Still it would have been cheaper not to have gotten involved in that war to begin with. One big mistake done back then was to consider all communist nations to be allied with each other when in fact the Sino-Soviet split had already happened.
And Vietnam was on the soviet side, not the Chinese side.
On Debian Sid, using WINE, on a VAIO Z2, using DRI_PRIME to get the 3D graphics running on the PMD's ATI card while everything else runs on the built-in Intel Graphics, sound coming over HDMI.
As I said, I have no idea how the frensh run their nuclear plants. Nevertheless you demand links and fail to bring your own... allas I have to google myself.
You have no idea, but you tell us how they might do it.
Supprisingly, you are wrong.
I never asked you for links. I don't need your links. I already know how the French do load following, that's why I find it so strange that you, who admit you don't know, are so ready to come up with bizzare theories rather than searching (or even just asking) for information.
And they have so many of them that they actually don't need to load follow in the strict sense. They can divide the reactor fleet into groups, one that stays constant, one that is ramped down when demand lowers, one that is ramped up when demand increases. The one that got ramped down can be further ramped down, but need a 6h-8h rasting time till they can be ramped up again.
You don't know what you are talking about, so you invent theories instead of searching for facts. Strange.
Just a couple of seconds googling comes up with, on Wikipedia of all difficult to find places:
In France, however, nuclear power plants use load following. French PWRs use "grey" control rods, in order to replace chemical shim, without introducing a large perturbation of the power distribution. These plants have the capability to make power changes between 30% and 100% of rated power, with a slope of 5% of rated power per minute. Their licensing permits them to respond very quickly to the grid requirements.
slashdotters keep claiming modern nuclear plants can also follow load
For versions of "modern" than mean "built since the 1980's".
And there is no "claim", other than in the sense that some slashdotters claim that "the earth orbits the sun". It's observation. Yes, nukes can load follow, France runs some of it's reactor fleet in load following mode. It has to - 80% of French generating capacity is nuclear.
The problem is programs like "cap and trade" designed to punish companies that are productive thus destroying industry and jobs. Crazy programs like that are what conservatives oppose.
Cap and trade isn't designed to "punish companies".
Its designed, by conservative economists, to let companies make money by doing the right thing.
This easily settles any remaining debate about the motives of Edward Snowden. Disclosing the methods and/or capabilities of the United States to spy on any FOREIGN country is TREASON.
No it isn't.
Treason against the United States, shall consist only in levying War against them, or in adhering to their Enemies, giving them Aid and Comfort.
What war did Snowden levy? What enemies did he give aid and comfort to?
Back in the early 80's I visited the "inward goods" department of Plessey Telecoms Edge Lane plant (building then "state of the art(*)" electonic telephone exchanges).
Random samples of every incoming batch of components were tested. fairly regularly whole batches were rejected. the suppliers were in Germany, Italy, the USA, Japan...
As the great Ronald said: Trust but verify.
These days people would rather just lawyer up.
((*) ok, not as good as the Ericsson AXE exchanges, but national pride...)
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The planet I live on has these things called oceans.
Maybe you've heard of them?
Venus isn't hot because of the greenhouse effect, it's hot because of the enormous pressures caused by an incredibly dense atmosphere.
Moron.
you fucking idiot.
some of us know how to read.
As far as I know (just based on general reading) it's not a big problem - the plants used for load following are the ones more recently fuelled so they have enough ooomph to deal with any xenon poisoning. See http://www.claverton-energy.com/is-nuclear-power-flexible-does-it-have-load-following-capability.html
EDF do seem to sponsor research into this, e.g. http://researchers.edf.com/publications/theses/data-assimilation-for-xenon-dynamics-in-nuclear-plants-44311.html&return=44296%2526page%253D16
Still it would have been cheaper not to have gotten involved in that war to begin with. One big mistake done back then was to consider all communist nations to be allied with each other when in fact the Sino-Soviet split had already happened.
And Vietnam was on the soviet side, not the Chinese side.
Afghanistan and Iraq will be massive failures, just as Viet Nam was.
No.
Vietnam was a success. The right side won, Vietnam is now an increasinly prosperous trading partner of the US.
There is no way Afghanistan or Iraq will ever become success stories like Vietnam.
Both Pakistan and Israel have far better trained troops, better equipment, and nuclear weapons to bomb Iran into the stone age,
And people wonder why Iran wants the bomb.
