I'm assuming you are from Europe. One thing I noticed a few years ago in Italy was that I didn't recognize MOST of the cars on the road. I'd guess that the smallest 1/3 of the cars on the road there are not legal to buy in the U.S. for whatever reason (safety, emissions, ??). You can't buy a car here with an engine smaller than about 1.6 liter. Certainly not as small as 1.0l. Two seaters here are all sports cars (Corvette, Porsche).
So yes, to European sensibilities, we do drive big cars, but our choices are limited.
I think a few people mis-understand my motivation for the question.
I understand that you are paying for windows when you buy a PC from [Dell|Gateway|IBM|Compaq|etc], but that price is really low. I remember seeing a number (back from the windows rebate debate days) in the teens of dollars ( 20). There is a similar "discount" for the bundled pile of mostly crap that always seems to accompany a new PC. (about 150$ for works or off brand office suites)
I dont have a high speed connection at home, so $30-$50 for distro is a no-brainer, and not being a college student anymore, the money isn't that big a deal.
So for the last 6 years or so, I got winders 3.11 for whatever price it cost me in the bundle, and
Redhat 2.(7?), InfoMagic Linux, SuSE, Redhat 6*. Not counting other software (applix etc)
I'm betting it's more of an issue of being allowed
to use copyrighted and trademarked things. Such
as Luke Skywalker, Leia Organa Solo, The Death
Star, and such.
Parodies such as spaceballs, which change all of
the names just enough (dark helmet), still are
and always will (should?) be un-regulated.
j
The local public library here in Bend Oregon, USA just went through the whole "Do we need to filter the Internet" discussion. There were public forums, question and answer periods, radio commentators voicing their opinions, etc. After reading much of the material posted on/. about problems in other places and the things happening on the filter/don't filter fronts I was braced for the worst.
The decision that was made is one that I think most people, on both sides of the argument, can live with. Here's how it works:
- In order to use the libraries computers, you must log on as a user. (Presumably Win98/NT?)
- Your login is your library card number
- Parents of minors MAY CHOOSE to have the internet filtering enabled for their minors
- Filters are not used for the rest of the community.
This solution enables the people who rally behind the "Save the Children" cause to save their own children, allowing the rest of us to use the internet as we see fit.
I wanted to present this as an option that many people may not have thought of on their own (I certainly would not have), and to show that the issue doesn't have to be a loose loose situation (effectiveness of filterware asside)
J
Violence is the last refuge of the incompetent I. Asimov
A few years ago I ran into this paper about how to be a CS grad student, and how to choose a grad school. I wish I had read it before I chose my (EE) grad school.
10/5/98 Some years ago now, I wrote a paper called "How to Succeed in Graduate School: A Guide for Students and Advisors," that is publicly available on the net. (The original version of the paper was called, "How to Be a Good Graduate Student / Advisor.") It contains a lot of suggestions on finding an advisor and a thesis topic, doing research, writing the thesis, and establishing a research network, among other things.
Pointers to HTML, postscript, and latex versions of the paper are available at my home page (http://www.erg.sri.com/people/marie/), and listed below.
The latest version of the paper is also available by ftp at ftp.erg.sri.com. There is a latex file (advice.tex.Z), with four additional input files (advice.bib.Z, the BibTeX bibliography, fullpage.sty.Z, a style file to make the text portion of the page larger, named.sty.Z and named.bst.Z, bibliography style files), and a postscript version (advice.ps.Z). All of the files are compressed (hence the.Z extension). To get the paper: ftp to ftp.erg.sri.com, login as anonymous, and give your e-mail address as the password 'cd pub/ITAD/advice' type 'bin' to the ftp prompt to turn on binary file retrieval mode use the 'get' command to take whichever files you want. To uncompress the files, just do 'uncompress.Z' To generate the latex output, copy the first three files, run 'latex advice,' then 'bibtex advice,' then latex twice more to incorporate all of the references.
