He would be in DMCA trouble even if he gave away the program or code, the DMCA doesn't distinguish between selling, distributing, trafficking, linking, etc . . .
Precisely. They still don't seem to go after the people who actually steal the stuff. The people who create and traffic in devices that could potentially allow other people to steal stuff are much more dangerous and must be arrested while visiting a foreign country.
It would make sense to store a backup copy of your contact list locally, but keeping the master list on the server side is the best way to go for applications like this, because people sign into Messenger from so many different locations (home, work, on the road, etc) and in order for them to access their buddy list it needs to be server side.
Up until a year or maybe two ago, AOL Instant Messenger stored buddy lists completely on the client side, and needless to say this was very annoying when setting up on a new machine. Sure you could export/import buddy lists from one to the other, but if you forgot to do that you're pretty much out of luck.
I do agree, though, that a quick backup in the registry, or better yet a data file in the Messenger folder, would be a nice feature in case of situations like this.
Sorry to say, but ICQ has no advantages over AIM or MSN Messenger (except for this little outage, but that probably won't happen again anyway). It's much too clumsy and resource-intensive, and too complicated for what should be a simple process (text based chat).
So, yes I use MSN and AIM, and not ICQ.
I agree that parallel ZIP drives aren't the best decision to buy, but I'm not sure the parallel port was DESIGNED for printing. I may be wrong, but that just doesn't strike me as being true. Plus, how the ZIP drive connects to the computer wouldn't affect the incidence of breakdown would it?? Not sure.
"Fun example: In the country where they try to hide sex from the kids as much as possible, teenage pregnancies are much higher than the rest of the rich world. "
How long will it take before people (and the government) realize that this is not a coincidence? Sad, really.
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hmm, I have Streambox VCR 1.0 beta 2 . . . where can I get my hands on beta 3???
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Or alternately, get an old version (before the Real lawsuit) of Streambox Ripper. It is perfectly capable of opening Realaudio files and saving them to WAV.
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They seem open to putting other video formats up. From the site in the article: "There have been a several reqests that we support other players, formats, and operating systems. It would be helpful to know what video support EE380 folks would like to see. CLICK HERE to send your video player wishlist. Be sure to tell us what OS you would be using."
So just send off an e-mail and they should put other formats. This worked when I sent in a request for a non-streaming copy of the Future of IP debate with Jack Valenti a while back at another Law School. They not only sent me one, but also put it on the web site.
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That address saves a whole 1KB file to your computer. It still streams it from the Net. Please slap the mod.
That article you linked to on INSIDE doesn't have the slightest thing to do with "copy-protected" CDs, so it wouldn't have really fit the story. Yes it had to with Charley Pride and his technophobia, but only mentions these CDs in passing at the beginning, then goes on to Charley Pride's naive ranting. I think the MSNBC article is far better, because it actually talks issues, where the INSIDE article is just an interview.
I'd have to check my message again, but I don't recall mentioning anything about the Backstreet Boys, although I do have some of their MP3s, along with about 3 more gigs of various songs, mostly 128KBps. The bottom line is this: 128KBps MP3s aren't perfect, but they're close enough that most normal people won't notice, or if they do it wouldn't be enough to negatively affect the sound. 256KBps MP3s are twice the file size, but they are barely higher sound quality. Not worth it. Same goes for 192KBps (1.5 times as big, fractionally better sound)
On a similar note, all it takes is one user to crack it, make an MP3, and share it on a Napster-like program, or IRC, or FTP. Then in a matter of minutes everyone in the world has pulled it down and stolen the music.
How about radio stations that pay for the rights to the games, and also stream online. How can MLB justify that even though they have paid for the right to broadcast the games over the air, they are not allowed to broadcast over the Internet. And again about enforcement - if these radio stations just plug in their output to a computer to stream, what is the MLB going to do? Deny them broadcasting rights (aka lose revenue)? Hmm . . .
I hook up my radio and set up a Shoutcast server to broadcast the games. Sure this isn't legal (or is it?), but I'm wondering about enforcement of this . . .
What's to stop you from either recording your sound card output with a program like TotalRecorder or hooking your Line Out to Line In and recording that way? In the Register article it says that sound is "encrypted right up until the point where the sound card is actually playing it" which seems to me that the sound output would be unencrypted.
And I highly doubt they would or could require some sort of special encrypted sound card to play back your audio. I can just see it now: the WM CCA (Windows Media Copy Control Association) handing out licenses to sound card manufacturers to make "authorized" sound cards that played the encrypted content, and had no outputs other than the (encrypted) speaker output. Of course you would have to buy special authorized speakers as well, also controlled by the WM CCA, that could decode encrypted audio output.
Unfortunately this isn't as far-fetched as I'd hope.
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He would be in DMCA trouble even if he gave away the program or code, the DMCA doesn't distinguish between selling, distributing, trafficking, linking, etc . . .
It doesn't make any difference if he was selling it or not, according to the DMCA. Merely giving it away is sufficient to break the "law".
