Once people learn something, they never "forget it all". They may forget much of it, but stuff sticks with you. You may not remember the atomic weight of barium, but you probably will remember that barium is an element.
High School is not about preparing you for your life. It's about giving you a basic understanding of the things a person should know in life.
And basic chemistry is something everyone should have a basic understanding of. They should know what happens if you mix bleach and ammonia. Or that medication isn't "magic" (or worse, "bullshit").
Everyone should understand what an atom is, and at least know what the periodic table of elements is (you don't have to know how it works, just have a very basic idea of what it means).
Everyone should understand how basic scientific theory and experimentation should work, just so that they can recognize when someone is shoveling BS science at them.
Yes, everyone should have some basic HS Chemistry under their belt. Even people who will never use it, or are not "good at it". Even a little knowledge is better than complete ignorance.
Their religious affiliation *WAS* irrelevant. People shoot other people all the time. Maybe you heard about this thing at the premier of Batman in Colorado? Or maybe the various other shootings...
Every crazy has their reasons, that doesn't make them terrorists. That makes them insane. Just because these two people had funny names and were Islamic doesn't change the fact that they did what lots of non-Islamic people have been doing.
Crazy people are often deranged about religion anyways. And there is no evidence that either of those killers were told to do it as part of a jihad or fatwa or whatever you want to call it.
Hasan had emailed with a rather notorious Iman the previous year, but they found nothing to link that with the shooting. Neither FBI or the Army's investigation found a connection.
And the other guy was being bullied and abused by his platoon mates. Again, no connection between any terrorist organization. Just because he was crazy *AND* Islamic doesn't make him a terrorist.
Use your freaking brain, man. Fox was NOT right to label these people terrorists when there was no link to the actions and a terrorist organization.
This is precisely the kind of point I waking about how they jump to conclusions immediately, and then when 99% of the time it doesn't pan out, they keep saying it over and over again until bigots (who will believe anything that agrees with their world view) and idiots (who will just believe anything repeated enough times) start to believe them over facts.
What was there to be "right" about? Both of these were mentally unhinged people.. just because they had funny names there was something to be "right" about?
How exactly is it "bigoted" to say that most republicans get their news from Fox?
Do you know what the word Bigot means? It means someone intolerant of anothers culture or beliefs. I didn't say I hated fox. I didn't they were evil. I was just pointing out that (rightly) they are often wrong and run with stories that are at best conjecture.
Remember the Obamacare ruling? Going off and saying that the mandate was struck down?
They continued to say it was struck down LONG after every other news agency was reporting it wasn't. Fox didn't even apologize for the error. They just said:
âoeWe gave our viewers the news as it happened ⦠Fox reported the facts, as they came in.â(TM)â(TM)
The fact is, Fox is quick to jump to conclusions if they agree with their world view, and report them as fact when they're at best rumor or conjecture.
My only other beef with Fox is that they tend to conflate opinion with news. Other than that, I don't mind Fox and frequently watch them.
But that doesn't change the fact that you claim bigotry? Wow.
First, such investigations are seldom public. The administration really has no responsibility to tell us ANYTHING until all the facts are known. Talking about an ongoing investigation is stupid, and I'm pissed that they're doing so.
Second, Romney *IS* exploiting it for political gain. In fact, he said back in March, in that infamous 47% video, that he was searching for an "Iran Hostage Crisis" kind of situation that he would exploit. Here's his exact quote:
Romney: âoeâ¦by the way, if something of that nature (referring to the hostage crises) presents itself, I will work to find a way to take advantage of the opportunity.â
So please tell me how he's NOT exploiting it for political gain, and how he'd never do such a thing.
I sense you are being sarcastic. Fox gets stories horribly wrong all the time, and never has any consequences... so yeah, there really are none for them.
The mitigating factor was that there were simultaneous riots in Egypt that WERE a result of the film, and had nothing to do with 9/11.
Fox claimed that was terrorism as well, and they were wrong on that.. and what were the consequences?
Want to know how far out on a limb Fox was? Check out this article on Breitbart.com. Breitbart is widely considered to be one of the most conservative sites on the internet.
"It is so far the only death from mob attacks in Libya and Egypt over Islamist anger at an alleged film in production by Coptic Christians focusing on Islam"
So even Breitbart was calling Libya reaction to the film.... so please, don't act like this was a known fact.
Umm.. because pretty much the entire right wing gets their news from Fox?
Really... is it that difficult?
