If you really are looking for "superstar" people then you cannot expect these people to be happy just programming. The modern software developer is a (usually young) talented guy that can play guitar, do sports, brew beer and have a hell of a time with friends - a social animal.
We just finished hiring for some PHP positions we had open, and we found three engineers that I consider to be "superstars"... Perhaps our problem is that we're hiring for Java?
Or could it be that PHP programming is light years easier than Java enterprise programming? (although I'm not an experienced J2EE programmer)
Don't kick yourself. I know someone who has an IQ of, like, maybe 180 who got turned down. I figure if the geniuses of the world aren't getting in, in must just be a crap shoot.:)
Google has enough sponsored open source projects that in my opinion if anyone has anything worthwhile to offer, there is ample opportunity for Google to notice.
And therein lies the rub to most - they're not willing to travel anymore. The higher the person's level, the less likely they are to be willing to travel in my esperience, especially when the pay no longer makes up for time away from home.
You extracted a viable option from their ad to living locally in the Bay area.
Now, anyone who actually takes the time to read the bill will see that it makes NO mention of martial law of any kind, all it does is allow for the provisioning of medical aid and preservation of life and freedom.
I read it. Here's the title of the section in question:
CHAPTER 15--ENFORCEMENT OF THE LAWS TO RESTORE PUBLIC ORDER
The budget hasn't been a particularly troubling issue, paying for it has. And keeping the undeclared "war" out of the budget, typical Republican lying.
What you left out is that the reason Bush didn't send them in for a week is that the governor of Louisiana did not ask for a week -
This is a Republican lie. Bush demanded of Blanco that he declare martial law, and she refused. He blackmailed her for a week, is what you mean, or should mean.
You need a broad solution so the military can assist civilians sooner in many different kinds of emergences.
Unless you were fine with Katrina as it was. Then it's all cool.
In "military", you appear to be unable to distinguish between the U.S. Army, which is federal, and controlled by the president, and the National Guard, which is state and controlled by a governor, but which has been backdoor drafted into the Army for the neocon's Iraq invasion.
This law would have allowed Bush to overrule the governor and let the National Guard act as law enforcement.
The dithering was entirely due to the White House refusing to aid unless Bush was given permission to declare martial law. I wouldn't have allowed him, no governor would have allowed him, and no governor will allow him once this provision that no knew about is stricken.
Nothing that I have read specified the National Guard, even so the Republicans have federalized them and that has to stop, and will. Authorization to deploy the U.S. Army on our streets is martial law, and it will not be allowed, regardless of what the neocons think.
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P.S. Sorry if I responded redundantly, more than a few saying this is what was demanded and it just wasn't. I am familiar with logistics and yes, you are right about the good work.
This law solves the problem of the federal government seeming ineffective - next time they can just storm right in.
On my planet, the government will be effective when FEMA is there, not the U.S. Army. Bush will not be storming in next time - the National Guard will be taken away from him and given back to the states, this martial law thing will be cleansed by the light of day and repealed, and Bush can deal with foreign reality with a draft and larger army if justified... to deploy overseas.
Being branded a traitor tends to work better as a fear-installation device if you're deathly afraid of it.
It's difficult to defend against in an election with a Republican claiming you're a traitor because you voted against money for the troops, when in fact it was a martial law provision slipped in with money for the troops that was voted against. Traitor Traitor Traitor is just easier to say, isn't it?
I'm surprised nobody else has pointed out that the Democrats asked for this. Remember all the complaints about the Katrina response?
ummm, no, we didn't. All three governors, Democrat and Republican, refused Bush's demand to declare martial law. The guy is a nutcase, and so are his neocon henchmen.
Second of all, the top 50% of taxpayers pay over 94% of ALL TAXES.....By definition, then, all tax cuts are "for the rich", since they pay almost all the taxes.
the rich are defined as the top 1 or 2 percent, not the top 50 percent.
I'm not even in support of this law. I'm against it... I just don't think it has such dire consequences, and it WAS created in response to popular demand.
You've got to be kidding me. Popular demand? Why do you think this was sneaked in at the last minute? Popular demand? Bush demanded to be able to declare martial law and all three governors told him no way. Nor would anyone else but a neocon support this.
because this gives the the authority to do something,
No one gave him permission to declare martial law then, even though he demanded it, and we will not allow him to declare martial law in the future. Well, he can declare it, but the country will tell him to shove it.
People demanded that the federal government go into New Orleans to keep order, but they couldn't because of the law.
You are quite wrong. Bush tried to declare martial law and none of the governors would give him permission. No one demanded he send in federal troops, they wanted the National Guard, which Bush had federalized, and FEMA, which Bush had decimated.
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If you really are looking for "superstar" people then you cannot expect these people to be happy just programming. The modern software developer is a (usually young) talented guy that can play guitar, do sports, brew beer and have a hell of a time with friends - a social animal.
They said superstar programmer, not superstar.
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We just finished hiring for some PHP positions we had open, and we found three engineers that I consider to be "superstars"... Perhaps our problem is that we're hiring for Java?
Or could it be that PHP programming is light years easier than Java enterprise programming? (although I'm not an experienced J2EE programmer)
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Don't kick yourself. I know someone who has an IQ of, like, maybe 180 who got turned down. I figure if the geniuses of the world aren't getting in, in must just be a crap shoot. :)
Google has enough sponsored open source projects that in my opinion if anyone has anything worthwhile to offer, there is ample opportunity for Google to notice.
