Is it just me or is everyone really short-sighted? We can record sound by connecting two wires. Until you develop a system which prevents that method of recording sound there is nothing... wait let me repeat myself... N..O..T..H..I..N..G.. the music industry can do about it! What do they not understand?
P.S. Introducing a law which makes it illegal to connect those two wires is a method of prevention.
Pinky: What are we going to do tomorrow night Brain?
You know, these people/groups/developers spend alot of time and effort writing this code. What will happen if they do not receive any reward for their contribution? Then the incentive to continue producing code wanes.
In a true community the people who receive benefit from other peoples work provide a service or benefit for that person in return. What are we, as the open source community, providing for those who write software for us?
Currently the system seems to be very similar to communism. This is not necessarily a bad thing but I would be very wary and aware of the impact of continued non-payment. I doubt that large professional software can be developed without financial support for those developing. Either the users support the developers of their own free will or traipse back down the road of copyright and consumerism.
Pinky: What are we going to do tomorrow night Brain?
Hmmm. I'm pretty sure there's no way of knowing what's at the end of a link without actually going to the destination. I just feel that it's not easy bringing up kids with a good (admittedly good by my definition) set of morals and ethics. I don't think they should be exposed to people shooting shit out of their asses or stuff like that. I do agree that when they're older with solid ideas of good and bad then they can decide what is suitable content.
Come to think of it, we're probably talking about different age groups here.
A great article to read. They examined the issue well and have identified the problem areas and I think they (Britain) are heading in the right direction.
The big question now is how the law is applied. The majority of patent opposition comes from the bad application of patent law to software. The patent office has no idea of the difference between "piece-of-piss" and "bloody innovative".
Law is made in the courts.
First of all, it's a lame idea that young people should be PROTECTED with software against data that is considered controversial or harmful and otherwise not be something you'd want to get caught in church with. It should be pretty obvious that this is not the way to raise your children
Excuse me but how are you going to stop your child from accessing, or accidentally finding, a porn site when you are at work and the child is at school? I completely agree that parents should take reponsibility for their kids at home and NOT rely on the government to bring up their child... BUT when the kids are at school they should not have access to adult material! It's like leaving a bunch of porn mags lying around the library!
If kids want to find stuff they will find it, whatever that may be, porn, drugs, guns, etc.
They can only find it if they have access to the material!
Most malls have a bookstore if not more than one. You can often find much more there than the library will give you access to, for example the bookstore at the new shopping mall in Memphis sells high times magazine and other stuff, and they could care less who reads what.
That's not a valid argument. Just because there is a way to obtain the material does not mean we should not at least try to prevent access via a new medium. If we all thought that way then we would never bother to fight against anything.
Concerned Citizen: Officer theres a bunch of kids selling drugs around that corner!
Polite Policeman: I wouldn't worry about it. If I bust them then the addicts will just find a new dealer.If kids want to find stuff they will find it, whatever that may be, porn, drugs, guns, etc.
Concerned Citizen: Oh Wow! I understand! I never thought of that! Thank you officer!
Look, the only reason I feel so strongly about this is because I know that children should not be exposed to this. Obviously you too have to decide if you want your children seeing, or even having the chance to see, stuff like that. So follow the link and decide people.
Lastly, there's one more important thing to understand about Sealand: they get their Internet connection from somewhere. Whether they've laid fiber-optic under the channel or they're using a two-way satellite transmission, they have to be connecting to somebody who's selling them the bandwidth. And that somebody is most likely located in a Berne Convention nation and/or a nation where the big five record companies do business. If they thought it necessary, the big five could sue to have the Internet connection to the Fairtunes OpenNap server blocked. They may not be able to get to the server, but they can ensure that nobody gets to it.
The original purpose of the internet (Well ARPANET) was for a distributed communications system. Sealand destroys that aim with just one connection.
What Nap wants is multiple connections which hit most of the major backbones and can be accessed by a plethora (WOW! Check that word out!) of routes. SeaLand is a waste of bloody time. I say CHINA!
They're well hard with ICBMs to boot! Lets see the US get their sticky fingers into China!
Napster should appeal to Saddam for asylum (i think that's the word). I'm pretty sure he'd do anything to piss the west off and what better way than destroying a billion dollar industry and rewriting international copyright laws in the process... he could also download some cool songs inbetween signing execution orders.
First off you've started that argument with a flawed statement and I quote..."Think of any disease you've had in your lifetime..."