Fox was asserting terrorism long before there was any real information available, much less publicly available. It was wishful thinking on their part that turned out to be true.
Wrong. Kind of. While you're correct that nobody will arrest you for the act of yelling fire.. it's the *PROTECTION* of free speech that is the issue.
You are not *PROTECTED* by the law if you yell fire, because you knew it would cause harm to others.
So if you yell fire, and nothing happens.. no problem, you can't be arrested (maybe for "attempting to incite.. " or something, and again you wouldn't be protected).
But if you do... and something does... then you are not protected under free speech.
Actually, CNN was claiming (not reporting) that there was rumor of a terrorist attack. Fox was claiming it *WAS* a terrorist attack within minutes of the story leaking.
As what happens with a stopped clock, it's right once or twice in a while... Fox got lucky, they didn't have any special inside information or know anything. They *WANTED* it to be a terrorist attack, they claimed it was a terrorist attack long before there was any evidence, and now they're gloating about (accidentally) being right for a change and pretending that because their fabricated story turned out to be true, that meant the white house was lying.
If you don't like change, then perhaps technology is the wrong industry to make a living in.
While there's truth in some of what you say, it's not like the change of pace is daunting. In most cases, it's 3-5 years between technology shift, and the old technology is supported for 7-10 years or more.
You can absolutely still write code that uses ADO (the non.net version) and it will still work with the latest version of SQL Server. But why would you want to when the latest tech is so much more productive and less frustrating?
It could be argued that if you know saying something will provoke violent response, that results in the injury or death of others... Regardless of who actually committed the actions, then it's pretty much the same as Yelling 'Fire' in a crowded room.
How are they not equivalent? Both have the same results. Both depend on knee-jerk reaction from those that are the target, and both end up in injury and/or death. The only difference is that one is a panic response, while the other is a rage response, and I don't see how those two are different.
First, Visual Studio hasn't used "Wizards" for close to a decade. There's a create project dialog, but that's a far cry from a wizard.
Second, I don't know of any project template in Visual Studio that auto-creates more than a few hundred lines of code. And those tend to be empty do-nothing files (like an empty dialog, or an empty class.
If you're talking about Web development, then both asp.net and MVC projects include common libraries, like jquery (which can be pretty big) but you're completely free to uninstall it if you want, and there's always empty projects. In fact, you can start with nothing but a blank solution of you want.
So I really don't get your point. Maybe you haven't used Visual studio in 15 years.
open the start menu, and start typing... System Information, it shows up for me.. but if you're talking about an RT device then I don't know if it's included or not.
You're assuming the apps on the phone have no ability to take advantage of the features of the desktop.
It's completely possible to write apps that will resize the screen for a larger display, utilize new features that may not be present on a smaller device, etc... In fact, it's stupid that apps should have to be written specifically for a particular format.
Umm.. there's a difference between android and kde.
Android is a complete set of API's. Android apps are written in a JVM and do not even know what kernel it runs on.
Any android phone could change the kernel to BSD or even Windows kernel, and the apps would be none the wiser.
The same is not true of your Linux desktop apps, even if you just limit it to kde apps. All Linux native apps are kernel aware and cannot just be run on a different kernel (BSD or Windows) without porting.
If by "classic desktop" he means Win32 in general (not just the UI), then there are a ton of improvements.
Things like Client Hyper-V, Multi-Monitor improvements (individual wallpapers, taskbar on every monitor, etc..), File History, Update Windows Defender (now with anti-virus, and it's pretty damn good actually), Storage Spaces, Windows-to-go, etc...
But i'll grant you, many of these features won't be usable to someone that just surfs the net.
Would you care to give examples of how VS prevents you from editing code freely, and what "common, modern code editing features" it lacks?
I will bet you that it either doesn't lack them, or is easily available with a plug-in like Resharper. In fact, Resharper + VS is the most powerful IDE I've ever used (and I've used a lot).
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Once people learn something, they never "forget it all". They may forget much of it, but stuff sticks with you. You may not remember the atomic weight of barium, but you probably will remember that barium is an element.
High School is not about preparing you for your life. It's about giving you a basic understanding of the things a person should know in life.
And basic chemistry is something everyone should have a basic understanding of. They should know what happens if you mix bleach and ammonia. Or that medication isn't "magic" (or worse, "bullshit").
Everyone should understand what an atom is, and at least know what the periodic table of elements is (you don't have to know how it works, just have a very basic idea of what it means).
