Would somebody care to explain to me how different sticks of RAM at the same frequency with the same timings can perform differently?
I had presumed that the frequency and timings absolutely dictated the bandwidth and latency etc. For example, with CL2.5 RAM you have to wait 2.5 cycles after strobing the CAS line to get your data, so doesn't that operation take exactly the same ammount of time on every stick of CL2.5 RAM? Isn't the same true of every operation and therefore the overall performance? Why not? Do the modules themselves cache and pre-fetch data in the same way CPUs do?
Note I'm only talking about sticks at the exact same frequency and timings - it's easy to understand how faster timings and higher frequencies improve performance.
You could also go off the processor ID that Intel implemented back in the P2 or P3 days.
Much easier to use the MAC address of the NIC. I suspect more people have a MAC address than have a PII or PIII. Sure you can fake it, but then what can't you fake?
Starting a sentence with and, then not finish the sentence (fragment) and using "worst" instead of worse.. Yes, you are right. I didn't think it could get any worse than that.
If you must flame someone for grammar then at least try to use correct grammar yourself. Your cases are all screwed up ("starting [...] then not finish") and you didn't quote the first "and", making the first sentence meaningless. My parser threw an error on the second (zero-length) sentence and I gave up.
i use fuck@off.com, fuck@you.com, etc...I've wondered, does a "real" person see this email address and say "you dastardly kids! you foiled me again!"
I used to run the mailing lists for a couple of websites. Of course most of it was automated and a human never saw most of the data, but I would search through the databade for certain words (like fuck) and weed out the obviously fake entries. These were opt-in mailing lists and competition entries though, so the SNR was pretty good. I wasn't trying to save bandwidth or anything, but some of the things people put it are pretty funny - it passed the time.
So yes, a real human may see your address (and the rest of your form entries), but I wouldn't count on it. I can't say I ever said "you dastardly kids! you foiled me again!":)
I doubt anyone would be willing to 1400$ for a toy, or could afford to blow 1400 on something like that.
I suppose Ferrari should just shut up shop right now. I doubt anyone would be willing to spend $100,000 for a toy, or could afford to blow $100,000 on something like that.
I think I got what you meant, but I didn't necessarily agree with it.
I think your point was that wide availability of a tool will increase the number of people using it and thereby increase sales of (in this case) Sun products. While that is true to an extent I think you're hoping for a bit much for Sun to port it to Linux. Sun are a business. They have an OS and boxen to sell. They are generally a community-friendly company, sure, but if dtrace is as useful as they say then I can see them wanting to keep it proprietary and use it to draw people in to buy their OS and their boxen.
I'm not even sure how well other OSes could use dtrace, at least without a fair bit of work. It sounds to me like it's pretty tightly integrated with the OS (for obvious reasons).
And anyway, you can use it. You can download Solaris for x86 for free and get used to the tools that way. So basically they are doing what you want, but with their entire OS instead of just this one tool.
I'm so nice I'll even show you where you can get it. Right here.
If I can't use it, then I'll never learn about how good it is.
So if some software isn't in the Gentoo portage tree you won't run it on your Solaris boxes at work?
This is proprietary software for a version of Solaris which isn't even out yet.
Remind me not to employ you as a Solaris sysadmin. Hell, remind me not to employ you to make the tea - we might have different cups at work and you wouldn't know what to do with them.
You'll not get 250GB onto a single tape unless you're prepared to spend a few kilobucks on the drive.
You should be able to pick up an autoloader for $200 on ebay if you're too lazy to swap tapes yourself. Small autoloaders hold 6-10 tapes, so one of them full of DDS4 tapes (20GB uncompressed) with some compression ought to fit all your data on. You'd want a few sets of tapes too, but DDS4 tapes are fairly cheap ($3-5 each).
They are slow though, say 2MB/sec, means it would take the best part of two days to back up your entire system!
After a while, when a product is available that is better than anything on the market
Like betamax, you mean? Yeah.
In the world of consumer electronics (which this is, it's not IT), well marketed products sell. Quality, technical innovation and all the other things that really should sell a product like this are irrelevant, bacuase the people who are going to buy it don't know and don't care.
