Mozilla is pre-beta! It may even be pre-alpha. But people still think it's more stable, faster, and better than 4.x
So the question really is, how much better will mozilla get when it is production release? Without debug and legacy code? Cleaned up and packaged? Resource usage should go down, and speed should go up.
I apologize to the/. community for responding to a troll, but I sorta wish it hadn't been modded up in the first place
Unfortunately I suspect that not all parents are as progressive, upstanding, or responsible as you.
There exist people that don't want to work so much, as a parent, and would like to get software to filter, control, and protect their children. There are parents that hire nannies to watch their children while they work, play, and live. There are parents who, for whatever reason, could care less about their children because they are too busy.
Then there are the misguided, who don't understand the system, and think that this software can help. Who think that buying a PC is an educational thing, who think that the internet is good for the children. They don't necessarily connect the fact that the PC and the internet, like a library, is a storehouse of information and knowledge, and that this is not something they can limit, only watch, oversee, and show.
Ah well... maybe this will work out, Darwin style? Best of luck to you and your kids!
It's getting sort of tiring, in a fatigue sort of way.
Intellectual property, distribution, ownership, and control issues are getting in the way of people getting music and movies the way they want them, which means people are breaking laws and getting in trouble.
I understand that the market doesn't have to supply anything it doesn't want to. It's the right of the music people, the movie people, the DVD people, to *not* make money by refusing to release stuff online, or refusing to make their products accessible... Actually, correct that. Won't they get under fire from their shareholders by acting in such a way as to limit their own growth and success? But still, it's within their rights to not pursue an option if they don't believe in it.
Okay so I'm rambling. But I don't think I'm the only tired? I'm interested in the outcome, but it seems such a pain, and I can't fire up the enthusiam to actually care, today. Do we need a leader/martyr? Is that how human mentality works? Do we need someone to drive us, to scream for us, to die for us, so we can get up and do something? Do we need an RMS to forge ahead into intellectual property?
Of course, I see nothing wrong with buying music, movies, etc. Pay for the distribution, the packaging, the convenience, whatever. I buy DVDs and CDs because they work for me. I would love it if the price dropped, because the price limits me to how many I can buy, and really, the industry makes the same money if I buy 1 for 20$ or 4 for 5$. I would love it if there were broadband access to samples, to music, to movies, to videos...
Perhaps we do need government, Senator Hatch, Congress, etc to step in, if only because, ostensibly, they are the voice and the power of the people, first and foremost, but have the clout and size to bully the corporations.
You aren't an AC, so I'll give you credit beyond just a troll post.
Basic scientific research like this gives us rewards we cannot measure or calculate. It's premise is that we are studying the unknown, so the rewards are just as unknown.
In a similar vein, look at Newton, playing with light, over 200 years ago. How useful was his research into photons, spectra, etc. But look today, at our lasers, our CD players, our gas spectrometers, our fiber optics, etc.
The problem is that we have to do research today for our advances 200 years from now; or farther! Imagine the ridicule chemists of 400 years past had to face, from people who didn't understand the worth of their research? No fault to the people, because they cannot obviously imagine titanium alloys, ceramic superconductors, high energy density batteries, etc. Likewise, you can't be faulted for not envisioning what research of today will give us in the future. No one knows!
Interest and apathy are good regulators, but aren't in the same class as regulons, I don't think.
Information can spread more easily, but don't reproduce in the same way in which regulons, prey, and predators, are associated.
A moral, however, for example, can be forced into the concept. Take Wes Craven, who mutates some common morals into his horror movies. It is the person who consumes ideas, and then reproduces it in a modern format for others to consume; maybe later, some of those people will be inspired by Wes Craven, and become an author of horror stories, etc.
The ideas themselves aren't like prey or predators, but are like DNA, and shape or form the people who incorporate the stories into themselves, and shape the ideas or stories that these people later spit back out for the culture to share and consume.
Though I'm not sure the term regulon has much meaning in this context, as time applies to biological entities without being considered a predator; old age, and all...
Natural selection applies to anything in which competition, growth, and adaptation applies, assuming there is a feedback mechanism to which all the above three forces can modify something.
So websites can be 'selected' against, genres of music, or movies; but individual CDs, movies, or stories themselves cannot be.
There is an interesting analogy I thought of, in which information == DNA, and a culture, a person, or a society is the organism that uses said information. Instead of survival based on physical traits, it is survival based on behavioral traits.
The story of Skywalker, or the Mau'dib, or of Cloud Strife, affects the people who partake, and affects their behavior, and thus their chances at success, happiness, and reproduction.
But the information itself does not change, excepting in the concept of sequels, variations, etc, and that's more mutation in the fact that as an author takes in a story, his interpretations change the story subtly as he reproduces it and retransmits it.
To talk about regulons...
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Accepts the premise that information spreads and grows like an organism, when it is probably more apt to ascribe properties of genes and DNA to information.
Movies, stories, news, music, etc, help to shape, teach, grow, and limit our cultures, and the value of good information is that it is absorbed by and propogated through our culture, through space *and* time. There is no regulon in this case, in the sense of a predator, but obsolescence, time, and apathy work on the information to destroy it.