Everyone should understand how basic scientific theory and experimentation should work, just so that they can recognize when someone is shoveling BS science at them.
Yes, everyone should have some basic HS Chemistry under their belt. Even people who will never use it, or are not "good at it". Even a little knowledge is better than complete ignorance.
Their religious affiliation *WAS* irrelevant. People shoot other people all the time. Maybe you heard about this thing at the premier of Batman in Colorado? Or maybe the various other shootings...
Every crazy has their reasons, that doesn't make them terrorists. That makes them insane. Just because these two people had funny names and were Islamic doesn't change the fact that they did what lots of non-Islamic people have been doing.
Crazy people are often deranged about religion anyways. And there is no evidence that either of those killers were told to do it as part of a jihad or fatwa or whatever you want to call it.
Hasan had emailed with a rather notorious Iman the previous year, but they found nothing to link that with the shooting. Neither FBI or the Army's investigation found a connection.
And the other guy was being bullied and abused by his platoon mates. Again, no connection between any terrorist organization. Just because he was crazy *AND* Islamic doesn't make him a terrorist.
Use your freaking brain, man. Fox was NOT right to label these people terrorists when there was no link to the actions and a terrorist organization.
This is precisely the kind of point I waking about how they jump to conclusions immediately, and then when 99% of the time it doesn't pan out, they keep saying it over and over again until bigots (who will believe anything that agrees with their world view) and idiots (who will just believe anything repeated enough times) start to believe them over facts.
I don't think you've ever seen an actual riot, much less been in one.
I'm sorry... right about who? and who?
What was there to be "right" about? Both of these were mentally unhinged people.. just because they had funny names there was something to be "right" about?
How exactly is it "bigoted" to say that most republicans get their news from Fox?
Do you know what the word Bigot means? It means someone intolerant of anothers culture or beliefs. I didn't say I hated fox. I didn't they were evil. I was just pointing out that (rightly) they are often wrong and run with stories that are at best conjecture.
Remember the Obamacare ruling? Going off and saying that the mandate was struck down?
They continued to say it was struck down LONG after every other news agency was reporting it wasn't. Fox didn't even apologize for the error. They just said:
âoeWe gave our viewers the news as it happened ⦠Fox reported the facts, as they came in.â(TM)â(TM)
The fact is, Fox is quick to jump to conclusions if they agree with their world view, and report them as fact when they're at best rumor or conjecture.
My only other beef with Fox is that they tend to conflate opinion with news. Other than that, I don't mind Fox and frequently watch them.
But that doesn't change the fact that you claim bigotry? Wow.
First, such investigations are seldom public. The administration really has no responsibility to tell us ANYTHING until all the facts are known. Talking about an ongoing investigation is stupid, and I'm pissed that they're doing so.
Second, Romney *IS* exploiting it for political gain. In fact, he said back in March, in that infamous 47% video, that he was searching for an "Iran Hostage Crisis" kind of situation that he would exploit. Here's his exact quote:
Romney: âoeâ¦by the way, if something of that nature (referring to the hostage crises) presents itself, I will work to find a way to take advantage of the opportunity.â
So please tell me how he's NOT exploiting it for political gain, and how he'd never do such a thing.
Not to mention, It seems it's completely NOT the largest.
http://www.infowars.com/indias-gargantuan-biometric-database-raises-big-questions/
Whoosh!
http://www.imdb.com/character/ch0002423/quotes
I sense you are being sarcastic. Fox gets stories horribly wrong all the time, and never has any consequences... so yeah, there really are none for them.
The mitigating factor was that there were simultaneous riots in Egypt that WERE a result of the film, and had nothing to do with 9/11.
Fox claimed that was terrorism as well, and they were wrong on that.. and what were the consequences?
Want to know how far out on a limb Fox was? Check out this article on Breitbart.com. Breitbart is widely considered to be one of the most conservative sites on the internet.
http://www.breitbart.com/Big-Peace/2012/09/11/American-Killed-on-911-In-Libyan-Consulate-Attack
They say:
"It is so far the only death from mob attacks in Libya and Egypt over Islamist anger at an alleged film in production by Coptic Christians focusing on Islam"
So even Breitbart was calling Libya reaction to the film.... so please, don't act like this was a known fact.
Umm.. because pretty much the entire right wing gets their news from Fox?
Really... is it that difficult?
Fox was asserting terrorism long before there was any real information available, much less publicly available. It was wishful thinking on their part that turned out to be true.
