How do you choose a mechanic for your car? How do you determine a good resteraunt to eat at? Do you have to know (or should you know) about everything to make any decision?
I actually program and install various components for programs and I feel that it's a real pain in the ass to force anyone to sit there and have to install that 5Mb library that one and only one program uses to display a fancy doodad. Look at the dependencies in debian if you don't believe me. The problem with them is that they install sometimes 20+Mb of libraries to run some little dinky program. Either way you pay for your code.
Not only would this make developing applications impossible, the memory and disk footprints would end up being LARGER!
But remember everyone and their mother dosn't have to give a shit about people like me who want to save money and keep a machine from being obselete next week because of their ever grander (and more lack luster) ideas.
Tell me exactly how in the absence of having the library instaled on my system and writing or at least cut/pasting the code into the program of my choice how the size will be any different? Ahhh you can't that's why. Why? Because they are the same size. I am not as dumb as you take me for. I see no reason to force thousands of libraries that OSS programs think they need just to run them for one application.
That is why linux really has started to suck. People think they need to have every possible library avaible for them and then they write one small dinky little application that uses that library for some trivial thing. If you ask I will even provide an example of such a program and then maybe you will believe me.
sips, frankly that is a horrendously stupid idea. The "c++ standard" has for example no facility to display a dialog box. Now by what you're suggesting, every time I write a program I have to write all the code to display
a dialog box.
No I am saying that if you wanted to and you didn't have the library installed that it would be just as easy to rip the code from the library and install it in the application that is being developed.
The one thing that has to be seen here is that sometimes you don't need say a complete library that will do every function in math through theoretical fields. Sometimes you only need to square a number of find an integral and that is all you need to do. What then? Is a full library install really necessary then? Do I really have to install that massive 50Mb of libraries to just find a simple answer to a simple problem in my program?
The people who are earning Earned Income Tax Credit are in fact people who usually need said funds. When I was a child my family and I were the recipients of such funds and it helped to offset the large number of other taxes that were levied for various things.
The government needs funds to pay for things. If the government wants to give money from overly rich people to those who are making less than the poverty line and allow them to have a better life that is their perograterative.
You seem to think that life was good back in the good old days without seeing all the good that government has done to help people.
Having been extremely well schooled in American History I can say that Federalism is a good thing. If you let states do all the work you get a bunch of bull shit laws that are all about the local rich guys and never focus on anyone. Some of the more violent times in our history were where colonial state governments were in charge of their little fiefdoms. Remember the rebellion of Daniel Shays? Well see the local fat plantation owners were fearful of loosing money and they decided to basically let the indians do whatever they pleased to the settlers. Well your average settler lived on the frontier and so was the recipient of many tomahawks in the face. So Shays tried to take over and failed. Civil rights legislation would never happened if the Federal government hadn't come and and tried to make a difference.
You are probably thinking of life in the antellebum period right? Well back then things weren't that rosy either. Before the civil war a bunch of wackos lead by John C. Calhoon out of South Carolina thought that they could do whatever they wanted too and they got bitchslapped by Andrew Jackson (old Hickory to his friends) and basically they were forced to toe the line.
I guess I can say I am a person who is more inclined that government should represent all people not just rich and powerful people who want to rule.
The problem with representation is that the government is probably going to fund things that you don't like. In fact even if this were a direct democracy and everyone was asked about what they wanted in government then you would *still* get pissed off at something. The whole reason we don't have direct democracy is that it rarely prevents massive majorities from crushing the little guy (wheather that's a social, ecconomic, or political thing it dosn't matter).
Good grief you must be one old guy are you are a nostalgic fool. Either way face facts about how the world works. The interstate highway system would have never been built without government funds. That makes it easy to cross the country instead of taking a bunch of time or 2 weeks or more when the country was young.
One of the problems is that people will not contribute to a project if they don't have any way to see it being used or see that it has a good code base. This goes for any project that you want to have people work on. This is purely psychological but is deeply engrained in how people think.
PS. It would also help if you uploaded at least a temp page for sourceforge. I just like to be able to get some page and maybe some info before downloading things to see what the project is like.
