Hmmm... Taco bitches and moans about every QuickTime piece of media that come out 'cuase he can't see it on Linux, but somehow gets his Win32 version of Diablo II running under Linux?
. In the NCAA, athletes aren't allowed to accept anything more than a scholarship and some equipment.
Awww, tough shit. All they get is a free ride, free room and board for 5 years of college? They should be grateful... half of them would be out working anyway since they wouldn't be in college in the first place otherwise....
How big does a rock have to be to get through earth's atomosphere? Obviously this will depenend of the composition of the meteor and where it lands, etc... but how big are we talking ballpark for something on the scale of say, a small nuke blast?
...this is the road that RMS and the FSF want to lead us down. No IP rights, and no recourse against people who "share" the output of your hard work. If you complain, you are automatically being selfish, since information wants to be shared, and you are obviously a petty capitalist just interested in the fast buck.
Hey, I agree with you to a large extent... sorry I took such a sharp tone with you earlier.. long day at the office and all that.
My point is just this; there are a great many bricks and mortar companies, not just banks, that mistakenly bought in to the whole idea that NT Server and its mutant brethren (Exchange Server, SQL, IIS, etc) were robust, enterprise-quality products.
Sure, tons of companies have done this.. One of my clients (a large Houston based PC maker) runs EVERYTHING on NT boxes. SAP, Email, the whole load... Granted, they had tons of boxes, but I suppose their hardware costs are relatively low:)
Talk about a security hole...with a modem and BO2K, or even PCAnywhere, you could transfer funds, open accounts, etc. without stepping foot in the building.
Well, I suppose this is true, but unless you have a brain dead firewall / DMZ system, you shouldn't be able to access these from outside the internal network anyway. If you have someone on the inside trying to do these things, the game is half over anyway. Now stability and robustness are another story...
Anyway, just thought this was sort of an interesting conversation; I'll admit, I heard you wrong (that'll teach me to jump into a conversation suddenly) but you gotta admit, there are more to "critical systems" these days than just database flavors running on big iron...
True, I think the DDOS kids and Melissa proved that a few months ago.. then again, against some of those attacks (OK, just DDOS) your OS of choice isn't going to matter alot...
Anyway, look at this, a civil discussion on/. Maybe there's hope for peace in the Middle East after all...
Semantically, I said "stored their money in MS products" as kind of a flip way of saying that, really, banks don't store cash. They store data, and your account balance is really just an entry in a database. I'm asking, does anyone really think banks are doing this with SQL Server for their systems of record? Most banks I'm familiar with have old mainframes with old (but reliable) custom apps.
I don't consider ATMs, Web Front ends, etc... to be critical systems.
Exactly, what you are describing is called a bank. There are tons of them. There is no way you could both a) comply with banking law in the US and b) mantain the required anonymity you desire under the system.
Maybe if someone wants to open First National Bank of Sealand or something...
Then again, I hate cash... I hate having to carry it around... you can lose it, its (literally) dirty, and if you give it to someone you have no recourse if they don't perform or your product is defective. Having the same thing in digital form only seems to solve the cleanliness problem as far as I can see. Unless you are some huge privacy freak and that's important to you... but if that's the case, are you really going to trust First National Bank of Sealand or whatever?
Yeah, but there is a certain network economy to the whole thing. If Visa or Mastercard starts up the same thing now (or Citibank or whoever), who wants to join one of those things in the beginning when they have 100 users and those are the only people you can trade $$$ with?
Ripped-Off: An individual forced to pay more for a CD than a casette (even considering any possible differnce in manufacturing cost)
Hmmm... the lifetime of a CD is quite a bit longer than that of a cassette, shouldn't the cost be higher then? Plus you have the whole analog and digital thing going, so you are getting a higher quality recording. That's not worth anything to you?
Harassed: Individuals who excercised their right to the free expression on an idea by linking/posting the DeCSS code
I thought this article was about the RIAA not the MPAA.
