Why the hell didn't anyone ever build deathmatch pinball machines? I mean, if airhockey was popular, why not that? That was one of the coolest console games of its time.
Actually, there were a few of these made. Here's some links:
The plot was painful and the ending simply absurd. Which is more unlikely, Cruise's nutty aerobatic fighting style, or an EMPEROR challenging a SLAVE to a duel?!?!?
Actually, I read in Newsweek that the real-life Comodus (whose name was different, can't remember the spelling now) _did_ actually fight in the Collesium, but never against anything as dangerous as an armed man:-)
The brief article listed several other historical problems with the movie, but I don't think they mentioned the tech related stuff.
And then if you're willing to suspend disbelief enough for MI:2, might I suggest going to see Battlefield: Earth? You'll be treated to the sight of cavemen learning how to fly Harrier jets in less than seven days. Not to mention 1000 year old harriers still functioning perfectly:-)
I figured if people who don't know what they are doing can make good money telling people how to run their shops, think of what someone who does know something could make.:-)
I thought we had already determined that damage to the system isn't nearly as harmful as damage to the user's data files. And since a user ALWAYS has access to their own data files the effect on most non-sysadmin-level unix users would be absolutely the same should something like this be targeted at the linux community.
I've been preaching the "No Attachment" message to my users for three years now and they still think I'm an idoit ("But how will we share files?")
Maybe not impossible, but, I haven't seen an email prog for Linux yet that makes an attachment executable by default.. So, there are a lot more steps there, right? I have to save it, chmod it, then run it.. I would hope that the majority of people would also take the second or 2 to cat the file and see if it does anything first. I know that if I see one that I don't know exactly what it's doing, I'm not running it. Now you may argue that an email prog will come out that will do that very thing, but, like the article stated, I have a choice, no company will "force" something onto my Linux machine that will allow this vulnerability...
So Microsoft will change Outlook (they already have actually) to force you to save the attachment to disk before executing it. How many PHBs and their secretaries are actually going to try to understand what a script does before running it? "No trust me, it starts up Elf Bowling, it's the coolest game you ever seen"
Again, the reason this hasn't happened for the Linux crowd is saturation. Right now only clueful people use Linux as their desktop. If the plans for world domination succeed, then that will change.
Whereas Outlook Express/2000/98/99/etc is more or less a "standard" in any corporate setting right now. The scary part about Outlook (as has been mentioned by many posters) is that you are not warned about it. In fact, I received an email shortly after the loveyou worm that scared the crap out of me, until I realized that it was one of our IS guys making a point. No attachment, reread that, no attachment, double click the message, popped up a message box, not an email, but a message box, basically saying it could have been a lot worse than it was.
Ah, but that means you are running software without the latest security patches applied. And that's a no-no no matter what OS you use:-)
There have been _NO_ reported incidences of the loveletter worm functioning without someone double-clicking the attachment.
The problem isn't outlook, it's market penetration >50%
If you installed a standard linux desktop on 50% of the computers around the world, someone would write a script that does the exact same thing, only they'd have even more languages to choose from:
These things only affect people who run as superusers, ie., if you are a user on a multiuser system, it can't mess up your computer because your accound doesn't have the priveledges
So... you are saying it's impossible to write an sh script that looks up email addresses (in say, oh pine or elm) and sends a copy of itself to those people.
Yeah sure, whatever. I think the reason it hasn't happened is that there's not enough market penetration of the scripting language. vbs scripting is everywhere.
Since the FAQ I quoted earlier says "You should physically posess each CD that you transfer to the PJB-100, or have rights to the material you download from the Internet" and you can't really rip something from the internet I think it's safe to say "No, you don't have to re-rip your CD's"
(If it's firmware I can't imagine the firmware staying un-hacked for long to remove it as it's the biggest "suck" feature on this box.)
Why does this suck so bad? if this is the way a company avoids lawsuits from the RIAA then more power to them. This device is made for playback purposes. It's like complaining that your walkman can't record.
Note: I still think the RIAA is evil, but I want cool toys and I'm not willing to wait until someone manages to knock them down for a decent MP3 player...
