be prepared that we may start muttering "McVeigh" under our breaths
And conversatives will sigh "SLA". Remember that left wing group of American terrorists who killed a mother in front of her child during a bank robbery?
Anyway, McVeigh is not a right winger. He hated all things about government which is not a right wing view. He was coined a right winger by the left wing media folks like Dan Rather (you know, the "independent" who raises money for the Democrats - no media bias there).
While the original posters message was over the top, there is hypocricy in the liberal camp. Here in Minnesota a 13 year old wore a harmless sweatshirt the read "Straight Pride" because his school has placed pink triangles around the school as "safe zones" for gay/lesbian/transexual kids (your basic government run indocrination centers - but I digress). Anyway the same "tolerant" liberals who put up the pink triangles banned Elliot from wearing his "Straight Pride" shirt even though the government run school could display "Gay Pride" posters.
So here we have liberals who want free speech, but ONLY if you say the right thing. So much for liberal tolerance.
A lot of people are complaining about the US government not doing enough for people. Someone was talking about a house having a dozen computers and how they don't need that many (like that person knows what their current situation is). I have news for you people who think taxing the heck out of some people and giving free computers to others WON'T HELP.
Giving people handouts don't pull people out of poverity. That's been proven many times during the past few decades. What does work? Local communities pulling together and helping local people who need the help. The Federal government shoving free computers everywhere doesn't help.
So instead of whining and complaining that "rich" people need to pay higher taxes to help "poor" people, go out and use your technological backgrounds and go volunteer somewhere.
I would like to know something. For all you people who say the Federal government should raise taxes and all that, what do you think of President Bush's plan for faith-based groups helping their local communities? Are you saying "Great, they are finalky doing something that may help?" Or are you saying, "Separation of Church and State!!! This is a horrible ideal!!! The religous right are trying to impose their values on us!!!!" The question (IMO) is to tell the difference between people who really want to help verses the people who are socialists and just talking the political talk (I'm not saying Socialism is evil - although I personally don't agree with it).
Have your boss buy you a 23" flat screen monitor! Everyone's happy. And if XP doesn't work out, you all have 23" flat screens on each desk. Turn a problem into an opportunity... to upgrade to better hardware.
But to your point, XP doesn't work in even situation. The problem I see that comes up is that you have unchanging programmer pairs that end up thinking alike.
If you ask a lot Java developers (like myself), they will tell you that the combination of Java and Python is extremely powerful. JPython is an incredible tool that allows you to use the strengths of both Java and Python.
I think soon we will see a strong 3rd party. Not a Green or Reform party, but a new one. The Green and Reform parties will actually be the "extremes" and the third party will be down the middle. No huge tax cuts, but not a lot of Government involvement with health care, etc. Abortions and guns will remain legal (not photo ID's for guns). Just my thought.
(I think the Libertarian party goes a little too far with small government. Again, just my view).
There are absentee ballots in several states that need to be counted as well. Those tend to be Republican, but who knows.
My real point was that we really do have a country split in half about which way we should be heading. I don't envy whichever candidate makes it because the will have a VERY tough job ahead of them (above and beyond the normal tough work).
I think the US popular vote, even though it goes to Gore, is dead even. The 200,000 votes could EASILY have been lost due to the networks' error giving Gore Florida (Bush voters may have given up).
Wither way, this sends an interesting message. Half the people want a more socialist US and half want a more capitalist US. If either party goes to far to the left or the right, they will lose the 2004 election.
Voting is an inalienable that ALL US citizens have. Denying that right based on someone's IQ is a horrible idea. You say the voting age should be 21. Well, there are a lot of men and women who are 18 that put their lives on the line to protect your right to vote and for your freedoms.
If you don't like the US, we (unlike the utopia called Cuba) don't stop you from leaving.
Besides the FACT he didn't lie about it, he also didn't blame anyone else.
No accusations about a "vast left-wing conspiracy". No DNA sample was needed for him to admit it. GWB didn't hide behind his daddy when he got caught (unlike Clinton and Gore during the Vietnam War).
Many people view technology as a replacement for good teachers. The truth, of course, is that technology is not needed to learn. If you are well educated, technology will be easy for you to learn.
I'm not talking about left or right biased. I'm talking about the lack of real journalism that exists today. Take the Middle East. Our papers and TV rarely if ever talk to the fact that Jews and Arabs have been fighting for thousands of years. If you read the paper, it sounds like this just happened today and that our President will actually help end the fighting.
