fast well 386's must have been fast compared to ENIAC cheap to good ol' Bill Gates is larger than your current salary per year good well some people think that Budweiser is good too
I know some people who have ran windows without a crash for years does that mean it's 100% bugfree? Often times it takes that new or strange instruction to bring the kernel to it's knees.
My fellow posters have said it better than I have that having an official release is subjective and that it really should be looked at in terms of other things. A good comparison would be perhaps redhat's experimental distro (can't remember the name of it) and say unstable debian. While you can say that there are bugs in a development process there really haven't been too many show stopping bugs as of late. By any indication this is a good thing. I have been installing components that have worked for me quite well from an initial base of slink (debian 2.1) and have retrieved new packages from unstable and have found little problem with this. I also know that it's rock solid when you have slink and the like. However the level of archaicness starts to feel on you. Debian is more of an ideal for what a linux should be and I think that since it is an ideal something has to suffer a bit and if all it is is an "official" stamp then so be it. And yes there are bugs in debian in fact you could say that there are perhaps a rather average ammount. I still would like a good comparison between experimental for redhat's line and debian's unstable.
People must really look at what being part of linux and things like debian really mean in a social context. When people *donate* their time for something it's because they believe in it. It's kind of like the people who work for the salvation army, the peace corps, or the make a wish foundation they are all efforts to take our noblest impulses and make them more effective. In history it's traditionally been called reform and it tried to offset the social darwinistic interpretation of humanity and make something more than just money grubbing. That's why I have traditionally tried to help those less fortunate than myself and help various causes. This is a good thing. Of course not everyone can work for no money because humanity is composed of humans and they have basic and not so basic needs to be met. The world will not wither away and your job will not be compromised by you say spending every saturday or say 1 hour after work doing something for debian.
Or else I have some swamp land in Florida I wish to sell you. Really shiny boxes mean nothing about a stable product look at windows and their "quality software". So much for shiny boxes.
Actually the term reds isn't really a totally correct one. The real "reds" were the individuals of the bolshevisk persuasion who fought against the white army and ultimately became the rulers in what is now the Russian federation. As a amateur historian I should know. It would be more correct to call the largest body of communists that have any real power Maoists or sympathizers of the castro regime.
As the French have been quoted as saying anything can be seen as a political statement because politics intercets almost anything. That being said for example using MS products makes a statement rather implicetly stated that you agree with the procedures that they utilize in development and marketing. Same with patronizing certain stores and the like. No one is immune. I will support microsoft no longer in my life. They are moving towards a world where software is no longer my own and I have to upgrade a several thousand dollar computer every week. Thank you but no.
Anything that runs sluggishly on a 486/66 with about 50Mbs of RAM+swap with a mach32 videocard is really not all that nice. Can you recommend a better product?
Red Hat and quality don't exactly go hand in hand. Why should sendmail and GNOME be forced upon me. Why the bad broken configs? There is little organization on the red hat cd at all. Just a big directory of.rpm files and no good organization. Try using unstable or better one of the most stable releases like slink.
That's the way most programs that aren't totally comercial in nature usually get created in the linux world. Without doing it for the sake of doing it there would e previous little around.
What does it say about an organization that releases a flagshhip product that has thousands of full time programmers doing supposedly quality work and that still manages to contain various anoying bugs and failures? The size of debian is a good thing. Debian has more packages that are more or less guaranteed to work than any other distribution in the world. Debian cares more about stability, security, reliability, etc than most. Hell even unstable debian is usually more stable than most other distros in final form and definately more stable than others unstable area.
The most anoying thing is that you have to build pine from source but the process is well documented and there are even some non official sources for binary pine debs as well.
Before or after they: 1. Made the distribution non floppy friendly. 2. Force source builds of various handy packages that people actually use like various ones in debian to get any third party stuff of merit to work. 3. Follow the "trendy" thing to do and change their versioning to suit a bunch of slack jawed yokels. 4. Actually upgrade things in a sensible and timely manner without repartioning things. There are many, many, rasons not the least of which is that I like the fact that people actually care about my distribution. Damn ignorant trolls. And I suppose you believe that a stone bleeds right?