The paper was published in two parts in issues 1.2 and 1.3 of Crossroads, the online ACM student magazine, available at: http://info.acm.org/crossroads/xrds1-2/advice1.htm l http://info.acm.org/crossroads/xrds1-3/advice2.htm l The Crossroads home page is at http://info.acm.org/crossroads/ gopher://info.acm.org/11[the_files.pubs.magazines. crossroads] ftp://info.acm.org/pubs/magazines/crossroads/
HTML versions of the original paper can be found at: http://www.cs.umbc.edu/www/graduate/advice/advice. html http://www.cs.indiana.edu/how.2b/how.2b.html U. Indiana's "What Every New Grad Student Should Know," which points to this HTML version as well as Phil Agre's networking paper and other useful resources, is at: http://www.cs.indiana.edu/docproject/grad.stuff.ht ml
The paper was also reprinted in the Winter 1995 issue of the IAPPP (International Amateur-Professional Photoelectric Photometry) Communications, and in a shorter form in Vivek, an India-based quarterly in AI.
Some of the references in the paper are incomplete (or possibly incorrect). If anyone has more complete bibligraphic information for any of the references, I'd appreciate it if you would send it to me. Comments and feedback on the paper are also very welcome.
Marie
P.S. Another useful web page is Dave Burrell's "Getting In: An Applicant's Guide to Graduate School Admissions," at http://mail.h-net.msu.edu/~burrell/guide/ . A mailing list that may be of interest to female graduate students is the systers-students mailing list (see http://www-anw.cs.umass.edu/~amy/systers.html ).
"ATM, being effectively a point-to-point network at the physical level, doesn't suffer from collisions."
Suffering isn't really a great term for what is going on. Ethernet uses a shared medium (coax or twisted pair) so it uses the collisions as an arbitration mechanism. On a lightly loaded circuit, there is no arbitration overhead. The mechanism you describe for collisions is correct, and I imagine that when you compare performance to ATM including arbitration (routing, circuit set up, Not too sure about ATM) that performance looks a bit better.
Yes on a heavily loaded (60% - 70%) Ethernet circuit stations have to wait a bit longer for access to the medium, but with a light load, there is no arbitration delay (start transmitting, check for collisions later).
A heavily loaded ethernet circuit can eaisly be divided in two (or more) with a bridge (switch), yielding two lightly loaded circuits, and better performance overall.
I'm assuming you are from Europe. One thing I noticed a few years ago in Italy was that I didn't recognize MOST of the cars on the road. I'd guess that the smallest 1/3 of the cars on the road there are not legal to buy in the U.S. for whatever reason (safety, emissions, ??). You can't buy a car here with an engine smaller than about 1.6 liter. Certainly not as small as 1.0l. Two seaters here are all sports cars (Corvette, Porsche).
So yes, to European sensibilities, we do drive big cars, but our choices are limited.
I think a few people mis-understand my motivation for the question.
I understand that you are paying for windows when you buy a PC from [Dell|Gateway|IBM|Compaq|etc], but that price is really low. I remember seeing a number (back from the windows rebate debate days) in the teens of dollars ( 20). There is a similar "discount" for the bundled pile of mostly crap that always seems to accompany a new PC. (about 150$ for works or off brand office suites)
I dont have a high speed connection at home, so $30-$50 for distro is a no-brainer, and not being a college student anymore, the money isn't that big a deal.
So for the last 6 years or so, I got winders 3.11 for whatever price it cost me in the bundle, and
Redhat 2.(7?), InfoMagic Linux, SuSE, Redhat 6*. Not counting other software (applix etc)
I'm betting it's more of an issue of being allowed
to use copyrighted and trademarked things. Such
as Luke Skywalker, Leia Organa Solo, The Death
Star, and such.
Parodies such as spaceballs, which change all of
the names just enough (dark helmet), still are
and always will (should?) be un-regulated.
j
The local public library here in Bend Oregon, USA /. about
just went through the whole "Do we need to filter
the Internet" discussion. There were public
forums, question and answer periods, radio
commentators voicing their opinions, etc. After
reading much of the material posted on
problems in other places and the things happening
on the filter/don't filter fronts I was braced for
the worst.
The decision that was made is one that I think
most people, on both sides of the argument, can
live with. Here's how it works:
- In order to use the libraries computers, you
must log on as a user. (Presumably Win98/NT?)
- Your login is your library card number
- Parents of minors MAY CHOOSE to have the
internet filtering enabled for their minors
- Filters are not used for the rest of the
community.
