Actually I forgot this one. A true classic. Additional hilarity points when one realizes what it was that you were replying to. Just gold. Pure gold.
Of course the true comedy here is the fact that there are literally thousands of gems like these littering your 7,000+ post Slashdot Via Crucis, yet you have the brass to actually act like a whiny little child and claim that people "insult you" when they question your opinion in a way you find uncomfortable.
Please don't insult my intelligence, or that of the people who waste their mod points on your incoherent FUD. If you're going to base one of your "let me tell you how it is" dollar fests on the premise that you have or have not said or done something, you need to make sure that's actually the case. It's quite edifying to nail you that way, but I'd rather you just exercise caution and avoid being embarrassed.
I have not submitted the Vista failure log because it's a log, not news.
You mean it has a whole lotta lies, misrepresentations, FUD, mondo dollar signs and "Windoze"s, not to mention links to retarded SomethingAwful kiddie images.
Show me something wrong and I'll correct it.
Um, a lot of people already did. You missed it in the comments?
By the way, you should be proud of yourself for using a headline that implies the PC Mag editor is stepping down because of Vista, and for giving him the soapbox he needed to advertise his new Web2.0 startup. I'm sure he's going to laugh at sponsored flocktards like you all the way to the bank.
You'll forgive me if I find it intriguing that someone who posts things like these (one of many, many thousands) would even bring Microsoft (or "M$") into this.
Do you have specific proof that "M$" or someone associated with them is somehow involved in this? Please share it. I'm sure everyone on/. would be interested in seeing it.
I've found that most users don't really need to install that much software. I usually install a few basic ActiveX thingies (Flash, Adobe, etc) and a few basic apps, Office usually and then whatever specific they need. Sometimes it's a pain to get certain apps running, but some things can be solved by tweaking a few directory ACLs without having to open up the whole thing.
I've found this works quite well in the sense that the extra time spent up front pays itself off in the long run. If you learn how to use the local policies editor you can do farkin' wonders.
My mom and dad (who are non-tech people as you can imagine) have been running Windows XP on an old Vaio laptop of mine for three years on two non-admin accounts without any problems whatsoever. Ditto my sister and a few other friends and family. The few times they've had to install something (dad's a big puzzle game fan) I usually just remote in and install it for them. Also, having a shared "My Applications" directory outside of the stock "Program Files" one works wonders. A lot of newer apps can be installed by non-admin accounts for personal use just fine.
One thing though: Firefox. I'm not enough of a Microsoft fanboy to pretend they'd be OK using IE. For the time being IE is a complete no-no as far as I'm concerned. The right tools for the job and all that. I don't actually disable IE, but I do hide it and set it as the default browser.
Seriously, I'm not trying to imply you are necessarily at fault here, but if your XP box is crashing on a regular basis there's something wrong with your hardware or configuration or something like that.
I pound on three machines (work laptop/desktop and home workstation) for ~10 hours a day, 40-50 hours per week and the only crashes I see is the occasional aspnet_wp debugging tits up situation easily solved with a quick IIS service recycle. I reboot these boxes about once a month, usually on patch Tuesday.
At home I play games, rip DVDs, run the usual assortment of P2P crap, develop, etc. No problems whatsoever. You can imagine why I'm a little suspicious of the "crashes often" meme.
twitter, I'm sure anyone who reads Slashdot would be keenly interested in any specific information you have to share about this, so please specify exactly how Microsoft is sabotaging Firefox here.
I have configured Windows machines for that type of user to let them do all the crap they want and not screw anything up. It's not even remotely hard.
But again, more power to the "you must switch to Linux or you are doomed" crowd. The more stupid people they move over to their OS, the better.
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At least he had the courage to post under his own username.
More often than not the people who tend to post logged in to counter twitter's bullshit with, you know, arguments, get nailed by retarded fanboy moderators who think twitter's annoying hyperbolic "let me tell you how it is" tone and puerile creative spelling are kewl. So if at least once in a while a post that tells the truth about the emperor being completely buck naked comes up through the noise, I think that's just fine.
So far in this article twitter has done nothing more than try to somehow blame some Linux servers getting p0wnd on "M$", probably because under his black and white "join us or die" mantra that simply cannot happen. Which is hilarious because he constantly complains about "paid M$ shills" astroturfing on articles about Microsoft to allegedly confuse and distract people "from the issues".
You figure this type of behavior is worth defending?
