The world would be wonderful if it were wonderful wouldn't it?
There is _no_ real micropayment system and PayPal was an option before they changed to just billing your visa card which makes it impossible for them to bill cents amounts.
Ah well.
Well I just thought I'd mention that we are working on exactly that at Counted.com (or counted.de)
One of our servers can count 10 million impressions per day so some big sites could use it too. It is multiserver capable so the sky is the limit really.
It has also proved to be some of the most reliable when looking at other services.
The nice thing is that you can choose a guest password to show the stats you want your investor/advertiser/partner to see.
Counted! is free at the moment but you will need to display a button. We have category specific buttons too which is working nicely on B eOS related sites where we have the biggest of them in the site list. They are all ranked.
We have a linux category too, so if anyone wants to do a cool Linux button I could put it in there:) Slashdot can of course use it too, but would probably win with easy:)
The servers are running FreeBSD thought, the counter servers that is. Sorry guys;)
We are also working on something else that will be even better for what this is all about. Proove you hits to different people. Different people looking at which site is the biggest. Very cool stuff.
Check it out at http://counted.com and give me your feedback at oliver@stats.net if you want.
Now off to reading more of the comments:)
TheOpus
I see loads of posts here saying stuff like: WAP sucks anyway, nuke it and use stuff like HTML, XML and TCP/IP instead..... These people must not really have any idea what WAP is and why it was made, huh?
WAP is a Protocol used for low-bandwidth devices, devices where things like HTML or XML are really way too big to use well. Most Mobile Phones have so little available memory that they can not even save the same page in HTML. Also, WML is just the way you WRITE the pages. It is NOT the way that most mobile phones read it!! Most mobile phones receive cWML, which is COMPILED WML, from the so-called WAP-Gateway, which is basically something like a Proxy operated by the Cell Phone Provider which receives data from the real Web/WAP Server and compiles it to make it WAY smaller. cWML uses byte-codes for all tags and stuff like that, so that they do not need to receive and store all those Text-based Tags. And this is just one single thing that makes WAP important for mobile phones, they just HAVE low bandwidth, so we will have to live with it, and on top of that they have low storage. Of course, later on it will make sense to have the possability to use full TCP/IP with mobile phones since speed and space in them will increase, but until this happends, it just makes no sense. Another reason which makes WAP important is the TINY displays most Cell Phones have. It just does not make sense to use full HTML in them!
Also, for those people who didn't know. If you REALLY want to via normal web sites, there is no problem at all. Many WAP Gateways have HTML to WML converters built in which will make it possible to display those pages on WAP devices also!
About the Patent, can somebody please explain to me in WHAT way WML and WAP is SOOO much different to HTML and the any other protocol out there?? It doesn't make any sense to me why GeoWorks should be able to use their patent talking about USER INTERFACES with the WAP system! Except for one thing, mobile phones display WAP pages (and most WAP pages are written in such a way) to make them look like extended MENUS of the phone itself. Is THAT the only reason why they think they can come and charge those silly amounts for using 'their' patent?
I just read the interview and wondered what Alan ment with the PPC port starting on a BeBox? Was there not porting done to PPC before the BeBox? Does Alan have a BeBox? I am amazed at the far reaches of Be here:) Can someone, even Alan, clarify?:)
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This wasn't started by the register but by some broker. So The Register was just reporting what was already out there. The broker was wrong.
The world would be wonderful if it were wonderful wouldn't it? There is _no_ real micropayment system and PayPal was an option before they changed to just billing your visa card which makes it impossible for them to bill cents amounts. Ah well.
Well I just thought I'd mention that we are working on exactly that at Counted.com (or counted.de)
One of our servers can count 10 million impressions per day so some big sites could use it too. It is multiserver capable so the sky is the limit really.
It has also proved to be some of the most reliable when looking at other services.
The nice thing is that you can choose a guest password to show the stats you want your investor/advertiser/partner to see.
Counted! is free at the moment but you will need to display a button. We have category specific buttons too which is working nicely on B eOS related sites where we have the biggest of them in the site list. They are all ranked.
We have a linux category too, so if anyone wants to do a cool Linux button I could put it in there :) Slashdot can of course use it too, but would probably win with easy :)
The servers are running FreeBSD thought, the counter servers that is. Sorry guys ;)
We are also working on something else that will be even better for what this is all about. Proove you hits to different people. Different people looking at which site is the biggest. Very cool stuff.
Check it out at http://counted.com and give me your feedback at oliver@stats.net if you want. Now off to reading more of the comments :)
TheOpus
I see loads of posts here saying stuff like: WAP sucks anyway, nuke it and use stuff like HTML, XML and TCP/IP instead. .... These people must not really have any idea what WAP is and why it was made, huh?
WAP is a Protocol used for low-bandwidth devices, devices where things like HTML or XML are really way too big to use well. Most Mobile Phones have so little available memory that they can not even save the same page in HTML. Also, WML is just the way you WRITE the pages. It is NOT the way that most mobile phones read it!! Most mobile phones receive cWML, which is COMPILED WML, from the so-called WAP-Gateway, which is basically something like a Proxy operated by the Cell Phone Provider which receives data from the real Web/WAP Server and compiles it to make it WAY smaller. cWML uses byte-codes for all tags and stuff like that, so that they do not need to receive and store all those Text-based Tags.
And this is just one single thing that makes WAP important for mobile phones, they just HAVE low bandwidth, so we will have to live with it, and on top of that they have low storage. Of course, later on it will make sense to have the possability to use full TCP/IP with mobile phones since speed and space in them will increase, but until this happends, it just makes no sense.
Another reason which makes WAP important is the TINY displays most Cell Phones have. It just does not make sense to use full HTML in them!
Also, for those people who didn't know. If you REALLY want to via normal web sites, there is no problem at all. Many WAP Gateways have HTML to WML converters built in which will make it possible to display those pages on WAP devices also!
About the Patent, can somebody please explain to me in WHAT way WML and WAP is SOOO much different to HTML and the any other protocol out there?? It doesn't make any sense to me why GeoWorks should be able to use their patent talking about USER INTERFACES with the WAP system! Except for one thing, mobile phones display WAP pages (and most WAP pages are written in such a way) to make them look like extended MENUS of the phone itself. Is THAT the only reason why they think they can come and charge those silly amounts for using 'their' patent?
Fabian Thylmann
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Capt Dan...
This is not and never was a real site, I doubt it very much. It was definately just used for Search Engine Spamming, nothing else.
- TheOpus
Hi,
:) :)
I just read the interview and wondered what Alan ment with the PPC port starting on a BeBox? Was there not porting done to PPC before the BeBox? Does Alan have a BeBox? I am amazed at the far reaches of Be here
Can someone, even Alan, clarify?
Oliver