This solution enables the people who rally behind
the "Save the Children" cause to save their own
children, allowing the rest of us to use the
internet as we see fit.
I wanted to present this as an option that many
people may not have thought of on their own (I
certainly would not have), and to show that
the issue doesn't have to be a loose loose
situation (effectiveness of filterware asside)
J
Violence is the last refuge of the incompetent I. Asimov
A few years ago I ran into this paper about how
.Z extension). To get the paper: .Z'
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to be a CS grad student, and how to choose a grad
school. I wish I had read it before I chose my
(EE) grad school.
10/5/98
Some years ago now, I wrote a paper called "How to Succeed in Graduate
School: A Guide for Students and Advisors," that is publicly available
on the net. (The original version of the paper was called, "How to Be
a Good Graduate Student / Advisor.") It contains a lot of suggestions
on finding an advisor and a thesis topic, doing research, writing the
thesis, and establishing a research network, among other things.
Pointers to HTML, postscript, and latex versions of the paper are
available at my home page (http://www.erg.sri.com/people/marie/), and
listed below.
The latest version of the paper is also available by ftp at
ftp.erg.sri.com. There is a latex file (advice.tex.Z), with four
additional input files (advice.bib.Z, the BibTeX bibliography,
fullpage.sty.Z, a style file to make the text portion of the page
larger, named.sty.Z and named.bst.Z, bibliography style files),
and a postscript version (advice.ps.Z). All of the files are
compressed
(hence the
ftp to ftp.erg.sri.com, login as anonymous, and give your
e-mail address as the password
'cd pub/ITAD/advice'
type 'bin' to the ftp prompt to turn on binary file retrieval mode
use the 'get' command to take whichever files you want.
To uncompress the files, just do 'uncompress
To generate the latex output, copy the first three files, run
'latex advice,' then 'bibtex advice,' then latex twice more
to incorporate all of the references.
The paper was published in two parts in issues 1.2 and 1.3 of
Crossroads, the online ACM student magazine, available at:
http://info.acm.org/crossroads/xrds1-2/advice1.ht
http://info.acm.org/crossroads/xrds1-3/advice2.ht
The Crossroads home page is at
http://info.acm.org/crossroads/
gopher://info.acm.org/11[the_files.pubs.magazines
ftp://info.acm.org/pubs/magazines/crossroads/
HTML versions of the original paper can be found at:
http://www.cs.umbc.edu/www/graduate/advice/advice
http://www.cs.indiana.edu/how.2b/how.2b.html
U. Indiana's "What Every New Grad Student Should Know," which points
to this HTML version as well as Phil Agre's networking paper and other
useful resources, is at:
http://www.cs.indiana.edu/docproject/grad.stuff.h
The paper was also reprinted in the Winter 1995 issue of the IAPPP
(International Amateur-Professional Photoelectric Photometry)
Communications, and in a shorter form in Vivek, an India-based
quarterly in AI.
Some of the references in the paper are incomplete (or possibly
incorrect). If anyone has more complete bibligraphic information for
any of the references, I'd appreciate it if you would send it to me.
Comments and feedback on the paper are also very welcome.
Marie
P.S. Another useful web page is Dave Burrell's "Getting In: An
Applicant's Guide to Graduate School Admissions," at
http://mail.h-net.msu.edu/~burrell/guide/ . A mailing list that
may be of interest to female graduate students is the systers-students
mailing list (see http://www-anw.cs.umass.edu/~amy/systers.html ).
"ATM, being effectively a point-to-point network at the physical level, doesn't suffer from collisions."
Suffering isn't really a great term for what is going on. Ethernet uses a shared medium (coax or twisted pair) so it uses the collisions as an arbitration mechanism. On a lightly loaded circuit, there is no arbitration overhead. The mechanism you describe for collisions is correct, and I imagine that when you compare performance to ATM including arbitration (routing, circuit set up, Not too sure about ATM) that performance looks a bit better.
Yes on a heavily loaded (60% - 70%) Ethernet circuit stations have to wait a bit longer for access to the medium, but with a light load, there is no arbitration delay (start transmitting, check for collisions later).
A heavily loaded ethernet circuit can eaisly be divided in two (or more) with a bridge (switch), yielding two lightly loaded circuits, and better performance overall.
Jeff