Force is what is used when your life is threatened. When you cannot work without such a contract, your life is threatened because you will not be able to feed yourself. It means exactly what he thought it meant, and he was right.
In the example you are describing, who would file the police report?
Alternatively, why not write the AB contract to allow closure in the event that an efficient breach becomes available that pleases both parties?
2nd alternative, don't make breach of contract illegal. Make continued use of the service illegal after breach. Then there's no issue with your proposed plan, and that's actually what's modeled in the case described.
I didn't mention guilt for Lori Drew. I mentioned evil. Much like with Hitler, there was no trial required to decide he was evil (and as far as I know there was never a trial that found him guilty for the things that made him evil....). Society has already decided that Lori Drew is evil. There may or may not ever be a trial for her, and she might or might not get convicted, but that won't change most people thinking she's a soulless monster.
That would be true if a counter offer was only ever made after resignation. But I didn't resign. I suppose you could argue that I'm negotiating my salary instead, but I don't think about it that way. Salary negotiations are a normal part of maximizing your salary at your current employer if you don't want to leave, and are largely unaddressed by the article you referenced.
But we don't actually want them to go away. We want to be able to place restrictions on speech in private forums. Consider a TOS that just restricts using foul language on a children's website. Swearing in front of children shouldn't be a universal crime, some people don't care about that. But some people do, and they should be able to have private clubs where that is forbidden and that forbidding should be enforceable.
Uh oh, now if Lori reads this and agrees with you, by your own arguments you'll be on the hook for her death. I'm sure you'll be all in favor of the authorities coming to lock you up...?
Then I'd be like the guy who stopped Hitler, a hero. When you put an end to an evil villain you get applauded, when you put an end to an innocent child society gets all up in arms about it. Weird, I know.
We don't charge plenty of people who take risks but fail to kill anyone with any crime. We are a nation that rewards successful risk taking extensively. This would not be at all unusual in our legal system. However, there are child endangerment laws that would be appropriate to charge her with IMO.
I definitely feel that they should. That's explicitly taking chances with another persons well being. Taking a chance with another person's life and having it result in death is precisely the definition of manslaughter.
Part of the question is whether the felon should have known that MOST children, having under-developed brains, are highly vulnerable to emotional manipulation. Without the girl even needing to be mentally ill, what the felon did endangered the welfare of that child.
Should it be legal for adults to psychologically bully children?
Indeed, bullying should be considered a criminal behavior.
Separately from that issue, I do think violating the TOS should make you criminally or at least civilly liable. Otherwise, the TOS loses all meaning, and you can't, for example, set up a kid friendly website and use the TOS as a legal aid to protect that from internet predators. Having TOS be enforceable is definitely the right way to go. People unwilling to comply with the TOS should NOT use the website. This would make most sites with heavy handed TOS unpopular, and freer websites would prevail.
How about Lori Drew take some personal responsibility for being evil, and kill herself to improve the gene pool. People with their 'personal responsibility' rants always want it on one side and not on the other. Completely irresponsible.
I actually think those should be crimes. No one should be willing to risk using an internet site with such dangerous TOS. Otherwise, TOS loses all meaning.
How about if we add in knowing they had a weak heart, and browbeating them into going to the amusement park, then peer pressuring them onto the roller coaster, with the intent of trying to trigger a heart attack?
I don't know... after reading a few pages about Steve Milano, I mostly reach the conclusion that he's a pretty brilliant troll. He could be hilarious in person.
I think the point is that an adult with a fully developed brain deliberately set out to screw with a kid. Kids may do the same, but they're unlikely to be as competent at the manipulation because they don't have the perspective provided by experience and maturation of the brain.
It's true, in Brazil that pronounces the same as 'hot sex', and in India it's equivalent to 'gay lover', and that's why it's so popular in those countries.
It's not really about honesty, it's about understanding that the employers, broadly, don't know what they really need. They know they need someone to work with ruby, a really senior skills level person, so ask for 15 years of ruby experience. What's important is to match your resume to their system so you'll get selected for an interview IF you can actually do what they need.
No, but not that it would matter, they're currently counter negotiating other offers to keep me from leaving. I'm highly skilled, but I doubt if I'd qualify resume-wise for even one job in ten for which I would be the best candidate they would interview.
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I'm unsure if your pick of XIII for the title was supposed to be a joke, because there actually IS a XIII. I think you should have gone with XIV.
http://www.imdb.com/title/tt1139111/
In fairness to the parent, NBC edits a lot of their live broadcasts, but not typically to this extent.
They've stretched the boundaries of 'live' so far that it really has no meaning any more.
Force is what is used when your life is threatened. When you cannot work without such a contract, your life is threatened because you will not be able to feed yourself. It means exactly what he thought it meant, and he was right.
