Um, I don't see what you're trying to get at. You tone and sentence structure suggests that you're arguing, but you're agreeing with everything I already said. You expanded the concepts, but agreed with them nonetheless.
Exactly, but back in the day, people with severe food allergies simply died much of the time because no one knew what was going on -or they thought that person was diseased/ possessed and refused to help them. Therefor, there were less people in the population with allergies because there were less to pass on the defective genes that cause them.
Reread my comment more carefully. The quality of the livestream was not the most important thought in my head. It's the disturbing lack of organization and direction of so many protesters. However, seeing livestreams from a few cities other than NYC, I see that many of the groups are better organized.
I know some people want to make the argument "Gather first, organize later". Well, guess what, there's already plenty enough people to sustain an organized movement AND if more order is demonstrated then more people will join. I think it's time for a 10k or larger march on Capital Hill. Everyone interested needs to take the responsibility to help organize bus trips from their location to gather as many participants as possible.
I have a similar story with humidity. Growing up in New Orleans, the first few times I went to vacation in Nevada, nearly every orifice in my body bled. Likewise, my friends from there would constantly feel 'sticky' when visiting New Orleans. After several trips back and forth though, we all got use to it.
See, that's a MUCH better livestream than I've seen previously. The video quality is low, but that's forgiven for the media. Your friends control the camera well, knowing it's limitations.
Maybe I just had bad timing, listening to only the few hours of bad streaming from Wall Street. Here's my biggest two complaints about those; poor volume control, and irritating speech. Usually this is caused by someone yelling into their camera with an annoying pitch (at least it's annoying on camera), and drowning out all other sounds. Another minor complaint is not understanding frame rate issues. You have to move cameras very slowly (preferably leave them still most of the time) or it's unrecognizable blurs. This Portland crew addresses these issues pretty well. Good job, I'll listen to them more often.
I see they also have good organization and don't chant the same things over and over.
Thanks. I hadn't tried that because the first couple times I posted after getting positive karma, the paragraphs were formed automatically. So I was confused, but now I use these http://www.w3schools.com/html/html_paragraphs.asp
Congratulations, you're the first person to counter-argue me without simply saying "electric cars suck". You took the time to find numbers, but you also misinterpreted mine.
I was comparing a cheaper electric car of $10k ($4k for the car and $6k for the batteries). These vehicles actually exist and are conversions of small used cars like Miatas, Beetles, Festivas, etc. Their range really is 50 mi as long as you don't go over 45 MPH much. The electric cars made by the big automotive companies are absurdly priced. This might be because of their 'newness', but I suspect it's intentional to turn people away from the idea because these cars cost MUCH less to maintain than internal combustion engines.
As far as the cost of electricity, you're absolutely correct. Fossil fuel burning states have it cheaper, but even the states with higher rates won't ruin my conclusion. I also really hope we have a shift towards better sources like tidal generators and nuclear power. That's right, nuclear. It's cheapest, and would be safest if people built the reactors in safer ways. The spent nuclear fuel can be sent into space if we cared enough about that issue.
If you want proof of the cheaper electric vehicles, here's one I'm in the process of buying and converting to LiFePO4 batteries: http://www.e-volks.com/74_super_beetle_sunroof.html With the $500 upgrade option, it will meet my commuting needs just fine. There's no air conditioner, but I can change that later if I feel the need.
Haha, I'd mod that if I hadn't already commented on the posting. Watch out for Al Gore's head flying around in a rocket powered jar trying to destroy ASIMO.
That's what I was implying. It'd be nice if/. added a little marker to indicate which posts are anonymous in their title -so that you don't have to expand them to find out. And thanks for answering.
Yeah, if their summers are that mild, it doesn't seem necessary. But then again, as a proof of concept, it has to happen somewhere the winters get very cold but the summers could stand to loose a little bit of heat. If they're too cold during the summer, they can break up the ice.
Got to admit, that's the most realistic way to naturally cool an area I've heard of to date. I just hope it doesn't mess with any established order too much -like fish migrations or an increase in flooding.
This is nothing new to protests. They get cleared out all the time (even in the USA) and then regroup. Is the timing suspicious, a little, but you could have picked any day for the clearing and then said it was to harm a future event. I was never in the protests (none were near my location) but I hope they shrug this off and regroup. I also REALLY hope they get some fricken direction and organization. Simply being there isn't enough, they have to organize efforts on specific targets more than the few leaders have so far. Oh, and for the love of God take some control over the 'live feeds' and at least try to find someone with any amount of charisma and social skills to narrate them. The live streams I've watched so far were a painful raping of my eyes and ears.
