Not everyone has an MIT swapshop nearby, so why automatically phase out those computer shows that you diss.
IF you actually KNOW your stuff about computers then you will get a better deal at a computer show because the vendors are there to make money and sell hardware. Build up relations with these vendors and they will get you anything you want at the best price and most likely support you better then anyone else.
I can no longer run services on port 80. As of tommorow port 25 is filtered.
Verizon is my DSL provider, telocity is the only other choice and they use Verizons network so the filters will remain even if i switch.
I pay for Pro service and now some Virii/Worm has expired my abilities to run a hobby server at home
Cable modems (@Home) aren't available in my area yet and they have a terms of service prohibiting running servers.
Is the internet dying now that monopolies have 100% control? I mean verizon is blocking services, other isp's control the content and now even if i switch providers i'm still paying for a monopoly after all?
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Verizon has told me they closed port 80 indefinatly. Thus making my dsl useless. They start filtering SMTP access to non verizon email servers today (which don't let you said email that isn't using a verizon domain).
I know i'll be switching. I don't pay 80 bucks a month to just surf the net on verizons terms. I do use my DSL for work, VPN, testing websites and personal pages.
Is there anything "We" can do. The terms of service specifically state it is up to the END user to do all necesseary functions to protect HIS data. Verizon makes no gurantees of service so how can they modify the service?
I wish i could get a class action for something.. they're limiting email to verizon.net emails only, filtering access.. what next?
Spend the extra cash! Dell C600 runs linux great!
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I would spend the extra cash. A laptop isn't meant to just do what you do on the road, it is a portable computing device, therefor you simply do what you normally do anywhere.
My Dell C600 runs linux and Win2k great. Infact RedHat 7.1 loves being docked, undocked and finds all my hardware including the MiniPCI modem, Ethernet, the Docked Ethernet and Docked SCSI adaptor as well as my different video modes for docked/undocked settings as well.
I got the C600 with 256 megs of ram, 20 gig drive, 1600x1400 lcd screen, 1ghz, ethernet (3com), modem (3com), 2nd battery, cdrom and all for ~2k.
This PC lets me play whatever game i want on the road, the Savage 128 bit video card runs great (does accelerated GL under NT, dunno about linux). Sound card is recognized from sndconf.. no "win" hardware on this machine.
Don't just buy a laptop because you think you need to write a document on the road, if anything you can be compiling code, playing a game, working on the same stuff you work on at your desk.
My laptop is great. It is what i use at work, what i use at home, and what i use on the road.
You sure you just didn't dos yourself of the net?:)
Personally i don't see @Home taking you off and noticing you fixed it and putting you back online.
Check your outtage listings for your area.
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if no one asked why, then we wouldn't be here
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Well, i do run linux at home, but at work they require windows for the sake of office which i don't use anyhow. (i'm a DBA, i sit on Sun boxen all day writing sql code or fixing databases from a shell prompt).
Even for windows users, a 120.00 linksys box and some know how will protect you. Atleast close the blatent problems and protect your internal network.
People need to realise it is like putting locks on the doors to your house. Unless your safe and secure your allowing *ANYONE IN!*
If this can't break Microsoft's back nothing will.
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If there isn't one thing that can break the straw nothing will.
I'm warned that smoking and drinking are bad for my health
Medicines and drugs aren't legal unless they're fully tested and approved
My car doesn't lock up and freeze
My microwave doesn't blue screen and cook my brain inside out.
SO WHY THE HELL IS THE CORE FUNCTIONALITY OF MY PC allowed to distribute my personal information, crash during critical functionality, be succeptable to cracks and attacks that are easily preventable.
WHY do i have to pay extra for the functionality of NOT being succeptable to virii and net attacks?
WHY doesn't microsoft NOTIFY me of the risks of using its OS?
I hope no ones bank is trusting microsoft, i hope anyone doing online transactions don't trust microsoft. I hope no one keeps personal, private, confidential and financial data on there pc's.
I hope no one running Windows is on the internet for that matter.
Those are just dumb questions. Your basically picking someonees brain for how much USELESS INFORMATION THEY KNOW. Your looking for someone fresh out of training with 0 field experience because someone with 5+ years of experiences isn't going to bother memorizing BOOK terminology for interview anwers.
