I Just have to Object to the claim of running multiple applications simultaneously in Windows
They Run One at a Time, you click the Task-Bar and THAT APP Pages Back In and Runs
If any of those named Tasks were Re-entrant I'd be suprised
I am sure that if you tried to load these huge apps under AmigaDos / WorkBench. It would Not have Issued a GURU by any means.
When a TASK requested More Memory than Available, the Kernel would have said NO!, so you would have got an "Insufficient free space" message or such.
Or if you really loaded a LARGE Number of Tasks, you might get a "Task Table Full" message.
Loading any of those Apps into a 10M space : wait for the BSOD on WIndows
Anyone Ever Use The MMU on their AMIGA for 'Virtual Memory', it always seemed smoother than Win95
But then again I had a 40MHZ AMIGA with 10 MEG and a "HUGE" 300M HD. However the damn thing DID MultiTask
Define MultiTask NOT: A: Play QUAKE, Switch TASK to EXCEL or etc, on WIn9X, when you go back to QUAKE tou will still be in the same 'frozen' spot. AMIGA True MULTITASK: B: Play 'ALIEN SYNDROME ??? {Doom clone}, Switch to SPreadSheet... Switch back,... You Will BE DEAD DEAD DEAD, cos the Game KEEPS Running...
Yes I use Win9X Now for 300MHZ Clock speed RAM etc etc etc, but it still sucks, and to damn the AMIGA as worse ---- ooh ! that gets my goat!
It's good that PEople Improved Win2000, after all 'we' 'all' have to use it more or less. NoW MicroSucks will charge LARGE MONEY for this thing, and sure it will work better than before. One of the Industry Claims as to why Software costs so much and is so full of 'copy protection' crap is the Money and Time Invested in R&D ie coding the damn thing.
Imagine In The Extreme:
MicroSucks Windows 2002, - A "Beta" release that just don't work, cos it aint even coded. {snicker from guy in charge of coding budget } - "lots of Clever People out there", "Who can write this stuff properly and make it work"...
Each Piece gets released,then; tested, and Fixed by End Users... then eventually in 2003 it comes out and you pay heaps for it, sell your soul by opening the packet, and spend more money downloading patches. And of course to 'register' the damn thing you have to give DNA sample of extended family........
So free, development for big company..
Sure there is the worthwhile advantage that the software you ar going to have to use works better.........
Now This Music Thingy.......
Imagine that you Video tape your favourite TV Show, so you can watch it ONCE, when You get home.......
Somebody pays you $10000 for you to provide a 'device' that prevents Taping of TV Shows....
Well then you suffer....
Same with this Music, How is it an advantage to the 'public' to provide better copy protection for companies??
.. Pushing Boundaries Of Technology ??
WAFTAM!
Technology can be good, but not all technology Is Good.
Let's wait for the Competition to provide for Measly $10,000 - Complete Control Of Email Content, and Web-Page COntent!
Yes Exactly. I'm not even in a position to burn CD's, Nor If I ever get the chance to get Win2000 will I ever risk Microsofts' Lawyers' wrath.
The Answer here Is obvious, I'm not sure where this dude is working for $1 an hour, that won't keep you alive in Aus. And our Dollars are gonna be worth less than beans soon.
What IS something Worth?
You Ever see a EULA on a Car? With "When you open this door, you agree to be Bill Gates' towel boy?
Why? A car is kindof sold for cost + Profit. You make 300+ a day, in big factory, cheap ass labour, time and motion etc, you get rich and etc.
Imagine some Inventive Adaptive, Fitter + turner.
He Buys 1 Car. He takes it apart. ie Reverse Engineers it.
He then arduously copies each part and assembles the 'Copy of Car '
What is it worth?
He'd probably have to charge more than GM or Toyota or whatever, "economies of scale".
You don't see people doing this much, but they do. I believe in the U.S.A. there are a number of places that supply 'pieces' of Harley Davidson Motorcycles, that H.D. no longer makes. Hardly many cries of "Piracy!" unless the makers fraudulently claim to be 'Hardly Driveable'.
Now Yake your MP3 CD's:
Recordable CD : price about $1 depending on your country [ thats 50 Cents to you 'yankees' ]
Labour Cost: Well the guy above works for $1 an hour.
"Plant Cost" & etc negligible.
Shipping: paid By End Consumer
Marketing: Negligible suckers Pay to use Internet.
Hire of 'Top Class Musicians' subcontracting to provide 45 mins of 'Good Music'
Let's be real Generous and offer them $1,000,000
Profit Demanded For Me: gee { it'd be good to see a $100 note again } but say $1,000,000
Payments to artistes and Me made in installments.
So You can see: CD's with Music on em should be less than $5 { based on 1,000,000 sales )
But Here they are $30 +
Why then do people burn their own CD's, at possibly crappier sound levels? Cost of own Effort? &etc.?
Because they bloody well can! Of course the Big businesses would set price of Blank CDs at $30 ----------
Then you have outrageous Software Prices.
Dare GM to sell you a car, that 'still has some bugs, it's in development....' and still charge the price for a Rolls Royce..........
Basic Packages Everyone needs to run a Computer cost around $1000 these days
MS ME - latest Interface to DOS about $350
MS 2000 Server $1579
MS Visual Basic $450
I can't find a local Price on MS Windows 2000 except as an Upgrade, that's a Limited 'non-professional version'
And MS windows 2000 doesn't really even do anything, it's just a supposed Operating System..
No Wonder there are people out there who 'pirate' this stuff.......
AS for the stupid Quote "Information doesn't want to be free'
Imformation is non-volitional -- anyone who's seen Sesame Street Knows: "A rock is not alive!"