Huh? Try to be a little more coherent and research your arguments first. I agree with you that driving is a privilege and not a right, but your argument fails to convince on its own. Saying that something is not a right because "it's not in the constitution" is displaying your ignorance of one of the constitution's purposes. It's suppose to be changed very often to accommodate new things that could not or would not be considered when it was first written. Now if you'll excuse me, I have to get off my soap box -it hurts my feet.
I mostly understand the figures this post states, but it sounds like engineering dialog from 'Star Trek: Voyager'. But, all this means to me is that the chips from last year are now cheaper that they've been out-classed.
Right on. It's like saying "A new breakthrough could finally make television possible inside your home!" For something cheaper than the Leaf, read my comment right below this one.
"...will finally make the electric car a reality?"
Um, first of all electric cars are actually older than gasoline cars (snobby comment, done).
Second, with current battery tech electric cars are already more cost effective than gas driven cars when you compare vehicles of identical costs. The only wrinkle is lack of highways travel, but there's a solution for that too. Compare a $10k used car to $10k electric car: The cost of a decent LiFePO4 battery pack is $6k, the distance per charge is at least 50 mi, the charge cycles is at least 2k -meaning that the $6k battery pack will last for 100k mi. The cost of electricity to recharge the pack is ~$0.10 per 950 Wh which means the cost of 100k mi is ~$1645.14 -or $7645.14 for the total cost of electricity and battery. Now, for the gasoline car lets say gas will average $4/gal for the next 10 years (that seems low considering it more than doubles in price every two years) and that a decent used car will get 35-40 MPG in the city. Considering ONLY the cost of gas (not oil, maintenance, or repairs on the engine), the cost of fuel for 100k mi will be between $10k and $12k. This is with a very conservative estimate of gasoline costs and not accounting for the lower maintenance costs of electric drive systems. To address highway travel, any car 3500 lbs and under requires about 18 HP to travel at 60-70 MPH. If you have trunk space or a trailer hitch on your electric car, you can add a gasoline or propane generator to produce the 13.5 kW that your car uses on the highway and have infinite range. Or do what I do and barrow someone's gas car when you need to go more than 50 mi. Sorry about the formatting,/. took away my paragraphs:(
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Um, I don't see what you're trying to get at. You tone and sentence structure suggests that you're arguing, but you're agreeing with everything I already said. You expanded the concepts, but agreed with them nonetheless.
Exactly, but back in the day, people with severe food allergies simply died much of the time because no one knew what was going on -or they thought that person was diseased/ possessed and refused to help them. Therefor, there were less people in the population with allergies because there were less to pass on the defective genes that cause them.
Reread my comment more carefully. The quality of the livestream was not the most important thought in my head. It's the disturbing lack of organization and direction of so many protesters. However, seeing livestreams from a few cities other than NYC, I see that many of the groups are better organized.
I know some people want to make the argument "Gather first, organize later". Well, guess what, there's already plenty enough people to sustain an organized movement AND if more order is demonstrated then more people will join. I think it's time for a 10k or larger march on Capital Hill. Everyone interested needs to take the responsibility to help organize bus trips from their location to gather as many participants as possible.
I have a similar story with humidity. Growing up in New Orleans, the first few times I went to vacation in Nevada, nearly every orifice in my body bled. Likewise, my friends from there would constantly feel 'sticky' when visiting New Orleans. After several trips back and forth though, we all got use to it.
Hahaha, yes, like that.
OK, but it would be a problem now, and that's the issue. But, to add, I bet less people were allergic to molds back then.
If you want a better parallel, look at the protests during the Great Depression and how they were 'cleared'.
See, that's a MUCH better livestream than I've seen previously. The video quality is low, but that's forgiven for the media. Your friends control the camera well, knowing it's limitations.
Maybe I just had bad timing, listening to only the few hours of bad streaming from Wall Street. Here's my biggest two complaints about those; poor volume control, and irritating speech. Usually this is caused by someone yelling into their camera with an annoying pitch (at least it's annoying on camera), and drowning out all other sounds. Another minor complaint is not understanding frame rate issues. You have to move cameras very slowly (preferably leave them still most of the time) or it's unrecognizable blurs. This Portland crew addresses these issues pretty well. Good job, I'll listen to them more often.
I see they also have good organization and don't chant the same things over and over.
Thanks. I hadn't tried that because the first couple times I posted after getting positive karma, the paragraphs were formed automatically. So I was confused, but now I use these http://www.w3schools.com/html/html_paragraphs.asp
Congratulations, you're the first person to counter-argue me without simply saying "electric cars suck". You took the time to find numbers, but you also misinterpreted mine.
I was comparing a cheaper electric car of $10k ($4k for the car and $6k for the batteries). These vehicles actually exist and are conversions of small used cars like Miatas, Beetles, Festivas, etc. Their range really is 50 mi as long as you don't go over 45 MPH much. The electric cars made by the big automotive companies are absurdly priced. This might be because of their 'newness', but I suspect it's intentional to turn people away from the idea because these cars cost MUCH less to maintain than internal combustion engines.