Basically, every news cast is for the here and now. Everything revolves around ratings. I don't think it's as much as corporate corruption as it is the "dumbing down" of Americans by our schools and media. Our schools today teach that even if you have the wrong answer, as long as the answer makes you feel better, it's OK.
"the idiotic war on drugs...marijuana, prostitution,...no nudity/swearing on TV puh-leaze" HEY! Quit talking about President Clinton!
Our military is hated because the current administration deploys them all over the place where we have no business being. I love our military, just not our Commander and Chief.
Anyway, just out of curiousity, what country are you from? I don't want to sart a flame war, I'm just curious how others see the US.
"t's mostly people who..." I would have thought with your "6 figure salary" you would know what "mostly" means. The polls show most of Gore's support come from single people between the ages of 12-24 making $25K to $50K. You are probably just an anomaly.
"And his tax cut plan is fiscally irresponsible..." ans that's taken right out of Gore's mouth. Do you work in the Media or for the Government?
I was talking about the redistribution of wealth. Basically, making sure everyone has an equal economic standing.
But you are right. I was just a little wound up after reading so many one-sided political stories on a site that was mainly meant for "nerdy news" (or so I thought).
It's mostly people who don't have the amount of money they want. So instead of trying harder, they just vote for the candidate who promises to take the money from "the rich, evil people" and give it to them.
Maybe I'm wrong, but it's Communism failing all over the world? And isn't the US (with it's evil capitalistics ways) the most powerful country in the world? Coincidence? Not even close.
Ain't that the truth! Of course, "left leaning" doesn't quite describe what's really happening here. I never thought so many techies are diehard socialists. Maybe it's all the leftist rhetoric our public schools are pushing these days. I don't know.
- Gun carrying, right-wing bastard (and damn proud of it!)
Let's see here. Rick Lazio gets smeared by the media when he "encrouched into Mrs. Clinton's personal space". Yet when Gore charges Bush in the 3rd debate, nothing is mentioned in the press! (Bush by the way did a GREAT job blowing Gore's advances off). So either the media is biased towards the left OR they think women can't handle "aggressive men". So which is it?
Next, Bush is slammed by the media for "coccaine use" charges. Did they have an ounce (or gram) of evidence? Not one bit! Meanwhile, they all chucked over Bill Clinton's "I never inhaled" blatant lie. So, is the media biased towards liberals? Are you convinced yet?
How about the fact that the AP wire talked about Gore's lead in the polls everyday when Gore was ahead. What happened when Bush was ahead? The AP only talked about how Gore was leading in California and New York. Is the AP hoping that if people don't hear the Bush is in the lead, they will believe the AP's spin?
In Minnesota, our liberal news shows gave so liberal professor crackpot over 5 minutes on how he as a mathematical model that shows Gore will win. Why did they put him on? Because Bush is leading in every poll.
The list goes on and on. Those in the liberal Slashdot world just don't like the fact that their "good buddy" is taking some heat. So, how does it feel?
...but Slashdot is really losing credibility in my eyes. It's great for people to have and voice their opinions, but the Slashdot editorial staff is FAR too one sided. I am a conservative, so I also have a biased view. However, these blatant, liberal attacks against Bush has gotten out of hand. Enough is enough. If Jon Katz (who I have defended before) can't get any of his facts straight and only hears what he wants to hear, then he shouldn't be able to submit stories.
Sorry if I get moderated to Hell over this, but this is really annoying me.
If you're not a liberal at 20, you don't have a heart. If you're not a conservative by 40, you don't have a head. - Winston Churchill
The problem I see is that people like Al Gore can only do one thing. That's politics. More and more politicians are born and bred that way. They don't have any other career goals or skills. The problem is that the US government should be "for the people and BY the people". People who are career politicians are not one "of the people" they represent.
We need more smart people with other careers they can fall back on to start entering into politics. Politics does matter!
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be prepared that we may start muttering "McVeigh" under our breaths
And conversatives will sigh "SLA". Remember that left wing group of American terrorists who killed a mother in front of her child during a bank robbery?
Anyway, McVeigh is not a right winger. He hated all things about government which is not a right wing view. He was coined a right winger by the left wing media folks like Dan Rather (you know, the "independent" who raises money for the Democrats - no media bias there).
