... the fungus! watch, they'll go to salvage it, and a large flag with the fungus mascot will be flying, and there isn't a damn thing anyone can do about it...
"Sorry had to say it, Imagine a Beowulf Cluster of those..."
No you didn't have to say it!!! AAAAH!
Some friends of mine and I are planning on putting beowulf stuff on our laptops, and getting a wireless lan solution, so we as a group in our trenchcoats and long hair and combat boots can be walking down the street in traditional gang fashion crunching data at incredible speeds...
"And, that if you could send a computer
car, barreling through a race, slightly clueless,
but unconcerned about it's own mortality, then
I think the human racers would just have to get
out of the way."
not necessarily... remember, you could define a rule that the computer controlled car is not allowed to physically contact another car, person, wreck, or wall, or any obstacle, period. If that rule has precedence over others, well, it won't.
"Criminalize the production, sale, distribution or otherwise making available of devices or computer programs who's primary use is to access... computer systems or communications."
HELLO!?! Without "access"ing other computers, there's no point in having an Internet! I'd love it if they made this illegal, because technically everyone in all of the government would be in trouble because they have network in place and are sending and receiving email!
I think it's about time that we vote out all of these lameass politicians in favour of people who actually have proven themselves to know how technology works, or at LEAST elect a few and make a committee for them to work on, where ALL technology oriented bills have to go...
"Are we willing to risk this much to have a god-like storage system?"
YES!!!
I am willing to shock mount my computer, encase it in acrylic, and use liquid nitrogen to balance heat if it meant that I could have THAT kind of storage. I'd really hate to see the fsck time if the computer lost power without a clean mount though...
I think that where I work uses a policy like that, and it does work. I think they pay a little more for weekends, something like $250 for each full weekend day, and the $100 for Fri at 5:00 to 11:59 combined with Mon 12:00 AM to 8:00 AM...
"ASU? You mean Arizona State University? I run one of the computer labs there. Not only is there no cursed censorware on our systems, but we aren't allowed to stop customers from going to any sites they might want to. I think this is great. I'm not into pr0n myself, but I'll be damned if I think the government or some other "authority" has the right to tell anyone whether they can look at it. "
I wasn't complaining... "Bad EVIL" was for what they're trying to do with it... I'm glad that they're not banning access at ASU. That's what I meant.
"I didn't know slashdot allowed articles in foren languages."
Uh, do you see a ".us" at the end of the domain name?
"Besides, who cares what happens in Germany?"
Oh, lots of people care... They cared back in 1914, They cared in 1938, etc, they cared when we (meaning the collective nations that defeated them back then) broke the country into pieces, etc...
"Why do we need all of this friggin OSes... can't we get a bunch of developers to work together on ONE ALL AROUND GOOD/STABLE OS?! Unix, Linux, BSD, Windows, DOS, MacOS/System whats the fuggin point?! All of these have benefits in one way or another, why not merge 'em *hint*hint*.."
Well, because they are developed under different paradigms. Most of us like UNIXes because of stability, and predicatable behavior, as well as a development paradigm that has been around since something like 1969.
Windows seems to be popular because of how it got its foothold, with business applications like Office. This seems to prompt professionals to want that same look and feel at home, so they use it at home too.
Macintosh System, now renamed "MacOS", seems to have developed it's foothold in the early non-corporate enthusiast, the type who would have had a Osbourne or an Imsai, who wanted it to malarkey with and not have to go to "Big Blue"...
and I don't know WHAT was going on with OS/2... Remember, it was actually developed by Microsoft originally, or at least part of it was, so maybe that's where IBM wanted a GUI to go.
I don't think we'll ever have ONE operating system, and I don't want one. I want to not use the boring, rigid, buggy OS with a pretty interface pumped out for the general populace when I can use something better.
Well, if we don't like what we get out of the review, maybe we should all just start sending emails with "bomb", "machine gun", "kill", "sniper", etc, to the point that carnivore intercepts traffic that it isn't supposed to get to make it useless...
Well, yeah... Microsoft doesn't release source code for their beta releases. We can't actually see what they've done, and we can't decide to use it professionally anyway. Maybe some year they'll realise why people are so willing to adopt X.0 releases of UNIX products and why people wait for Microsoft X service pack 1 before buying their products...
"Being a person with very little Linux experience, I would like to know how this thing works. Does Linus still make the kernel releases, and then other companies change it? Or does he incorporate parts of companies' codes along with it? Please help a curious nerd out."
From what I've seen, the answer is "yes"...