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who are willing to travel frequently
And therein lies the rub to most - they're not willing to travel anymore. The higher the person's level, the less likely they are to be willing to travel in my esperience, especially when the pay no longer makes up for time away from home.
You extracted a viable option from their ad to living locally in the Bay area.
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They don't pull favors for us ever, they must have thought it would cause an interesting discussion..
and it did. Thanks for the responses to keep it informative.
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If I would hiring I would hope to be aiming for a slightly smaller proportion of the available workforce :-)
I think you meant the top 5% or 10%.
And they're probably demanding excellent math skills, too.
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I've enjoyed reading Joel's blog in the past, but this was the best yet. Thanks for the link to his recent series on hiring developers.
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Now, anyone who actually takes the time to read the bill will see that it makes NO mention of martial law of any kind, all it does is allow for the provisioning of medical aid and preservation of life and freedom.
I read it. Here's the title of the section in question:
CHAPTER 15--ENFORCEMENT OF THE LAWS TO
RESTORE PUBLIC ORDER
USE OF ARMED FORCES IN MAJOR PUBLIC EMERGENCIES
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Doesn't the president pretty much have martial law power as it is already?
No.
What did this bill change, exactly?
Gave him martial power by Republicans, with no debate.
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Thats where we blamed the FEDERAL government for not sending in the state national guard when they had no authority to do it.
The governors refused to allow Bush to declare martial law, if that's what you mean. They wanted FEMA, not Bush's martial law.
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The spreadsheet for the federal budget is here
The budget hasn't been a particularly troubling issue, paying for it has. And keeping the undeclared "war" out of the budget, typical Republican lying.
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What you left out is that the reason Bush didn't send them in for a week is that the governor of Louisiana did not ask for a week -
This is a Republican lie. Bush demanded of Blanco that he declare martial law, and she refused. He blackmailed her for a week, is what you mean, or should mean.
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You need a broad solution so the military can assist civilians sooner in many different kinds of emergences.
Unless you were fine with Katrina as it was. Then it's all cool.
In "military", you appear to be unable to distinguish between the U.S. Army, which is federal, and controlled by the president, and the National Guard, which is state and controlled by a governor, but which has been backdoor drafted into the Army for the neocon's Iraq invasion.
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This law would have allowed Bush to overrule the governor and let the National Guard act as law enforcement.
The dithering was entirely due to the White House refusing to aid unless Bush was given permission to declare martial law. I wouldn't have allowed him, no governor would have allowed him, and no governor will allow him once this provision that no knew about is stricken.
Nothing that I have read specified the National Guard, even so the Republicans have federalized them and that has to stop, and will. Authorization to deploy the U.S. Army on our streets is martial law, and it will not be allowed, regardless of what the neocons think.
rd
P.S. Sorry if I responded redundantly, more than a few saying this is what was demanded and it just wasn't. I am familiar with logistics and yes, you are right about the good work.
This law solves the problem of the federal government seeming ineffective - next time they can just storm right in.
On my planet, the government will be effective when FEMA is there, not the U.S. Army. Bush will not be storming in next time - the National Guard will be taken away from him and given back to the states, this martial law thing will be cleansed by the light of day and repealed, and Bush can deal with foreign reality with a draft and larger army if justified... to deploy overseas.
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Being branded a traitor tends to work better as a fear-installation device if you're deathly afraid of it.
It's difficult to defend against in an election with a Republican claiming you're a traitor because you voted against money for the troops, when in fact it was a martial law provision slipped in with money for the troops that was voted against. Traitor Traitor Traitor is just easier to say, isn't it?
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I'm surprised nobody else has pointed out that the Democrats asked for this. Remember all the complaints about the Katrina response?
ummm, no, we didn't. All three governors, Democrat and Republican, refused Bush's demand to declare martial law. The guy is a nutcase, and so are his neocon henchmen.
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Second of all, the top 50% of taxpayers pay over 94% of ALL TAXES. ....By definition, then, all tax cuts are "for the rich", since they pay almost all the taxes.
the rich are defined as the top 1 or 2 percent, not the top 50 percent.
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When the next Katrina happens it will allow the military to help
We do not want the Army on our streets, thank you very much, Mr. Bush martial law supporter.
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I'm not even in support of this law. I'm against it... I just don't think it has such dire consequences, and it WAS created in response to popular demand.
You've got to be kidding me. Popular demand? Why do you think this was sneaked in at the last minute? Popular demand? Bush demanded to be able to declare martial law and all three governors told him no way. Nor would anyone else but a neocon support this.
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because this gives the the authority to do something,
No one gave him permission to declare martial law then, even though he demanded it, and we will not allow him to declare martial law in the future. Well, he can declare it, but the country will tell him to shove it.
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People demanded that the federal government go into New Orleans to keep order, but they couldn't because of the law.
You are quite wrong. Bush tried to declare martial law and none of the governors would give him permission. No one demanded he send in federal troops, they wanted the National Guard, which Bush had federalized, and FEMA, which Bush had decimated.
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How many of you blamed the slow federal response to Hurricane Katrina on President Bush?
slow federal response from FEMA. No one wanted martial law except Bush.
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how much I absolutely despise the Democrats...
You will be pleasantly surprised how conservative many of the new Democrats up for election Nov. 7 are.
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09/29/06 - Conference report filed and voted on; passed 398-23
Are you sure this wasn't sneaked in during conference? That's where Republicans like to do a lot of their dirty tricks.
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