So far everything I've read here has been about personal usage.
What about if you're a company and use CD-R's to backup and store data? Archiving off mailboxes of staff etc...
Now I may just be a thick Brit, but don't you guys have laws protecting the ability of a company to do thier business without hinderance?
A group like the RIAA would not be able to charge you extra for using goods they don't produce to perform your business how you wish.
Now, if this is right, what about freelancers? People who work from home? How could you tell the difference between buying for "personal use" and "business use"? Would you have to pay the tax anyway and claim it back somehow, including your company number or something?
I don't think this idea is at all workable, and would open up a huge can of worms if it went ahead.
I see Land Sharks rubbing thier hands in glee.
Chris.
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It looks like NVIDIA have addressed the performance shortfall by releasing new drivers, the "Detonator 4" Drivers, which, according to Toms Hardware, give about a 30% performance increase, so ATI's performance gain has been slashed to about 3-5%, which, given the allowed variation in component quality in manufacturing, pretty much dissappears in the +/- percentile.
Of course, the card isn't finished yet, so these figures are all meaningless anyway.
I would imagine this is the reason AMD have packed it in. The revenue stream from low end embedded x86 processors is likely to be significantly lower than if they used the facility to churn out top end chips while they have the ascendency in market share. Make hay while the sun shines, and all that.
looking at www.amd.com reveals:
http://www.amd.com/news/corppr/21111.html
"When it announced first quarter results on April 18, AMD projected that second quarter sales could decline by as much as 10 percent. "
OK, now where's the rot, and where's it not?
"Today the company said that, despite continuing weak PC market conditions and very aggressive pricing by Intel Corporation, the company achieved record unit sales of AMD Athlon(TM) processors, record unit sales of AMD Duron(TM) processors, and record aggregate PC processor unit sales, demonstrating the breadth, strength and competitiveness of its PC processor product line."
OK, It's not in the high end PC processor market, that's looking good...
Let's skip a week ahead, in the actual Q2 reports:
"Weakness in the communications and networking sectors continues to impact the company's foundry services and other IC products, and the company projects that these revenues will continue to decline in the third quarter."
So it looks like they've decided to cut their losses here and apply the resources to making what's selling best, and grabbing the headlines.
Chris.
It may well be possible, but in places like the UK where local calls are not free, a full ISO download would end up costing a lot of money. For instance, 6 days is 8640 minutes. Our cheapest local rate is 1p per minute and is usually about 3. So call it 2p per minute on average and that download costs me £172.80 in phone bill, as well as tying up my phone line.
I don't tend to worry about boxed distros, I buy my disk sets from http://www.cheeplinux.com/ and reccomend them. You get all the CD's, no documentation (but that's what Google and Usenet are for) no need for long downloads (apart from getting updates once you've installed) and that costs me about £12.99 for a 6 CD set.
I've just been given a boxed copy of SUSE 7.0 as a mate of mine has upgraded.
I just need to be brave enough now to trash my Windows box that has taken me two years to set up to perfection. *sigh*.
Chris.
It doesn't matter anyway, now that Microshaft are planning to stop you buying their software. You will only be able to rent it. Of course, when you rent a house you are entitled to a certain standard of housing and the landlord is culpable if any of the heating/washing machine/other specified amenities go wrong.
Essentially, if I rent a house that is in the contract as saying "With washing machine, toilet and central heating" then all of those things are the landlord's responsibility to keep running for me to a useable standard.
Unfortunately I doubt that Microshaft will pay for the fixing and damage caused by their software not living up to it's claims. And it'll be because you clicked on the "Yes I Agree" button without reading the EULA that says "You hereby give up your basic human rights" But illegal contracts are another issue altogether that I don't want to rant about here.
ObSecurity: Hell of a lot of security issues with Open Source s/w on VULN-DEV recently. I note that the responses from Open Source authors are a lot quicker than fom big companies. I guess this is because they don't have to worry about profits dropping if the news gets out.