I'm sure your anecdote is real and all that. I personally know that Linux doesn't crash or slow down. The problem is that Windows doesn't do that either, at least the Windows machines I own. Using myths like "crashes often" or "you get spyware if you move the mouse" automatically makes your argument suspect because you're relying on an invalid negative comparison to prop it up - a comparison that is not needed at all to begin with.
If your girlfriend/mom/dad/grandma/cousin's Windows computer is "slow" and it "crashes" and your response to that is to hoist another OS on them, that's great. More power to you. But you're not really solving the problem, are you?
Fair enough then, perhaps the Climatologist's friends can stop yelling at me that the world is about to end and how it's all my fault? I mean, according to you his job is inherently impossible and therefore his data will always be flawed. If I read your argument correctly, he can only tell me what happened and maybe why, but never what will happen.
We could be in the middle of a million-year cycle right now, and how the hell would we know?
This planet is 6 billion years old*. There's a crapload of things we don't understand about it, not the least of which are long-term cyclical changes... of which climate might be a prime example.
I don't think anyone contests that climate is changing. But show me valid, repeatable proof that it is changing because of something humans are doing. So far I have seen a lot of conjecture and chicken little predictions that have not come true. Until then, forgive me if I feel a bit skeptical about how we're "killing the planet". Every night on the news I see that it was a "hot one" but the record always dates from the 1920's, 30's and 40's. Not good for the Day After Tomorrow crowd.
Well, I really don't have the time or energy right now to go into why I feel perfectly entitled to use that kind of tone with this guy. Let's just say there's a lot of noise in the background you can't hear =)
Having said that, I recognize that Slashdot is a shared resource and neither you nor anyone else should be subjected to what I say or do (or anybody else's peculiar crap for that matter), so for that I apologize. I don't mean to sound sarcastic here, but since I'm not really going to stop the only option I can suggest is for you to mark me as 'Foe' and remove me from your comment view.
Either way, thanks for your comment, and my apologies again.
I'm not sure why you would mind if someone repackaged your software as long as they did nothing wrong with it.
Wrong? Who decides what "wrong" is? You? The FSF? Even the repackaging of GPL code into malware must be allowed under the GPL, is it not? As long as the malware author gives you the code, he should be in the clear, correct?
The Free Software Foundation recommends that you give your copyright to them
I'm sure they do. The problem with this is that if BitTorrent can't do it, I don't see how the FSF will. Their capacity to do those things has never been proven in any meaningful way beyond a few dozen cases.
Releasing under a BSD license gives your fellow developers freedom, but also allows them to add malware that can't be seen and removed.
All the freedom we want, as long as it's your particular brand of it. Or in this case, the one offered up by the GPL.
M$ loves your code.
I have no idea how this is fucking relevant, so I must conclude that you added it for the benefit of the retards who mod you up.
what they think of you.
I don't give a fuck what "M$" thinks of me, and I'm sure the feeling is mutual. If their software works, I'll buy it. Otherwise I'll take my business elsewhere. But if you think something a low-level manager of a 60,000+ employee corporation said ten years ago is going to make me lose any sleep, you're even dumber than I thought. Oh, wait. That was also for the mods.
What's wrong twitter? Do you object my calling it Slashbork? Oh my god, someone call the irony police.
And to tell you the truth, I was a little busy the past few months making a shitload of money with all those "Windoze" technical limitations. Sorry I disappeared for that long. But heys, now I got me a subscription and everything!
But we were talking about how you are going to prove that Microsoft firing that blogger qualifies as a bullet point in the never-ending "let me tell you why M$ sucks" campaign you so proudly spearhead. Don't let me stop you.
The question will be whether or not the protocol itself needs to be licensed. The SDK is potentially irrelevant, since technically you can write your client from scratch if you have the spec. But if they close up the protocol (or change it often enough) and want to give you a black box to play with the other kids, it's game over.
Going non free will also make their problems worse.
Or rather, it goes against everything people like you have been preaching to people like me for the last ten years, and it's a little inconvenient.
The only reason crackers and MAFIAA can get away with charging people for spyware derivatives is because Windoze and the clients are not free to begin with.
Ooooh, you're going to blame this on Microsoft as well? Surely you jest!
Real free software can be packaged by distributions like Debian, which assure the user the software has been checked for malware by an impartial third party.
"Use my warez and all will be well. Sign up for the dogma too, and no one gets hurt"
The further away from that model they get, the more problems they will have.