Um, unfortunately enough the poor girl was DYING so maybe you should restate that as, "Think of any death you've had in your lifetime..." and as far as I can tell, chances are it doesn't make you a better person.
Next off you suddenly jump from an argument entitled: 'Lets choose a type of child to save someone else' to 'Lets abort this child'. Unh????!
I'm sorry mate but you've completely jumped tracks...in fact, you've stopped the train, shot the driver and blown up the rails.
Anyway! I'll take this chance to say that this technology is like every other technology....neither good or evil....it's the people that use the technology who are good or evil. It's been repeated throughout history...gunpowder, cannons, muskets, computers, rockets, planes, cars....and on and on...
I'm going to go and protest about our rights on the internet because they'll be using that power to abort children.
Yours,
D.
Hmmmm I think the server has been/.ed. There's probably a big hole in the ground where the potato powered server used to be. Could be useful as a weapon. I can see the headlines... "Slashdot most powerful weapon on the net!" "One server fried per day!" "Post a URL and watch the server fry!" Heh.
Don't you think it's kind of suprising how much pressure business come under to protect the privacy of it's customers and yet the privacy of it's employees (a company's second most valuable set of people) is tramped over roughshod. I think the problem stems from the laws governing employees/employer relationships. Maybe the government should "sell" laws. Thus a company could use one of a choice of laws and their choice of law would be defined by the employees likes or dislikes. You know...create a competetive market for laws which will benefit the consumers...the public. This is all getting a bit deep and I never studied politics. My head hurts.;-)
It could be possible that people are more aware of privacy online because of the speed of the internet. What I mean is that in the online community, if a person's details are released, alot of information/spam/ads etcetera are very rapidly sent in great quantity. The propogation of information is extremely quick compared to the offline community which could be why people are so much more aware of privacy issues. This is just a theory though. D. ----
Slashdot Mirror
I know! Every now and then I scour the web for "MIR video deorbit" or somesuch but all I get is that crappy video from Fiji!
Pinky: What are we going to do tomorrow night Brain?
Is it just me or is everyone really short-sighted? We can record sound by connecting two wires. Until you develop a system which prevents that method of recording sound there is nothing ... wait let me repeat myself... N..O..T..H..I..N..G.. the music industry can do about it! What do they not understand?
P.S. Introducing a law which makes it illegal to connect those two wires is a method of prevention.
Pinky: What are we going to do tomorrow night Brain?
You know, these people/groups/developers spend alot of time and effort writing this code. What will happen if they do not receive any reward for their contribution? Then the incentive to continue producing code wanes.
In a true community the people who receive benefit from other peoples work provide a service or benefit for that person in return. What are we, as the open source community, providing for those who write software for us?
Currently the system seems to be very similar to communism. This is not necessarily a bad thing but I would be very wary and aware of the impact of continued non-payment. I doubt that large professional software can be developed without financial support for those developing. Either the users support the developers of their own free will or traipse back down the road of copyright and consumerism.
Pinky: What are we going to do tomorrow night Brain?
I say Taco Bell must provide proof that MIR missed the target. I want video footage showing MIR missing the target.
Pinky: What are we going to do tomorrow night Brain?
Largest filespace!
Or does this seem strange...
Napster - A database of Song Names - ordered by the courts to remove the song names
GraceNote - A database of Song Names - helping Napster to remove the Song Names.
Hmmm. I'm pretty sure there's no way of knowing what's at the end of a link without actually going to the destination. I just feel that it's not easy bringing up kids with a good (admittedly good by my definition) set of morals and ethics. I don't think they should be exposed to people shooting shit out of their asses or stuff like that. I do agree that when they're older with solid ideas of good and bad then they can decide what is suitable content.
Come to think of it, we're probably talking about different age groups here.
Damn! Never knew that! Thanx.
A great article to read. They examined the issue well and have identified the problem areas and I think they (Britain) are heading in the right direction. The big question now is how the law is applied. The majority of patent opposition comes from the bad application of patent law to software. The patent office has no idea of the difference between "piece-of-piss" and "bloody innovative".
Law is made in the courts.
First of all, it's a lame idea that young people should be PROTECTED with software against data that is considered controversial or harmful and otherwise not be something you'd want to get caught in church with. It should be pretty obvious that this is not the way to raise your children
Excuse me but how are you going to stop your child from accessing, or accidentally finding, a porn site when you are at work and the child is at school? I completely agree that parents should take reponsibility for their kids at home and NOT rely on the government to bring up their child... BUT when the kids are at school they should not have access to adult material! It's like leaving a bunch of porn mags lying around the library!