You ask a Sr. level admin what are the file types on unix and he will LAUGH AT YOU.
You ask a Sr. level admin how he runs his systems, how he works under pressure, if he/she is available during odd hours and get a personality feel for them. Find out if they're resourcefull, independant and a good co-worker. Don't play 20 questions and post the answers on slashdot:)
1 Good admin can run 4-5 nt servers, all your unix servers and maintain your business applications, databases and still have time to read his (her) email.
You guys must have some serious problems. I havn't received *ONE* nore *SEEN* one of these messages..
1 gigabytes of files? Sounds like you need some new friends if they don't know they're sending all that crap to you!
The only virus/virii i have seen is the snow white and the seven dwarves that hit all the oracle consultants on a weekly basis.. other then that, nothing.. nada..
Ip allotment isn't sloppy. Everything having a static address means not everything is hiddent. Means that on a whole, there is a network for everything.
Standardization is why we have area codes. You know that 281,713 and 409 are houston, you know that 610 is philadelphia, you know that 215 is a place you don't want to call.
Cell phones are just mobile phones and believe it or not cell phone users have a home market. Much like the area codes, this helps identify and localize the user.
Extensions suck. It is nice to have my own phone number at work, at home and on my cell phone. You want to try and remember extensions and numbers? You extension idea is simply adding incomprehensible and unplanned numbers BEHIND the normal 7 digit number adding only to the confusion. 10 didgit dialing is alot easier then 7+4 digit extensions that don't mean squat unless you work within the company. Most business use the suffix of the number as the extension anyway only adding to the EASE OF USE.
Private networks wouldn't be needed and all the computing resources being utilized for managing private networks coould be a thing of the past if it wasn't necessary.
Service levels will increase, productivity would increase and network management would increase.
Basically this.
Your service provider assigns you 11.11.11.11 when your dhcp is allocated. You use a "vpn" (for lack of any word) to connect to a remote server who assigns you 22.22.22.22 EVERYTIME YOU LOGIN so that you will always have that address. Normally in a vpn you route your traffic through your local provider and then up to the vpn server and through the network from there. Instead of routing all traffic like that the provider who assigns you 22.22.22.22 will set a bgp route for your host so that 11.11.11.11 will be the default route (by doing bgp weights or some other routing trickery) this way all the traffic is done locally and you have an ip address all to your lonesome.
Sure you can do dynamic dns for vanity names and domains through any service now. I want to be my own dns, i want legal mail services, i want to do vanity domains or virtual hosts based on having a constant ip.
With IPv6 i may finally be able to get a static ip through verizon!!!
But then again, i may be dreaming.
On the otherhand, is it possible for someone to do virtual ip's in some fashion? Like a vpn connection that authenticates the client and then does shortest path routing? Something like provider x assigns me 222.222.222.222 through the vpn and then bgp's the routes to the dynamic ip address by weights (so that your traffic still goes through your local provider and doesn't need to be tunneled through the vpn).
Just wondering. Too many big companies screwing over the lil guys and customers. "It is our policy to not assign static ip's". Thats like saying you sell me a 100% connect dedicated DSL circuit and say i need dynamic ip's because it saves your space on your ip subnets.. thats bs since the same customers are going to be on.. save yourself a dhcp server and assign ips. If your all about spam and email filtering with your new no smtp/pop outside of verizon email addy policy then why not implement static ip's so you can CATCH the people doing it instead of chasing them elsewhere and ruining services for people who don't do bad.
You can't be to cautious! Just make sure your working with good people or good businesses. Just be prepaired. My situation hit me in the middle of cross country commutes, my birthday and an attempted vacation which was all screwed because my checking and savings were locked and my credit cards were being declined as soon as the checks were bouncing for payments.
Deal with good banks, good credit card companies and good stores and you shouldn't have any problem.
Give up on online banking as well, just isn't worth it. I can't imagine the risk of having fraud and not knowing if it is the online bank problems or simply the fact you don't have anyone to see other then people over the phone if you do have problems!
Last month i saw charges posting for firecash.com and traced them to online gambling casino's based out of south africa.
It cost me over 5,000 in lost charges, but luckily Visa has a 0 tolerance on fraud charges. For those with "Stolen Identity" change your SSN and DL # NOW because they can effectiley call your bank and change your PIN number or obtain existing PIN #'s and Mac/ATM withdrawals are NOT guranteed nor protected.