It looks like Linus is where the final "official" kernel comes from, posted at ftp.kernel.org, and then the distros add what they feel they want to. Since the GPL is what the kernel is released under, changes that the distros make can be re-incorporated into Linus' version of the kernel, and the distros can't really get mad, and don't. If Linus doesn't want a distro's mod in the kernel, he doesn't have to, but the distro can continue to use it, and Linus can't really get mad either. The point here is that some really intelligent company can always add to it, and until Linus and his people get the new mods installed, the distro can sell the service for that particular variant as a unique service. Later, one that component is integrated, they will have to develop a new piece. A really bad company can be ignored by the original sources, and will just die off if they do a bad job.
It may be annoying that 2.4 will be later, but I'd rather stick with 2.2 and wait for a really good 2.4, than have to go to 2.4.1, 2.4.2, etc. If this were any other *cough* operating system it would have been released anyway. Besides, we've not been on 2.2 for an extremely long time, we were on 2.0 for a LOT longer...
This isn't something that legislature can easily decide... I'm in college, and I believe that I should be able to sell notes that I take in lecture. There are some problems that do have to be considered though, like how this impacts things like grades and participation. I wouldn't sell notes for the purposes of giving a elite few with money a chance to get grades that they don't deserve, but I don't know how lecture notes without the lecture would really help even. What if the consequences of letting students sell notes is to cause a general increase of the level of education of the populace, because the people buying the lecture notes probably wouldn't have learned except by what the are learning by reading the notes of someone who is probably a lot more intelligent and observant? I would like to see figures on how the committees researched the need and consequences of the law, becuase there are potential side-effects that they might not have even considered.
Some of my professors didn't want notes and other information being exchanged between students or students and outside parties, and if they caught a student doing such a penalty could be expulsion from the class. Some teachers, however, encouraged it. I have a professor right now who actually asked if anyone wanted to take notes for $75, because there was a student that was not going to be around to take them herself. I don't see this being a bad thing, but if it's not permitted, then students who need such help may not be able to get it. I don't think that legal statutes will help the matter at all.
Slashdot Mirror
... the fungus! watch, they'll go to salvage it, and a large flag with the fungus mascot will be flying, and there isn't a damn thing anyone can do about it...
Yeah, our politicians need a little Shock Treatment to keep our live connections wired...
With apologies to Richard O'Brien
"until it's illegal to have a computer that's NOT hooked up to the internet?"
Simple! I'll use something that CAN'T be hooked up to the internet and do anything, like an 8088 or something running CP/M...
Just take that old Macintosh game and rewrite the interfacing to connect to various sensors and there you are!
Do you remember "Total Recall" and the "Johnny Cab" that tried to run over him when he neglected to pay his cab fare?
"Sorry had to say it, Imagine a Beowulf Cluster of those..."
No you didn't have to say it!!! AAAAH!
Some friends of mine and I are planning on putting beowulf stuff on our laptops, and getting a wireless lan solution, so we as a group in our trenchcoats and long hair and combat boots can be walking down the street in traditional gang fashion crunching data at incredible speeds...
I really need to get a life.
"And, that if you could send a computer car, barreling through a race, slightly clueless, but unconcerned about it's own mortality, then I think the human racers would just have to get out of the way."
not necessarily... remember, you could define a rule that the computer controlled car is not allowed to physically contact another car, person, wreck, or wall, or any obstacle, period. If that rule has precedence over others, well, it won't.
"Criminalize the production, sale, distribution or otherwise making available of devices or computer programs who's primary use is to access ... computer systems or communications."
HELLO!?! Without "access"ing other computers, there's no point in having an Internet! I'd love it if they made this illegal, because technically everyone in all of the government would be in trouble because they have network in place and are sending and receiving email!
I think it's about time that we vote out all of these lameass politicians in favour of people who actually have proven themselves to know how technology works, or at LEAST elect a few and make a committee for them to work on, where ALL technology oriented bills have to go...
No thanks, I'd prefer a computer that doesn't _need_ a journaling filesystem...
"Are we willing to risk this much to have a god-like storage system?"
YES!!!
I am willing to shock mount my computer, encase it in acrylic, and use liquid nitrogen to balance heat if it meant that I could have THAT kind of storage. I'd really hate to see the fsck time if the computer lost power without a clean mount though...
So much for IBM's little hard disk...
I wonder if they'll make and upgrade for my old USRobotics Pilot 5000 haldheld?
I think that where I work uses a policy like that, and it does work. I think they pay a little more for weekends, something like $250 for each full weekend day, and the $100 for Fri at 5:00 to 11:59 combined with Mon 12:00 AM to 8:00 AM...
Did you have a brain tumor for breakfast?
it's his hand!
Apologies to Daniel Waters
"ASU? You mean Arizona State University? I run one of the computer labs there. Not only is there no cursed censorware on our systems, but we aren't allowed to stop customers from going to any sites they might want to. I think this is great. I'm not into pr0n myself, but I'll be damned if I think the government or some other "authority" has the right to tell anyone whether they can look at it. "
I wasn't complaining... "Bad EVIL" was for what they're trying to do with it... I'm glad that they're not banning access at ASU. That's what I meant.