Does your bulletin board support nested comment display ala slashdot? If it does avoid nested tables like the plague because it's not considered good coding form by the lynx developers and the like and excludes many people who want to undetstand the flow of conversation that is going on.
Make it use only the features found in the standard c++ standard then just code the rest into the app. Makes it easier to have people run the stuff. I have not used programs before because of just this reason.
Of course if you like being a slave in the United States of China because the government dosn't have any military defense and you have no other form of internal improvements to keep you living in the life you are now.
If not from the federal government you are going to get taxed somewhere.
They get permanent positions in the lap of luxry and very rarely have to actually do any of the genesis work that makes American capitalism supposedly great. I live in America but I have to at least concede that starting a business is almost impossible to do without failure and as such takes real talent (and unfortunately massive luck). People who just maintain things don't change anything.
As for the difference between the Dems and the GOP, the author is correct, there is a difference: The Dems want to steal your money and waste it by shoveling it out to corrupt foreign leaders and crack heads. The GOP
want to steal your money and use it to buy $2,000.00 toilet seats.
That's an old and tiring joke at it's best. The expense that is often quoted by various liberals to illustrate the expense of government (especially military) production is a joke. The price you are seeing is a reflection of the cost of compensating every person it took to run the plany, the lights, the machinery, and all that. It's because of various lobbiests (including labor unions and consumer interest groups many of whom are actually from many of the average Joes in the world) make the government do many things at once and hence you get figures like that. So if you don't want the government to pay figures like that expect less of them in the way of assistence.
You don't agree with it and you can't refute the statements made therein? Interesting. Tell me just what makes it illogical or unsupported to be classified as a troll instead of a differing political opinion.
Well, for one thing, I utterly reject the silly platitude going around that says the republican and democratic parties are just the same. What hogwash!
Anyone who studied history could have told you that. Oh I forget most people on slashdot don't like hearing facts.
Very true, very true. You would think that certain people would grow up after certain experiances, but no, what do they do? Carry on going, that's what.
I refuse to toe the part line on slashdot or anywhere else. As far as being some other poster you have no definable evidence to prove or disprove your statements.
I for one find such presumptious rambling like that little troll faq to be a laugh. Any sociologist could have determined such "facts" in roughly an hour or less.
A nickle's worth of free advice for the future. If you wish to critize my statements do so with some logical base for argument and then we will talk.
Hmmm getting money which is the means of bartering and survival in this world is a bad thing? And people are *not* going to compete because of this? How do you figure?
Are you also so critical on grammar as well? Bet you're really fun to be around.
Haven't you realised it by now? If you need further proof, look at this comment, in which he cocks up his HTML like he always used to, and is still posting the same sort of rubbish as before.
This better for you? Good grief you think some people would grow up.
You see in America and supposedly in the majority of the world at large people have a right to their opinions. Where I come from research is done with the goal of determining information and with it honesty.
1. Extreme expense (hey most people even if they are made out of money find it at least slightly disquiting to see triple digit cell phone bills every month).
2. No pressing need for wireless devices (why do you think they are trying to persuade people that a stupid little dumbed down presentation of a homepage (it makes lynx look extremely complex) is the real thing? they are getting desperate). I can do everything with patience and a regular line.
3. wireless internet access is extremely expensive even more than phone access and wireless broadband is like giving away your first born or one of your limbs.
4. Lack of infrastructure. I still cannot use my connectivity anywhere in the world at all. With regular telephone networks at least I have the (costly) option to say dial into my ISP from Mongolia and surf the web.
The term "organic" in chemistry refers to any mollecule that has a carbon atom in it, or any with a carbon structure. This is somewhat counter intutive to what most people think when they say "organic" and think alive.
Also I thought it was the case that some plastics are impossible to recycle making the case even worse than that. I think some of the polyeurathane varieties have that problem right?
Ok imagine a future windows setup mixed with these. Mission critical will mean a week of uptime at a stretch if you are lucky. This will only increase instability and decrease quality control and assurance. Why not make things last and make many of them?
Eventually we will run out of petroleum and so the future of these circut designs could be in doubt. Also do we really want fluctuating oil prices effecting computer prices as well (at least directly)?