Wow, an AC comment that is sane, right, and properly contradicts an AC troll. Mod parent up!
In the example you are describing, who would file the police report?
Alternatively, why not write the AB contract to allow closure in the event that an efficient breach becomes available that pleases both parties?
2nd alternative, don't make breach of contract illegal. Make continued use of the service illegal after breach. Then there's no issue with your proposed plan, and that's actually what's modeled in the case described.
Exactly. So you wouldn't, and eventually they'd get rid of the onerous contracts, because you wouldn't be willing to take the risk.
I didn't mention guilt for Lori Drew. I mentioned evil. Much like with Hitler, there was no trial required to decide he was evil (and as far as I know there was never a trial that found him guilty for the things that made him evil ....). Society has already decided that Lori Drew is evil. There may or may not ever be a trial for her, and she might or might not get convicted, but that won't change most people thinking she's a soulless monster.
That would be true if a counter offer was only ever made after resignation. But I didn't resign. I suppose you could argue that I'm negotiating my salary instead, but I don't think about it that way. Salary negotiations are a normal part of maximizing your salary at your current employer if you don't want to leave, and are largely unaddressed by the article you referenced.
But we don't actually want them to go away. We want to be able to place restrictions on speech in private forums. Consider a TOS that just restricts using foul language on a children's website. Swearing in front of children shouldn't be a universal crime, some people don't care about that. But some people do, and they should be able to have private clubs where that is forbidden and that forbidding should be enforceable.
Uh oh, now if Lori reads this and agrees with you, by your own arguments you'll be on the hook for her death. I'm sure you'll be all in favor of the authorities coming to lock you up...?
Then I'd be like the guy who stopped Hitler, a hero. When you put an end to an evil villain you get applauded, when you put an end to an innocent child society gets all up in arms about it. Weird, I know.
We don't charge plenty of people who take risks but fail to kill anyone with any crime. We are a nation that rewards successful risk taking extensively. This would not be at all unusual in our legal system. However, there are child endangerment laws that would be appropriate to charge her with IMO.
I definitely feel that they should. That's explicitly taking chances with another persons well being. Taking a chance with another person's life and having it result in death is precisely the definition of manslaughter.
Part of the question is whether the felon should have known that MOST children, having under-developed brains, are highly vulnerable to emotional manipulation. Without the girl even needing to be mentally ill, what the felon did endangered the welfare of that child.
Should it be legal for adults to psychologically bully children?
Indeed, bullying should be considered a criminal behavior.
Separately from that issue, I do think violating the TOS should make you criminally or at least civilly liable. Otherwise, the TOS loses all meaning, and you can't, for example, set up a kid friendly website and use the TOS as a legal aid to protect that from internet predators. Having TOS be enforceable is definitely the right way to go. People unwilling to comply with the TOS should NOT use the website. This would make most sites with heavy handed TOS unpopular, and freer websites would prevail.
How about Lori Drew take some personal responsibility for being evil, and kill herself to improve the gene pool. People with their 'personal responsibility' rants always want it on one side and not on the other. Completely irresponsible.
I actually think those should be crimes. No one should be willing to risk using an internet site with such dangerous TOS. Otherwise, TOS loses all meaning.
How about if we add in knowing they had a weak heart, and browbeating them into going to the amusement park, then peer pressuring them onto the roller coaster, with the intent of trying to trigger a heart attack?
I'm guessing there was a trigger, or this would happen more often. Most likely we're looking at a brain aneurysm in this case.
I don't know ... after reading a few pages about Steve Milano, I mostly reach the conclusion that he's a pretty brilliant troll. He could be hilarious in person.
I think the point is that an adult with a fully developed brain deliberately set out to screw with a kid. Kids may do the same, but they're unlikely to be as competent at the manipulation because they don't have the perspective provided by experience and maturation of the brain.
It's true, in Brazil that pronounces the same as 'hot sex', and in India it's equivalent to 'gay lover', and that's why it's so popular in those countries.
It's not really about honesty, it's about understanding that the employers, broadly, don't know what they really need. They know they need someone to work with ruby, a really senior skills level person, so ask for 15 years of ruby experience. What's important is to match your resume to their system so you'll get selected for an interview IF you can actually do what they need.
For this particular governor, it would be a pay increase. I doubt he'd complain.
No, but not that it would matter, they're currently counter negotiating other offers to keep me from leaving. I'm highly skilled, but I doubt if I'd qualify resume-wise for even one job in ten for which I would be the best candidate they would interview.
The best of my ability to get my resume perfectly accurate is quite limited, after all, if I did that, I wouldn't qualify for any jobs.