I don't think I agree with the basic premises...
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The article talks about information, exponentiality, and lack of a regulon.
Those all assume that information follows some basic rules of biology;
That information has a survival instinct. This survival instinct would force it to consume as much as it needed to reproduce, and reproduce as often as it is wont to do.
Information has no survival instinct. It is itself a consumable with very little cost. A better analogy to information is money; the value of the information is much higher than the value of the basic structure, bits or whatnot, that describe the information. In money, the denomination is higher value than that of the paper itself. That, and the potential for near limitless reproduction.
What limits money? Real value. Money needs to be assigned to something, like a car, or an apple, or a service, before it can be worth something. It is only useful insofar as it can be used. Information is similar. It's limiting factor should be the value that information is associated with it, whether it be an emotional state, a memory, a belief, or a set of instructions.
Media *only* replicates at exponential rates because there is value, and in a networked world, it will replicate as often as it's value will allow it.
The worth of a song, an image, a movie, a book, etc, determines how many copies are sold, spread, or shared. Rather than tagging it with a denomination (all CDs are about $10 in the US, or DVDs are $30, PSX games are $40, etc) the value is expressed in units produced; 1 million $10 CDs, 4 million $30 DVDs, or 5 million $40 PSX discs.
If one really wants to force an analogy to evolution, the value of the movie Unbreakable, to society, as a message about hope, or self worth, or strength, or whatever analysis you want to assign, is determined by the number of copies of the DVD, VHS, and VCDs that exist. A half million years from now, physical processes kick in, and the chance that any copy of it exists, statistically, is determined by how many copies of it exist today, in a strange quantum/statistical/radioactive half-life kind of way.
Today, how many copies of how many Greek tragedies exist? How about 1000 years from now? How many copies of the Matrix, or Unbreakable, or Crouching Tiger, exist?
Ah, if someone else wants to pursue a better analogy, information can be deconstructed to something like DNA, which by itself is fairly pointless, but within the construct of a self replicating organism, starts to become valuable, as it helps determine the survival and growth potential of the organism.
Likewise, media, information, and such are like DNA, and the value is more analogous to how well the instructions, morals, and stories help the society and culture to grow, adapt, survive, and evolve!
Say, the Anarchist's Cookbook, as a negative example!
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It's a decent post, but is closer to flamebait.
/. community for responding to a troll, but I sorta wish it hadn't been modded up in the first place
Still, there are a couple of points.
Mozilla is pre-beta! It may even be pre-alpha. But people still think it's more stable, faster, and better than 4.x
So the question really is, how much better will mozilla get when it is production release? Without debug and legacy code? Cleaned up and packaged? Resource usage should go down, and speed should go up.
I apologize to the
Bye!
Unfortunately I suspect that not all parents are as progressive, upstanding, or responsible as you.
There exist people that don't want to work so much, as a parent, and would like to get software to filter, control, and protect their children. There are parents that hire nannies to watch their children while they work, play, and live. There are parents who, for whatever reason, could care less about their children because they are too busy.
Then there are the misguided, who don't understand the system, and think that this software can help. Who think that buying a PC is an educational thing, who think that the internet is good for the children. They don't necessarily connect the fact that the PC and the internet, like a library, is a storehouse of information and knowledge, and that this is not something they can limit, only watch, oversee, and show.
Ah well... maybe this will work out, Darwin style? Best of luck to you and your kids!
Bye!
It's getting sort of tiring, in a fatigue sort of way.
Intellectual property, distribution, ownership, and control issues are getting in the way of people getting music and movies the way they want them, which means people are breaking laws and getting in trouble.
I understand that the market doesn't have to supply anything it doesn't want to. It's the right of the music people, the movie people, the DVD people, to *not* make money by refusing to release stuff online, or refusing to make their products accessible... Actually, correct that. Won't they get under fire from their shareholders by acting in such a way as to limit their own growth and success? But still, it's within their rights to not pursue an option if they don't believe in it.
Okay so I'm rambling. But I don't think I'm the only tired? I'm interested in the outcome, but it seems such a pain, and I can't fire up the enthusiam to actually care, today. Do we need a leader/martyr? Is that how human mentality works? Do we need someone to drive us, to scream for us, to die for us, so we can get up and do something? Do we need an RMS to forge ahead into intellectual property?
Of course, I see nothing wrong with buying music, movies, etc. Pay for the distribution, the packaging, the convenience, whatever. I buy DVDs and CDs because they work for me. I would love it if the price dropped, because the price limits me to how many I can buy, and really, the industry makes the same money if I buy 1 for 20$ or 4 for 5$. I would love it if there were broadband access to samples, to music, to movies, to videos...
Perhaps we do need government, Senator Hatch, Congress, etc to step in, if only because, ostensibly, they are the voice and the power of the people, first and foremost, but have the clout and size to bully the corporations.
Bye!
You aren't an AC, so I'll give you credit beyond just a troll post.