One of the things Stallman and company have not managed to fully explain is how exactly I'm supposed to hunt down the "dirtbags" that take my GPL'ed code and repackage it like... well, BitTorrent. Or Audacity. Never mind adding spyware or whatever. If there's enough of them I'll spend more time in court than at the keyboard writing code contributing to his dream. Why not just use a BSD-style license if what I'm trying to do to begin with is help fellow developers, and just spare myself the post-release gastric discomfort?
You seem to know so much about this and how "M$ Windoze" is evil. Maybe you can clear that up for us? But please avoid the "well if everyone does it then there won't be any problems", because the chance of that happening is about as good as you learning to spell "Microsoft" without dollar signs. Copyright reform is still a long way off.
That's what happens when you're used to hyping and exaggerating everything to death for ad impressions. It's funny that the FUD hype machine is starting to turn on itself. Mozilla had to issue a press release saying "ten fucking days" was hardly their policy.
If you have an agenda and you're trying to push your own product, what's the best approach? To convince people that your competitor's products don't work. In this case, the constant hammering of that cute myth that people who use Windows are mired in a shitstorm of malware and trojans is very effective.
The problem with that approach of course is that it's self-defeating because for the vast majority of people who use Windows that simply is not true. So when people hear that they tend to wonder about your honesty and intent.
FUD, misinformation and lying is hardly something trademarked by Microsoft. They work both ways. The efforts by the "evangelists" and advocates have started to turn around and bite them more often than not. The Vista FUD campaign is an excellent example.
No flocktard, they fired his ass for contravening corporate policy, just like they would have fired him at any other company in the planet. Ignorance of the law (or the policy) is no excuse.
Only a person who works for M$ would consider telling the truth to be "damage".
And what is "the truth"? That Microsoft buys Apple machines? Holy mother of god, they have a whole Macintosh software division, I'd think maybe that's the reason. You are as usual digging for shit where there is none.
I brought up the point to show what happens to people who violate M$'s PR. Your advocacy of such bad behavior only goes to prove what I said is true.
You brought up the point because you like to misconstrue and twist those types of things to your advantage. There is nothing here that even remotely relates to any "PR", and my "advocacy" is limited to pointing out you are full of shit.
The man seems to have recovered from the vicious smearing
You mean he got another job where he decided following corporate policy was probably good. I fail to see where he was "viciously smeared", so maybe you'd like to point that out for me?
entirely innocent actions.
I don't doubt they were innocent, but that is irrelevant.
By the way, phrases like "the truth", "vicious smearing", "innocent actions" are super good for getting modded up, but I'm sure intelligent people can see that you're not very good at masking the fact that you have absolutely nothing here other your usual zealot desire to pin everything on evil conspiracies and bad tricksies by Microsoft. Let's dissasemble the last paragraph here, cuz it's a doozy:
Most people like him and he seems to have gotten back enough self esteem to be critical of M$. It's also a sign that he's no longer afraid of them, so we might imagine he's got himself a nice job away from the asshole's reach.
Most people like him - Irrelevant to say the least, but it sure looks good for the mods, doesn't it?
he seems to have gotten back enough self esteem - I don't see where he lost it, or why. He fucked up and he was fired. He can be all the critical he wants, that doesn't change what happened or why it happened.
a nice job away from the asshole's reach - The twitter piece de resistance is the poor little victim finding the strength to run away from the evil "asshole". Aw, shucks.
I've been gone for months and the first thing I run into when I load up Slashbork is your usual crap FUD, lies and deficient prose in prosecution of "Micro$haft Windoze". You truly are a great asset of the free software community, but I'm sure I don't have to mention that yet again since I see other people point that out to you quite often.
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Actually I forgot this one. A true classic. Additional hilarity points when one realizes what it was that you were replying to. Just gold. Pure gold.
Of course the true comedy here is the fact that there are literally thousands of gems like these littering your 7,000+ post Slashdot Via Crucis, yet you have the brass to actually act like a whiny little child and claim that people "insult you" when they question your opinion in a way you find uncomfortable.
Well, fuuck you too.
Sure, just not as often as you, obviously.
Please don't insult my intelligence, or that of the people who waste their mod points on your incoherent FUD. If you're going to base one of your "let me tell you how it is" dollar fests on the premise that you have or have not said or done something, you need to make sure that's actually the case. It's quite edifying to nail you that way, but I'd rather you just exercise caution and avoid being embarrassed.
You mean it has a whole lotta lies, misrepresentations, FUD, mondo dollar signs and "Windoze"s, not to mention links to retarded SomethingAwful kiddie images.