While the original posters message was over the top, there is hypocricy in the liberal camp. Here in Minnesota a 13 year old wore a harmless sweatshirt the read "Straight Pride" because his school has placed pink triangles around the school as "safe zones" for gay/lesbian/transexual kids (your basic government run indocrination centers - but I digress). Anyway the same "tolerant" liberals who put up the pink triangles banned Elliot from wearing his "Straight Pride" shirt even though the government run school could display "Gay Pride" posters.
So here we have liberals who want free speech, but ONLY if you say the right thing. So much for liberal tolerance.
A lot of people are complaining about the US government not doing enough for people. Someone was talking about a house having a dozen computers and how they don't need that many (like that person knows what their current situation is). I have news for you people who think taxing the heck out of some people and giving free computers to others WON'T HELP.
Giving people handouts don't pull people out of poverity. That's been proven many times during the past few decades. What does work? Local communities pulling together and helping local people who need the help. The Federal government shoving free computers everywhere doesn't help.
So instead of whining and complaining that "rich" people need to pay higher taxes to help "poor" people, go out and use your technological backgrounds and go volunteer somewhere.
I would like to know something. For all you people who say the Federal government should raise taxes and all that, what do you think of President Bush's plan for faith-based groups helping their local communities? Are you saying "Great, they are finalky doing something that may help?" Or are you saying, "Separation of Church and State!!! This is a horrible ideal!!! The religous right are trying to impose their values on us!!!!" The question (IMO) is to tell the difference between people who really want to help verses the people who are socialists and just talking the political talk (I'm not saying Socialism is evil - although I personally don't agree with it).
Have your boss buy you a 23" flat screen monitor! Everyone's happy. And if XP doesn't work out, you all have 23" flat screens on each desk. Turn a problem into an opportunity ... to upgrade to better hardware.
But to your point, XP doesn't work in even situation. The problem I see that comes up is that you have unchanging programmer pairs that end up thinking alike.
"Also, 2 or more people tend to bicker over editor styles, code quirks (comment format and such) that gets overlooked during a code review"
That's why XP demands strict coding standards. If those issues come up a lot during your coding phase, you're not following XP rules correctly.
If you ask a lot Java developers (like myself), they will tell you that the combination of Java and Python is extremely powerful. JPython is an incredible tool that allows you to use the strengths of both Java and Python.
I think soon we will see a strong 3rd party. Not a Green or Reform party, but a new one. The Green and Reform parties will actually be the "extremes" and the third party will be down the middle. No huge tax cuts, but not a lot of Government involvement with health care, etc. Abortions and guns will remain legal (not photo ID's for guns). Just my thought.
(I think the Libertarian party goes a little too far with small government. Again, just my view).
There are absentee ballots in several states that need to be counted as well. Those tend to be Republican, but who knows.
My real point was that we really do have a country split in half about which way we should be heading. I don't envy whichever candidate makes it because the will have a VERY tough job ahead of them (above and beyond the normal tough work).
I think the US popular vote, even though it goes to Gore, is dead even. The 200,000 votes could EASILY have been lost due to the networks' error giving Gore Florida (Bush voters may have given up).
Wither way, this sends an interesting message. Half the people want a more socialist US and half want a more capitalist US. If either party goes to far to the left or the right, they will lose the 2004 election.
...if you like Gore and hate GWB, then nothing I say will change your mind.
Voting is an inalienable that ALL US citizens have. Denying that right based on someone's IQ is a horrible idea. You say the voting age should be 21. Well, there are a lot of men and women who are 18 that put their lives on the line to protect your right to vote and for your freedoms.
If you don't like the US, we (unlike the utopia called Cuba) don't stop you from leaving.
How about the fact that he hasn't had a drink in 14 years? It's hard to have a DUI without drinking.
Of course, if you like Gore and hate Bush, it doesn't really matter what anyone has to say about it.
... Gore's father told his commanding office not to send him near anything remotely dangerous. So, yes he was in Vietnam, but he wasn't in any danger.
Bush was in the National Guard. Which suprises me since GB senior was a combat pilot.
Besides the FACT he didn't lie about it, he also didn't blame anyone else.
No accusations about a "vast left-wing conspiracy". No DNA sample was needed for him to admit it. GWB didn't hide behind his daddy when he got caught (unlike Clinton and Gore during the Vietnam War).
I read that message and couldn't figure it out either. A libertarian going to Gore?!? Heck, why not go all the way and vote Nader?
It's too bad when someone doesn't truly understand what their own values are.