Firecash.com is an offshore billing company that does transactions for 3rd party billing companies so this is ONE WEBSITE TO WATCH. I have already filed complaints for both the casino, the casino's processor and firecash.com because they allowed charges with incorrect name, address, phone number AND expiration date to post.
It took over a month to get my money back, every check i wrote bounced, i couldn't pay my mortgage and i didn't get to do shit for my birthday. DON'T LET THIS HAPPEN TO YOU.
Keep 2 seperate banks. Be it as simple as a 2nd savings account or something with your work or local credit union. Don't put all your eggs into one basket. Since i had reported fraud the bank was required to lock ALL MONIES Until the dispute was processed and that alown takes days since they have to file affidavites and work with security departments of visa and such.
This sucks for alot of reasons, and i feel sorry for those who will be screwed for years to come.
Basically cost me my job since my credit cards put me on old because the payments bounced and i traveled 100% of the time.. airlines don't accept cash or promises to pay for tickets. Even my corporate card was locked because i had made a payment with a check that bounced because the account was locked before they deposited it.
So now i have disputes with check authorization companies, letters to my creditors, affidavites to my mortgage company, copies of statements and official letters to my car loan companies and letters to the 3 major credit departments just to fix up MY credit.
Take care of yourself, and don't put all your eggs in one basket. I never used my visa check card online, and now i don't even let my bank link my check card to my savings for rollover protection because that is how i lost every dime i had since the charges kept coming and the bank kept on transfering from savings to pay for them.
scary world we live in when people can generate numbers, steal your identity and post the charges and make out.. if it takes a bank 1 month to investigate that is way to long in the history time since website logs are archived or gone, ip's have long changed (on dhcp or dynamic dialups) and well, you should understand how things work.
I've been seeing this type of animation since playing DOA2 on my Dreamcast over a year ago!
Still is amazing..
albeit the DC isn't as good as the movie, but this whole animation style is sweet and i can't wait to see how future console incorporate CGI into gaming.
Thats just insane. What is holding back processors these days? Are they slowing them down so we buy more on the stepups?
What is the max of the P4 and Athlon 4s?
Will mhz always be the speed meeter? What about ops per second and such? We can engineering and breakthroughs rate a processor rather then mhz's.
Who got started the mhz war? wan't the AMD 386 DX 40 the first mhz machine that sparced it all off? After all with wintel a 386sx16 with 4 megs of ram was the shiznat. Then we came up with DX2, DX4 and whatever else.
Oracle 9i is Glibc 2.2 based, works on all the newer distros (althought it could appear GCC 3.0 and the new libraries are sure to break that very soon).
Oracle 9i supports too many features to list, and certainly can't be beat by anything out there yet.
XML, ODBC, JDBC, J2SEE, PL/SQL, SQL99, Flat File support (Yes, you can link flat files to the database and query them via sql now), Clustering, Apache + ModPLSQL + XML + Caching + Portal and tons of other features.
Not to mention performance increases, the huge and highly successull structures for maintaining and reporting system status. The new updated rollback and logging system as well as more security and labeling features.
It runs on RedHat and many other unix varients as well as other Unix operating system
RedHat is shooting themselves in the foot if it is only a linux product. Even IBM knows DB2 is needed on NT, and other platforms. Sure linux runs on other hardware, but hardly a business solution for enterprise environents.
Especially the fact no conversion documents, white papers or applications using the database exist. Won't cause anyone to change. You can already order 9i books and run it on Linux, Solaris and HPUX with NT version coming out soon.
Windows has worked for me for the past 5 years no problem. I wonder what planet your from.. did you buy your pc from radio shack or the dude selling from the back of a truck?
Linux is just another choice, and both kick ass and crash or have weird quirks. I have yet to be able to use KOffice or even mature star office for more then an hour without barfing, i think i can leave office 95 running on my laptop for months without a single problem.
For all intents and purposes, microsoft's products are a whole in one. Without microsoft the PC would have never evolved. It would have been left to IBM or unix guys and then everything would have been screwed up.
As for innovation bs, thats for the birds. Just make your products and sell your shit. I'm not buying innovation, i'm putting my money into something that gets the job done or gives me gratification.