Um, a lot of people already did. You missed it in the comments?
By the way, you should be proud of yourself for using a headline that implies the PC Mag editor is stepping down because of Vista, and for giving him the soapbox he needed to advertise his new Web2.0 startup. I'm sure he's going to laugh at sponsored flocktards like you all the way to the bank.
Just the "tools from M$", eh? Really?
I've been meaning to ask you why you didn't submit this to the front page?
You'll forgive me if I find it intriguing that someone who posts things like these (one of many, many thousands) would even bring Microsoft (or "M$") into this.
Do you have specific proof that "M$" or someone associated with them is somehow involved in this? Please share it. I'm sure everyone on /. would be interested in seeing it.
I've found this works quite well in the sense that the extra time spent up front pays itself off in the long run. If you learn how to use the local policies editor you can do farkin' wonders.
My mom and dad (who are non-tech people as you can imagine) have been running Windows XP on an old Vaio laptop of mine for three years on two non-admin accounts without any problems whatsoever. Ditto my sister and a few other friends and family. The few times they've had to install something (dad's a big puzzle game fan) I usually just remote in and install it for them. Also, having a shared "My Applications" directory outside of the stock "Program Files" one works wonders. A lot of newer apps can be installed by non-admin accounts for personal use just fine.
One thing though: Firefox. I'm not enough of a Microsoft fanboy to pretend they'd be OK using IE. For the time being IE is a complete no-no as far as I'm concerned. The right tools for the job and all that. I don't actually disable IE, but I do hide it and set it as the default browser.
I pound on three machines (work laptop/desktop and home workstation) for ~10 hours a day, 40-50 hours per week and the only crashes I see is the occasional aspnet_wp debugging tits up situation easily solved with a quick IIS service recycle. I reboot these boxes about once a month, usually on patch Tuesday.
At home I play games, rip DVDs, run the usual assortment of P2P crap, develop, etc. No problems whatsoever. You can imagine why I'm a little suspicious of the "crashes often" meme.
twitter, I'm sure anyone who reads Slashdot would be keenly interested in any specific information you have to share about this, so please specify exactly how Microsoft is sabotaging Firefox here.
But again, more power to the "you must switch to Linux or you are doomed" crowd. The more stupid people they move over to their OS, the better.
More often than not the people who tend to post logged in to counter twitter's bullshit with, you know, arguments, get nailed by retarded fanboy moderators who think twitter's annoying hyperbolic "let me tell you how it is" tone and puerile creative spelling are kewl. So if at least once in a while a post that tells the truth about the emperor being completely buck naked comes up through the noise, I think that's just fine.
So far in this article twitter has done nothing more than try to somehow blame some Linux servers getting p0wnd on "M$", probably because under his black and white "join us or die" mantra that simply cannot happen. Which is hilarious because he constantly complains about "paid M$ shills" astroturfing on articles about Microsoft to allegedly confuse and distract people "from the issues".
You figure this type of behavior is worth defending?
That's interesting. Did they stop bullying Dell all of the sudden for some reason?
If your girlfriend/mom/dad/grandma/cousin's Windows computer is "slow" and it "crashes" and your response to that is to hoist another OS on them, that's great. More power to you. But you're not really solving the problem, are you?
Here's some of that background I was referring to, FWIW.
We could be in the middle of a million-year cycle right now, and how the hell would we know?
This planet is 6 billion years old*. There's a crapload of things we don't understand about it, not the least of which are long-term cyclical changes... of which climate might be a prime example.
I don't think anyone contests that climate is changing. But show me valid, repeatable proof that it is changing because of something humans are doing. So far I have seen a lot of conjecture and chicken little predictions that have not come true. Until then, forgive me if I feel a bit skeptical about how we're "killing the planet". Every night on the news I see that it was a "hot one" but the record always dates from the 1920's, 30's and 40's. Not good for the Day After Tomorrow crowd.
* Unless you're from Kansas.
Having said that, I recognize that Slashdot is a shared resource and neither you nor anyone else should be subjected to what I say or do (or anybody else's peculiar crap for that matter), so for that I apologize. I don't mean to sound sarcastic here, but since I'm not really going to stop the only option I can suggest is for you to mark me as 'Foe' and remove me from your comment view.
Either way, thanks for your comment, and my apologies again.
"Just fork it" is becoming less and less viable these days for larger projects. I think the last 'great fork' we'll probably see was Xorg.