I don't even care that it ran on linux. This is a games/entertainment box yes? It runs games and 3 or 4 applications. Who gives a fuck what the platform is as long as it works first time, every time, in an intuitive way? Nobody that's going to buy it, that's for sure. --
Huh? Maybe the person who does not believe in god is actually concerned about truth and evidence you think?
Personally, I think both religious types and atheists are wrong - there isn't enough evidence to decide either way (there is only one piece of credible evidence for the existance of god - the universe itself).
The only intellectually rigorous point of view is to be an agnostic. --
Newspapers, News promgrammes and news websites don't generally pull articles for bias. They do for factual incorrectness, particularly when they can get their asses sued for it.
Personally, I pointed out the precise nature of the errors he made and the source of the information.
I also pointed the same thing out to RedHat's PR company, along with the suggestion that a libel case might provide a little good publicity for RedHat.:) --
"How do you suggest one can compete with deliberately erroneous reporting?"
There is only one way - the courts. I sincerely hope RedHat make this into a very public libel action. Having said that, there is always the risk that the MS PR machine will twist the truth sufficiently that all the facts get lost in a sea of statistics. --
I used to work with a couple of NT boxes that worked like a dream serving hundreds of thousands of pages a month, uptime of three to six months each.
I once saw a Linux box crash.
I conclude NT is vastly superior to Linux and will continue to ignore Linux despite a new kernel and new versions of all the software I ran on it being released.
I noted with amusement (but no surprise) the constant jibes from Americans about how great and free their country is, and how this could never happen there.
Bollocks.
I've no doubt it's happening there as we speak. And here. And in France and Germany and Japan and any other techo-literate country.
The reason the law exists is so that the information gathered can be used in court cases. They're going to gather it anyway, at least here in the UK they're polite enough to let us know rather than allow people to live under the dillusion that they live in a free country.
To anyone who thinks I'm a paranoid conspiracy theorist think about this:
Secret services (be they the FBI or CIA or MI6 or Mossad...) hire fucking clever people. The cleverest they can get. They give them obscene ammounts of money and all the kit they need. They know how to do it. They have they kit to do it. They're rather good at keeping things secret.
Whatever makes you think they *wouldn't* do it? Some poxy consitiution? Ha! --
It is inevitable that this kind of system would be developed at some time, and with MS having the cash and providing most of the desktop systems used on the planet it was pretty likely it would be them (if among others).
We all know, based on experience of MS's other attempts at being 'helpful' (wizards, paper clip bastards...), that at least the first version will be useless, probably the first few versions. I doubt I will be using software like this for several years, it will take that long for it to become anything other than an irritation for me..
Slashdot readers are hardly a representative cross-section of the population as a whole, or even of computer users or internet users. I do wonder whether some people actually *like* the paperclip bastard and find it useful, presumably they do otherwise MS wouldn't spend cash writing it (I am assuming they know what their customers think they want, which is distinct from what we know they want). It's these people that will be the target market, the people who find using a computer to do anything hard, so I wouldn't expect a positive reaction from Slashdot readers.
A certain ammount of praise is due to MS, at least it will be they who make the mistakes from which the rest of us can learn. --
Why? Because it's DANGEROUS. You're concentrating on who someone was seen with at someone's party? While you're in control of a 1 ton vehicle doing 55 miles an hour?