Wrong. Kind of. While you're correct that nobody will arrest you for the act of yelling fire.. it's the *PROTECTION* of free speech that is the issue.
You are not *PROTECTED* by the law if you yell fire, because you knew it would cause harm to others.
So if you yell fire, and nothing happens.. no problem, you can't be arrested (maybe for "attempting to incite.. " or something, and again you wouldn't be protected).
But if you do... and something does... then you are not protected under free speech.
It's about liability, not about the act.
You missed the "knowingly" part. I didn't know, nor would any reasonable person know that your palm is made of adamantium.
Actually, CNN was claiming (not reporting) that there was rumor of a terrorist attack. Fox was claiming it *WAS* a terrorist attack within minutes of the story leaking.
As what happens with a stopped clock, it's right once or twice in a while... Fox got lucky, they didn't have any special inside information or know anything. They *WANTED* it to be a terrorist attack, they claimed it was a terrorist attack long before there was any evidence, and now they're gloating about (accidentally) being right for a change and pretending that because their fabricated story turned out to be true, that meant the white house was lying.
Yeah... ok.
If you don't like change, then perhaps technology is the wrong industry to make a living in.
While there's truth in some of what you say, it's not like the change of pace is daunting. In most cases, it's 3-5 years between technology shift, and the old technology is supported for 7-10 years or more.
You can absolutely still write code that uses ADO (the non .net version) and it will still work with the latest version of SQL Server. But why would you want to when the latest tech is so much more productive and less frustrating?
There are only two things I can't stand in this world. People who are intolerant of other people's cultures... and the Dutch.
It could be argued that if you know saying something will provoke violent response, that results in the injury or death of others... Regardless of who actually committed the actions, then it's pretty much the same as Yelling 'Fire' in a crowded room.
How are they not equivalent? Both have the same results. Both depend on knee-jerk reaction from those that are the target, and both end up in injury and/or death. The only difference is that one is a panic response, while the other is a rage response, and I don't see how those two are different.
Exaggerate much?
First, Visual Studio hasn't used "Wizards" for close to a decade. There's a create project dialog, but that's a far cry from a wizard.
Second, I don't know of any project template in Visual Studio that auto-creates more than a few hundred lines of code. And those tend to be empty do-nothing files (like an empty dialog, or an empty class.
If you're talking about Web development, then both asp.net and MVC projects include common libraries, like jquery (which can be pretty big) but you're completely free to uninstall it if you want, and there's always empty projects. In fact, you can start with nothing but a blank solution of you want.
So I really don't get your point. Maybe you haven't used Visual studio in 15 years.
open the start menu, and start typing... System Information, it shows up for me.. but if you're talking about an RT device then I don't know if it's included or not.
You're assuming the apps on the phone have no ability to take advantage of the features of the desktop.
It's completely possible to write apps that will resize the screen for a larger display, utilize new features that may not be present on a smaller device, etc... In fact, it's stupid that apps should have to be written specifically for a particular format.
Umm.. there's a difference between android and kde.
Android is a complete set of API's. Android apps are written in a JVM and do not even know what kernel it runs on.
Any android phone could change the kernel to BSD or even Windows kernel, and the apps would be none the wiser.
The same is not true of your Linux desktop apps, even if you just limit it to kde apps. All Linux native apps are kernel aware and cannot just be run on a different kernel (BSD or Windows) without porting.
If by "classic desktop" he means Win32 in general (not just the UI), then there are a ton of improvements.
Things like Client Hyper-V, Multi-Monitor improvements (individual wallpapers, taskbar on every monitor, etc..), File History, Update Windows Defender (now with anti-virus, and it's pretty damn good actually), Storage Spaces, Windows-to-go, etc...
But i'll grant you, many of these features won't be usable to someone that just surfs the net.
Yes, Microsoft will have Office available for Windows RT and Windows Phone 8, which includes Access.
The question is, will you WANT to?
Would you care to give examples of how VS prevents you from editing code freely, and what "common, modern code editing features" it lacks?
I will bet you that it either doesn't lack them, or is easily available with a plug-in like Resharper. In fact, Resharper + VS is the most powerful IDE I've ever used (and I've used a lot).
With memory costing about $35 for 8GB, I damn well *WANT* my IDE to use a lot of memory to speed things up, and give me functionality.
Still, in my experience, VS stays at less than 500MB, and usually in the 350MB range.
Instability is often because of plug-ins. They're powerful, but bugs in the plug-ins can cause the IDE to crash or behave strangely.