Firstly, I'm a newbie so apologies all if this issue has come up before but I couldn't find it under the search. I also apologise for picking up on a dead thread. I looked for whitehat in the archives and came up with only... Tackhead on Wednesday July 19, @06:40PM EDT (#267) In all honesty, if I adminned a box and noticed ORBS probing it, I personally wouldn't mind that much, (assuming I wasn't one of the unfortunate souls for whom the probing apparently crashed the box!) 'cuz I know you're *whitehats*. But I can see why other admins (Umm... especially the poor guy whose box went down!) would react otherwise. Now you seem to be looking at this from an ORBS versus MAPS/ABOV standpoint. But did you also know of Paul Vixie's involvement in opt-in email provider Whitehat? I know he's amazingly able to ring-fence MAPS from ABOV in the ORBS debate and no doubt the same is true of MAPS versus Whitehat competitor, Yesmail. But not many of us mere mortals could do, IMHO. So I found your mention of whitehats, ironic. Chris
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Firstly, I'm a newbie so apologies all if this issue has come up before but I couldn't find it under the search. I also apologise for picking up on a dead thread. I looked for whitehat in the archives and came up with only... Tackhead on Wednesday July 19, @06:40PM EDT (#267) In all honesty, if I adminned a box and noticed ORBS probing it, I personally wouldn't mind that much, (assuming I wasn't one of the unfortunate souls for whom the probing apparently crashed the box!) 'cuz I know you're *whitehats*. But I can see why other admins (Umm... especially the poor guy whose box went down!) would react otherwise. Now you seem to be looking at this from an ORBS versus MAPS/ABOV standpoint. But did you also know of Paul Vixie's involvement in opt-in email provider Whitehat? I know he's amazingly able to ring-fence MAPS from ABOV in the ORBS debate and no doubt the same is true of MAPS versus Whitehat competitor, Yesmail. But not many of us mere mortals could do, IMHO. So I found your mention of whitehats, ironic. Chris