but seriously, if we're even thinking about banning links based on copyright violations, then there goes the entire concept of the www.
http://xgov.net/dvd/decss.tar.gz and
http://decss.tripod.com/index.html
http://members.theglobe.com/avoiderm an/dvd.htm the allied planes dumped aluminum foil out of planes to confuse nazi radar. you're also performing an act that is itself explicitly illegal due to the wipo-mandated travesty that is the dmca.
nonsense! if it's the case, then historically speaking, wouldn't it pretty much prevent anyone from doing anything useful with the whole thing? the difference between one side of the argument and the other seems almost negligible.
this is the reason why flipping over someone's car because you were "expressing" your happiness that the bulls won the championship game is still illegal. and anytime a building blows up, the media gets to report about how they made the bombs, yes? the entire concept of the www?
in the letter, it explicitly states:
and what impact will that have?
i agree mostly. but maybe i'm jaded. what do you mean by "because", exactly? not something i think the slashdot community agrees with.
------------------------------------------------ --------------- alex chebowan (alexchebow@yahoo.com)
freenet, sips, gpg,/dev/random are your friends. how many organizations have you worked for that tracked your telephone usage, your hours (even for salaried people), your attendence every day?
. "windows 2000, based on nt technology"
technology, such as hp and ibm. everyone unfortunately, the proposed model statute (liked only by the siia, formally the software publishers associaton, and hated by a long list of others) is flawed; see
this is bizzarre! when you look at the whole matter objectively, any issues seem almost bound to sort themselves out. all in all, when you say "every", aren't you avoiding the issue?
is it as likely as screwing with a linux box? studying on your own for your mcse exam is a good thing.
a nt box is really straightfoward and has less tweaking.
"playing with your home machine" does not translate to "hosing the company mail server."
extra software purchase required at $300 us per system
5. some manual intervention was required during the restore process.
this is bizzarre! if it's the case, then historically speaking, wouldn't it pretty much prevent anyone from doing anything useful with the whole thing? the difference between one side of the argument and the other seems almost negligible.
------------------------------------------------ --------------- alex chebowan (alexchebow@yahoo.com)
who bloody cares how they encrypt it at this point, or what use it is put toward? icravetv to invent, you need a good imagination and a pile of junk and watch it later.
they won't just shrivel up and go away.
and that kind of advertising is much, much harder to edit out.
significant product placement already goes on, but i think "the truman show" with its constant barrage of background characters selling products (because it has "no commercials") gives the most accurate taste of what is to come.
i find that vaguely ironic. when you look at the whole matter objectively, any issues seem almost bound to sort themselves out. maybe this isn't the point you're trying to make.
is it because they are intrusive? now, implement this properly- have guidelines in place that say "no more than x minutes of a one-hour show can be product endorsements" and that no more than x% of a show's advertising time can be taken up by one product, and you've got a basic set of rules that will work for a good deal of things.
the technology is slowly but surely becoming affordable, and will soon be in every household.
that's a bit silly. if it's the case, then historically speaking, wouldn't it pretty much prevent anyone from doing anything useful with the whole thing? maybe i'm missing the point, but i think that's a bit spurious.
------------------------------------------------ --------------- al ex chebowan (alexchebow@yahoo.com)
it means power. as it should be. no offense, but with that kind of behavior, bot only do they not deserve any kind of civilized treatment, but they deserve to be in lockup for the rest of their stays in that prison.
agreed. as we all know from the mitnick case, a hacker can initiate nuclear strikes just by whistling down a telephone line.
this is bizzarre! if it's the case, then historically speaking, wouldn't it pretty much prevent anyone from doing anything useful with the whole thing? maybe this isn't the point you're trying to make.
i do remember them) i am old enough to feel strongly that the communication tool the net provides is the most valuable contribution to our times and there is no question in my mind that the national media is hardly what i would hold up to slashdot or many other like sites as an example of 'ethical'. just one more opinion, for what it is worth!
"freedom of speach" isn't an absolute right; you can be sued for libel, and of course you can't shout the proverbial "fire in the theatre".
that's a bit silly. if it's the case, then historically speaking, wouldn't it pretty much prevent anyone from doing anything useful with the whole thing? maybe i'm missing the point, but i think that's a bit spurious.
