Windows 7 is vastly superior. I use it every day. Every time I have to go back to using XP, it's like a nightmare... so backwards, obsolete, ancient, and awful.
And works superbly in 64-bit mode (unlike XP). And is VASTLY more secure and stable. And has VASTLY improved usability for a great many tasks in the UI.
Windows 7 *is* great, and I cannot fathom how you can assert otherwise. And most of the world disagrees wtih you on that point too. You're just utterly delusional, imho.
Um... how is "Start, Shutdown" more difficult than in XP? In Win7, the default power button is "shutdown", so it's exactly two clicks. And as for keyboard... Win + Right-Arrow + Enter. Same number of keystrokes as in XP from my counting.
And I'm almost certain your XP has some 3rd party wireless networking support (I never bought a laptop without some, because XP's built in handling of wireless was so lacking). Win7's native support for moving between networks, network switching and selecting, etc, is just a lot easier to use and understand than XP's native solution (or the fact that going from XP to XP meant you frequently had different interfaces, as each OEM installed their own).
In no way, shape, or form is Win 7 more difficult to use for a user that just wants to use their computer than XP.
Where do you guys come up with this B.S.? You've either never used XP or you've never used Windows 7... I'm not sure which.
And those "imaginary lines"? They're very clear, both document and in behavior... move a window so that the mouse cursor bumps either the left or right side, and it will auto-dock to half the screen ("Areo-Snap"). Move so the mouse cursor bumps the top edge, and it full-screens it. Drag it back down, it'll resize to the original size (same when you drag the Snapped windows from the left or right). Resize a window and bump the mouse cursor against the top or bottom of the display, and the window will resize to take the full height of the monitor.
These aren't bugs are problems, these are great productivity enhancers, and I use them all the time. That you haven't even made the tineist effort to understand a feature so straght-forward and useful, to the point of listing it as a "drawback" of some kind, is laughable.
The Ribbon in 2010 is fine (and customizable). All it takes is a TINY effort to actually accept it and use it, instead of just deciding you fraking hate it and fighting it every step of the way. Sheesh.
(Besides, all your old keyboard short-cuts still work, so if you're actually any good, you won't even notice... and you can collapse the ribbon out of the way if you want... and you can access it entirely from the keyboard if you want (via Alt-Letter combinations...)
I know damn well how to use XP, and used it for quite a while, both personally and professionally.
Win7 is better in just about every way, as I said. I'm sorry I didn't list things that satisfied you, but I didn't want to sit here for days listing all the ways it's just plain better/easier/faster.
And your video card slam is just ignorant... it's faster because it uses hardware-accelerated video (offloading from CPU). Better drivers. More efficient.
I think, based on your post, that I can only conclude that you don't know how to use Windows 7. Pretty much every objection is either bogus, or just ignorant.
There's no valid excuse for not upgrading Vista to Win7. The upgrade is fast and easy, and you get more than enough improvements to justify the minor cost.
Let's see... Windows 7 is many times more secure than XP, has a better UI with better usability, better handling of wireless networks, better handling of external projectors, can be upgraded to IE9 (vastly more secure than IE6/7/8, even if you don't use it)...
XP needs to die. It really, really does. Win7 is better in almost every single way. Even if you only consider security issues, XP needs to die, and XP users should update to Win7.
I use Win7 at work and at home. Every time I have to go back to using XP, it's like trying to work with mittens on, or use stone knives and bear-skins. It's so ancient and obsolete and difficult to use I can't even stand it. Win7 is just better in every single way I can imagine.
What people believe is irrelevant. The fact is, it's perfectly normal. Homosexuality has always existed. And in fact exists in nature in most species where it's been looked for.
THAT is the fact of life. Your beliefs don't trump reality. People throughout history have fervently believed things that aren't true. This is no different.
There are racists in the world who hate seeing non-whites treated as equals... should games featuring people of color carry a "WARNING" in order to avoid offending those racists?
Of course not.
So why should a game carry a "warning" in order to avoid offending heterosexists, homophobes, and anti-gay bigots?
Listen to what you're advocating here.
Ignorant bigotry won't go away as long as everyone caters to it. If you're an ignorant bigot offended by something perfectly normal, then tough. Sucks to be you. (note, I'm not saying YOU are an ignorant bigot... I'm saying 'in general').