The issue isn't that you're talking to someone else, otherwise conversations with passengers would be banned, it's that you have to take one hand off the wheel for the whole call and take your eyes off the road while making/answering calls. --
Tell that to someone you crash into. I haven't had one, and I don't plan on getting in one:P And part of you accident avoidance strategy is to distract yourself and obscure part of your peripheral vision? Nice. Nobody is saying that if you use a mobile phone you *will* crash, they are saying it is *more*likely* you will crash, and they're right. How good a driver you are is not relevant, it is the effect on your 'basic ability' that is being considered, even Michael Schumacher would be *more*likely* to crash if he was using a mobile phone while driving. Chances are you won't get into a crash if you use a mobile phone in a car. The chances are even better that you won't get into a crash if you don't. --
People in the commercial world don't choose Linux for freedom, they choose it on the basis of reliability, security, scalability and cost. Sometimes it's not the best solution, sometimes it is but a commercial decision like that is not made on the basis of some philosophical bent. The cheapest thing that fills the criteria you have is the best solution. --
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I had presumed that the frequency and timings absolutely dictated the bandwidth and latency etc. For example, with CL2.5 RAM you have to wait 2.5 cycles after strobing the CAS line to get your data, so doesn't that operation take exactly the same ammount of time on every stick of CL2.5 RAM? Isn't the same true of every operation and therefore the overall performance? Why not? Do the modules themselves cache and pre-fetch data in the same way CPUs do?
Note I'm only talking about sticks at the exact same frequency and timings - it's easy to understand how faster timings and higher frequencies improve performance.
Much easier to use the MAC address of the NIC. I suspect more people have a MAC address than have a PII or PIII. Sure you can fake it, but then what can't you fake?
If you must flame someone for grammar then at least try to use correct grammar yourself. Your cases are all screwed up ("starting [...] then not finish") and you didn't quote the first "and", making the first sentence meaningless. My parser threw an error on the second (zero-length) sentence and I gave up.
Thank you for proving it could get worse.
I used to run the mailing lists for a couple of websites. Of course most of it was automated and a human never saw most of the data, but I would search through the databade for certain words (like fuck) and weed out the obviously fake entries. These were opt-in mailing lists and competition entries though, so the SNR was pretty good. I wasn't trying to save bandwidth or anything, but some of the things people put it are pretty funny - it passed the time.
So yes, a real human may see your address (and the rest of your form entries), but I wouldn't count on it. I can't say I ever said "you dastardly kids! you foiled me again!" :)
I suppose Ferrari should just shut up shop right now. I doubt anyone would be willing to spend $100,000 for a toy, or could afford to blow $100,000 on something like that.
You'd need some fancy geartrains and clutches to run numerous servos from a single motor.
I think your point was that wide availability of a tool will increase the number of people using it and thereby increase sales of (in this case) Sun products. While that is true to an extent I think you're hoping for a bit much for Sun to port it to Linux. Sun are a business. They have an OS and boxen to sell. They are generally a community-friendly company, sure, but if dtrace is as useful as they say then I can see them wanting to keep it proprietary and use it to draw people in to buy their OS and their boxen.
I'm not even sure how well other OSes could use dtrace, at least without a fair bit of work. It sounds to me like it's pretty tightly integrated with the OS (for obvious reasons).
And anyway, you can use it. You can download Solaris for x86 for free and get used to the tools that way. So basically they are doing what you want, but with their entire OS instead of just this one tool.
I'm so nice I'll even show you where you can get it. Right here.
So if some software isn't in the Gentoo portage tree you won't run it on your Solaris boxes at work?
This is proprietary software for a version of Solaris which isn't even out yet.
Remind me not to employ you as a Solaris sysadmin. Hell, remind me not to employ you to make the tea - we might have different cups at work and you wouldn't know what to do with them.
You should be able to pick up an autoloader for $200 on ebay if you're too lazy to swap tapes yourself. Small autoloaders hold 6-10 tapes, so one of them full of DDS4 tapes (20GB uncompressed) with some compression ought to fit all your data on. You'd want a few sets of tapes too, but DDS4 tapes are fairly cheap ($3-5 each).
They are slow though, say 2MB/sec, means it would take the best part of two days to back up your entire system!
I think you may need to spend more money :)
You RTFM? Sheesh, I bet you RTFA as well.
I think you may have the wrong forum.
This is simple, why not shoulder the burden of hardware cost on the user?
Simple, because the console would cost 2-5 times as much as the competition and nobody would buy it.
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After a while, when a product is available that is better than anything on the market Like betamax, you mean? Yeah. In the world of consumer electronics (which this is, it's not IT), well marketed products sell. Quality, technical innovation and all the other things that really should sell a product like this are irrelevant, bacuase the people who are going to buy it don't know and don't care. I don't even care that it ran on linux. This is a games/entertainment box yes? It runs games and 3 or 4 applications. Who gives a fuck what the platform is as long as it works first time, every time, in an intuitive way? Nobody that's going to buy it, that's for sure.