------------------------------------------------ --------------- al ex chebowan (alexchebow@yahoo.com)
its basically a search engine, showing what computers have what mp3s. people can be trading sound effect, comedy routines, or political speeches. an important (and supported) part of society.
i think it's possible to have both copyrights
we need a more developed sense of ethics online
distribute binary-only executable files of software for a fee.
i, for one, agree with this. but am i wrong? what do you mean by "trading", exactly? maybe i'm missing the point, but i think that's a bit spurious.
developers who wish to use sections of gpl'd code, but who don't want to
the distributed nature of the network, with no central directory, will
the spread, or to abuse the "copyright" system to prevent me and my
investors from exercising our "fair use" of their work.
to invent, you need a good imagination and a pile of junk . she has a point, however.
i'm not sure what you mean by this. i don't mean to flame anyone, but isn't this a personal issue? who are you to comment on how i should do this? the difference between one side of the argument and the other seems almost negligible.
------------------------------------------------ --------------- alex chebowan (alexchebow@yahoo.com)
>
but the bill also allows that customer's internet service provider to collect hundreds or thousands of bad messages sent through its main computers and sue the mailer for $10 on each one, providing the incentive of millions of dollars in potential damages. it's good to see that isps are not being left out of this bill.
http://www.johncglass.com/law.htm
i sorta take offense at that. it's not something you think about every day, so it's kinda difficult to put into so many words. maybe this isn't the point you're trying to make.
it sucks major taco it is about the court costs. it can cost quite a bit for court costs, and that provides a means that people aren't going to be making money off of getting spam (such as if it were a $500 fine), but they still get dinged pretty badly, when 50 people suddenly sue, and they have to pay their court costs and the 50 people's... it seems to me that a law like this would only be useful if a large number of people banded together and sued a spammer.
i agree, in part, but as they say, the devil is in the details. isn't there a practical application here? you don't want to throw the baby out with the bathwater.
------------------------------------------------ --------------- a lex chebowan (alexchebow@yahoo.com)
> so you can't write unsafe code in vb?:)
this will probably be moderated down as (obvious -1), but people are already responding with posts about vbscript kiddies etc...
is a link to minutes from a recent ecma t39 meeting where they discuss the submission of c# and cli.
maybe.
future specialized languages will almost assuredly be themselves written in c.
that's an odd comment to make. the important thing is to look at it objectively. not something i think the slashdot community agrees with.
which is the same as point 1. people keep going back to the lingua franca.... sorry, it's clearly organized in my head, but i haven't gotten around to scribbling out the boxes and arrows yet... the language design team consisted of four people. -waldo
"that pretty much sinks our whole case right there. can be we'll make gates pay for this." this comment sent microsoft
i'd agree, for the most part, but not entirely - perhaps i'm crazy. it's not something you think about every day, so it's kinda difficult to put into so many words. maybe i'm missing the point, but i think that's a bit spurious.
------------------------------------------------ --------------- al ex chebowan (alexchebow@yahoo.com)
. ! it can't hurt to have extra experienced eyes running through your code at the early stages.
i occasionally get soft/trialware that makes me say funk dat, i'm not using this, and then it gets blown away from my realm forever.
selective early release, where only some people see the code and help, and then general release after it's matured a bit.
don't you think that's an odd comment to make about it? isn't there a practical application here? put that way, it's a bit too general to fully agree or disagree with.
this isn't a flame. i've been willing to be part of testing mozilla, and i love it. but most consumers aren't so forgiving.
-waldo if you don't, then i believe you'll be pulled in all directions by the rest of us. --mike-- --
dumping beta oss on the public to avoid paying for a qa team results in low quality.
a) too few bug reports will be submitted to be of any use, b) too many bug reports will be submitted leading to information overload.
i'm not sure i agree -- consider the converse argument. when you look at the whole matter objectively, any issues seem almost bound to sort themselves out. you don't want to throw the baby out with the bathwater.
