goosh.. you mean what I wrote can be used to break the law.. I didn't think of it like that.. Well, I guess that law sucks and shouldn't be a law then..
Although it's not quite as simple as that, I guess there must be hundreds of cases like this all around the world. Just because something is made into a law, doesn't mean its perfect or even fair.
Let's face it: laws are made by governments, not by the common people. Laws should be made in order to help / protect / take care of the people, but they usually are not.
Take the copyright laws, for instance. They were made in order to protect the creators of works of music, art, etc. but in reality they're used to protect the big corporations who make money out of them.
I can just picture two CompSci students working on the Carnivore box...
Mike: Hey, what's this thing do?
John: Hmm, seems like that's the part used to detect everyone's e-mail address as it passes through Carnivore.
Mike: You know what would be cool?
John: What?
Mike: I've got a way or hacking this thing. Let's keep quite about it, and when the FBI install these babies, we can use the hack to read everyone's email!
John: And why would we do that for? Other than for fun, of course.
Mike: To score with the chicks, John! To score with the chicks!
John: Oooooooh! Great idea!
*shudder* I _know_ guys in college who would really do this kind of thing...
1) Woo-hoo! (Simpsons fan) 2) Hooray! (Regular person) 3) Yee-haw! (Joe "Redneck" Sixpack) 4) Hear, hear! (British Internet user) 5) Gimme a double capucchino! (SysAdmin celebrating his day on the local Starbucks)
Do I really want to look at someone wave around a magic sword +1 for two hours, or watch some moron in a stupid cape shout "magic missile!" at some goblins? When was the last time you watched other people play D&D?
Man, you've got a point there! Watching some other people play D&D is like watching someone else write code. You just HAVE to point out all the mistakes they're making, and telling them how YOU would do it in their place. In both cases, it sucks to be the one sitting down listening to someone else's pointers and unasked-for advice.
What would make a real time 3D mystery game that's a big advance on what's out there (avoiding the classic better graphics is all we need trap)? What would make games like these more fun? An interesting theme. A level of challenge which requires a level of comprehension and smarts a tad higher than the one you have, making you learn new ways to think all through the game. Failing all that, use Lara Croft.
Now the cycle of fantasy starts again, as this is sure to turn more youngsters from wholesome persuits to playing a game which teachings that violence and dark arts are tools for success, and that the acquisition of wealth makes you a better person. When did we switch topics to the NFL?
Meta Antenen is a famous swiss track and field athlete. She won silver for long jump and pentathlon at the european championships in 1971. Unlike her cousin, Meta Crawler, who decided to put up a search page on the 'net instead of running and jumping around.
Actually, I don't think it would be such a bad thing if that 4% of top nodes were to go down. You would make people depend more on their local communities, which in many places, the net is destroying.
And while you're at it, get rid of those telephone lines and roads which allow outsiders to communicate with people in those communities. Might as well build a moat, too, just in case.
Well, you started this skinhead thing. And from where I see it, the point of your mentioning must mean: a) You're in favor of the government spying on them, b) You're against the government spying on them, or c) They have absolutely nothing to do with this discussion, but they must be related to anything that has to do with the U.K.
You brought them up. You tell me where they fit in this discussion about Internet privacy in the U.K. And, by the way, where do I get my ideas from? In your own words, "Reality".
Reality. Have you noticed how many skinheads are there in London?
Not over the Internet I haven't. But then, I dont have one of them CU-SeeMe thingies. For all I know, the people on the other side of the cable may be skinheads, Oasis followers, old gentlemanly chaps or Douglas Adams fans. Or even yet, all of the above.
And how little is done against them?
Your point being? Would you like to see the UK Government spy on them so they dont harrass minorities? Or are you against the use of espionage against any kind of minority, including skinheads? I dont suppose the skinheads meet in chat rooms in order to go out and kick some minority ass in the streets.
Maybe I should stay out of this discussion, considering I have only been to London once.
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goosh.. you mean what I wrote can be used to break the law.. I didn't think of it like that.. Well, I guess that law sucks and shouldn't be a law then..
Although it's not quite as simple as that, I guess there must be hundreds of cases like this all around the world. Just because something is made into a law, doesn't mean its perfect or even fair.
Let's face it: laws are made by governments, not by the common people. Laws should be made in order to help / protect / take care of the people, but they usually are not.
Take the copyright laws, for instance. They were made in order to protect the creators of works of music, art, etc. but in reality they're used to protect the big corporations who make money out of them.
Just my 2 pesos worth...
I can just picture two CompSci students working on the Carnivore box...
Mike: Hey, what's this thing do?
John: Hmm, seems like that's the part used to detect everyone's e-mail address as it passes through Carnivore.
Mike: You know what would be cool?
