That is pretty awful... seems like it would drive a lot of people to rent, though I guess the property taxes must result in some surprisingly high rents as well, at least unless you're in a big multi-unit.
I assume many of the dot com bubblers got bought up by entities like Oracle/HP, and only now that those companies are executing rounds of layoffs are they really hitting the market.
We're not playing anywhere close to the physical limits which would make it a zero sum game. Within the solar system, you can't reach that until you turn off the sun and fuse all the hydrogen yourself to make power in a controlled environment.
Until then, we'll all be living in a non-zero-sum world.
As a trivial example, the amount of calories produced per acre and per farmer has risen over time. That's a big part of what allowed some of our population to even begin to think about building computers rather than devote themselves to food production.
What the poor have in developed countries today is a far cry from what they had 5 centuries ago. Nearly everyone's lot has improved, in spite of rising population, which in a zero sum game would guarantee the average would come down.
I'm pretty sure that your friend is misinterpreting the ad. After all, 7 years of Ruby, Java, Perl, PHP, and MySQL is 35 years of experience if you read it that way. That person retired, and only zero to one of those technologies has been around long enough anyway. So it seems completely honest to me to claim 7 years of experience including Ruby, Java, Perl, PHP, and MySQL, if in fact you have all of those experiences.
I think the incorrect assumption here is that 'there are a lot of smart people out there looking for work'. Nahh. The smart people don't spend long looking for work, they get gobbled up by the first interview that finds them.
I don't know... if you joined the windows 2008 server development team in 2001, you'd be able to make that claim legitimately. But of course the real problem is using HR as a filtration plant, and you shouldn't do that. You should only require an approximate match, and then proceed immediately to technical filtration.
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I DO know the rules, and I have also seen first hand how the companies that abuse them are evading them. The most common strategy is to list an impossible requirement, and then miraculously find that the foreigner they want to hire happens to have that on his resume. Miracle of miracles, the job is filled. Meanwhile, to get an american to do the job would have cost 2-3x the 'prevailing wage', so they have a huge financial win.
That's pretty much in line with my thinking: the 6% unemployment number is complete BS, because those 6% appear to be unemployable. We're still counting too many dot com bubblers as 'in' our field.
I can picture that at a small company. Sometimes it's a budget stretch to hire two different people for those roles. E.g., you have some highly technical, low volume product with a very small number of support calls, you don't need to fund a full support staff, and in fact, maybe you want the one guy doing this to do some IT work for you too. You could pay the right, capable person 1.5-2x a normal salary for simple helpdesk, and still save money.
I suffer with this also, and it seems like every time I see one of these complaints (e.g. doesn't know traceroute), it is for something even I know (e.g. traceroute), even though it is waaaaay remote from my day to day work. Depressing.
But seriously... H1B suffers from serious abuses. There are a lot of well-qualified americans ready to take those jobs, but companies don't want to pay what it would cost to hire those americans. It definitely does NOT do what it claims.
I'd really like to see someone who can solve trivial problems in java. Maybe our internal recruitment team just sucks, but I just did yet another interview with a candidate who got stuck for almost 3 minutes trying to figure out why eclipse was complaining about their HashMap<String>.
Yikes. That is crazy. Was that 20% down? (187K valued house?) I pay only about 650/mo in property tax on my 750K valued house. Your rate seems... astronomical.
Ugh. It is not a zero sum game. When people produce faster than they consume, the pie gets bigger. The pie has been growing faster and faster for years as our productivity has risen. Even people who are in the bottom 25% can afford a computer which would have qualified as a supercomputer affordable to only the richest 10% 20 years ago.
Sure, those people pay mortgages... $700/mo on 100K financed for a nice new 3 bedroom/2ba across most of the united states. Probably $800 if you include taxes. Or for the even poorer set, $400 on 50K financed for an older 2b/2ba house. Almost all of the real-estate that is pricier than that is confined to the coastline.
Not to be hurtful, but I'm baffled by the notion that anyone could look at our society and not see that there was an obvious oversupply of lawyers. That's why there are all the jokes (and non-jokes) about them being leeches, etc.
Wait, so was it a good hire because he was let go over allegations rather than convictions, or a bad hire because he was head of HP during a period in which they 'have been on the way down for some time now'?
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That is pretty awful ... seems like it would drive a lot of people to rent, though I guess the property taxes must result in some surprisingly high rents as well, at least unless you're in a big multi-unit.
Seems like you needed to raise your salary offer, since it seems clear that EE educated usians exist and are hired all the time.
If you really had no mystery requirement, I bet you could have found a qualified candidate at 5x the salary.
They can't have any American peers, legally speaking. Otherwise, you'd have to hire them.