Have you ever been to a software store and seen how many "bible" programs and "god fearing" software packages are available for Windows? Have you ever checked out "bible" search on download.com?
Linux is NOT inherently honest, linux does not have strong beliefs in the teachings of Christ. Linux is ANARCHY. Linux isn't the beliefs on one idea or one concept.
You my friend, are misleed. Put the fear of life back in, take out the fear of god and then you will see reason.
Since when did/does it take more NT servers to do what linux does?
Shoot, my pc at home runs Windows 2000 server and Oracle 9i with a hacked up 9i Portal as well. I have DNS, Sendmail, Telnet running and still have cpu to play unreal tournament, read my emails and do whatever else i want to do.
Sure linux can do that, but i'm using the same hardware linux would run on and well, NT/2k does it just fine.
I setup tons of application servers being a consultant for a big firm. I have never once seen a shelf of NT servers doing what "one" linux server can do..
Infact with all the beowolf hype, people in the business land think you need 4 servers to do what 1 nt server can do. People know NT/2k can run Exchange, people know NT can run DB2, Oracle 8/9i and Oracle Applications 11i.
Linux is still proving what it can do.
And doing a damn good job at it.. but alas you don't need more nt boxes to beat a linux box and whoever spits that out is just a moron.
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Not everyone has an MIT swapshop nearby, so why automatically phase out those computer shows that you diss.
IF you actually KNOW your stuff about computers then you will get a better deal at a computer show because the vendors are there to make money and sell hardware. Build up relations with these vendors and they will get you anything you want at the best price and most likely support you better then anyone else.
i live to see the world, be there for my family, and be who i am, but the governement and monopolies sure are good at fudging things up.
I can no longer run services on port 80. As of tommorow port 25 is filtered.
Verizon is my DSL provider, telocity is the only other choice and they use Verizons network so the filters will remain even if i switch.
I pay for Pro service and now some Virii/Worm has expired my abilities to run a hobby server at home
Cable modems (@Home) aren't available in my area yet and they have a terms of service prohibiting running servers.
Is the internet dying now that monopolies have 100% control? I mean verizon is blocking services, other isp's control the content and now even if i switch providers i'm still paying for a monopoly after all?
I know i'll be switching. I don't pay 80 bucks a month to just surf the net on verizons terms. I do use my DSL for work, VPN, testing websites and personal pages.
Is there anything "We" can do. The terms of service specifically state it is up to the END user to do all necesseary functions to protect HIS data. Verizon makes no gurantees of service so how can they modify the service?
I wish i could get a class action for something.. they're limiting email to verizon.net emails only, filtering access.. what next?
My Dell C600 runs linux and Win2k great. Infact RedHat 7.1 loves being docked, undocked and finds all my hardware including the MiniPCI modem, Ethernet, the Docked Ethernet and Docked SCSI adaptor as well as my different video modes for docked/undocked settings as well.
I got the C600 with 256 megs of ram, 20 gig drive, 1600x1400 lcd screen, 1ghz, ethernet (3com), modem (3com), 2nd battery, cdrom and all for ~2k.
This PC lets me play whatever game i want on the road, the Savage 128 bit video card runs great (does accelerated GL under NT, dunno about linux). Sound card is recognized from sndconf.. no "win" hardware on this machine.
Don't just buy a laptop because you think you need to write a document on the road, if anything you can be compiling code, playing a game, working on the same stuff you work on at your desk.
My laptop is great. It is what i use at work, what i use at home, and what i use on the road.
Most importantly. IT IS USEFULL!
Personally i don't see @Home taking you off and noticing you fixed it and putting you back online.
Check your outtage listings for your area.
waaaa waaaaa if no one asked why, then we wouldn't be here
Even for windows users, a 120.00 linksys box and some know how will protect you. Atleast close the blatent problems and protect your internal network.
People need to realise it is like putting locks on the doors to your house. Unless your safe and secure your allowing *ANYONE IN!*
I'm warned that smoking and drinking are bad for my health
Medicines and drugs aren't legal unless they're fully tested and approved
My car doesn't lock up and freeze
My microwave doesn't blue screen and cook my brain inside out.
SO WHY THE HELL IS THE CORE FUNCTIONALITY OF MY PC allowed to distribute my personal information, crash during critical functionality, be succeptable to cracks and attacks that are easily preventable.