John: What?
Mike: I've got a way or hacking this thing. Let's keep quite about it, and when the FBI install these babies, we can use the hack to read everyone's email!
John: And why would we do that for? Other than for fun, of course.
Mike: To score with the chicks, John! To score with the chicks!
John: Oooooooh! Great idea!
*shudder* I _know_ guys in college who would really do this kind of thing...
Now, would that system be reviewed by professors, students, doctorate students, or by whom?
And the Mafia still makes a damned good pizza.
LaPizzaNostra: serving you good pizzas you just cant refuse.
I think we should get the code printed on the side of an 18" dildo. I'd like to see that introduced as evidence.
Instead of being introduced merely for sexual gratification?
Hmm... "Illegal briefs in Court"?
Actually, I think it would be faster (although probably more expensive) to seed the Martian poles with higher life forms, i.e. moss.
I think Carl Sagan explained that bit on the TV series "Cosmos", and on his book based in that show (coincidentally, called "Cosmos").
"Open the doors, HAL".
"I'm sorry, Dave. I have a cold".
Stupid joke, I know...
Wow... merging 3 different Slashdot threads into one very funny post. Definitely deserves the 5 score.
Of course, I just hope that it doesn't mean we'll be colonizing the universe with copies of Windows 2000. Now there's a scary thougth.
But then, that would explain the Borgs...
"Collage"? Arts Major, by any chance?
Two words: Napster servers! Let's see Metallica try to take them down...
Of course, after the Vogons destroyed the Earth, Rupert would now be the 9th planet...
A new Slashdot poll!
Whats your favorite shout of happiness:
1) Woo-hoo! (Simpsons fan)
2) Hooray! (Regular person)
3) Yee-haw! (Joe "Redneck" Sixpack)
4) Hear, hear! (British Internet user)
5) Gimme a double capucchino! (SysAdmin celebrating his day on the local Starbucks)
And me thinking of buying a few CDs during the weekend...
Hey, a Gauntlet fan!
Do I really want to look at someone wave around a magic sword +1 for two hours, or watch some moron in a stupid cape shout "magic missile!" at some goblins? When was the last time you watched other people play D&D?
Man, you've got a point there! Watching some other people play D&D is like watching someone else write code. You just HAVE to point out all the mistakes they're making, and telling them how YOU would do it in their place.
In both cases, it sucks to be the one sitting down listening to someone else's pointers and unasked-for advice.
What would make a real time 3D mystery game that's a big advance on what's out there (avoiding the classic better graphics is all we need trap)? What would make games like these more fun?
An interesting theme.
A level of challenge which requires a level of comprehension and smarts a tad higher than the one you have, making you learn new ways to think all through the game.
Failing all that, use Lara Croft.
Now the cycle of fantasy starts again, as this is sure to turn more youngsters from wholesome persuits to playing a game which teachings that violence and dark arts are tools for success, and that the acquisition of wealth makes you a better person.
When did we switch topics to the NFL?
After seeing Gladiator, I suppose most non-D&D-gamers thought it was a sequel of sorts.
Meta Antenen is a famous swiss track and field athlete. She won silver for long jump and pentathlon at the european championships in 1971.
Unlike her cousin, Meta Crawler, who decided to put up a search page on the 'net instead of running and jumping around.
Actually, I don't think it would be such a bad thing if that 4% of top nodes were to go down. You would make people depend more on their local communities, which in many places, the net is destroying.
And while you're at it, get rid of those telephone lines and roads which allow outsiders to communicate with people in those communities. Might as well build a moat, too, just in case.
Well, you started this skinhead thing. And from where I see it, the point of your mentioning must mean:
a) You're in favor of the government spying on them,
b) You're against the government spying on them, or
c) They have absolutely nothing to do with this discussion, but they must be related to anything that has to do with the U.K.
You brought them up. You tell me where they fit in this discussion about Internet privacy in the U.K. And, by the way, where do I get my ideas from? In your own words, "Reality".
he'd say I told you so.
Doubleplusgood point.
Reality. Have you noticed how many skinheads are there in London?
Not over the Internet I haven't. But then, I dont have one of them CU-SeeMe thingies. For all I know, the people on the other side of the cable may be skinheads, Oasis followers, old gentlemanly chaps or Douglas Adams fans. Or even yet, all of the above.
And how little is done against them?
Your point being? Would you like to see the UK Government spy on them so they dont harrass minorities? Or are you against the use of espionage against any kind of minority, including skinheads? I dont suppose the skinheads meet in chat rooms in order to go out and kick some minority ass in the streets.
Maybe I should stay out of this discussion, considering I have only been to London once.
Ok, I'll bite.
I failed to see any mention of minorities in the article. So where did _that_ come from?