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How do you choose a mechanic for your car? How do you determine a good resteraunt to eat at? Do you have to know (or should you know) about everything to make any decision?
Not only would this make developing applications impossible, the memory and disk footprints would end up being LARGER!
But remember everyone and their mother dosn't have to give a shit about people like me who want to save money and keep a machine from being obselete next week because of their ever grander (and more lack luster) ideas.
Tell me exactly how in the absence of having the library instaled on my system and writing or at least cut/pasting the code into the program of my choice how the size will be any different? Ahhh you can't that's why. Why? Because they are the same size. I am not as dumb as you take me for. I see no reason to force thousands of libraries that OSS programs think they need just to run them for one application.
That is why linux really has started to suck. People think they need to have every possible library avaible for them and then they write one small dinky little application that uses that library for some trivial thing. If you ask I will even provide an example of such a program and then maybe you will believe me.
sips, frankly that is a horrendously stupid idea. The "c++ standard" has for example no facility to display a dialog box. Now by what you're suggesting, every time I write a program I have to write all the code to display
a dialog box.
No I am saying that if you wanted to and you didn't have the library installed that it would be just as easy to rip the code from the library and install it in the application that is being developed.
The one thing that has to be seen here is that sometimes you don't need say a complete library that will do every function in math through theoretical fields. Sometimes you only need to square a number of find an integral and that is all you need to do. What then? Is a full library install really necessary then? Do I really have to install that massive 50Mb of libraries to just find a simple answer to a simple problem in my program?
The people who are earning Earned Income Tax Credit are in fact people who usually need said funds. When I was a child my family and I were the recipients of such funds and it helped to offset the large number of other taxes that were levied for various things.
The government needs funds to pay for things. If the government wants to give money from overly rich people to those who are making less than the poverty line and allow them to have a better life that is their perograterative.
You seem to think that life was good back in the good old days without seeing all the good that government has done to help people.
Having been extremely well schooled in American History I can say that Federalism is a good thing. If you let states do all the work you get a bunch of bull shit laws that are all about the local rich guys and never focus on anyone. Some of the more violent times in our history were where colonial state governments were in charge of their little fiefdoms. Remember the rebellion of Daniel Shays? Well see the local fat plantation owners were fearful of loosing money and they decided to basically let the indians do whatever they pleased to the settlers. Well your average settler lived on the frontier and so was the recipient of many tomahawks in the face. So Shays tried to take over and failed. Civil rights legislation would never happened if the Federal government hadn't come and and tried to make a difference.
You are probably thinking of life in the antellebum period right? Well back then things weren't that rosy either. Before the civil war a bunch of wackos lead by John C. Calhoon out of South Carolina thought that they could do whatever they wanted too and they got bitchslapped by Andrew Jackson (old Hickory to his friends) and basically they were forced to toe the line.
I guess I can say I am a person who is more inclined that government should represent all people not just rich and powerful people who want to rule.
The problem with representation is that the government is probably going to fund things that you don't like. In fact even if this were a direct democracy and everyone was asked about what they wanted in government then you would *still* get pissed off at something. The whole reason we don't have direct democracy is that it rarely prevents massive majorities from crushing the little guy (wheather that's a social, ecconomic, or political thing it dosn't matter).
Good grief you must be one old guy are you are a nostalgic fool. Either way face facts about how the world works. The interstate highway system would have never been built without government funds. That makes it easy to cross the country instead of taking a bunch of time or 2 weeks or more when the country was young.
One of the problems is that people will not contribute to a project if they don't have any way to see it being used or see that it has a good code base. This goes for any project that you want to have people work on. This is purely psychological but is deeply engrained in how people think.
PS. It would also help if you uploaded at least a temp page for sourceforge. I just like to be able to get some page and maybe some info before downloading things to see what the project is like.
Does your bulletin board support nested comment display ala slashdot? If it does avoid nested tables like the plague because it's not considered good coding form by the lynx developers and the like and excludes many people who want to undetstand the flow of conversation that is going on.
Make it use only the features found in the standard c++ standard then just code the rest into the app. Makes it easier to have people run the stuff. I have not used programs before because of just this reason.