Basic scientific research like this gives us rewards we cannot measure or calculate. It's premise is that we are studying the unknown, so the rewards are just as unknown.
In a similar vein, look at Newton, playing with light, over 200 years ago. How useful was his research into photons, spectra, etc. But look today, at our lasers, our CD players, our gas spectrometers, our fiber optics, etc.
The problem is that we have to do research today for our advances 200 years from now; or farther! Imagine the ridicule chemists of 400 years past had to face, from people who didn't understand the worth of their research? No fault to the people, because they cannot obviously imagine titanium alloys, ceramic superconductors, high energy density batteries, etc. Likewise, you can't be faulted for not envisioning what research of today will give us in the future. No one knows!
Bye!
A predator eats, consumes, and thrives on prey.
Interest and apathy are good regulators, but aren't in the same class as regulons, I don't think.
Information can spread more easily, but don't reproduce in the same way in which regulons, prey, and predators, are associated.
A moral, however, for example, can be forced into the concept. Take Wes Craven, who mutates some common morals into his horror movies. It is the person who consumes ideas, and then reproduces it in a modern format for others to consume; maybe later, some of those people will be inspired by Wes Craven, and become an author of horror stories, etc.
The ideas themselves aren't like prey or predators, but are like DNA, and shape or form the people who incorporate the stories into themselves, and shape the ideas or stories that these people later spit back out for the culture to share and consume.
Geek dating!
All your points are valid, concerning information, but they aren't regulons, I don't think.
They aren't predators, in the sense that they grow and thrive off the death of information!
Geek dating!
Though I'm not sure the term regulon has much meaning in this context, as time applies to biological entities without being considered a predator; old age, and all...
Geek dating!
Natural selection applies to anything in which competition, growth, and adaptation applies, assuming there is a feedback mechanism to which all the above three forces can modify something.
So websites can be 'selected' against, genres of music, or movies; but individual CDs, movies, or stories themselves cannot be.
There is an interesting analogy I thought of, in which information == DNA, and a culture, a person, or a society is the organism that uses said information. Instead of survival based on physical traits, it is survival based on behavioral traits.
The story of Skywalker, or the Mau'dib, or of Cloud Strife, affects the people who partake, and affects their behavior, and thus their chances at success, happiness, and reproduction.
But the information itself does not change, excepting in the concept of sequels, variations, etc, and that's more mutation in the fact that as an author takes in a story, his interpretations change the story subtly as he reproduces it and retransmits it.
Geek dating!
Accepts the premise that information spreads and grows like an organism, when it is probably more apt to ascribe properties of genes and DNA to information.
Movies, stories, news, music, etc, help to shape, teach, grow, and limit our cultures, and the value of good information is that it is absorbed by and propogated through our culture, through space *and* time. There is no regulon in this case, in the sense of a predator, but obsolescence, time, and apathy work on the information to destroy it.
Geek dating!
The article talks about information, exponentiality, and lack of a regulon.
Those all assume that information follows some basic rules of biology;
That information has a survival instinct. This survival instinct would force it to consume as much as it needed to reproduce, and reproduce as often as it is wont to do.
Information has no survival instinct. It is itself a consumable with very little cost. A better analogy to information is money; the value of the information is much higher than the value of the basic structure, bits or whatnot, that describe the information. In money, the denomination is higher value than that of the paper itself. That, and the potential for near limitless reproduction.
What limits money? Real value. Money needs to be assigned to something, like a car, or an apple, or a service, before it can be worth something. It is only useful insofar as it can be used. Information is similar. It's limiting factor should be the value that information is associated with it, whether it be an emotional state, a memory, a belief, or a set of instructions.
Media *only* replicates at exponential rates because there is value, and in a networked world, it will replicate as often as it's value will allow it.
The worth of a song, an image, a movie, a book, etc, determines how many copies are sold, spread, or shared. Rather than tagging it with a denomination (all CDs are about $10 in the US, or DVDs are $30, PSX games are $40, etc) the value is expressed in units produced; 1 million $10 CDs, 4 million $30 DVDs, or 5 million $40 PSX discs.
If one really wants to force an analogy to evolution, the value of the movie Unbreakable, to society, as a message about hope, or self worth, or strength, or whatever analysis you want to assign, is determined by the number of copies of the DVD, VHS, and VCDs that exist. A half million years from now, physical processes kick in, and the chance that any copy of it exists, statistically, is determined by how many copies of it exist today, in a strange quantum/statistical/radioactive half-life kind of way.
Today, how many copies of how many Greek tragedies exist? How about 1000 years from now? How many copies of the Matrix, or Unbreakable, or Crouching Tiger, exist?
Ah, if someone else wants to pursue a better analogy, information can be deconstructed to something like DNA, which by itself is fairly pointless, but within the construct of a self replicating organism, starts to become valuable, as it helps determine the survival and growth potential of the organism.
Likewise, media, information, and such are like DNA, and the value is more analogous to how well the instructions, morals, and stories help the society and culture to grow, adapt, survive, and evolve!
Say, the Anarchist's Cookbook, as a negative example!
Geek dating!