You body is a bag of water made of billions of bags of water: they will burst on contact with the vacuum of Mars.
Citation needed.
Wikipedia:
The atmospheric pressure on the Martian surface averages 600 pascals, about 0.6% of Earth's mean sea level pressure of 101.3 kilopascals. This pressure is well below the Armstrong limit for the unprotected human body.
The Armstrong limit, is the altitude that produces an atmospheric pressure so low (6.3 kPa) that water boils at the normal temperature of the human body: 37 C
But because Systemd offers tantalizing APIs to program developers, it can rapidly become that a program update refuse to function unless it has Systemd and its sub-systems running.
Systemd is insidious at its core.
So your argument against systemd is that it is useful.
Some people are complaining about dependancies on systemd-libs, claiming that merely having Poetterings code on their hard disk will somehow cause them problems.
If upstream make their package depend on systemd then either that dependancy isn't needed, in which case just remove it, or is needed for some feature, in which case the user would have to install systemd whether it was the default or not.
Or the people who don't want systemd could implement the same feature in sysvinit or upstart.
Joey Hess was working with other Debian developpers to do this, and has quit the project because of what he sees as the toxic behaviour of the people who insist on making this a political decision, imposed by non-developpers, rather than a technical one.
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Can be done.
Need some pretty horrible hormone treatment though.
You body is a bag of water made of billions of bags of water: they will burst on contact with the vacuum of Mars.
Citation needed.
Wikipedia:
The atmospheric pressure on the Martian surface averages 600 pascals, about 0.6% of Earth's mean sea level pressure of 101.3 kilopascals. This pressure is well below the Armstrong limit for the unprotected human body.
The Armstrong limit, is the altitude that produces an atmospheric pressure so low (6.3 kPa) that water boils at the normal temperature of the human body: 37 C
That is exactly not what that message says. He starts:
Important disclaimer: I am now stating the de-facto situation, not the
situation I wish for.
and continues:
GTK 3 at this point really is just the GNOME toolkit. There is absolutely zero
involvement from anyone else.
He's complaining that nobody else helps develop GTK, not saying that GNOME doesn't want other people to use GTK.
political freedom for starters.
One thing you can be sure of about any colony in space.
No political freedom.
I've lived in parts of the world where white guys aren't the majority.
I have even more privilege than when living in parts of the world where most guys are white.
Because somebody or something has to start the syslogd too.
What the fuck is the relevance of that? syslogd gets started by magic in sysvinit?
You naive people do not even grasp how deep that jar or worms, known as the boot process, goes...
Wise men of old wrote it in shell for lots and lots of good reasons.
I may be naïve but I've been debugging problems in the sysv boot process since 1994.
Haha, the random quote is:
For every problem there is one solution which is simple, neat, and wrong. -- H. L. Mencken
Men are harassed in Law (did you know that men are not considered guardians of their own legitimate offspring in England?),
What do you mean by "guardian"? Are you talking about custody?
men are harassed in the workplace (some jobs you can't get if you have a penis - simply because you have a penis),
Name one.
The right to make rape threats is more important than the right to not receive rape threats?
Are you sure?
99% of "doxing" is straight white males so in this case.. yeah.
They're being "doxed" for being straight while males?
Of course white males are a minority, I know how to count.
But you missed the word between "males" and "minority".
If you think "straight white males" are oppressed you are delusional.
Made painfully clear to anyone who has witnessed Chinese racists.
The point about racism is power. Do those Chinese racists have power over you? No. So you are not being oppressed.
Yup, straight white males -- the oprressed minority.
Not.
Made from one piece of stone.
Hardly even need to look it up.
Thanks. I see it's fixed now.
Systemd will forward to syslogd if you want it to so you can still use your standard tools to view the logs if you want.
Not an answer.
Why not?
But because Systemd offers tantalizing APIs to program developers, it can rapidly become that a program update refuse to function unless it has Systemd and its sub-systems running.
Systemd is insidious at its core.
So your argument against systemd is that it is useful.
Interesting.
So now you're claiming that systemd depends on Gnome?
Get a grip.
cat /dev/zero >/dev/mem
I don't believe it -- Joey Hess believes it.
That's what he has written.
You can deny that if you want, but it is reality.
The people are objecting to package dependencies.
Some people are complaining about dependancies on systemd-libs, claiming that merely having Poetterings code on their hard disk will somehow cause them problems.
If upstream make their package depend on systemd then either that dependancy isn't needed, in which case just remove it, or is needed for some feature, in which case the user would have to install systemd whether it was the default or not.
Or the people who don't want systemd could implement the same feature in sysvinit or upstart.
Joey Hess was working with other Debian developpers to do this, and has quit the project because of what he sees as the toxic behaviour of the people who insist on making this a political decision, imposed by non-developpers, rather than a technical one.
You made a "serious" (if stupid) reply to a joke comment.
Woosh.
(You run gimp on 200-500Mb servers? Brave man).
Why?
many administrators of Linux installations do not want any of Poettering's libs installed at all.
Insane.
root can crash linux, shock horror.
Film at 11.
Whats the bug report number?
That being said I think diversity will be good. I hope the Debian non-systemd fork exists then everyone can stop freaking out.
The Debian non-systemd fork is called Debian. systemd is the default. It, unlike sysvinit used to be, is not marked "essential"