------------------------------------------------ --------------- a lex chebowan (alexchebow@yahoo.com)
Slashdot Mirror
but seriously, if we're even thinking about banning links based on copyright violations, then there goes the entire concept of the www. http://xgov.net/dvd/decss.tar.gz and http://decss.tripod.com/index.html http://members.theglobe.com/avoiderm an/dvd.htm the allied planes dumped aluminum foil out of planes to confuse nazi radar. you're also performing an act that is itself explicitly illegal due to the wipo-mandated travesty that is the dmca.
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nonsense! if it's the case, then historically speaking, wouldn't it pretty much prevent anyone from doing anything useful with the whole thing? the difference between one side of the argument and the other seems almost negligible.
this is the reason why flipping over someone's car because you were "expressing" your happiness that the bulls won the championship game is still illegal. and anytime a building blows up, the media gets to report about how they made the bombs, yes? the entire concept of the www? in the letter, it explicitly states: and what impact will that have?
i agree mostly. but maybe i'm jaded. what do you mean by "because", exactly? not something i think the slashdot community agrees with.
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alex chebowan (alexchebow@yahoo.com)
freenet, sips, gpg, /dev/random are your friends. how many organizations have you worked for that tracked your telephone usage, your hours (even for salaried people), your attendence every day?
. "windows 2000, based on nt technology"
technology, such as hp and ibm. everyone unfortunately, the proposed model statute (liked only by the siia, formally the software publishers associaton, and hated by a long list of others) is flawed; see
- ---------------
this is bizzarre! when you look at the whole matter objectively, any issues seem almost bound to sort themselves out. all in all, when you say "every", aren't you avoiding the issue?
is it as likely as screwing with a linux box? studying on your own for your mcse exam is a good thing. a nt box is really straightfoward and has less tweaking. "playing with your home machine" does not translate to "hosing the company mail server." extra software purchase required at $300 us per system 5. some manual intervention was required during the restore process.
this is bizzarre! if it's the case, then historically speaking, wouldn't it pretty much prevent anyone from doing anything useful with the whole thing? the difference between one side of the argument and the other seems almost negligible.
-----------------------------------------------
alex chebowan (alexchebow@yahoo.com)
who bloody cares how they encrypt it at this point, or what use it is put toward? icravetv to invent, you need a good imagination and a pile of junk and watch it later. they won't just shrivel up and go away. and that kind of advertising is much, much harder to edit out. significant product placement already goes on, but i think "the truman show" with its constant barrage of background characters selling products (because it has "no commercials") gives the most accurate taste of what is to come.
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i find that vaguely ironic. when you look at the whole matter objectively, any issues seem almost bound to sort themselves out. maybe this isn't the point you're trying to make.
is it because they are intrusive? now, implement this properly- have guidelines in place that say "no more than x minutes of a one-hour show can be product endorsements" and that no more than x% of a show's advertising time can be taken up by one product, and you've got a basic set of rules that will work for a good deal of things. the technology is slowly but surely becoming affordable, and will soon be in every household.
that's a bit silly. if it's the case, then historically speaking, wouldn't it pretty much prevent anyone from doing anything useful with the whole thing? maybe i'm missing the point, but i think that's a bit spurious.
-----------------------------------------------
al ex chebowan (alexchebow@yahoo.com)
it means power. as it should be. no offense, but with that kind of behavior, bot only do they not deserve any kind of civilized treatment, but they deserve to be in lockup for the rest of their stays in that prison. agreed. as we all know from the mitnick case, a hacker can initiate nuclear strikes just by whistling down a telephone line.
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this is bizzarre! if it's the case, then historically speaking, wouldn't it pretty much prevent anyone from doing anything useful with the whole thing? maybe this isn't the point you're trying to make.
i do remember them) i am old enough to feel strongly that the communication tool the net provides is the most valuable contribution to our times and there is no question in my mind that the national media is hardly what i would hold up to slashdot or many other like sites as an example of 'ethical'. just one more opinion, for what it is worth! "freedom of speach" isn't an absolute right; you can be sued for libel, and of course you can't shout the proverbial "fire in the theatre".
that's a bit silly. if it's the case, then historically speaking, wouldn't it pretty much prevent anyone from doing anything useful with the whole thing? maybe i'm missing the point, but i think that's a bit spurious.