Heterosexuals force their sexual preference on everyone all the time. They have pictures of their partners on their desks, they hold hands in the street, they kiss in greeting or parting, they flaunt their relationships via wedding bands for all to see, you see their relationships and even graphic sexual portrayals of them from every book, magazine, TV show, movie, billboard, ad, etc.
Basically you're saying you're SHOCKED that acknowledging that gay people exist and should have the same rights to live and love and be visible as anyone else isn't a bad thing. You think that respect only goes one way, apparently.
Perhaps you might ponder seeing things from other people's perspectives, or walk a mile in other people's shoes. The Closet is not a healthy place, and you have no fundamental right to have everyone conspire to keep you ignorant of the existence of people different than you.
Existing is not "forcing their sexual preference on others". We're not talking about RAPE here. We're talking about human beings simply existing in life, like anyone else, with the same rights and responsibilities as everyone else... and not having to jump through hoops to hide in order to avoid offending your delicate and ridiculous sensibilities.
Sorry, but I don't think there's a "Right to live a life that is completely free from any reference to people or lives that are different from you and yours."
Gay people are constantly exposed to heterosexual relationships. How is it such a burden for a straight person to occasionally witness a homosexual one?
Really, how is your request here any less insulting that saying you never ever want to see any interracial relationships in any of your games? Or ever see any non-white people? Or ever see anyone non-Christian? (Or non-athiest?)
You don't want to see it? Tough. Seriously, get over it. You're not some fragile hot-house flower that will just DIE if exposed to something that isn't totally familiar and desirable, even for a moment. And it's hardly like there's some epidemic of forced homosexuality anywhere. All the same-sex content of these games is completely "opt in" anyway.
And your comment about adult sites? Wow, talk about homophobia. Most straight guys who are secure in their sexualtion would just move on... click next, or whatever. You need to stop and ask yourself why it bothers you so much. Seriously. Ignorant bigotry is ignorant bigotry, and you probably shouldn't want to be an ignorant, intolerant bigot... right?
I'm really curious when the second generation Volt model will appear, and what improvements/refinements it will consist of.
I'm not yet in the market, but when I am, I will seriously consider a Volt. It'll feel good to buy American AND green.
Hopefully the very near future will show some new models with the same technology, widening the appeal of the car for everyone. And hopefully with improved battery technology as well.
Look, first generations of new technology are never about "saving money". Do you really think people bought the first iPhone because they could "save money"? or the first laptops? Or the first computers?
The people willing to pay the premium for a promising technology are the ones that help create the market that allows the price to eventually come down. To belittle those that live on the cutting edge, that are "first adopters", is really short-sighted and frankly stupid. Without them, we'd never get affordable tech for the rest of us.
That said, your sister doesn't sound like a "first adopter" type person, nor does her situation sound like a good situation that can be helped by buying a first generation eletric car like the Volt.
But for people who want to support these emerging technologies, put their money where their mouth is about being greener and more efficient, then it's a decent, even smart, purchase.
(and for the record, the pollution created by a coal plant generating the energy required to charge an electric car is less than the pollution created by burning gas in a non-electric car. And batteries last longer than five years, and are getting better every year. And tax incentives for new technologies help them get off the ground, and are a smart investment for the future).
I hope you're not expecting me to defend Office, or especially Outlook (which I loathe). Outlook 2007 is the first version I've ever been able to use at all (and I still hate it, but at least I can use it). Yeah, if you were expecting me to argue with you there, you were barking up the wrong tree:-)
But I still find Windows 7 to be a massively compelling upgrade to XP in just about every single way I can imagine... from security, to UI, to the speed and ability to just do things, to the flexibility.... your only REAL issue seems to be the search issue, which seems silly to me becasue there are so many good 3rd party apps that can do that just fine (and I use several of them which is probably why I don't really care about your issues with Win7 search).
As I've indicated before, every time I am forced to go back to XP, it feels like stepping back into the stone age... or like typing with mittens on. I just can't take anyone refusing to upgrade to Win7 from XP seriously at this point.
Also for the record, I assume most businesses/enterprises will stick with Win7 on desktops and not move to Win8, for obvious "retraining" issues.
> Right-clicking on my wireless network icon and clicking "Repair" has been replaced with... nothing.