>>Since most people will notice a big chunk of pcb sticking out there processor. Interesting idea but it won't work for the following reason: The reason AMD has gained ground on Intel more than any other, is because companies like Mesh, protek, Simply, Time, Evesham, SSC and other big name direct sales kids, opted for AMD solutions instead of Intel. The majority of people that buy these systems are never going to look inside the case. They come as a ready set up package in the majority of instances, with all the hardware you want. People won't see the evidence. And if they did, if AMD "supported" overclocking, when the consumer complained and said "Oi, I paid 1500 currency units for a 950Mhz AMD Athlon and what i've got is actually a 700Mhz Athlon overclocked to 950, I'm not happy!" The retailer can say "hey, it's an Athlon, it's running at 950Mhz, AMD are cool with us doing this to their processors so tough doo doo!" AMD have to make sure that if someone pays for a 950Mhz processor, that's what they get. I, however, beleive that if I can sucessfully hack something to make it better for me, then I should be allowed to do it freely. I don't see how any clock locking mechanism cannot be circumvented by hardware hacking. I have seen an overclocked Mobo that was hacked to run at voltages it was not originally designed to support, hence a new CPU could be added without needing to upgrade the old Socket7 Mobo to a Super7. 'Course, the FSB was still limited to 66Mhz but that's another story. Chris.
I seem to have spotted your deliberate mistake. To run a CPU faster than it's standard rating you need to increase the clock multiplier, yes. However you also need to feed it extra energy to run faster, i.e. you have to up the voltage. Chris.
It occurs to me that what has been done here is to remove, in infancy, the manufacture of a growth regulator. However, for corrective purposes I fail to see how this helps that much.
We need to ask ourselves whether growth problems are due to over production of growth inhibitor or underproduction of stimulant.
If I carry a genetic predisposition to produce less growth hormone than normal, is the answer to increase that production or reduce my ability to control my growth processes by paring down my inhibitor production to redress the imbalance?
My veiw on this is that the best way to solve the problem is liberal application of Ochams shaving device. How often have you trashed your installation because you wanted to upgrade too many components in one go? Right. Now pretend it's your unborn baby/ newborn child that needs "upgrading".
The ability to remove an inhibitor does not, in my opinion, provide the correct fix.
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So far everything I've read here has been about personal usage.
What about if you're a company and use CD-R's to backup and store data? Archiving off mailboxes of staff etc...
Now I may just be a thick Brit, but don't you guys have laws protecting the ability of a company to do thier business without hinderance?
A group like the RIAA would not be able to charge you extra for using goods they don't produce to perform your business how you wish.
Now, if this is right, what about freelancers? People who work from home? How could you tell the difference between buying for "personal use" and "business use"? Would you have to pay the tax anyway and claim it back somehow, including your company number or something?
I don't think this idea is at all workable, and would open up a huge can of worms if it went ahead.
I see Land Sharks rubbing thier hands in glee.
Chris.
It looks like NVIDIA have addressed the performance shortfall by releasing new drivers, the "Detonator 4" Drivers, which, according to Toms Hardware, give about a 30% performance increase, so ATI's performance gain has been slashed to about 3-5%, which, given the allowed variation in component quality in manufacturing, pretty much dissappears in the +/- percentile.
Of course, the card isn't finished yet, so these figures are all meaningless anyway.
Chris.
I would imagine this is the reason AMD have packed it in. The revenue stream from low end embedded x86 processors is likely to be significantly lower than if they used the facility to churn out top end chips while they have the ascendency in market share. Make hay while the sun shines, and all that. looking at www.amd.com reveals: http://www.amd.com/news/corppr/21111.html "When it announced first quarter results on April 18, AMD projected that second quarter sales could decline by as much as 10 percent. " OK, now where's the rot, and where's it not? "Today the company said that, despite continuing weak PC market conditions and very aggressive pricing by Intel Corporation, the company achieved record unit sales of AMD Athlon(TM) processors, record unit sales of AMD Duron(TM) processors, and record aggregate PC processor unit sales, demonstrating the breadth, strength and competitiveness of its PC processor product line." OK, It's not in the high end PC processor market, that's looking good... Let's skip a week ahead, in the actual Q2 reports: "Weakness in the communications and networking sectors continues to impact the company's foundry services and other IC products, and the company projects that these revenues will continue to decline in the third quarter." So it looks like they've decided to cut their losses here and apply the resources to making what's selling best, and grabbing the headlines. Chris.