First question should be: Why is is being printed for everyone in America to see? "Hey! Look how incompetent we are! Allow us more moneys!
Not really a good tactic if the source material is true.
For everyone in America to see?
The attackers already know it worked.
On Debian Sid, using WINE, on a VAIO Z2, using DRI_PRIME to get the 3D graphics running on the PMD's ATI card while everything else runs on the built-in Intel Graphics, sound coming over HDMI.
Worked first time, extraordinary.
As I said, I have no idea how the frensh run their nuclear plants. Nevertheless you demand links and fail to bring your own ... allas I have to google myself.
You have no idea, but you tell us how they might do it.
Supprisingly, you are wrong.
I never asked you for links. I don't need your links. I already know how the French do load following, that's why I find it so strange that you, who admit you don't know, are so ready to come up with bizzare theories rather than searching (or even just asking) for information.
And they have so many of them that they actually don't need to load follow in the strict sense. They can divide the reactor fleet into groups, one that stays constant, one that is ramped down when demand lowers, one that is ramped up when demand increases.
The one that got ramped down can be further ramped down, but need a 6h-8h rasting time till they can be ramped up again.
You don't know what you are talking about, so you invent theories instead of searching for facts. Strange.
Just a couple of seconds googling comes up with, on Wikipedia of all difficult to find places:
In France, however, nuclear power plants use load following. French PWRs use "grey" control rods, in order to replace chemical shim, without introducing a large perturbation of the power distribution. These plants have the capability to make power changes between 30% and 100% of rated power, with a slope of 5% of rated power per minute. Their licensing permits them to respond very quickly to the grid requirements.
You have some problem with taking free money from the chinese?
slashdotters keep claiming modern nuclear plants can also follow load
For versions of "modern" than mean "built since the 1980's".
And there is no "claim", other than in the sense that some slashdotters claim that "the earth orbits the sun". It's observation. Yes, nukes can load follow, France runs some of it's reactor fleet in load following mode. It has to - 80% of French generating capacity is nuclear.
Finally: nuclear power can only provide base load anyway. You can't ramp it up and down to follow demand.
Because in your version of Europe France doesn't exist.
Yes, you can run load-following nuclear. France does.
The Hoover Dam cost $824 million in 2013 dollars to build and averages 4,200,000 mWhs of electricity per year.
Zow, $824 million for something that only makes 4.2 killowatt hours a year! What a rip-off.
The problem is programs like "cap and trade" designed to punish companies that are productive thus destroying industry and jobs. Crazy programs like that are what conservatives oppose.
Cap and trade isn't designed to "punish companies".
Its designed, by conservative economists, to let companies make money by doing the right thing.
Bang!
What the fuck happened to you, man? Shit, your ass used to be beautiful!
Meanwhile the whale shark is thinking... ... Finaly I get to eat something other that raw krill!
Hey, it's a fork of slashdot - of course it's a broken piece of shit. Slashdot has always been a broken peice of shit.
Also, has the attempt at ridiculing someone with an 'LOL' ever really helped?
It's Cold Fjord. His handler probably told him to slip in a few "human" touches to make him sound like "one of the kids".
Ask Nathan Hale his opinion of spies.
Why? I'd guess he thought they were a pretty good thing, since he was one. He was also a traitor, unlike Snowden.
This easily settles any remaining debate about the motives of Edward Snowden.
Disclosing the methods and/or capabilities of the United States to spy on any FOREIGN country is TREASON.
No it isn't.
Treason against the United States, shall consist only in levying War against them, or in adhering to their Enemies, giving them Aid and Comfort.
What war did Snowden levy? What enemies did he give aid and comfort to?
Splendid. A post that tries to make it's point in two sentences where the second one contradicts the first.
Paraphrased:
1. It's not about sex
2. Sex with 15 year olds used to be normal.
N900.
It's delicate plastic, not delicate glass.
Maybe not the answer you were hoping for.
Have you ever worked in manufacturing?
Back in the early 80's I visited the "inward goods" department of Plessey Telecoms Edge Lane plant (building then "state of the art(*)" electonic telephone exchanges).
Random samples of every incoming batch of components were tested. fairly regularly whole batches were rejected. the suppliers were in Germany, Italy, the USA, Japan...
As the great Ronald said: Trust but verify.
These days people would rather just lawyer up.
((*) ok, not as good as the Ericsson AXE exchanges, but national pride...)