Does it constitute a valid EULA as per applicable law? If so, in which jurisdictions? If I don't agree to the license, can I return the prodict? Etc.
BTW I can't find anything like that on my books, as well as on CDs (I already said this). The blurb on my VHS tapes only restates portions of (US) copyright law. There's no license to agree to.
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There are computers that were designed for kids and the like, and work for them. These are called game consoles.
OK, unix is evolving. Good. Do you want it evolve more to meet the needs of today's scientists, or more to meet the needs of today's PHBs? I would be happy if it evolves equally well in both directions, I just doubt it can happen. Not enough resources on this planet. --
Oh yes. I know a few such IT managers too. I don't think I owe them something. I just don't think they need help more than anyone else.
Ask yourself: how many games did computers in general (mainframes, VAXen etc) have before they became general productivity tools? A bit less than Windows. Surprise: the games/computer ratio grows. --
What I don't buy is the idea of a word processor and a spreadsheet as adequate tools for producing engineering documentation. They are to write letters, and to balance checkbooks.
Are you saying you can achieve any non-trivial degree of office automation with MS Office? What does it give you that simpler tools can't (except for better ways to communicate with non-engineering departments of your organization)?
I'd really like to hear your answer to compare it with my own reservations about this office automation thingy:) --
Listen carefully. I'm talking about my government, not yours. I'm talking about what my government is, not what I'd like it to be. And you have absolutely no idea whatsoever about the system I live in, or how well I comprehend it. --
From what I read on the 'net, American and British governments are extremely useful, efficient, and friendly organizations, compared to what we're forced to live with. Ours indeed does several hundred useful things, along with several thousand useless and dangerous ones. Let me repeat: may it rot in hell. --
I took a brief look at DocBook. Looks very nice, but it's by no means a TeX replacement (closer to a LaTeX replacement but without the ability to go really low-level). --
First, I'd like to notice that I don't use Linux. I use commercial Unices at work (and sometimes NT, because, well, I have to). I have a Linux (dual-boot, actually) machine at home, but I don't remember when I've used it last time. My kids are happy to boot either OS.
I don't believe in Linux being a status symbol. Heck, its installation was easier for me than that of WinXX! And I find KDE more "user-friendly" than MS desktop.
Second, I don't mind fighting MS monopoly, I just don't believe that an office suite is the best weapon in this fight. --
MathML's only a replacement for *TeX's formula-writing capabilities. I don't think one can write a book with index, TOC, cross-references and the like using only MathML. --
I don't need a WP to comment my code, or to put working docs in HTML on the internal Web. End-user docs are different matter, but those are handled by technical writers, not programmers. --
I'm a real programmer for the last 10 years of my life, thank you very much. I've used a WP once or twice for work-related stuff.
I'd love to see a modern replacement for *TeX which, though works well and is supposedly bug-free, is awfully antiquated. I prefer to write my documents as source code, just not in a moral equivalent of Turing machine (raw TeX) or PL/1 (LaTeX). --
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And nowadays he would live long and die rich, thanks to copyright protection.
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The actual links of interest are
c gi?dbname=2000_register&docid=00-14001-fil ed or
c gi?dbname=2000_register&docid=00-14001-fil ed.pdf
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http://frwebgate.access.gpo.gov/cgi-bin/getdoc.
http://frwebgate.access.gpo.gov/cgi-bin/getdoc.
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Not that I imply that gpo.gov should be trusted more than goatse.cx.
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Yep. Here.
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"2D sucks, 3DCGI is the way to go" == "painting sucks, sculpture is the way to go"
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http://www.google.com/search?q=the+one+true+geek+s earch+engine&btnI=I%27m+Feeling+Luc ky
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BTW I can't find anything like that on my books, as well as on CDs (I already said this). The blurb on my VHS tapes only restates portions of (US) copyright law. There's no license to agree to.
If you have a DVD handy, please post the exact text of this so-called "license" (I hope it isn't copyrighted :)
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When Stephen King released his book he himself couldn't read it because he's a Mac user. Go figure.
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Is there an EULA printed on a DVD cover? I doubt it. I don't own a DVD but on CDs I own there's no such thing.
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I didn't mean to ridicule anybody's typing skills. I just want a spellchecker inside Netscape's textarea, that's it.
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OK, unix is evolving. Good. Do you want it evolve more to meet the needs of today's scientists, or more to meet the needs of today's PHBs? I would be happy if it evolves equally well in both directions, I just doubt it can happen. Not enough resources on this planet.
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Ask yourself: how many games did computers in general (mainframes, VAXen etc) have before they became general productivity tools? A bit less than Windows. Surprise: the games/computer ratio grows.
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Yes, you are right. Schoolteachers deserve the best.
So, I say: yes, let's design a helluva office suite, only because schoolteachers need it, and I'm dead serious here.
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Damn, Netscape's textarea can handle anybody's text needs! If only it had a spell-checker to notice the wrod.
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What I don't buy is the idea of a word processor and a spreadsheet as adequate tools for producing engineering documentation. They are to write letters, and to balance checkbooks.
Are you saying you can achieve any non-trivial degree of office automation with MS Office? What does it give you that simpler tools can't (except for better ways to communicate with non-engineering departments of your organization)?
I'd really like to hear your answer to compare it with my own reservations about this office automation thingy :)
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Point taken, but this subthread got soooooo offtopic I propose putting it to rest.
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Listen carefully. I'm talking about my government, not yours. I'm talking about what my government is, not what I'd like it to be. And you have absolutely no idea whatsoever about the system I live in, or how well I comprehend it.
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From what I read on the 'net, American and British governments are extremely useful, efficient, and friendly organizations, compared to what we're forced to live with. Ours indeed does several hundred useful things, along with several thousand useless and dangerous ones. Let me repeat: may it rot in hell.
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An office suite is a welcome addition. But it's only a welcome addition. It is in my wish-list, just not at the top (and nowhere close).
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And what we've learned? Inquiring minds want to know :)
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I took a brief look at DocBook. Looks very nice, but it's by no means a TeX replacement (closer to a LaTeX replacement but without the ability to go really low-level).
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I don't believe in Linux being a status symbol. Heck, its installation was easier for me than that of WinXX! And I find KDE more "user-friendly" than MS desktop.
Second, I don't mind fighting MS monopoly, I just don't believe that an office suite is the best weapon in this fight.
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MathML's only a replacement for *TeX's formula-writing capabilities. I don't think one can write a book with index, TOC, cross-references and the like using only MathML.
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I don't need a WP to comment my code, or to put working docs in HTML on the internal Web. End-user docs are different matter, but those are handled by technical writers, not programmers.
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That'd be a moral equivalent of an assembly language I believe :)
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I'd love to see a modern replacement for *TeX which, though works well and is supposedly bug-free, is awfully antiquated. I prefer to write my documents as source code, just not in a moral equivalent of Turing machine (raw TeX) or PL/1 (LaTeX).
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