ASU Linux Users Group - asulug.asu.edu
"The lcd screen reverses and for easier shooting.
Reverses and what?"
What's wrong with that statment? All of the motherboard manuals that I've seen for the past five years or so are written like that!
at ASU, they weren't allowed to censor the computers Specifically because they were government PCs and 1st amendment rights had to be protected...
"I didn't know slashdot allowed articles in foren languages."
Uh, do you see a ".us" at the end of the domain name?
"Besides, who cares what happens in Germany?"
Oh, lots of people care... They cared back in 1914, They cared in 1938, etc, they cared when we (meaning the collective nations that defeated them back then) broke the country into pieces, etc...
"Why do we need all of this friggin OSes... can't we get a bunch of developers to work together on ONE ALL AROUND GOOD/STABLE OS?! Unix, Linux, BSD, Windows, DOS, MacOS/System whats the fuggin point?! All of these have benefits in one way or another, why not merge 'em *hint*hint*.."
Well, because they are developed under different paradigms. Most of us like UNIXes because of stability, and predicatable behavior, as well as a development paradigm that has been around since something like 1969.
Windows seems to be popular because of how it got its foothold, with business applications like Office. This seems to prompt professionals to want that same look and feel at home, so they use it at home too.
Macintosh System, now renamed "MacOS", seems to have developed it's foothold in the early non-corporate enthusiast, the type who would have had a Osbourne or an Imsai, who wanted it to malarkey with and not have to go to "Big Blue"...
and I don't know WHAT was going on with OS/2... Remember, it was actually developed by Microsoft originally, or at least part of it was, so maybe that's where IBM wanted a GUI to go.
I don't think we'll ever have ONE operating system, and I don't want one. I want to not use the boring, rigid, buggy OS with a pretty interface pumped out for the general populace when I can use something better.
So, development could go from "hyper-conservative" to "ultra-conservative"?
Well, if we don't like what we get out of the review, maybe we should all just start sending emails with "bomb", "machine gun", "kill", "sniper", etc, to the point that carnivore intercepts traffic that it isn't supposed to get to make it useless...
Well, yeah... Microsoft doesn't release source code for their beta releases. We can't actually see what they've done, and we can't decide to use it professionally anyway. Maybe some year they'll realise why people are so willing to adopt X.0 releases of UNIX products and why people wait for Microsoft X service pack 1 before buying their products...
"Being a person with very little Linux experience, I would like to know how this thing works. Does Linus still make the kernel releases, and then other companies change it? Or does he incorporate parts of companies' codes along with it? Please help a curious nerd out."
From what I've seen, the answer is "yes"...
It looks like Linus is where the final "official" kernel comes from, posted at ftp.kernel.org, and then the distros add what they feel they want to. Since the GPL is what the kernel is released under, changes that the distros make can be re-incorporated into Linus' version of the kernel, and the distros can't really get mad, and don't. If Linus doesn't want a distro's mod in the kernel, he doesn't have to, but the distro can continue to use it, and Linus can't really get mad either. The point here is that some really intelligent company can always add to it, and until Linus and his people get the new mods installed, the distro can sell the service for that particular variant as a unique service. Later, one that component is integrated, they will have to develop a new piece. A really bad company can be ignored by the original sources, and will just die off if they do a bad job.
I think this is how it goes...
It may be annoying that 2.4 will be later, but I'd rather stick with 2.2 and wait for a really good 2.4, than have to go to 2.4.1, 2.4.2, etc. If this were any other *cough* operating system it would have been released anyway. Besides, we've not been on 2.2 for an extremely long time, we were on 2.0 for a LOT longer...
This isn't something that legislature can easily decide... I'm in college, and I believe that I should be able to sell notes that I take in lecture. There are some problems that do have to be considered though, like how this impacts things like grades and participation. I wouldn't sell notes for the purposes of giving a elite few with money a chance to get grades that they don't deserve, but I don't know how lecture notes without the lecture would really help even. What if the consequences of letting students sell notes is to cause a general increase of the level of education of the populace, because the people buying the lecture notes probably wouldn't have learned except by what the are learning by reading the notes of someone who is probably a lot more intelligent and observant? I would like to see figures on how the committees researched the need and consequences of the law, becuase there are potential side-effects that they might not have even considered.
Some of my professors didn't want notes and other information being exchanged between students or students and outside parties, and if they caught a student doing such a penalty could be expulsion from the class. Some teachers, however, encouraged it. I have a professor right now who actually asked if anyone wanted to take notes for $75, because there was a student that was not going to be around to take them herself. I don't see this being a bad thing, but if it's not permitted, then students who need such help may not be able to get it. I don't think that legal statutes will help the matter at all.
YAY! Finally a nice distro is updated!