Bottom-Feeding Scumsukers: Lawers for the recording and motion-picture industries
Yeah, I hate it when people try to defend their rights. I hope you feel the same was about companies that get harrassed by the FSF, etc...
because you live in a society that rewards greed more than compassion, and measures personal worth by personal wealth.
You make that sound like a bad thing or something. If you ahve such an aversion to wealth, no one is stop you from giving away your money, etc.... You don't need to make those decisions for the rest of us, thank you very much.
The Cato Institute's analysts parrot the agenda of corporate America, trying to influence policy and legislation to benefit the wealthiest groups and individuals in the country.
Oh, please. The Cato Institute published well thought out papers that are Libertarian in nature and are dedicated to getting the government of your back.
I know corporation bashing is popular on/., I guess that's why your computer was hand crafted by a tribe of indigenous people from the amazon, right?
70,000 figure might actually represent the number of applications that have been written during the entire history of the personal computer industry.
Oh, come on. This is what happens when you have ivory tower academics weighing in on things. I've been with companies that have serveral thousand of their own internal applications... entire history of the industry indeed.
Hell, there have probably been around 70,000 bad first person shooters in the past few years....
For Radio stations. The letters signify a certain frequency which is kind of similar to a domain name resolving to an IP address. Call letters can be bought and sold, but the FCC technically "owns" all of them.
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I am not trollish.
Right... that's why there wasn't an impeachment trial right?
What kinds of petition campaigns have been successful online?
Show me one petition online that changed anyone's mind about anything. Signing an online petition is feel-good activism that doesn't do squat.
Hmmm... Taco bitches and moans about every QuickTime piece of media that come out 'cuase he can't see it on Linux, but somehow gets his Win32 version of Diablo II running under Linux?
Yes they are.
Read about it here
..and tell the EU to butt out. Who are they to say what two American companies can do?
. In the NCAA, athletes aren't allowed to accept anything more than a scholarship and some equipment.
Awww, tough shit. All they get is a free ride, free room and board for 5 years of college? They should be grateful... half of them would be out working anyway since they wouldn't be in college in the first place otherwise....
How big does a rock have to be to get through earth's atomosphere? Obviously this will depenend of the composition of the meteor and where it lands, etc... but how big are we talking ballpark for something on the scale of say, a small nuke blast?
...this is the road that RMS and the FSF want to lead us down. No IP rights, and no recourse against people who "share" the output of your hard work. If you complain, you are automatically being selfish, since information wants to be shared, and you are obviously a petty capitalist just interested in the fast buck.
Something to think about, isn't it?
Dude, SMS is your friend. Use it.
Hey, I agree with you to a large extent... sorry I took such a sharp tone with you earlier.. long day at the office and all that.
:)
/. Maybe there's hope for peace in the Middle East after all...
My point is just this; there are a great many bricks and mortar companies, not just banks, that mistakenly bought in to the whole idea that NT Server and its mutant brethren (Exchange Server, SQL, IIS, etc) were robust, enterprise-quality products.
Sure, tons of companies have done this.. One of my clients (a large Houston based PC maker) runs EVERYTHING on NT boxes. SAP, Email, the whole load... Granted, they had tons of boxes, but I suppose their hardware costs are relatively low
Talk about a security hole...with a modem and BO2K, or even PCAnywhere, you could transfer funds, open accounts, etc. without stepping foot in the building.
Well, I suppose this is true, but unless you have a brain dead firewall / DMZ system, you shouldn't be able to access these from outside the internal network anyway. If you have someone on the inside trying to do these things, the game is half over anyway. Now stability and robustness are another story...
Anyway, just thought this was sort of an interesting conversation; I'll admit, I heard you wrong (that'll teach me to jump into a conversation suddenly) but you gotta admit, there are more to "critical systems" these days than just database flavors running on big iron...