Try right-clicking and selecting "Troubleshoot Problems" or "Open Network and Sharing Center". Or left-clicking and doing the latter. It's not only all in one place (and about a hundred times better in managing wireless networks and network switching), but I rarely have ever need the "repair" functionality of XP... which I did in XP all the time. It's much better networking stack.
To this day, you're the ONLY one I see or hear complaining about this.
You could not PAY me enough to go back to XP. Every time I have to, it's like trying to work with stone knives and bear-skins, and type while wearing mittens. It's awful.
Windows 7 is a great OS, and I'm vastly more productive with it than I ever was with Windows XP.
You know you can create saved searches, right? So you don't have to keep searching over and over again... I think the reason you're beating your head against the wall so much is because you refuse to stop using Win7 like it's XP, and start using it like it's, you know, Win7.
Windows 7 GAINED a lot more than it lost, by a LONG shot. You cannot justify a statement to the contrary. You're weird search requiremens to the contrary...
(never mind, if you're so annoyed, there are only about a hundred 3rd party solutions... but apparently you'd rather keep bitching and whining rather than actually being productive...)
Keep in mind that Windows 8 is releasing with IE10, which will also be available on Windows 7.
And it is far MORE standards-complient than even IE9 (and there's little excuse for most web apps not running on IE9 as it is).
And the integration with SkyDrive, XBox, and Windows Phones will be a selling point as well. Microsoft is *finally* getting their consumer story together. It's still not perfect, but it is, for a change, compelling and competitive.
And Windows Sever 8 offers enough new features and advances and benefits to attract a good many businesses, I think... regardless of whether Windows 8 ends up on corporate desktops.
With Windows 7, Microsoft started making "search" a significant way of finding things. With Windows 8, "search" is the main way of finding things. This helps in the "too many files" scenario because you're not scanning nested file systems with hundreds of files... you just quickly get what you want, wherever it may be. I'm sure that they'll continue pushing this solution in Windows 9.
ReFS is making a tentative debut with Windows Server 8. It is not complete, but it's complete enough to be usable in many situations.
Microsoft will take the data from this being "out in the field" in deployments over the next couple of years to harden it, deepen the functionality where it's needed, and it will debut across all Windows versions with the next major release (whatever they call "Windows 9').
Windows 8 is Microsoft's play for the consumer space (iPads and Android Tablets). There, I doubt it will fail. It looks to be a very strong contender there. ARM versions will be at least as capable as the competition, with a decidedly different and unique interface (instead of a "me too" copy). Intel versions will be dramatically more capable. And I think transformer laptops (tablets that convert to laptops and vice-versa) will be an interesting and significant new market niche, enabled mostly by Windows 8.
The issue here is the Desktop. And contrary to a lot of the whining, I don't think Windows 8 is a complete disaster on the Desktop. It's perfectly usable after you get used to a few new ideas. But it IS more awkward.
I think on the Desktop, most businsess will decide to stay with Windows 7 (which they're only recently starting to migrate to anyway) and will skip Windows 8 for the most part. At least for desktops. Windows 8 Server looks a bit more compelling. But the retraining costs for Windows 8 in a corporate worker-bee environment seem to be rather extreme.
But hey, at least IT organizations have job security if anyone tries.
But here's the thing: Windows 8 will run most everything Windows 7 will run, PLUS any and all new Metro apps. This is huge for tablets. It's less of a factor for desktops.
Windows 7 is solid enough that those desktop users that don't want to make the leap and have to re-learn habits so quickly won't have to. They can stick with Windows 7 and be just fine, and be perfectly happy. They can look again when Windows 9 (whatever it's called) comes out.
But I think Windows 8 on touch tablets will be pretty successful. All the weirdness and awkwardness (well, MOST of it) just melts away when you're interacting directly with the screen via touch. And it's so much more slick and capable than an iPad.
I think the real issue with Win8 tablets won't be the OS at all... it'll be the hardware that either makes or breaks it. Crappy hardware and nobody will want it no matter how nice the OS is (or isn't). If they can get partners that put some serious design and quality, at competitive price-points, then I think they'll definitely have a winner.
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Bull. Shit.
Windows 7 is vastly superior. I use it every day. Every time I have to go back to using XP, it's like a nightmare... so backwards, obsolete, ancient, and awful.
And works superbly in 64-bit mode (unlike XP). And is VASTLY more secure and stable. And has VASTLY improved usability for a great many tasks in the UI.
