Wow! I think I just shit a turd smarter than you. Give me your mailing address and I'll send it too you... you two will have a nice conversation, especially since my friend here is a close relative of Microsoft!:-)
Good point! I guess Borland and Apple want to expand to as large an audience as possible - if a developer is used to Borland's/Inprise's tools, so be it. But the NeXT tools you mention (IB, PB, WOBuilder, etc.), absolutely kick ass. If people would just use them, they would be impressed. I used several development environments over the past couple of years and they only leave me yearning for my NeXT/WebObjects development tools. And all the Java snobs out there should free their minds alittle (oh sorry, you can't "free your minds", you've gotta wait for the garbage collector to do that for you:-) and take the couple of days required to learn Obj-C... you'll be a better programmer for it.
Well, lets see. Apple's primary differentiator in the market is their hardware and their OS. This is what makes them different than the Wintels of the world. Microsoft is primarily a software company; they couldn't give a crap about who sells the hardware that runs their bloated OS's. It would be better to compare what SUN is doing relative to Apple rather than Microsoft... hmmm, does SUN make their HARDWARE available to the open source community? Do they make their Solaris OS available to the opensource community? I'd be interested in hearing answers from someone who knows... I bet other than the Java open source effort, SUN is pretty closed about those things that really generate revenue for them (primarily their hardware - by the way, Java is pretty slow, uses lots of memory and needs big iron to run well...hmmm, maybe SUN's onto something:-). Does anyone make SUN clones?
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Wow! I think I just shit a turd smarter than you. Give me your mailing address and I'll send it too you... you two will have a nice conversation, especially since my friend here is a close relative of Microsoft! :-)
Good point! I guess Borland and Apple want to expand to as large an audience as possible - if a developer is used to Borland's/Inprise's tools, so be it. But the NeXT tools you mention (IB, PB, WOBuilder, etc.), absolutely kick ass. If people would just use them, they would be impressed. I used several development environments over the past couple of years and they only leave me yearning for my NeXT/WebObjects development tools. And all the Java snobs out there should free their minds alittle (oh sorry, you can't "free your minds", you've gotta wait for the garbage collector to do that for you :-) and take the couple of days required to learn Obj-C... you'll be a better programmer for it.
Well, lets see. Apple's primary differentiator in the market is their hardware and their OS. This is what makes them different than the Wintels of the world. Microsoft is primarily a software company; they couldn't give a crap about who sells the hardware that runs their bloated OS's. It would be better to compare what SUN is doing relative to Apple rather than Microsoft... hmmm, does SUN make their HARDWARE available to the open source community? Do they make their Solaris OS available to the opensource community? I'd be interested in hearing answers from someone who knows... I bet other than the Java open source effort, SUN is pretty closed about those things that really generate revenue for them (primarily their hardware - by the way, Java is pretty slow, uses lots of memory and needs big iron to run well...hmmm, maybe SUN's onto something :-). Does anyone make SUN clones?