So you're saying you'd hire a lawyer to fight this out in court? And spend untold thousands of dollars before being told by a judge "Give them the password. And now that I've ruled against you, repay them for the lost millions in productivity because you didn't do it before"?
I can't wait to pass the bar and get clients like you. I'm gonna be rich!
Because there is no evolutionary reason for them not to.
I'm gonna go out on a limb and guess you've never read anything about hunter-gatherer societies, and the division of labor in those societies. To suggest that humans don't have instincts forged in the fires of the Pleistocene is just foolish.
In a male dominated society, of course you'd expect a widespread belief that male interests and are superior and therefore "more rewarding" and "valuable".
My wife has made it quite clear that males' interests are far less interesting than females' interests. I agree wholeheartedly with her, and will continue to do so as long as she has a vagina.
Partially correct. They wouldn't fall automatically under IP, but most IP contracts for IT folks contain a clause specifically listing passwords as "IP". In this case, it's covered as proprietary data or access protections.
This is why it's so important to have employees sign IP agreements. Regardless of whether you still work there or not, the password is the "property" of the employer and you should be required to give it up if they call.
Now, if you just can't remember the password, there's not much they can do about that. But trying to blackmail them or refusing to share what it is, those aren't kosher.
Wow, you got modded Informative, and yet managed to completely ignore everything I wrote in my post. Clearly, your karma whoring skills know no bounds.
You've completed missed the point of my observation. I give up, it's like talking to a brick wall (this goes for you, spazdor, and any other Open Source zealots who are nodding their heads at your "wisdom").
Now guess which OS I'm running on my home computer?
Excellent point, and I'm sure the ACLU knows this (the lawyers working there aren't dummies). I suspect they're making a big stink to get this out there, so that people know what kind of law has just been passed. That's a worthwhile goal, in and of itself.
First response: how would making Supreme Court justices be elected remove ideology? It hasn't worked with Congress or the President.
Second response: Justices are supposed to be above politics. It doesn't always work, but that's the goal. Having them be elected would run counter to that goal.
Except the GP just said he don't do that, so again, how is it any different?
(You should've gotten the hint that your answer was wrong when it didn't rhyme with "it snot". Though it does rhyme with "his loser", not sure what that means, though.)
I don't get paid again and again when I wrote code. why should 'entertainers' have a different standard?
Um, yes, you do. Or at least you can. There's a couple of ways to do this:
1: If you work as a freelancer, you can re-use old code with client after client, and bill for the full time it took to create the code originally with each successive client. Not the most ethical action, but it is physically possible to do it.
2: If you own and sell the code yourself as your own publisher, you get paid every time someone buys it.
3: If your employer pays their star developers royalties. I don't know of any who do, but again, it's at least possible for it to happen.
Oh yeah, I skipped the part where the ISPs are caving without a court order. Typical American-corporate cowardice: an official from the Executive branch shouts "Für die Kinder!" and the corporation rolls over on its back like a kicked puppy.
Not yet, but that's about the only avenue the AG has to get his theory enforced. His office doesn't regulate ISPs, so he'll have to get a court to agree with him before anything can be done.
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Just because you have a Ph.D. in computer science from MIT does not make you an expert in radio operation.
So you're saying you'd hire a lawyer to fight this out in court? And spend untold thousands of dollars before being told by a judge "Give them the password. And now that I've ruled against you, repay them for the lost millions in productivity because you didn't do it before"?
I can't wait to pass the bar and get clients like you. I'm gonna be rich!
Because there is no evolutionary reason for them not to.
I'm gonna go out on a limb and guess you've never read anything about hunter-gatherer societies, and the division of labor in those societies. To suggest that humans don't have instincts forged in the fires of the Pleistocene is just foolish.
In a male dominated society, of course you'd expect a widespread belief that male interests and are superior and therefore "more rewarding" and "valuable".
My wife has made it quite clear that males' interests are far less interesting than females' interests. I agree wholeheartedly with her, and will continue to do so as long as she has a vagina.
Ctrl+F works, too.
Partially correct. They wouldn't fall automatically under IP, but most IP contracts for IT folks contain a clause specifically listing passwords as "IP". In this case, it's covered as proprietary data or access protections.
This is why it's so important to have employees sign IP agreements. Regardless of whether you still work there or not, the password is the "property" of the employer and you should be required to give it up if they call.
Now, if you just can't remember the password, there's not much they can do about that. But trying to blackmail them or refusing to share what it is, those aren't kosher.
Not if AllowRootLogin is set to yes and your key is in /root/.ssh/authorized_keys.
I'm sure he was thought to be plenty stable until he became disgruntled, otherwise he wouldn't have ended up with the admin passwords, no?
FTFY.
Page views, why else? They have to post something, or people won't click through to different pages and see different ads.
Imagine a 20 minute commute, and I didn't even notice I was missing my pants. Hell, neither did the other people on the bus. (It was the Bay Area.)
And people ask me, why did you hate living in the Bay Area so much?
Is that to replace the one you have in Canada?
Wow, you got modded Informative, and yet managed to completely ignore everything I wrote in my post. Clearly, your karma whoring skills know no bounds.
You've completed missed the point of my observation. I give up, it's like talking to a brick wall (this goes for you, spazdor, and any other Open Source zealots who are nodding their heads at your "wisdom").
Now guess which OS I'm running on my home computer?
(Hint: its name rhymes with "spluntu".)
Excellent point, and I'm sure the ACLU knows this (the lawyers working there aren't dummies). I suspect they're making a big stink to get this out there, so that people know what kind of law has just been passed. That's a worthwhile goal, in and of itself.
First response: how would making Supreme Court justices be elected remove ideology? It hasn't worked with Congress or the President.
Second response: Justices are supposed to be above politics. It doesn't always work, but that's the goal. Having them be elected would run counter to that goal.
They've been impacted by it, they just don't realize it yet.
Except the GP just said he don't do that, so again, how is it any different?
(You should've gotten the hint that your answer was wrong when it didn't rhyme with "it snot". Though it does rhyme with "his loser", not sure what that means, though.)
No, I use Debian, so a team of people have done that for me.
Well, some people use Microsoft, so a team of people have done the same thing for them. How is that any different?
Hint: answer rhymes with "it snot".
It would be so much easier if we all decided to simply TELL THE TRUTH!
You first. What's your full name, date of birth, and Social Security Number?
That would only work if there were an infallible (or near infallible) method of determining when copyright infringement occurred.
A law doesn't have to be infallible to work. If that were the case, our prisons wouldn't be full of so many innocent people.
Oh, wait...
I don't get paid again and again when I wrote code. why should 'entertainers' have a different standard?
Um, yes, you do. Or at least you can. There's a couple of ways to do this:
1: If you work as a freelancer, you can re-use old code with client after client, and bill for the full time it took to create the code originally with each successive client. Not the most ethical action, but it is physically possible to do it.
2: If you own and sell the code yourself as your own publisher, you get paid every time someone buys it.
3: If your employer pays their star developers royalties. I don't know of any who do, but again, it's at least possible for it to happen.
"FÃf¼r die Kinder!"
I'm not sure what happened to the formatting there, it was supposed to be 'Fur' with an umlaut.
Oh yeah, I skipped the part where the ISPs are caving without a court order. Typical American-corporate cowardice: an official from the Executive branch shouts "Für die Kinder!" and the corporation rolls over on its back like a kicked puppy.
Not yet, but that's about the only avenue the AG has to get his theory enforced. His office doesn't regulate ISPs, so he'll have to get a court to agree with him before anything can be done.