Windows 7 *is* great, and I cannot fathom how you can assert otherwise. And most of the world disagrees wtih you on that point too. You're just utterly delusional, imho.
Or, you know, maybe it's just first class customer service?
Um... how is "Start, Shutdown" more difficult than in XP? In Win7, the default power button is "shutdown", so it's exactly two clicks. And as for keyboard... Win + Right-Arrow + Enter. Same number of keystrokes as in XP from my counting.
And I'm almost certain your XP has some 3rd party wireless networking support (I never bought a laptop without some, because XP's built in handling of wireless was so lacking). Win7's native support for moving between networks, network switching and selecting, etc, is just a lot easier to use and understand than XP's native solution (or the fact that going from XP to XP meant you frequently had different interfaces, as each OEM installed their own).
And no, not by any measure is XP "Secure enough".
In no way, shape, or form is Win 7 more difficult to use for a user that just wants to use their computer than XP.
Where do you guys come up with this B.S.? You've either never used XP or you've never used Windows 7... I'm not sure which.
And those "imaginary lines"? They're very clear, both document and in behavior... move a window so that the mouse cursor bumps either the left or right side, and it will auto-dock to half the screen ("Areo-Snap"). Move so the mouse cursor bumps the top edge, and it full-screens it. Drag it back down, it'll resize to the original size (same when you drag the Snapped windows from the left or right). Resize a window and bump the mouse cursor against the top or bottom of the display, and the window will resize to take the full height of the monitor.
These aren't bugs are problems, these are great productivity enhancers, and I use them all the time. That you haven't even made the tineist effort to understand a feature so straght-forward and useful, to the point of listing it as a "drawback" of some kind, is laughable.
The Ribbon in 2010 is fine (and customizable). All it takes is a TINY effort to actually accept it and use it, instead of just deciding you fraking hate it and fighting it every step of the way. Sheesh.
(Besides, all your old keyboard short-cuts still work, so if you're actually any good, you won't even notice... and you can collapse the ribbon out of the way if you want... and you can access it entirely from the keyboard if you want (via Alt-Letter combinations...)
I know damn well how to use XP, and used it for quite a while, both personally and professionally.
Win7 is better in just about every way, as I said. I'm sorry I didn't list things that satisfied you, but I didn't want to sit here for days listing all the ways it's just plain better/easier/faster.
And your video card slam is just ignorant... it's faster because it uses hardware-accelerated video (offloading from CPU). Better drivers. More efficient.
I think, based on your post, that I can only conclude that you don't know how to use Windows 7. Pretty much every objection is either bogus, or just ignorant.
There's no valid excuse for not upgrading Vista to Win7. The upgrade is fast and easy, and you get more than enough improvements to justify the minor cost.
Let's see... Windows 7 is many times more secure than XP, has a better UI with better usability, better handling of wireless networks, better handling of external projectors, can be upgraded to IE9 (vastly more secure than IE6/7/8, even if you don't use it)...
XP needs to die. It really, really does. Win7 is better in almost every single way. Even if you only consider security issues, XP needs to die, and XP users should update to Win7.
I use Win7 at work and at home. Every time I have to go back to using XP, it's like trying to work with mittens on, or use stone knives and bear-skins. It's so ancient and obsolete and difficult to use I can't even stand it. Win7 is just better in every single way I can imagine.
What people believe is irrelevant. The fact is, it's perfectly normal. Homosexuality has always existed. And in fact exists in nature in most species where it's been looked for.
THAT is the fact of life. Your beliefs don't trump reality. People throughout history have fervently believed things that aren't true. This is no different.
There are racists in the world who hate seeing non-whites treated as equals... should games featuring people of color carry a "WARNING" in order to avoid offending those racists?
Of course not.
So why should a game carry a "warning" in order to avoid offending heterosexists, homophobes, and anti-gay bigots?
Listen to what you're advocating here.
Ignorant bigotry won't go away as long as everyone caters to it. If you're an ignorant bigot offended by something perfectly normal, then tough. Sucks to be you. (note, I'm not saying YOU are an ignorant bigot... I'm saying 'in general').
Heterosexuals force their sexual preference on everyone all the time. They have pictures of their partners on their desks, they hold hands in the street, they kiss in greeting or parting, they flaunt their relationships via wedding bands for all to see, you see their relationships and even graphic sexual portrayals of them from every book, magazine, TV show, movie, billboard, ad, etc.