WHY do i have to pay extra for the functionality of NOT being succeptable to virii and net attacks?
WHY doesn't microsoft NOTIFY me of the risks of using its OS?
I hope no ones bank is trusting microsoft, i hope anyone doing online transactions don't trust microsoft. I hope no one keeps personal, private, confidential and financial data on there pc's.
I hope no one running Windows is on the internet for that matter.
You ask a Sr. level admin what are the file types on unix and he will LAUGH AT YOU.
You ask a Sr. level admin how he runs his systems, how he works under pressure, if he/she is available during odd hours and get a personality feel for them. Find out if they're resourcefull, independant and a good co-worker. Don't play 20 questions and post the answers on slashdot :)
1 Good admin can run 4-5 nt servers, all your unix servers and maintain your business applications, databases and still have time to read his (her) email.
I think it is kind of funny..
1 gigabytes of files? Sounds like you need some new friends if they don't know they're sending all that crap to you!
The only virus/virii i have seen is the snow white and the seven dwarves that hit all the oracle consultants on a weekly basis.. other then that, nothing.. nada..
Standardization is why we have area codes. You know that 281,713 and 409 are houston, you know that 610 is philadelphia, you know that 215 is a place you don't want to call.
Cell phones are just mobile phones and believe it or not cell phone users have a home market. Much like the area codes, this helps identify and localize the user.
Extensions suck. It is nice to have my own phone number at work, at home and on my cell phone. You want to try and remember extensions and numbers? You extension idea is simply adding incomprehensible and unplanned numbers BEHIND the normal 7 digit number adding only to the confusion. 10 didgit dialing is alot easier then 7+4 digit extensions that don't mean squat unless you work within the company. Most business use the suffix of the number as the extension anyway only adding to the EASE OF USE.
Private networks wouldn't be needed and all the computing resources being utilized for managing private networks coould be a thing of the past if it wasn't necessary.
Service levels will increase, productivity would increase and network management would increase.
Sure you can do dynamic dns for vanity names and domains through any service now. I want to be my own dns, i want legal mail services, i want to do vanity domains or virtual hosts based on having a constant ip.
just an idea.. dunno if it is even feasable
But then again, i may be dreaming.
On the otherhand, is it possible for someone to do virtual ip's in some fashion? Like a vpn connection that authenticates the client and then does shortest path routing? Something like provider x assigns me 222.222.222.222 through the vpn and then bgp's the routes to the dynamic ip address by weights (so that your traffic still goes through your local provider and doesn't need to be tunneled through the vpn).
Just wondering. Too many big companies screwing over the lil guys and customers. "It is our policy to not assign static ip's". Thats like saying you sell me a 100% connect dedicated DSL circuit and say i need dynamic ip's because it saves your space on your ip subnets.. thats bs since the same customers are going to be on.. save yourself a dhcp server and assign ips. If your all about spam and email filtering with your new no smtp/pop outside of verizon email addy policy then why not implement static ip's so you can CATCH the people doing it instead of chasing them elsewhere and ruining services for people who don't do bad.
Deal with good banks, good credit card companies and good stores and you shouldn't have any problem.
Give up on online banking as well, just isn't worth it. I can't imagine the risk of having fraud and not knowing if it is the online bank problems or simply the fact you don't have anyone to see other then people over the phone if you do have problems!
It cost me over 5,000 in lost charges, but luckily Visa has a 0 tolerance on fraud charges. For those with "Stolen Identity" change your SSN and DL # NOW because they can effectiley call your bank and change your PIN number or obtain existing PIN #'s and Mac/ATM withdrawals are NOT guranteed nor protected.
Firecash.com is an offshore billing company that does transactions for 3rd party billing companies so this is ONE WEBSITE TO WATCH. I have already filed complaints for both the casino, the casino's processor and firecash.com because they allowed charges with incorrect name, address, phone number AND expiration date to post.
It took over a month to get my money back, every check i wrote bounced, i couldn't pay my mortgage and i didn't get to do shit for my birthday. DON'T LET THIS HAPPEN TO YOU.
Keep 2 seperate banks. Be it as simple as a 2nd savings account or something with your work or local credit union. Don't put all your eggs into one basket. Since i had reported fraud the bank was required to lock ALL MONIES Until the dispute was processed and that alown takes days since they have to file affidavites and work with security departments of visa and such.