It may well be possible, but in places like the UK where local calls are not free, a full ISO download would end up costing a lot of money. For instance, 6 days is 8640 minutes. Our cheapest local rate is 1p per minute and is usually about 3. So call it 2p per minute on average and that download costs me £172.80 in phone bill, as well as tying up my phone line. I don't tend to worry about boxed distros, I buy my disk sets from http://www.cheeplinux.com/ and reccomend them. You get all the CD's, no documentation (but that's what Google and Usenet are for) no need for long downloads (apart from getting updates once you've installed) and that costs me about £12.99 for a 6 CD set. I've just been given a boxed copy of SUSE 7.0 as a mate of mine has upgraded. I just need to be brave enough now to trash my Windows box that has taken me two years to set up to perfection. *sigh*. Chris.
It doesn't matter anyway, now that Microshaft are planning to stop you buying their software. You will only be able to rent it. Of course, when you rent a house you are entitled to a certain standard of housing and the landlord is culpable if any of the heating/washing machine/other specified amenities go wrong.
Essentially, if I rent a house that is in the contract as saying "With washing machine, toilet and central heating" then all of those things are the landlord's responsibility to keep running for me to a useable standard.
Unfortunately I doubt that Microshaft will pay for the fixing and damage caused by their software not living up to it's claims. And it'll be because you clicked on the "Yes I Agree" button without reading the EULA that says "You hereby give up your basic human rights" But illegal contracts are another issue altogether that I don't want to rant about here.
ObSecurity: Hell of a lot of security issues with Open Source s/w on VULN-DEV recently. I note that the responses from Open Source authors are a lot quicker than fom big companies. I guess this is because they don't have to worry about profits dropping if the news gets out.
Chris.
>>Since most people will notice a big chunk of pcb sticking out there processor. Interesting idea but it won't work for the following reason: The reason AMD has gained ground on Intel more than any other, is because companies like Mesh, protek, Simply, Time, Evesham, SSC and other big name direct sales kids, opted for AMD solutions instead of Intel. The majority of people that buy these systems are never going to look inside the case. They come as a ready set up package in the majority of instances, with all the hardware you want. People won't see the evidence. And if they did, if AMD "supported" overclocking, when the consumer complained and said "Oi, I paid 1500 currency units for a 950Mhz AMD Athlon and what i've got is actually a 700Mhz Athlon overclocked to 950, I'm not happy!" The retailer can say "hey, it's an Athlon, it's running at 950Mhz, AMD are cool with us doing this to their processors so tough doo doo!" AMD have to make sure that if someone pays for a 950Mhz processor, that's what they get. I, however, beleive that if I can sucessfully hack something to make it better for me, then I should be allowed to do it freely. I don't see how any clock locking mechanism cannot be circumvented by hardware hacking. I have seen an overclocked Mobo that was hacked to run at voltages it was not originally designed to support, hence a new CPU could be added without needing to upgrade the old Socket7 Mobo to a Super7. 'Course, the FSB was still limited to 66Mhz but that's another story. Chris.
I seem to have spotted your deliberate mistake. To run a CPU faster than it's standard rating you need to increase the clock multiplier, yes. However you also need to feed it extra energy to run faster, i.e. you have to up the voltage. Chris.
It occurs to me that what has been done here is to remove, in infancy, the manufacture of a growth regulator. However, for corrective purposes I fail to see how this helps that much.
We need to ask ourselves whether growth problems are due to over production of growth inhibitor or underproduction of stimulant.
If I carry a genetic predisposition to produce less growth hormone than normal, is the answer to increase that production or reduce my ability to control my growth processes by paring down my inhibitor production to redress the imbalance?
My veiw on this is that the best way to solve the problem is liberal application of Ochams shaving device. How often have you trashed your installation because you wanted to upgrade too many components in one go? Right. Now pretend it's your unborn baby/ newborn child that needs "upgrading".
The ability to remove an inhibitor does not, in my opinion, provide the correct fix.
Chris.