Maybe those inventions havn't really been created yet? Also it is rather impossible from a purely statistical point of view that there was just one person with the idea in the entire world. That's why all the crap about mind control/telepathy/CIA's use thereof, etc aren't really possible. I think with the invention of the internet crackpots have increased in number.
Really many of the events you named are in fact not correct at all and not only that but the events we know as the truth are in fact verifiable with thousands of independent minds. Also during the war of 1812 we didn't have the time or the expertise in mathmetics that is currently necessary to do full scale cryptography
Try the Japanese "purple" cipher. That one was the hardest for the US to crack. Also computer viruses cannot easily cross computer platforms and OSs and totally render them useless. That is the stuff of hollywood
Instead of being a grammer nazi try to conceive that ideas and not the mold that they are cast in is the important thing ok? Of course you never had to use the eraser on any of your pencils right?
The british were the first to capture an enigma device from the germans. Enigma encryption is extremely weak anyway. And as most of you should no the average person in depression era USA didn't really need encryption in this manner. They were far too busy with keeping themselves fed and housed to worry about that.
Sorry to burst your buble but government isn't a business. The ideas of Calvin Cooledge are long past. We learned a valuable leson, that business isn't the only thing in life; hence the relative popularity of intellectual past times like computer science.
I'm wondering about what it really takes to run one of these wireless devices? Do they need special adapter cards and can then be made to work on something cheap like a 486? That would be great to have a wireless keyboard that could connect to any one of a group of cheap PCs around the house and telnet into the best PC that could be isolated in a different room.
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fast well 386's must have been fast compared to ENIAC cheap to good ol' Bill Gates is larger than your current salary per year good well some people think that Budweiser is good too
I know some people who have ran windows without a crash for years does that mean it's 100% bugfree? Often times it takes that new or strange instruction to bring the kernel to it's knees.
Isn't there a browser program for it?
My fellow posters have said it better than I have that having an official release is subjective and that it really should be looked at in terms of other things. A good comparison would be perhaps redhat's experimental distro (can't remember the name of it) and say unstable debian. While you can say that there are bugs in a development process there really haven't been too many show stopping bugs as of late. By any indication this is a good thing. I have been installing components that have worked for me quite well from an initial base of slink (debian 2.1) and have retrieved new packages from unstable and have found little problem with this. I also know that it's rock solid when you have slink and the like. However the level of archaicness starts to feel on you. Debian is more of an ideal for what a linux should be and I think that since it is an ideal something has to suffer a bit and if all it is is an "official" stamp then so be it. And yes there are bugs in debian in fact you could say that there are perhaps a rather average ammount. I still would like a good comparison between experimental for redhat's line and debian's unstable.
People must really look at what being part of linux and things like debian really mean in a social context. When people *donate* their time for something it's because they believe in it. It's kind of like the people who work for the salvation army, the peace corps, or the make a wish foundation they are all efforts to take our noblest impulses and make them more effective. In history it's traditionally been called reform and it tried to offset the social darwinistic interpretation of humanity and make something more than just money grubbing. That's why I have traditionally tried to help those less fortunate than myself and help various causes. This is a good thing. Of course not everyone can work for no money because humanity is composed of humans and they have basic and not so basic needs to be met. The world will not wither away and your job will not be compromised by you say spending every saturday or say 1 hour after work doing something for debian.
Most new good programs don't have *BSD ports. Take a look at sun's jvm for instince. You want official java support don't look to *BSD.
Or else I have some swamp land in Florida I wish to sell you. Really shiny boxes mean nothing about a stable product look at windows and their "quality software". So much for shiny boxes.