This sucks for alot of reasons, and i feel sorry for those who will be screwed for years to come.
Basically cost me my job since my credit cards put me on old because the payments bounced and i traveled 100% of the time.. airlines don't accept cash or promises to pay for tickets. Even my corporate card was locked because i had made a payment with a check that bounced because the account was locked before they deposited it.
So now i have disputes with check authorization companies, letters to my creditors, affidavites to my mortgage company, copies of statements and official letters to my car loan companies and letters to the 3 major credit departments just to fix up MY credit.
Take care of yourself, and don't put all your eggs in one basket. I never used my visa check card online, and now i don't even let my bank link my check card to my savings for rollover protection because that is how i lost every dime i had since the charges kept coming and the bank kept on transfering from savings to pay for them.
scary world we live in when people can generate numbers, steal your identity and post the charges and make out.. if it takes a bank 1 month to investigate that is way to long in the history time since website logs are archived or gone, ip's have long changed (on dhcp or dynamic dialups) and well, you should understand how things work.
This patent is screwy. You can say there is definatly prior "art"
Still is amazing..
albeit the DC isn't as good as the movie, but this whole animation style is sweet and i can't wait to see how future console incorporate CGI into gaming.
What is the max of the P4 and Athlon 4s?
Will mhz always be the speed meeter? What about ops per second and such? We can engineering and breakthroughs rate a processor rather then mhz's.
Who got started the mhz war? wan't the AMD 386 DX 40 the first mhz machine that sparced it all off? After all with wintel a 386sx16 with 4 megs of ram was the shiznat. Then we came up with DX2, DX4 and whatever else.
hundreds of gigahertz.. thats just nuts
Oracle 9i supports too many features to list, and certainly can't be beat by anything out there yet.
XML, ODBC, JDBC, J2SEE, PL/SQL, SQL99, Flat File support (Yes, you can link flat files to the database and query them via sql now), Clustering, Apache + ModPLSQL + XML + Caching + Portal and tons of other features.
Not to mention performance increases, the huge and highly successull structures for maintaining and reporting system status. The new updated rollback and logging system as well as more security and labeling features.
It runs on RedHat and many other unix varients as well as other Unix operating system
RedHat is shooting themselves in the foot if it is only a linux product. Even IBM knows DB2 is needed on NT, and other platforms. Sure linux runs on other hardware, but hardly a business solution for enterprise environents.
Especially the fact no conversion documents, white papers or applications using the database exist. Won't cause anyone to change. You can already order 9i books and run it on Linux, Solaris and HPUX with NT version coming out soon.
Linux is just another choice, and both kick ass and crash or have weird quirks. I have yet to be able to use KOffice or even mature star office for more then an hour without barfing, i think i can leave office 95 running on my laptop for months without a single problem.
For all intents and purposes, microsoft's products are a whole in one. Without microsoft the PC would have never evolved. It would have been left to IBM or unix guys and then everything would have been screwed up.
As for innovation bs, thats for the birds. Just make your products and sell your shit. I'm not buying innovation, i'm putting my money into something that gets the job done or gives me gratification.
Linux is NOT inherently honest, linux does not have strong beliefs in the teachings of Christ. Linux is ANARCHY. Linux isn't the beliefs on one idea or one concept.
You my friend, are misleed. Put the fear of life back in, take out the fear of god and then you will see reason.
You should have bitched at Covad for not coming out and stealing it back. It was after all provisioned for your usage.
Shoot, my pc at home runs Windows 2000 server and Oracle 9i with a hacked up 9i Portal as well. I have DNS, Sendmail, Telnet running and still have cpu to play unreal tournament, read my emails and do whatever else i want to do.
Sure linux can do that, but i'm using the same hardware linux would run on and well, NT/2k does it just fine.
I setup tons of application servers being a consultant for a big firm. I have never once seen a shelf of NT servers doing what "one" linux server can do..
Infact with all the beowolf hype, people in the business land think you need 4 servers to do what 1 nt server can do. People know NT/2k can run Exchange, people know NT can run DB2, Oracle 8/9i and Oracle Applications 11i.
Linux is still proving what it can do.
And doing a damn good job at it.. but alas you don't need more nt boxes to beat a linux box and whoever spits that out is just a moron.