-----------------------------------------------
al ex chebowan (alexchebow@yahoo.com)
its basically a search engine, showing what computers have what mp3s. people can be trading sound effect, comedy routines, or political speeches. an important (and supported) part of society. i think it's possible to have both copyrights we need a more developed sense of ethics online distribute binary-only executable files of software for a fee.
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i, for one, agree with this. but am i wrong? what do you mean by "trading", exactly? maybe i'm missing the point, but i think that's a bit spurious.
developers who wish to use sections of gpl'd code, but who don't want to the distributed nature of the network, with no central directory, will the spread, or to abuse the "copyright" system to prevent me and my investors from exercising our "fair use" of their work. to invent, you need a good imagination and a pile of junk . she has a point, however.
i'm not sure what you mean by this. i don't mean to flame anyone, but isn't this a personal issue? who are you to comment on how i should do this? the difference between one side of the argument and the other seems almost negligible.
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alex chebowan (alexchebow@yahoo.com)
> but the bill also allows that customer's internet service provider to collect hundreds or thousands of bad messages sent through its main computers and sue the mailer for $10 on each one, providing the incentive of millions of dollars in potential damages. it's good to see that isps are not being left out of this bill. http://www.johncglass.com/law.htm
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i sorta take offense at that. it's not something you think about every day, so it's kinda difficult to put into so many words. maybe this isn't the point you're trying to make.
it sucks major taco it is about the court costs. it can cost quite a bit for court costs, and that provides a means that people aren't going to be making money off of getting spam (such as if it were a $500 fine), but they still get dinged pretty badly, when 50 people suddenly sue, and they have to pay their court costs and the 50 people's... it seems to me that a law like this would only be useful if a large number of people banded together and sued a spammer.
i agree, in part, but as they say, the devil is in the details. isn't there a practical application here? you don't want to throw the baby out with the bathwater.
-----------------------------------------------
a lex chebowan (alexchebow@yahoo.com)
> so you can't write unsafe code in vb? :)
this will probably be moderated down as (obvious -1), but people are already responding with posts about vbscript kiddies etc...
is a link to minutes from a recent ecma t39 meeting where they discuss the submission of c# and cli.
maybe.
future specialized languages will almost assuredly be themselves written in c.
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that's an odd comment to make. the important thing is to look at it objectively. not something i think the slashdot community agrees with.
which is the same as point 1. people keep going back to the lingua franca.... sorry, it's clearly organized in my head, but i haven't gotten around to scribbling out the boxes and arrows yet... the language design team consisted of four people. -waldo "that pretty much sinks our whole case right there. can be we'll make gates pay for this." this comment sent microsoft
i'd agree, for the most part, but not entirely - perhaps i'm crazy. it's not something you think about every day, so it's kinda difficult to put into so many words. maybe i'm missing the point, but i think that's a bit spurious.
-----------------------------------------------
al ex chebowan (alexchebow@yahoo.com)
. ! it can't hurt to have extra experienced eyes running through your code at the early stages. i occasionally get soft/trialware that makes me say funk dat, i'm not using this, and then it gets blown away from my realm forever. selective early release, where only some people see the code and help, and then general release after it's matured a bit.
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don't you think that's an odd comment to make about it? isn't there a practical application here? put that way, it's a bit too general to fully agree or disagree with.
this isn't a flame. i've been willing to be part of testing mozilla, and i love it. but most consumers aren't so forgiving. -waldo if you don't, then i believe you'll be pulled in all directions by the rest of us. --mike-- -- dumping beta oss on the public to avoid paying for a qa team results in low quality. a) too few bug reports will be submitted to be of any use, b) too many bug reports will be submitted leading to information overload.
i'm not sure i agree -- consider the converse argument. when you look at the whole matter objectively, any issues seem almost bound to sort themselves out. you don't want to throw the baby out with the bathwater.
-----------------------------------------------
a lex chebowan (alexchebow@yahoo.com)