True, I think the DDOS kids and Melissa proved that a few months ago.. then again, against some of those attacks (OK, just DDOS) your OS of choice isn't going to matter alot...
Anyway, look at this, a civil discussion on
Semantically, I said "stored their money in MS products" as kind of a flip way of saying that, really, banks don't store cash. They store data, and your account balance is really just an entry in a database. I'm asking, does anyone really think banks are doing this with SQL Server for their systems of record? Most banks I'm familiar with have old mainframes with old (but reliable) custom apps.
I don't consider ATMs, Web Front ends, etc... to be critical systems.
Post the name of the bank then... I'm sure the /. crowd would hate to have their money in a bank that stored their money on MS products.
Exactly, what you are describing is called a bank. There are tons of them. There is no way you could both a) comply with banking law in the US and b) mantain the required anonymity you desire under the system.
Maybe if someone wants to open First National Bank of Sealand or something...
Then again, I hate cash... I hate having to carry it around... you can lose it, its (literally) dirty, and if you give it to someone you have no recourse if they don't perform or your product is defective. Having the same thing in digital form only seems to solve the cleanliness problem as far as I can see. Unless you are some huge privacy freak and that's important to you... but if that's the case, are you really going to trust First National Bank of Sealand or whatever?
Why would anybody create such a system in the first place? You aren't giving them any way to make a profit, so why go through the effort....
Yeah, but there is a certain network economy to the whole thing. If Visa or Mastercard starts up the same thing now (or Citibank or whoever), who wants to join one of those things in the beginning when they have 100 users and those are the only people you can trade $$$ with?
So I would have to go through hardward detection each time I wanted to play the game? Yeah, that sounds like a hell of a lot of fun.
Ripped-Off: An individual forced to pay more for a CD than a casette (even considering any possible differnce in manufacturing cost)
Hmmm... the lifetime of a CD is quite a bit longer than that of a cassette, shouldn't the cost be higher then? Plus you have the whole analog and digital thing going, so you are getting a higher quality recording. That's not worth anything to you?
Harassed: Individuals who excercised their right to the free expression on an idea by linking/posting the DeCSS code
I thought this article was about the RIAA not the MPAA.
Bottom-Feeding Scumsukers: Lawers for the recording and motion-picture industries
Yeah, I hate it when people try to defend their rights. I hope you feel the same was about companies that get harrassed by the FSF, etc...
That would be cool, it should really drive up salaries in the industry :)
because you live in a society that rewards greed more than compassion, and measures personal worth by personal wealth.
You make that sound like a bad thing or something. If you ahve such an aversion to wealth, no one is stop you from giving away your money, etc.... You don't need to make those decisions for the rest of us, thank you very much.
The Cato Institute's analysts parrot the agenda of corporate America, trying to influence policy and legislation to benefit the wealthiest groups and individuals in the country.
/., I guess that's why your computer was hand crafted by a tribe of indigenous people from the amazon, right?
Oh, please. The Cato Institute published well thought out papers that are Libertarian in nature and are dedicated to getting the government of your back.
I know corporation bashing is popular on
70,000 figure might actually represent the number of applications that have been written during the entire history of the personal computer industry.
Oh, come on. This is what happens when you have ivory tower academics weighing in on things. I've been with companies that have serveral thousand of their own internal applications... entire history of the industry indeed.
Hell, there have probably been around 70,000 bad first person shooters in the past few years....
Guess that's why Apple doesn't design their computers on Apple hardware, eh?
Well of course not. Afterall isn't piracy theft and murder on the high seas?
Nope, my copy of the OED traces the use of the word piracy in relation to the unauthorized taking of someone else's written work to the 15th century.
Sorry, you pro-theft (oh, I mean't um, sharing) people need to come up with a new argument...
For Radio stations. The letters signify a certain frequency which is kind of similar to a domain name resolving to an IP address. Call letters can be bought and sold, but the FCC technically "owns" all of them.