Basically you're saying you're SHOCKED that acknowledging that gay people exist and should have the same rights to live and love and be visible as anyone else isn't a bad thing. You think that respect only goes one way, apparently.
Perhaps you might ponder seeing things from other people's perspectives, or walk a mile in other people's shoes. The Closet is not a healthy place, and you have no fundamental right to have everyone conspire to keep you ignorant of the existence of people different than you.
Existing is not "forcing their sexual preference on others". We're not talking about RAPE here. We're talking about human beings simply existing in life, like anyone else, with the same rights and responsibilities as everyone else... and not having to jump through hoops to hide in order to avoid offending your delicate and ridiculous sensibilities.
Sorry, but I don't think there's a "Right to live a life that is completely free from any reference to people or lives that are different from you and yours."
Gay people are constantly exposed to heterosexual relationships. How is it such a burden for a straight person to occasionally witness a homosexual one?
Really, how is your request here any less insulting that saying you never ever want to see any interracial relationships in any of your games? Or ever see any non-white people? Or ever see anyone non-Christian? (Or non-athiest?)
You don't want to see it? Tough. Seriously, get over it. You're not some fragile hot-house flower that will just DIE if exposed to something that isn't totally familiar and desirable, even for a moment. And it's hardly like there's some epidemic of forced homosexuality anywhere. All the same-sex content of these games is completely "opt in" anyway.
And your comment about adult sites? Wow, talk about homophobia. Most straight guys who are secure in their sexualtion would just move on... click next, or whatever. You need to stop and ask yourself why it bothers you so much. Seriously. Ignorant bigotry is ignorant bigotry, and you probably shouldn't want to be an ignorant, intolerant bigot... right?
Get over yourself. It's SO not a big deal.
I'm really curious when the second generation Volt model will appear, and what improvements/refinements it will consist of.
I'm not yet in the market, but when I am, I will seriously consider a Volt. It'll feel good to buy American AND green.
Hopefully the very near future will show some new models with the same technology, widening the appeal of the car for everyone. And hopefully with improved battery technology as well.
To be fair, it took an unprecidented Fiscal Crisis and economic crash to get the price of gas that low again.
Look, first generations of new technology are never about "saving money". Do you really think people bought the first iPhone because they could "save money"? or the first laptops? Or the first computers?
The people willing to pay the premium for a promising technology are the ones that help create the market that allows the price to eventually come down. To belittle those that live on the cutting edge, that are "first adopters", is really short-sighted and frankly stupid. Without them, we'd never get affordable tech for the rest of us.
That said, your sister doesn't sound like a "first adopter" type person, nor does her situation sound like a good situation that can be helped by buying a first generation eletric car like the Volt.
But for people who want to support these emerging technologies, put their money where their mouth is about being greener and more efficient, then it's a decent, even smart, purchase.
(and for the record, the pollution created by a coal plant generating the energy required to charge an electric car is less than the pollution created by burning gas in a non-electric car. And batteries last longer than five years, and are getting better every year. And tax incentives for new technologies help them get off the ground, and are a smart investment for the future).
(sorry for the delay)
I hope you're not expecting me to defend Office, or especially Outlook (which I loathe). Outlook 2007 is the first version I've ever been able to use at all (and I still hate it, but at least I can use it). Yeah, if you were expecting me to argue with you there, you were barking up the wrong tree :-)
But I still find Windows 7 to be a massively compelling upgrade to XP in just about every single way I can imagine... from security, to UI, to the speed and ability to just do things, to the flexibility.... your only REAL issue seems to be the search issue, which seems silly to me becasue there are so many good 3rd party apps that can do that just fine (and I use several of them which is probably why I don't really care about your issues with Win7 search).
As I've indicated before, every time I am forced to go back to XP, it feels like stepping back into the stone age... or like typing with mittens on. I just can't take anyone refusing to upgrade to Win7 from XP seriously at this point.
Also for the record, I assume most businesses/enterprises will stick with Win7 on desktops and not move to Win8, for obvious "retraining" issues.
That's just bizarre... because I find Windows 7 networking to be light-years better, faster, and easier than XP.
Never mind Win7 being so much more stable and secure.
I still cannot fathom why anyone would cling to XP in the face of Win7.
> Right-clicking on my wireless network icon and clicking "Repair" has been replaced with... nothing.