Actually the term reds isn't really a totally correct one. The real "reds" were the individuals of the bolshevisk persuasion who fought against the white army and ultimately became the rulers in what is now the Russian federation. As a amateur historian I should know. It would be more correct to call the largest body of communists that have any real power Maoists or sympathizers of the castro regime.
As the French have been quoted as saying anything can be seen as a political statement because politics intercets almost anything.
That being said for example using MS products makes a statement rather implicetly stated that you agree with the procedures that they utilize in development and marketing. Same with patronizing certain stores and the like.
No one is immune. I will support microsoft no longer in my life.
They are moving towards a world where software is no longer my own and I have to upgrade a several thousand dollar computer every week. Thank you but no.
Anything that runs sluggishly on a 486/66 with about 50Mbs of RAM+swap with a mach32 videocard is really not all that nice. Can you recommend a better product?
Red Hat and quality don't exactly go hand in hand. Why should sendmail and GNOME be forced upon me. Why the bad broken configs? There is little organization on the red hat cd at all. Just a big directory of .rpm files and no good organization. Try using unstable or better one of the most stable releases like slink.
That's the way most programs that aren't totally comercial in nature usually get created in the linux world. Without doing it for the sake of doing it there would e previous little around.
What does it say about an organization that releases a flagshhip product that has thousands of full time programmers doing supposedly quality work and that still manages to contain various anoying bugs and failures? The size of debian is a good thing. Debian has more packages that are more or less guaranteed to work than any other distribution in the world. Debian cares more about stability, security, reliability, etc than most. Hell even unstable debian is usually more stable than most other distros in final form and definately more stable than others unstable area.
The most anoying thing is that you have to build pine from source but the process is well documented and there are even some non official sources for binary pine debs as well.
Before or after they: 1. Made the distribution non floppy friendly. 2. Force source builds of various handy packages that people actually use like various ones in debian to get any third party stuff of merit to work. 3. Follow the "trendy" thing to do and change their versioning to suit a bunch of slack jawed yokels. 4. Actually upgrade things in a sensible and timely manner without repartioning things. There are many, many, rasons not the least of which is that I like the fact that people actually care about my distribution. Damn ignorant trolls. And I suppose you believe that a stone bleeds right?
Unless your uber rich that's a little exagerated. Also there's social security that you will eventually get in some form.
Maybe those inventions havn't really been created yet?
Also it is rather impossible from a purely statistical point of view that there was just one person with the idea in the entire world.
That's why all the crap about mind control/telepathy/CIA's use thereof, etc aren't really possible.
I think with the invention of the internet crackpots have increased in number.
Really many of the events you named are in fact not correct at all and not only that but the events we know as the truth are in fact verifiable with thousands of independent minds.
Also during the war of 1812 we didn't have the time or the expertise in mathmetics that is currently necessary to do full scale cryptography
Try the Japanese "purple" cipher. That one was the hardest for the US to crack. Also computer viruses cannot easily cross computer platforms and OSs and totally render them useless. That is the stuff of hollywood
Instead of being a grammer nazi try to conceive that ideas and not the mold that they are cast in is the important thing ok? Of course you never had to use the eraser on any of your pencils right?
The british were the first to capture an enigma device from the germans. Enigma encryption is extremely weak anyway. And as most of you should no the average person in depression era USA didn't really need encryption in this manner. They were far too busy with keeping themselves fed and housed to worry about that.
Sorry to burst your buble but government isn't a business. The ideas of Calvin Cooledge are long past. We learned a valuable leson, that business isn't the only thing in life; hence the relative popularity of intellectual past times like computer science.
I'm wondering about what it really takes to run one of these wireless devices? Do they need special adapter cards and can then be made to work on something cheap like a 486? That would be great to have a wireless keyboard that could connect to any one of a group of cheap PCs around the house and telnet into the best PC that could be isolated in a different room.
That way at least you never have that troublesome problem with loosing a computer and plus it's not adding error from the military channels now.