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Huh? Maybe the person who does not believe in god is actually concerned about truth and evidence you think?
Personally, I think both religious types and atheists are wrong - there isn't enough evidence to decide either way (there is only one piece of credible evidence for the existance of god - the universe itself).
The only intellectually rigorous point of view is to be an agnostic.
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Personally, I pointed out the precise nature of the errors he made and the source of the information.
I also pointed the same thing out to RedHat's PR company, along with the suggestion that a libel case might provide a little good publicity for RedHat. :)
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There is only one way - the courts. I sincerely hope RedHat make this into a very public libel action. Having said that, there is always the risk that the MS PR machine will twist the truth sufficiently that all the facts get lost in a sea of statistics.
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I used to work with a couple of NT boxes that worked like a dream serving hundreds of thousands of pages a month, uptime of three to six months each.
I once saw a Linux box crash.
I conclude NT is vastly superior to Linux and will continue to ignore Linux despite a new kernel and new versions of all the software I ran on it being released.
Bollocks.
One experience does not make a rule.
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Bollocks.
I've no doubt it's happening there as we speak. And here. And in France and Germany and Japan and any other techo-literate country.
The reason the law exists is so that the information gathered can be used in court cases. They're going to gather it anyway, at least here in the UK they're polite enough to let us know rather than allow people to live under the dillusion that they live in a free country.
To anyone who thinks I'm a paranoid conspiracy theorist think about this:
Secret services (be they the FBI or CIA or MI6 or Mossad...) hire fucking clever people. The cleverest they can get. They give them obscene ammounts of money and all the kit they need. They know how to do it. They have they kit to do it. They're rather good at keeping things secret.
Whatever makes you think they *wouldn't* do it? Some poxy consitiution? Ha!
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Are eBay not publishing copyright material? If so where does that leave 'Fair Use', which I would have thought this was.
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We all know, based on experience of MS's other attempts at being 'helpful' (wizards, paper clip bastards...), that at least the first version will be useless, probably the first few versions. I doubt I will be using software like this for several years, it will take that long for it to become anything other than an irritation for me..
Slashdot readers are hardly a representative cross-section of the population as a whole, or even of computer users or internet users. I do wonder whether some people actually *like* the paperclip bastard and find it useful, presumably they do otherwise MS wouldn't spend cash writing it (I am assuming they know what their customers think they want, which is distinct from what we know they want). It's these people that will be the target market, the people who find using a computer to do anything hard, so I wouldn't expect a positive reaction from Slashdot readers.
A certain ammount of praise is due to MS, at least it will be they who make the mistakes from which the rest of us can learn.
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[fines for driving and mobiling]
Why? Because it's DANGEROUS. You're concentrating on who someone was seen with at someone's party? While you're in control of a 1 ton vehicle doing 55 miles an hour?
The issue isn't that you're talking to someone else, otherwise conversations with passengers would be banned, it's that you have to take one hand off the wheel for the whole call and take your eyes off the road while making/answering calls.
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Tell that to someone you crash into. I haven't had one, and I don't plan on getting in one :P And part of you accident avoidance strategy is to distract yourself and obscure part of your peripheral vision? Nice. Nobody is saying that if you use a mobile phone you *will* crash, they are saying it is *more*likely* you will crash, and they're right. How good a driver you are is not relevant, it is the effect on your 'basic ability' that is being considered, even Michael Schumacher would be *more*likely* to crash if he was using a mobile phone while driving. Chances are you won't get into a crash if you use a mobile phone in a car. The chances are even better that you won't get into a crash if you don't.
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People in the commercial world don't choose Linux for freedom, they choose it on the basis of reliability, security, scalability and cost. Sometimes it's not the best solution, sometimes it is but a commercial decision like that is not made on the basis of some philosophical bent. The cheapest thing that fills the criteria you have is the best solution.
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