If you're considering purchasing the PJB, you may want to wait on Creative's Nomad Jukebox. Not only will it store a more music (6GB), it costs a couple hundred less, has some very interesting add-ons coming out (transmit music to your car's FM radio), and looks a hell of a lot cooler.
On the other hand, the Nomad has significantly shorter battery life, perhaps because it has only 8MB of RAM to buffer with.
Why oh why don't these companies just put 32MB of RAM in these things?
Can you use Wrapster to make this thing double as a backup device? Or will it choke on the bogus mp3s and prevent you from listening to the actual music you, umm, ripped from your cd collection?
From the FAQ:
Q: I want to copy the MP3s from my PJB-100 back to my PC. How do I do that?
A: You cannot. To ensure that the PJB-100 complies with the Audio Home Recording Act (AHRA), It is not possible to retrieve the MP3 files from the PJB-100. You should physically posess each CD that you transfer to the PJB-100, or have rights to the material you download from the Internet.
I always thought of a backdoor as something that was intentionally left there by the developers to get in--as was the case with the "netscape engineers are weenies" backdoor that Microsoft developers put into their software.
Damn this ticks me off.
You didn't even follow the IIS security issue did you? The phrase you use is NOT A FREAKING BACKDOOR. It's a keyphrase used to encode file names as they are transferred betwen client and server.
Or you could grab a copy of wget and write the following in perl (whatever happened to reduce, reuse, recycle?:-) Note that this is written for registered users, thus the username and password fields.
I'm surprised that anyone would suggest Mr. Allen would be selling his stock because he is afraid of it's devaluation. Aside from his Microsoft stock he own's several highly profitable ventures including the Portland Trailblazers and Seattle Seahawks. His income from alternative sources other than MS stock are such that there is little chance he would really care in a strictly financial sense.
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The last sentence in this story makes me want to puke.
Agreed. it's akin to saying "No word yet on whether Paul Allen really did kill 80 people in a barrom fight eight years ago."
Slashdot take note: the stuff you print in the story blurbs is Journalism. The example cited is Yellow.
That is, whatever usually passes for "sanity" at/..
The question is, is someone orchestrating this, or is it merely the natural outcome of contrasting lifestyles?
All the MSFT supporters would probably just go away if Slashdot was subtitled "News for Linux-users"
But, not really surprisingly when you think about it, a large number of "Nerds" actually have to use Windows on a regular basis. And a number of them actually think there's some merit to Microsoft software.
So why would a large portion of slashdot readers get upset by continuously reading inflamatory posts about Microsoft? Beats me:-)
Yeah, except that when you want and embedded browser WINCE doesn't have one, and their old Linux based Winterms did. Oh, and it had ICA too, oh and it actaully WORKED!
Since when does WinCE lack a browser? Last time I checked PocketIE shipped on every WinCe device I'd ever seen.
This isn't ln -s, it isn't really hard links either.
This is part of the whole initiative to get rid of shared libraries that Microsoft is taking on (remember the ability to clobber one program by removing a part of another?)
The trouble with locating all the libraries in different places is that you eat an enormous amount of disk space.
Yeah, you could do something similar with ln -s but it becomes a very manual process: Am I the first copy of the code? Am I a bit-for-bit duplicate of existing code? While these things could be done with a few lines of code under _ANY_ OS (not just linux) incorporating into the OS creates a _standard_ way for it to take place, even for code that has already been written.
Yeah, sure Micros~1 sux0rs, and the marketing machine is in full tilt, but why does your undying hated of this company cloud your reasoning so much? Maybe I'm just wrong in assuming that since this is slashdot, the majority of readers are intelligent?
...and then there should be a contest to write the best bot that can imitate a teenage male pretending to be a buxomy blonde with large brea^G^G^G^Geyes.
shouldn't that be ^H^H^H^H?
The way you have it there would be bells going off somewhere:-)
The final version of win2k is out to those who have managed to get their hands on it. A friend of mine actually managed to get a copy. This is not a development copy this is the real thing. its just not for sale yet. so the only way to get it is to work for microsoft, have microsoft send it to you, or some illegall means.
Bull. The final version is available for Microsoft Select License customers (I know, I am one). It (well, the three versions that are out) came in the January Edition.