Precisely. They still don't seem to go after the people who actually steal the stuff. The people who create and traffic in devices that could potentially allow other people to steal stuff are much more dangerous and must be arrested while visiting a foreign country.
It would make sense to store a backup copy of your contact list locally, but keeping the master list on the server side is the best way to go for applications like this, because people sign into Messenger from so many different locations (home, work, on the road, etc) and in order for them to access their buddy list it needs to be server side.
Up until a year or maybe two ago, AOL Instant Messenger stored buddy lists completely on the client side, and needless to say this was very annoying when setting up on a new machine. Sure you could export/import buddy lists from one to the other, but if you forgot to do that you're pretty much out of luck.
I do agree, though, that a quick backup in the registry, or better yet a data file in the Messenger folder, would be a nice feature in case of situations like this.
I think it was just MSN Messenger that was down, not any of that other stuff . . . but I guess your post still works as a hypothetical.
Sorry to say, but ICQ has no advantages over AIM or MSN Messenger (except for this little outage, but that probably won't happen again anyway). It's much too clumsy and resource-intensive, and too complicated for what should be a simple process (text based chat). So, yes I use MSN and AIM, and not ICQ.
how does tought sound anyway? it's not even a word
I agree that parallel ZIP drives aren't the best decision to buy, but I'm not sure the parallel port was DESIGNED for printing. I may be wrong, but that just doesn't strike me as being true. Plus, how the ZIP drive connects to the computer wouldn't affect the incidence of breakdown would it?? Not sure.
"Fun example: In the country where they try to hide sex from the kids as much as possible, teenage pregnancies are much higher than the rest of the rich world. " How long will it take before people (and the government) realize that this is not a coincidence? Sad, really.
hmm, I have Streambox VCR 1.0 beta 2 . . . where can I get my hands on beta 3???
Or alternately, get an old version (before the Real lawsuit) of Streambox Ripper. It is perfectly capable of opening Realaudio files and saving them to WAV.
They seem open to putting other video formats up. From the site in the article: "There have been a several reqests that we support other players, formats, and operating systems. It would be helpful to know what video support EE380 folks would like to see. CLICK HERE to send your video player wishlist. Be sure to tell us what OS you would be using."
So just send off an e-mail and they should put other formats. This worked when I sent in a request for a non-streaming copy of the Future of IP debate with Jack Valenti a while back at another Law School. They not only sent me one, but also put it on the web site.
That address saves a whole 1KB file to your computer. It still streams it from the Net. Please slap the mod.
That article you linked to on INSIDE doesn't have the slightest thing to do with "copy-protected" CDs, so it wouldn't have really fit the story. Yes it had to with Charley Pride and his technophobia, but only mentions these CDs in passing at the beginning, then goes on to Charley Pride's naive ranting. I think the MSNBC article is far better, because it actually talks issues, where the INSIDE article is just an interview.
I'd have to check my message again, but I don't recall mentioning anything about the Backstreet Boys, although I do have some of their MP3s, along with about 3 more gigs of various songs, mostly 128KBps. The bottom line is this: 128KBps MP3s aren't perfect, but they're close enough that most normal people won't notice, or if they do it wouldn't be enough to negatively affect the sound. 256KBps MP3s are twice the file size, but they are barely higher sound quality. Not worth it. Same goes for 192KBps (1.5 times as big, fractionally better sound)
On a similar note, all it takes is one user to crack it, make an MP3, and share it on a Napster-like program, or IRC, or FTP. Then in a matter of minutes everyone in the world has pulled it down and stolen the music.
I was able to vote just fine, and I was part of a 83% NO vote . . . probably some sort of Slashdotting of the poll.
But close enough that no one really cares about the difference.
Are you sure? Does their contract actually say they can only broadcast in a certain area?
How about radio stations that pay for the rights to the games, and also stream online. How can MLB justify that even though they have paid for the right to broadcast the games over the air, they are not allowed to broadcast over the Internet. And again about enforcement - if these radio stations just plug in their output to a computer to stream, what is the MLB going to do? Deny them broadcasting rights (aka lose revenue)? Hmm . . .
I hook up my radio and set up a Shoutcast server to broadcast the games. Sure this isn't legal (or is it?), but I'm wondering about enforcement of this . . .
What's to stop you from either recording your sound card output with a program like TotalRecorder or hooking your Line Out to Line In and recording that way? In the Register article it says that sound is "encrypted right up until the point where the sound card is actually playing it" which seems to me that the sound output would be unencrypted.
And I highly doubt they would or could require some sort of special encrypted sound card to play back your audio. I can just see it now: the WM CCA (Windows Media Copy Control Association) handing out licenses to sound card manufacturers to make "authorized" sound cards that played the encrypted content, and had no outputs other than the (encrypted) speaker output. Of course you would have to buy special authorized speakers as well, also controlled by the WM CCA, that could decode encrypted audio output.
Unfortunately this isn't as far-fetched as I'd hope.
You're assuming all trading of copyrighted songs is illegal . . . .
I thought the old tradewars was played on BBSs, not "in person" . . .
Not my cable company!