Too many people anthropomorphise everything these days.
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I Just have to Object to the claim of running multiple applications simultaneously in Windows
They Run One at a Time, you click the Task-Bar and THAT APP Pages Back In and Runs
If any of those named Tasks were Re-entrant I'd be suprised
I am sure that if you tried to load these huge apps under AmigaDos / WorkBench. It would Not have Issued a GURU by any means.
When a TASK requested More Memory than Available, the Kernel would have said NO!, so you would have got an "Insufficient free space" message or such.
Or if you really loaded a LARGE Number of Tasks, you might get a "Task Table Full" message.
Loading any of those Apps into a 10M space : wait for the BSOD on WIndows
Anyone Ever Use The MMU on their AMIGA for 'Virtual Memory', it always seemed smoother than Win95
But then again I had a 40MHZ AMIGA with 10 MEG and a "HUGE" 300M HD. However the damn thing DID MultiTask
Define MultiTask NOT: A: Play QUAKE, Switch TASK to EXCEL or etc, on WIn9X, when you go back to QUAKE tou will still be in the same 'frozen' spot. AMIGA True MULTITASK: B: Play 'ALIEN SYNDROME ??? {Doom clone}, Switch to SPreadSheet... Switch back,... You Will BE DEAD DEAD DEAD, cos the Game KEEPS Running...
Yes I use Win9X Now for 300MHZ Clock speed RAM etc etc etc, but it still sucks, and to damn the AMIGA as worse ---- ooh ! that gets my goat!
It's good that PEople Improved Win2000, after all 'we' 'all' have to use it more or less. NoW MicroSucks will charge LARGE MONEY for this thing, and sure it will work better than before. One of the Industry Claims as to why Software costs so much and is so full of 'copy protection' crap is the Money and Time Invested in R&D ie coding the damn thing.
- Imagine In The Extreme:
MicroSucks Windows 2002, - A "Beta" release that just don't work, cos it aint even coded. {snicker from guy in charge of coding budget } - "lots of Clever People out there", "Who can write this stuff properly and make it work"...Each Piece gets released,then; tested, and Fixed by End Users... then eventually in 2003 it comes out and you pay heaps for it, sell your soul by opening the packet, and spend more money downloading patches. And of course to 'register' the damn thing you have to give DNA sample of extended family........
So free, development for big company..
Sure there is the worthwhile advantage that the software you ar going to have to use works better.........
Now This Music Thingy.......
Imagine that you Video tape your favourite TV Show, so you can watch it ONCE, when You get home.......
Somebody pays you $10000 for you to provide a 'device' that prevents Taping of TV Shows....
Well then you suffer....
Same with this Music, How is it an advantage to the 'public' to provide better copy protection for companies??
.. Pushing Boundaries Of Technology ??
Technology can be good, but not all technology Is Good.
Let's wait for the Competition to provide for Measly $10,000 - Complete Control Of Email Content, and Web-Page COntent!
Wilfred Death
Yes Exactly. I'm not even in a position to burn CD's, Nor If I ever get the chance to get Win2000 will I ever risk Microsofts' Lawyers' wrath. The Answer here Is obvious, I'm not sure where this dude is working for $1 an hour, that won't keep you alive in Aus. And our Dollars are gonna be worth less than beans soon. What IS something Worth? You Ever see a EULA on a Car? With "When you open this door, you agree to be Bill Gates' towel boy? Why? A car is kindof sold for cost + Profit. You make 300+ a day, in big factory, cheap ass labour, time and motion etc, you get rich and etc. Imagine some Inventive Adaptive, Fitter + turner. He Buys 1 Car. He takes it apart. ie Reverse Engineers it. He then arduously copies each part and assembles the 'Copy of Car ' What is it worth? He'd probably have to charge more than GM or Toyota or whatever, "economies of scale". You don't see people doing this much, but they do. I believe in the U.S.A. there are a number of places that supply 'pieces' of Harley Davidson Motorcycles, that H.D. no longer makes. Hardly many cries of "Piracy!" unless the makers fraudulently claim to be 'Hardly Driveable'. Now Yake your MP3 CD's: Recordable CD : price about $1 depending on your country [ thats 50 Cents to you 'yankees' ] Labour Cost: Well the guy above works for $1 an hour. "Plant Cost" & etc negligible. Shipping: paid By End Consumer Marketing: Negligible suckers Pay to use Internet. Hire of 'Top Class Musicians' subcontracting to provide 45 mins of 'Good Music' Let's be real Generous and offer them $1,000,000 Profit Demanded For Me: gee { it'd be good to see a $100 note again } but say $1,000,000 Payments to artistes and Me made in installments. So You can see: CD's with Music on em should be less than $5 { based on 1,000,000 sales ) But Here they are $30 + Why then do people burn their own CD's, at possibly crappier sound levels? Cost of own Effort? &etc.? Because they bloody well can! Of course the Big businesses would set price of Blank CDs at $30 ---------- Then you have outrageous Software Prices. Dare GM to sell you a car, that 'still has some bugs, it's in development....' and still charge the price for a Rolls Royce.......... Basic Packages Everyone needs to run a Computer cost around $1000 these days MS ME - latest Interface to DOS about $350 MS 2000 Server $1579 MS Visual Basic $450 I can't find a local Price on MS Windows 2000 except as an Upgrade, that's a Limited 'non-professional version' And MS windows 2000 doesn't really even do anything, it's just a supposed Operating System.. No Wonder there are people out there who 'pirate' this stuff....... AS for the stupid Quote "Information doesn't want to be free' Imformation is non-volitional -- anyone who's seen Sesame Street Knows: "A rock is not alive!" Too many people anthropomorphise everything these days.