Many people view technology as a replacement for good teachers. The truth, of course, is that technology is not needed to learn. If you are well educated, technology will be easy for you to learn.
My $0.02
I'm not talking about left or right biased. I'm talking about the lack of real journalism that exists today. Take the Middle East. Our papers and TV rarely if ever talk to the fact that Jews and Arabs have been fighting for thousands of years. If you read the paper, it sounds like this just happened today and that our President will actually help end the fighting.
:-)
Basically, every news cast is for the here and now. Everything revolves around ratings. I don't think it's as much as corporate corruption as it is the "dumbing down" of Americans by our schools and media. Our schools today teach that even if you have the wrong answer, as long as the answer makes you feel better, it's OK.
Just my $0.025 Canadian dollars worth
"the idiotic war on drugs...marijuana, prostitution,...no nudity/swearing on TV puh-leaze" HEY! Quit talking about President Clinton!
Our military is hated because the current administration deploys them all over the place where we have no business being. I love our military, just not our Commander and Chief.
Anyway, just out of curiousity, what country are you from? I don't want to sart a flame war, I'm just curious how others see the US.
"t's mostly people who ..." I would have thought with your "6 figure salary" you would know what "mostly" means. The polls show most of Gore's support come from single people between the ages of 12-24 making $25K to $50K. You are probably just an anomaly.
"And his tax cut plan is fiscally irresponsible..." ans that's taken right out of Gore's mouth. Do you work in the Media or for the Government?
I was talking about the redistribution of wealth. Basically, making sure everyone has an equal economic standing.
But you are right. I was just a little wound up after reading so many one-sided political stories on a site that was mainly meant for "nerdy news" (or so I thought).
It's mostly people who don't have the amount of money they want. So instead of trying harder, they just vote for the candidate who promises to take the money from "the rich, evil people" and give it to them.
Maybe I'm wrong, but it's Communism failing all over the world? And isn't the US (with it's evil capitalistics ways) the most powerful country in the world? Coincidence? Not even close.
Ain't that the truth! Of course, "left leaning" doesn't quite describe what's really happening here. I never thought so many techies are diehard socialists. Maybe it's all the leftist rhetoric our public schools are pushing these days. I don't know.
- Gun carrying, right-wing bastard (and damn proud of it!)
Let's see here. Rick Lazio gets smeared by the media when he "encrouched into Mrs. Clinton's personal space". Yet when Gore charges Bush in the 3rd debate, nothing is mentioned in the press! (Bush by the way did a GREAT job blowing Gore's advances off). So either the media is biased towards the left OR they think women can't handle "aggressive men". So which is it?
Next, Bush is slammed by the media for "coccaine use" charges. Did they have an ounce (or gram) of evidence? Not one bit! Meanwhile, they all chucked over Bill Clinton's "I never inhaled" blatant lie. So, is the media biased towards liberals? Are you convinced yet?
How about the fact that the AP wire talked about Gore's lead in the polls everyday when Gore was ahead. What happened when Bush was ahead? The AP only talked about how Gore was leading in California and New York. Is the AP hoping that if people don't hear the Bush is in the lead, they will believe the AP's spin?
In Minnesota, our liberal news shows gave so liberal professor crackpot over 5 minutes on how he as a mathematical model that shows Gore will win. Why did they put him on? Because Bush is leading in every poll.
The list goes on and on. Those in the liberal Slashdot world just don't like the fact that their "good buddy" is taking some heat. So, how does it feel?
Tarlyn, thank you for making my day. A number of co-workers looked my way wondering what all the laughter was all about. I needed that.
...but Slashdot is really losing credibility in my eyes. It's great for people to have and voice their opinions, but the Slashdot editorial staff is FAR too one sided. I am a conservative, so I also have a biased view. However, these blatant, liberal attacks against Bush has gotten out of hand. Enough is enough. If Jon Katz (who I have defended before) can't get any of his facts straight and only hears what he wants to hear, then he shouldn't be able to submit stories.
Sorry if I get moderated to Hell over this, but this is really annoying me.
If you're not a liberal at 20, you don't have a heart. If you're not a conservative by 40, you don't have a head. - Winston Churchill
The problem I see is that people like Al Gore can only do one thing. That's politics. More and more politicians are born and bred that way. They don't have any other career goals or skills. The problem is that the US government should be "for the people and BY the people". People who are career politicians are not one "of the people" they represent.
We need more smart people with other careers they can fall back on to start entering into politics. Politics does matter!