As far as the cost of electricity, you're absolutely correct. Fossil fuel burning states have it cheaper, but even the states with higher rates won't ruin my conclusion. I also really hope we have a shift towards better sources like tidal generators and nuclear power. That's right, nuclear. It's cheapest, and would be safest if people built the reactors in safer ways. The spent nuclear fuel can be sent into space if we cared enough about that issue.
If you want proof of the cheaper electric vehicles, here's one I'm in the process of buying and converting to LiFePO4 batteries: http://www.e-volks.com/74_super_beetle_sunroof.html With the $500 upgrade option, it will meet my commuting needs just fine. There's no air conditioner, but I can change that later if I feel the need.
Yes, that helps a little with heat but also causes molding. Also, in places like Louisiana it does nothing at all.
Haha, I'd mod that if I hadn't already commented on the posting. Watch out for Al Gore's head flying around in a rocket powered jar trying to destroy ASIMO.
That's what I was implying. It'd be nice if /. added a little marker to indicate which posts are anonymous in their title -so that you don't have to expand them to find out. And thanks for answering.
Yeah, if their summers are that mild, it doesn't seem necessary. But then again, as a proof of concept, it has to happen somewhere the winters get very cold but the summers could stand to loose a little bit of heat. If they're too cold during the summer, they can break up the ice.
Why is it the douchbags always get first post?
Got to admit, that's the most realistic way to naturally cool an area I've heard of to date. I just hope it doesn't mess with any established order too much -like fish migrations or an increase in flooding.
If you're going to troll, at least be creative and original.
This is nothing new to protests. They get cleared out all the time (even in the USA) and then regroup. Is the timing suspicious, a little, but you could have picked any day for the clearing and then said it was to harm a future event. I was never in the protests (none were near my location) but I hope they shrug this off and regroup. I also REALLY hope they get some fricken direction and organization. Simply being there isn't enough, they have to organize efforts on specific targets more than the few leaders have so far. Oh, and for the love of God take some control over the 'live feeds' and at least try to find someone with any amount of charisma and social skills to narrate them. The live streams I've watched so far were a painful raping of my eyes and ears.
Huh? Try to be a little more coherent and research your arguments first. I agree with you that driving is a privilege and not a right, but your argument fails to convince on its own. Saying that something is not a right because "it's not in the constitution" is displaying your ignorance of one of the constitution's purposes. It's suppose to be changed very often to accommodate new things that could not or would not be considered when it was first written. Now if you'll excuse me, I have to get off my soap box -it hurts my feet.
I mostly understand the figures this post states, but it sounds like engineering dialog from 'Star Trek: Voyager'. But, all this means to me is that the chips from last year are now cheaper that they've been out-classed.
Right on. It's like saying "A new breakthrough could finally make television possible inside your home!" For something cheaper than the Leaf, read my comment right below this one.
Yay, a decent comment from Anonymous Coward. He's not just trolling, hooray.
*gasoline doubles in price every 10 years!!! Sorry, typo. Also this applies to the continental USA. I have no idea what gasoline prices do elsewhere.
"...will finally make the electric car a reality?" Um, first of all electric cars are actually older than gasoline cars (snobby comment, done). Second, with current battery tech electric cars are already more cost effective than gas driven cars when you compare vehicles of identical costs. The only wrinkle is lack of highways travel, but there's a solution for that too. Compare a $10k used car to $10k electric car: The cost of a decent LiFePO4 battery pack is $6k, the distance per charge is at least 50 mi, the charge cycles is at least 2k -meaning that the $6k battery pack will last for 100k mi. The cost of electricity to recharge the pack is ~$0.10 per 950 Wh which means the cost of 100k mi is ~$1645.14 -or $7645.14 for the total cost of electricity and battery. Now, for the gasoline car lets say gas will average $4/gal for the next 10 years (that seems low considering it more than doubles in price every two years) and that a decent used car will get 35-40 MPG in the city. Considering ONLY the cost of gas (not oil, maintenance, or repairs on the engine), the cost of fuel for 100k mi will be between $10k and $12k. This is with a very conservative estimate of gasoline costs and not accounting for the lower maintenance costs of electric drive systems. To address highway travel, any car 3500 lbs and under requires about 18 HP to travel at 60-70 MPH. If you have trunk space or a trailer hitch on your electric car, you can add a gasoline or propane generator to produce the 13.5 kW that your car uses on the highway and have infinite range. Or do what I do and barrow someone's gas car when you need to go more than 50 mi. Sorry about the formatting, /. took away my paragraphs :(
Well you get what you paid for.... Oh that's right, you didn't pay the editors anything.