The president need not know anything of ecconomics to run the country when he has capable assistants who can do the job.
Of course if you like being a slave in the United States of China because the government dosn't have any military defense and you have no other form of internal improvements to keep you living in the life you are now.
If not from the federal government you are going to get taxed somewhere.
They get permanent positions in the lap of luxry and very rarely have to actually do any of the genesis work that makes American capitalism supposedly great. I live in America but I have to at least concede that starting a business is almost impossible to do without failure and as such takes real talent (and unfortunately massive luck). People who just maintain things don't change anything.
As for the difference between the Dems and the GOP, the author is correct, there is a difference: The Dems want to steal your money and waste it by shoveling it out to corrupt foreign leaders and crack heads. The GOP
want to steal your money and use it to buy $2,000.00 toilet seats.
That's an old and tiring joke at it's best. The expense that is often quoted by various liberals to illustrate the expense of government (especially military) production is a joke. The price you are seeing is a reflection of the cost of compensating every person it took to run the plany, the lights, the machinery, and all that. It's because of various lobbiests (including labor unions and consumer interest groups many of whom are actually from many of the average Joes in the world) make the government do many things at once and hence you get figures like that. So if you don't want the government to pay figures like that expect less of them in the way of assistence.
You don't agree with it and you can't refute the statements made therein? Interesting. Tell me just what makes it illogical or unsupported to be classified as a troll instead of a differing political opinion.
Well, for one thing, I utterly reject the silly platitude going around that says the republican and democratic parties are just the same. What hogwash!
Anyone who studied history could have told you that. Oh I forget most people on slashdot don't like hearing facts.
Very true, very true. You would think that certain people would grow up after certain experiances, but no, what do they do? Carry on going, that's what.
I refuse to toe the part line on slashdot or anywhere else. As far as being some other poster you have no definable evidence to prove or disprove your statements.
I for one find such presumptious rambling like that little troll faq to be a laugh. Any sociologist could have determined such "facts" in roughly an hour or less.
A nickle's worth of free advice for the future. If you wish to critize my statements do so with some logical base for argument and then we will talk.
Hmmm getting money which is the means of bartering and survival in this world is a bad thing? And people are *not* going to compete because of this? How do you figure?
Haven't you realised it by now? If you need further proof, look at this comment, in which he cocks up his HTML like he always used to, and is still posting the same sort of rubbish as before.
This better for you? Good grief you think some people would grow up.
You see in America and supposedly in the majority of the world at large people have a right to their opinions. Where I come from research is done with the goal of determining information and with it honesty.
Why do people need to bribe others to get information that is most likely out there already?
1. Extreme expense (hey most people even if they are made out of money find it at least slightly disquiting to see triple digit cell phone bills every month).
2. No pressing need for wireless devices (why do you think they are trying to persuade people that a stupid little dumbed down presentation of a homepage (it makes lynx look extremely complex) is the real thing? they are getting desperate). I can do everything with patience and a regular line.
3. wireless internet access is extremely expensive even more than phone access and wireless broadband is like giving away your first born or one of your limbs.
4. Lack of infrastructure. I still cannot use my connectivity anywhere in the world at all. With regular telephone networks at least I have the (costly) option to say dial into my ISP from Mongolia and surf the web.
The term "organic" in chemistry refers to any mollecule that has a carbon atom in it, or any with a carbon structure. This is somewhat counter intutive to what most people think when they say "organic" and think alive.
Also I thought it was the case that some plastics are impossible to recycle making the case even worse than that. I think some of the polyeurathane varieties have that problem right?
You get beyond a certain limit and the cell cannot conduct proper membrane transport operations and will die.
Ok imagine a future windows setup mixed with these. Mission critical will mean a week of uptime at a stretch if you are lucky. This will only increase instability and decrease quality control and assurance. Why not make things last and make many of them?
If slashdot knows of it's existence why force people to see the registration page?
Eventually we will run out of petroleum and so the future of these circut designs could be in doubt. Also do we really want fluctuating oil prices effecting computer prices as well (at least directly)?
Plus I don't want some nasty lab technician dumbing a bacterophage into my computer and making me buy new hardware.