Since I'm writing this three days after posting no one will read this anyway, so: Why does Slashdot bash MS so damned much? It's an OS guys, it's an OS that a lot of us nerds (remember "news for nerds?") work with every day. And most of us found out about this security hole on Thursday, so the only point of this story seems to be (in your best Simpson's bully voice) "Nyah hah! your OS sucks..."
maybe I'll just read Ars from now on, where they can report on all OS's without sniping...
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Why the hell didn't anyone ever build deathmatch pinball machines? I mean, if airhockey was popular, why not that? That was one of the coolest console games of its time.
:-)
Actually, there were a few of these made. Here's some links:
Joust by Williams
U SA Football by Alvin G.
I'm sure there were some others, but these are enough to make you drool
Why do you call it a virus when it's obviously a trojan?
:-)
Answer: not everyone is 100% clued in about everything... yet we get along
The plot was painful and the ending simply absurd. Which is more unlikely, Cruise's nutty aerobatic fighting style, or an EMPEROR challenging a SLAVE to a duel?!?!?
:-)
:-)
Actually, I read in Newsweek that the real-life Comodus (whose name was different, can't remember the spelling now) _did_ actually fight in the Collesium, but never against anything as dangerous as an armed man
The brief article listed several other historical problems with the movie, but I don't think they mentioned the tech related stuff.
And then if you're willing to suspend disbelief enough for MI:2, might I suggest going to see Battlefield: Earth? You'll be treated to the sight of cavemen learning how to fly Harrier jets in less than seven days. Not to mention 1000 year old harriers still functioning perfectly
Those who can, do; those who can't, consult.
:-)
funny, that's why I just got into consulting...
I figured if people who don't know what they are doing can make good money telling people how to run their shops, think of what someone who does know something could make.
Receptionists/security chimps sit in a bulletproof enclosure
:-)
When I was touring the same facility they had the coolest metric for that enclosure: 90-minute riot glass.
Appearantly the average person (who is that, anyway?) could beat on it with a sledgehammer for 90 minutes before getting through
I thought we had already determined that damage to the system isn't nearly as harmful as damage to the user's data files. And since a user ALWAYS has access to their own data files the effect on most non-sysadmin-level unix users would be absolutely the same should something like this be targeted at the linux community.
I've been preaching the "No Attachment" message to my users for three years now and they still think I'm an idoit ("But how will we share files?")
Maybe not impossible, but, I haven't seen an email prog for Linux yet that makes an attachment executable by default..
:-)
So, there are a lot more steps there, right? I have to save it, chmod it, then run it.. I would hope that the majority of people would also take the second or 2 to cat the file and see if it does anything first. I know that if I see one that I don't know exactly what it's doing, I'm not running it.
Now you may argue that an email prog will come out that will do that very thing, but, like the article stated, I have a choice, no company will "force" something onto my Linux machine that will allow this vulnerability...
So Microsoft will change Outlook (they already have actually) to force you to save the attachment to disk before executing it. How many PHBs and their secretaries are actually going to try to understand what a script does before running it? "No trust me, it starts up Elf Bowling, it's the coolest game you ever seen"
Again, the reason this hasn't happened for the Linux crowd is saturation. Right now only clueful people use Linux as their desktop. If the plans for world domination succeed, then that will change.
Whereas Outlook Express/2000/98/99/etc is more or less a "standard" in any corporate setting right now. The scary part about Outlook (as has been mentioned by many posters) is that you are not warned about it. In fact, I received an email shortly after the loveyou worm that scared the crap out of me, until I realized that it was one of our IS guys making a point. No attachment, reread that, no attachment, double click the message, popped up a message box, not an email, but a message box, basically saying it could have been a lot worse than it was.
Ah, but that means you are running software without the latest security patches applied. And that's a no-no no matter what OS you use
There have been _NO_ reported incidences of the loveletter worm functioning without someone double-clicking the attachment.
