2016. 70 million PCs are sold every quarter.
The numbers don't lie. Your argument is unimpressive.