I assume many of the dot com bubblers got bought up by entities like Oracle/HP, and only now that those companies are executing rounds of layoffs are they really hitting the market.
We're not playing anywhere close to the physical limits which would make it a zero sum game. Within the solar system, you can't reach that until you turn off the sun and fuse all the hydrogen yourself to make power in a controlled environment.
Until then, we'll all be living in a non-zero-sum world.
As a trivial example, the amount of calories produced per acre and per farmer has risen over time. That's a big part of what allowed some of our population to even begin to think about building computers rather than devote themselves to food production.
What the poor have in developed countries today is a far cry from what they had 5 centuries ago. Nearly everyone's lot has improved, in spite of rising population, which in a zero sum game would guarantee the average would come down.
An H1B doesn't have to acquire enough wealth to retire in this country.
And yes, someone is cheating, and by someone, I mean everyone.
I'm pretty sure that your friend is misinterpreting the ad. After all, 7 years of Ruby, Java, Perl, PHP, and MySQL is 35 years of experience if you read it that way. That person retired, and only zero to one of those technologies has been around long enough anyway. So it seems completely honest to me to claim 7 years of experience including Ruby, Java, Perl, PHP, and MySQL, if in fact you have all of those experiences.
I think the incorrect assumption here is that 'there are a lot of smart people out there looking for work'. Nahh. The smart people don't spend long looking for work, they get gobbled up by the first interview that finds them.
I don't know ... if you joined the windows 2008 server development team in 2001, you'd be able to make that claim legitimately.
But of course the real problem is using HR as a filtration plant, and you shouldn't do that. You should only require an approximate match, and then proceed immediately to technical filtration.
I DO know the rules, and I have also seen first hand how the companies that abuse them are evading them. The most common strategy is to list an impossible requirement, and then miraculously find that the foreigner they want to hire happens to have that on his resume. Miracle of miracles, the job is filled. Meanwhile, to get an american to do the job would have cost 2-3x the 'prevailing wage', so they have a huge financial win.
That's pretty much in line with my thinking: the 6% unemployment number is complete BS, because those 6% appear to be unemployable. We're still counting too many dot com bubblers as 'in' our field.
I can picture that at a small company. Sometimes it's a budget stretch to hire two different people for those roles. E.g., you have some highly technical, low volume product with a very small number of support calls, you don't need to fund a full support staff, and in fact, maybe you want the one guy doing this to do some IT work for you too. You could pay the right, capable person 1.5-2x a normal salary for simple helpdesk, and still save money.
I suffer with this also, and it seems like every time I see one of these complaints (e.g. doesn't know traceroute), it is for something even I know (e.g. traceroute), even though it is waaaaay remote from my day to day work. Depressing.
Stupid H1Bs! Stealing our jerbs!
But seriously ... H1B suffers from serious abuses. There are a lot of well-qualified americans ready to take those jobs, but companies don't want to pay what it would cost to hire those americans. It definitely does NOT do what it claims.
I'd really like to see someone who can solve trivial problems in java. Maybe our internal recruitment team just sucks, but I just did yet another interview with a candidate who got stuck for almost 3 minutes trying to figure out why eclipse was complaining about their HashMap<String>.
Where are the qualified candidates!
Yikes. That is crazy. Was that 20% down? (187K valued house?) ... astronomical.
I pay only about 650/mo in property tax on my 750K valued house. Your rate seems
Yep, those are precisely the leeches you want to bend over to make your society fairer.
You think the rich are going to put up with that? They'll hire us to kill each other first.
Ugh. It is not a zero sum game. When people produce faster than they consume, the pie gets bigger. The pie has been growing faster and faster for years as our productivity has risen. Even people who are in the bottom 25% can afford a computer which would have qualified as a supercomputer affordable to only the richest 10% 20 years ago.
Sure, those people pay mortgages ... $700/mo on 100K financed for a nice new 3 bedroom/2ba across most of the united states. Probably $800 if you include taxes.
Or for the even poorer set, $400 on 50K financed for an older 2b/2ba house.
Almost all of the real-estate that is pricier than that is confined to the coastline.
Thanks to my lovely brain tumor I've been rendered poor (paying for treatment), unwise (brain damage), and unhealthy (tumor + complications). Thank goodness I'm deliriously happy!
Not to be hurtful, but I'm baffled by the notion that anyone could look at our society and not see that there was an obvious oversupply of lawyers. That's why there are all the jokes (and non-jokes) about them being leeches, etc.
Are you now unable to get a database driven web development job? I mean, it both paid more and you liked it more ... why not just go back?
Wait, so was it a good hire because he was let go over allegations rather than convictions, or a bad hire because he was head of HP during a period in which they 'have been on the way down for some time now'?
But why ... no one buys those brands.