The problem isn't outlook, it's market penetration >50%
If you installed a standard linux desktop on 50% of the computers around the world, someone would write a script that does the exact same thing, only they'd have even more languages to choose from:
csh, ksh, sh, perl
These things only affect people who run as superusers, ie., if you are a user on a multiuser system, it can't mess up your computer because your accound doesn't have the priveledges
So... you are saying it's impossible to write an sh script that looks up email addresses (in say, oh pine or elm) and sends a copy of itself to those people.
Yeah sure, whatever. I think the reason it hasn't happened is that there's not enough market penetration of the scripting language. vbs scripting is everywhere.
Since the FAQ I quoted earlier says "You should physically posess each CD that you transfer to the PJB-100, or have rights to the material you download from the Internet" and you can't really rip something from the internet I think it's safe to say "No, you don't have to re-rip your CD's"
It just does a file transfer over the USB port
(If it's firmware I can't imagine the firmware staying un-hacked for long to remove it as it's the biggest "suck" feature on this box.)
Why does this suck so bad? if this is the way a company avoids lawsuits from the RIAA then more power to them. This device is made for playback purposes. It's like complaining that your walkman can't record.
Note: I still think the RIAA is evil, but I want cool toys and I'm not willing to wait until someone manages to knock them down for a decent MP3 player...
If you're considering purchasing the PJB, you may want to wait on Creative's Nomad Jukebox. Not only will it store a more music (6GB), it costs a couple hundred less, has some very interesting add-ons coming out (transmit music to your car's FM radio), and looks a hell of a lot cooler.
On the other hand, the Nomad has significantly shorter battery life, perhaps because it has only 8MB of RAM to buffer with.
Why oh why don't these companies just put 32MB of RAM in these things?
sigh
Can you use Wrapster to make this thing double as a backup device? Or will it choke on the bogus mp3s and prevent you from listening to the actual music you, umm, ripped from your cd collection?
From the FAQ:
Q: I want to copy the MP3s from my PJB-100 back to my PC. How do I do that?
A: You cannot. To ensure that the PJB-100 complies with the Audio Home Recording Act (AHRA), It is not possible to retrieve the MP3 files from the PJB-100. You should physically posess each CD that you transfer to the PJB-100, or have rights to the material you download from the Internet.
I always thought of a backdoor as something that was intentionally left there by the developers to get in--as was the case with the "netscape engineers are weenies" backdoor that Microsoft developers put into their software.
Damn this ticks me off.
You didn't even follow the IIS security issue did you? The phrase you use is NOT A FREAKING BACKDOOR. It's a keyphrase used to encode file names as they are transferred betwen client and server.
Or you could grab a copy of wget and write the following in perl (whatever happened to reduce, reuse, recycle? :-) Note that this is written for registered users, thus the username and password fields.
$output = qx( "wget --http-user=username --http-passwd=passwd http://www.jennicam.org/~jenni/livecam/cam.jpg");
($MINUTE, $HOUR, $DAY, $MONTH, $YEAR) = (localtime)[1, 2, 3, 4, 5];
$MONTH = $MONTH +1;
$YEAR = $YEAR + 1900;
if ( $MONTH < 10 ) {$MONTH = "0" . $MONTH};
if ( $DAY < 10 ) {$DAY = "0" . $DAY};
if ( $HOUR < 10 ) {$HOUR = "0" . $HOUR};
if ( $MINUTE < 10 ) {$MINUTE = "0" . $MINUTE};
$TIME = $YEAR . "-" . $MONTH . "-" . $DAY . "-" . $HOUR . $MINUTE;
if ($HOUR < 6) {$SEG = "0-Midnight\-to\-6AM"};
if (($HOUR > 5) && ($HOUR < 12)) {$SEG = "1-6AM\-to\-Noon"};
if (($HOUR > 11) && ($HOUR < 18)) {$SEG = "2-Noon\-to\-6PM"};
if ($HOUR > 17) {$SEG = "3-6PM\-to\-Midnight"};
$DATE = $YEAR . "-" . $MONTH . "-" . $DAY . "-" . $SEG;
$output = qx( "md $DATE");
$output = qx( "copy cam.jpg $DATE\\Jenni-$TIME.jpg");
$output = qx( "del cam.jpg ");
sleep(59);
I also wrote some simple perl to create index pages for it, but you can probably do that on your own.