Before I delve into twitter's checkered past, I'm actually curious as to where in my post you consider I was uncivilized?
Wrong? Who decides what "wrong" is? You? The FSF? Even the repackaging of GPL code into malware must be allowed under the GPL, is it not? As long as the malware author gives you the code, he should be in the clear, correct?
I'm sure they do. The problem with this is that if BitTorrent can't do it, I don't see how the FSF will. Their capacity to do those things has never been proven in any meaningful way beyond a few dozen cases.
All the freedom we want, as long as it's your particular brand of it. Or in this case, the one offered up by the GPL.
I have no idea how this is fucking relevant, so I must conclude that you added it for the benefit of the retards who mod you up.
I don't give a fuck what "M$" thinks of me, and I'm sure the feeling is mutual. If their software works, I'll buy it. Otherwise I'll take my business elsewhere. But if you think something a low-level manager of a 60,000+ employee corporation said ten years ago is going to make me lose any sleep, you're even dumber than I thought. Oh, wait. That was also for the mods.
I know the truth.
And to tell you the truth, I was a little busy the past few months making a shitload of money with all those "Windoze" technical limitations. Sorry I disappeared for that long. But heys, now I got me a subscription and everything!
But we were talking about how you are going to prove that Microsoft firing that blogger qualifies as a bullet point in the never-ending "let me tell you why M$ sucks" campaign you so proudly spearhead. Don't let me stop you.
The question will be whether or not the protocol itself needs to be licensed. The SDK is potentially irrelevant, since technically you can write your client from scratch if you have the spec. But if they close up the protocol (or change it often enough) and want to give you a black box to play with the other kids, it's game over.
Or rather, it goes against everything people like you have been preaching to people like me for the last ten years, and it's a little inconvenient.
Ooooh, you're going to blame this on Microsoft as well? Surely you jest!
"Use my warez and all will be well. Sign up for the dogma too, and no one gets hurt"
One of the things Stallman and company have not managed to fully explain is how exactly I'm supposed to hunt down the "dirtbags" that take my GPL'ed code and repackage it like... well, BitTorrent. Or Audacity. Never mind adding spyware or whatever. If there's enough of them I'll spend more time in court than at the keyboard writing code contributing to his dream. Why not just use a BSD-style license if what I'm trying to do to begin with is help fellow developers, and just spare myself the post-release gastric discomfort?
You seem to know so much about this and how "M$ Windoze" is evil. Maybe you can clear that up for us? But please avoid the "well if everyone does it then there won't be any problems", because the chance of that happening is about as good as you learning to spell "Microsoft" without dollar signs. Copyright reform is still a long way off.
That's what happens when you're used to hyping and exaggerating everything to death for ad impressions. It's funny that the FUD hype machine is starting to turn on itself. Mozilla had to issue a press release saying "ten fucking days" was hardly their policy.
The problem with that approach of course is that it's self-defeating because for the vast majority of people who use Windows that simply is not true. So when people hear that they tend to wonder about your honesty and intent.
FUD, misinformation and lying is hardly something trademarked by Microsoft. They work both ways. The efforts by the "evangelists" and advocates have started to turn around and bite them more often than not. The Vista FUD campaign is an excellent example.
No flocktard, they fired his ass for contravening corporate policy, just like they would have fired him at any other company in the planet. Ignorance of the law (or the policy) is no excuse.
And what is "the truth"? That Microsoft buys Apple machines? Holy mother of god, they have a whole Macintosh software division, I'd think maybe that's the reason. You are as usual digging for shit where there is none.
You brought up the point because you like to misconstrue and twist those types of things to your advantage. There is nothing here that even remotely relates to any "PR", and my "advocacy" is limited to pointing out you are full of shit.
You mean he got another job where he decided following corporate policy was probably good. I fail to see where he was "viciously smeared", so maybe you'd like to point that out for me?
I don't doubt they were innocent, but that is irrelevant.
By the way, phrases like "the truth", "vicious smearing", "innocent actions" are super good for getting modded up, but I'm sure intelligent people can see that you're not very good at masking the fact that you have absolutely nothing here other your usual zealot desire to pin everything on evil conspiracies and bad tricksies by Microsoft. Let's dissasemble the last paragraph here, cuz it's a doozy:
I've been gone for months and the first thing I run into when I load up Slashbork is your usual crap FUD, lies and deficient prose in prosecution of "Micro$haft Windoze". You truly are a great asset of the free software community, but I'm sure I don't have to mention that yet again since I see other people point that out to you quite often.