If kids want to find stuff they will find it, whatever that may be, porn, drugs, guns, etc.
They can only find it if they have access to the material!
Most malls have a bookstore if not more than one. You can often find much more there than the library will give you access to, for example the bookstore at the new shopping mall in Memphis sells high times magazine and other stuff, and they could care less who reads what.
That's not a valid argument. Just because there is a way to obtain the material does not mean we should not at least try to prevent access via a new medium. If we all thought that way then we would never bother to fight against anything.
Concerned Citizen: Officer theres a bunch of kids selling drugs around that corner!
Polite Policeman: I wouldn't worry about it. If I bust them then the addicts will just find a new dealer.If kids want to find stuff they will find it, whatever that may be, porn, drugs, guns, etc.
Concerned Citizen: Oh Wow! I understand! I never thought of that! Thank you officer!
Look, the only reason I feel so strongly about this is because I know that children should not be exposed to this. Obviously you too have to decide if you want your children seeing, or even having the chance to see, stuff like that. So follow the link and decide people.
That would make a good survey.
Lastly, there's one more important thing to understand about Sealand: they get their Internet connection from somewhere. Whether they've laid fiber-optic under the channel or they're using a two-way satellite transmission, they have to be connecting to somebody who's selling them the bandwidth. And that somebody is most likely located in a Berne Convention nation and/or a nation where the big five record companies do business. If they thought it necessary, the big five could sue to have the Internet connection to the Fairtunes OpenNap server blocked. They may not be able to get to the server, but they can ensure that nobody gets to it.
The original purpose of the internet (Well ARPANET) was for a distributed communications system. Sealand destroys that aim with just one connection.
What Nap wants is multiple connections which hit most of the major backbones and can be accessed by a plethora (WOW! Check that word out!) of routes. SeaLand is a waste of bloody time. I say CHINA!
They're well hard with ICBMs to boot! Lets see the US get their sticky fingers into China!
Napster should appeal to Saddam for asylum (i think that's the word). I'm pretty sure he'd do anything to piss the west off and what better way than destroying a billion dollar industry and rewriting international copyright laws in the process... he could also download some cool songs inbetween signing execution orders.
It might fly in the face of 100 years of history but that doesn't mean
a) it's wrong
b) it won't work.
My ten cents.
First off you've started that argument with a flawed statement and I quote..."Think of any disease you've had in your lifetime..." Um, unfortunately enough the poor girl was DYING so maybe you should restate that as, "Think of any death you've had in your lifetime..." and as far as I can tell, chances are it doesn't make you a better person.
Next off you suddenly jump from an argument entitled:
'Lets choose a type of child to save someone else'
to 'Lets abort this child'.
Unh????! I'm sorry mate but you've completely jumped tracks...in fact, you've stopped the train, shot the driver and blown up the rails.
Anyway! I'll take this chance to say that this technology is like every other technology....neither good or evil....it's the people that use the technology who are good or evil. It's been repeated throughout history...gunpowder, cannons, muskets, computers, rockets, planes, cars....and on and on... I'm going to go and protest about our rights on the internet because they'll be using that power to abort children. Yours, D.
Hmmmm I think the server has been /.ed. There's probably a big hole in the ground where the potato powered server used to be. Could be useful as a weapon. I can see the headlines... "Slashdot most powerful weapon on the net!" "One server fried per day!" "Post a URL and watch the server fry!" Heh.
Don't you think it's kind of suprising how much pressure business come under to protect the privacy of it's customers and yet the privacy of it's employees (a company's second most valuable set of people) is tramped over roughshod. I think the problem stems from the laws governing employees/employer relationships. Maybe the government should "sell" laws. Thus a company could use one of a choice of laws and their choice of law would be defined by the employees likes or dislikes. You know...create a competetive market for laws which will benefit the consumers...the public. This is all getting a bit deep and I never studied politics. My head hurts. ;-)
It could be possible that people are more aware of privacy online because of the speed of the internet. What I mean is that in the online community, if a person's details are released, alot of information/spam/ads etcetera are very rapidly sent in great quantity. The propogation of information is extremely quick compared to the offline community which could be why people are so much more aware of privacy issues. This is just a theory though. D. ----
Whoops. I'd better start burning my documents.