"No word as to whether Allen was selling his toys because of the sudden devaluation of his MS stock"
/. is the ultimate journalistic joke - Rob, you should be embarrased. /. I've got a new name for you all -
Give me a break.
"The Linux Enquirer - all the crap that's fit to print."
The above is NOT flamebait, despite what some moderator thought. It is a legitimate comment on the objectivity of Slashdot's stories.
"No word as to whether RobLimo was continuing to run Slashdot to support his $30,000 / month hardware habit."
I'm surprised that anyone would suggest Mr. Allen would be selling his stock because he is afraid of it's devaluation. Aside from his Microsoft stock he own's several highly profitable ventures including the Portland Trailblazers and Seattle Seahawks. His income from alternative sources other than MS stock are such that there is little chance he would really care in a strictly financial sense.
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The last sentence in this story makes me want to puke.
Agreed. it's akin to saying "No word yet on whether Paul Allen really did kill 80 people in a barrom fight eight years ago."
Slashdot take note: the stuff you print in the story blurbs is Journalism. The example cited is Yellow.
That is, whatever usually passes for "sanity" at /..
:-)
The question is, is someone orchestrating this, or is it merely the natural outcome of contrasting lifestyles?
All the MSFT supporters would probably just go away if Slashdot was subtitled "News for Linux-users"
But, not really surprisingly when you think about it, a large number of "Nerds" actually have to use Windows on a regular basis. And a number of them actually think there's some merit to Microsoft software.
So why would a large portion of slashdot readers get upset by continuously reading inflamatory posts about Microsoft? Beats me
Yeah, except that when you want and embedded browser WINCE doesn't have one, and their old Linux based Winterms did. Oh, and it had ICA too, oh and it actaully WORKED!
Since when does WinCE lack a browser? Last time I checked PocketIE shipped on every WinCe device I'd ever seen.
How many of you people actually read the article?
This isn't ln -s, it isn't really hard links either.
This is part of the whole initiative to get rid of shared libraries that Microsoft is taking on (remember the ability to clobber one program by removing a part of another?)
The trouble with locating all the libraries in different places is that you eat an enormous amount of disk space.
Yeah, you could do something similar with ln -s but it becomes a very manual process: Am I the first copy of the code? Am I a bit-for-bit duplicate of existing code? While these things could be done with a few lines of code under _ANY_ OS (not just linux) incorporating into the OS creates a _standard_ way for it to take place, even for code that has already been written.
Yeah, sure Micros~1 sux0rs, and the marketing machine is in full tilt, but why does your undying hated of this company cloud your reasoning so much? Maybe I'm just wrong in assuming that since this is slashdot, the majority of readers are intelligent?
whatever.
Strange you could misspell Bruno, since it's such a common word. In italian, it means "brown heared".
Heh.
Strange you could misspell "haired," since it's such a common word.
:-)
So this news is, in fact, 11 years old.
:-)
That actually helps explain why the page reads like a propaganda page (a la some of the anti-hassidic, anti-abortion pages)
I'm not saying that the page is hate speech, just that the design is poor
...and then there should be a contest to write the best bot that can imitate a teenage male pretending to be a buxomy blonde with large brea^G^G^G^Geyes.
:-)
shouldn't that be ^H^H^H^H?
The way you have it there would be bells going off somewhere
Then throw out the business plan :-)
Avoid VC and go for private investments. Don't undervalue the company if you have to seek investments.
The final version of win2k is out to those who have managed to get their hands on it. A friend of mine actually managed to get a copy. This is not a development copy this is the real thing. its just not for sale yet. so the only way to get it is to work for microsoft, have microsoft send it to you, or some illegall means.
Bull. The final version is available for Microsoft Select License customers (I know, I am one). It (well, the three versions that are out) came in the January Edition.
Since I'm writing this three days after posting no one will read this anyway, so: Why does Slashdot bash MS so damned much? It's an OS guys, it's an OS that a lot of us nerds (remember "news for nerds?") work with every day. And most of us found out about this security hole on Thursday, so the only point of this story seems to be (in your best Simpson's bully voice) "Nyah hah! your OS sucks..."
maybe I'll just read Ars from now on, where they can report on all OS's without sniping...