Try right-clicking and selecting "Troubleshoot Problems" or "Open Network and Sharing Center". Or left-clicking and doing the latter. It's not only all in one place (and about a hundred times better in managing wireless networks and network switching), but I rarely have ever need the "repair" functionality of XP... which I did in XP all the time. It's much better networking stack.
Neither you nor anyone else really knows that yet. We haven't really seen Win8 tablet hardware or battery capacities yet.
And Windows 8 ships with Hyper-V, so anyone can do the VM dance now...
(well, at least on hardware that supports it.. the ARM versions won't)
To this day, you're the ONLY one I see or hear complaining about this.
You could not PAY me enough to go back to XP. Every time I have to, it's like trying to work with stone knives and bear-skins, and type while wearing mittens. It's awful.
Windows 7 is a great OS, and I'm vastly more productive with it than I ever was with Windows XP.
You know you can create saved searches, right? So you don't have to keep searching over and over again... I think the reason you're beating your head against the wall so much is because you refuse to stop using Win7 like it's XP, and start using it like it's, you know, Win7.
Windows 7 GAINED a lot more than it lost, by a LONG shot. You cannot justify a statement to the contrary. You're weird search requiremens to the contrary...
(never mind, if you're so annoyed, there are only about a hundred 3rd party solutions... but apparently you'd rather keep bitching and whining rather than actually being productive...)
Keep in mind that Windows 8 is releasing with IE10, which will also be available on Windows 7.
And it is far MORE standards-complient than even IE9 (and there's little excuse for most web apps not running on IE9 as it is).
And the integration with SkyDrive, XBox, and Windows Phones will be a selling point as well. Microsoft is *finally* getting their consumer story together. It's still not perfect, but it is, for a change, compelling and competitive.
And Windows Sever 8 offers enough new features and advances and benefits to attract a good many businesses, I think... regardless of whether Windows 8 ends up on corporate desktops.
With Windows 7, Microsoft started making "search" a significant way of finding things. With Windows 8, "search" is the main way of finding things. This helps in the "too many files" scenario because you're not scanning nested file systems with hundreds of files... you just quickly get what you want, wherever it may be. I'm sure that they'll continue pushing this solution in Windows 9.
ReFS is making a tentative debut with Windows Server 8. It is not complete, but it's complete enough to be usable in many situations.
Microsoft will take the data from this being "out in the field" in deployments over the next couple of years to harden it, deepen the functionality where it's needed, and it will debut across all Windows versions with the next major release (whatever they call "Windows 9').
Windows 8 is Microsoft's play for the consumer space (iPads and Android Tablets). There, I doubt it will fail. It looks to be a very strong contender there. ARM versions will be at least as capable as the competition, with a decidedly different and unique interface (instead of a "me too" copy). Intel versions will be dramatically more capable. And I think transformer laptops (tablets that convert to laptops and vice-versa) will be an interesting and significant new market niche, enabled mostly by Windows 8.
The issue here is the Desktop. And contrary to a lot of the whining, I don't think Windows 8 is a complete disaster on the Desktop. It's perfectly usable after you get used to a few new ideas. But it IS more awkward.
I think on the Desktop, most businsess will decide to stay with Windows 7 (which they're only recently starting to migrate to anyway) and will skip Windows 8 for the most part. At least for desktops. Windows 8 Server looks a bit more compelling. But the retraining costs for Windows 8 in a corporate worker-bee environment seem to be rather extreme.
But hey, at least IT organizations have job security if anyone tries.
But here's the thing: Windows 8 will run most everything Windows 7 will run, PLUS any and all new Metro apps. This is huge for tablets. It's less of a factor for desktops.
Windows 7 is solid enough that those desktop users that don't want to make the leap and have to re-learn habits so quickly won't have to. They can stick with Windows 7 and be just fine, and be perfectly happy. They can look again when Windows 9 (whatever it's called) comes out.
But I think Windows 8 on touch tablets will be pretty successful. All the weirdness and awkwardness (well, MOST of it) just melts away when you're interacting directly with the screen via touch. And it's so much more slick and capable than an iPad.
I think the real issue with Win8 tablets won't be the OS at all... it'll be the hardware that either makes or breaks it. Crappy hardware and nobody will want it no matter how nice the OS is (or isn't). If they can get partners that put some serious design and quality, at competitive price-points, then I think they'll definitely have a winner.