That brings up an interesting question, as with all things, I would bet that SATAN, SAINT and SARA would all be classified as hacking tools when not used by some corporation or government.
It's also a good question of who decides the use of these 'laws'. I'm an American in the classic sense, I don't believe that any organization outside of the US should control privacy issues or legal issues for citizens of the United States. I believe every country should have this right, but in truth, our country and the EU, via the overwhelming force of corporations that push them into this, will sign these laws.
It's a sad state of affairs when we sign over our freedoms (or allow some person in Washington or elsewhere), to do the same.
What constitutes illegal? That's up to the people, not the corporations or the governments. For me myself, if a law violates the interests of personal freedom (barring laws that protect people from harm, not corporations, I don't believe in corporate rights.), it should be broken.
As a Native American, I know that we had laws on the books calling for our extinction, both physical and social. Was this right? If you were good to the tribes, you were doing something illegal. Should we follow all the laws these people make for us like Stepford Hackers? I say no, I say that those in the community who advocate any law that bans free source of any tool should check themselves.
Any loss of any freedom is a loss that will never be regained.
If anything, we should be signing more treaties to protect the earth, not the back sides of the corporations and governments that are slowly trying to control the lives of people all around the world. When they control everything, where will you go, where will you run?
Hacking Tools are code, code is word, and word is free speech. Take it from a Native, they are ultimately out to screw you, not protect you. Trust us on this one.
I believe that is the point of micro$oft's marketing strategy. It's no be seceret that they they have been trying to get into the gaming market. Bungie represents a threat to their marketing of various Micro$oft games, in my opinion, so you are right, it's better for them to buy it out, place it in on NT servers (sounds like an oxy-moronic thing to say). Mircosofts big claim to fame it NT, as far as the server market goes, so they aren't going to leave it up and running on LINUX for the sake of embarassment (or for the fact that the servers would probably stay up and running forever.).
We are probably going to see more of this, since Micro$oft want's it's share of the gaming market.
Funny thing is, if they bought bungie in order to get those online gamers, it seems that they really bought themselves into a hole.
I'm for the gamers on this one. Atleast somebody is doing something outside of our community here, which includes some of the gaming community.
But your right, Bungie was a threat, that's probably the reason they bought it.
Adios,
DMad
--(Who just had to set up an NT server with Mcfee firewalls and is glad to get home to his computer running Linux and Portsenty/SINUS. Should tell you how much regular computer people trust micro$oft)--
Here in Omaha, we have the same problem in our public schools. Businesses are buying into the educational system in order to condition (this is my personal belief) kids to buy their products later on.
Nebraska is mostly Republican, which means schools get very little money and teachers are paid little.
When First Data (FDR) came to Omaha, they bargained for some prime land near the University of Omaha, saying they were going to build a technology center and hire more locals. Well, the center doesn't do much, First Data fired a lot of employees (in the thousands) and two people commited sucide because of the stress that they felt because of their jobs their. The losers in this, Omaha, the people and UNO. The winner, First Data, as much throw away talent as they want.
When corporations get involved in education, everyone loses. At the start, and in some cases, its a good thing, but now, we are starting to see the down side of all this corporate involvement.
Lest we forget, the final and only rule of business, "The bottom line is all that matters." I have a degree in business as well as mainframes and this is what we where taught in our business classes. (Now you know why I stuck with computers).
My two cents,
Adios,
DMad
I have to agree with you, banks should never dictate what kind of OS it takes to operate your computer, just to check your bank account.
Even though your doing the best thing by leaving that bank, have you thought about ways that you could get around that?
Adios,
DMad
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That brings up an interesting question, as with all things, I would bet that SATAN, SAINT and SARA would all be classified as hacking tools when not used by some corporation or government. It's also a good question of who decides the use of these 'laws'. I'm an American in the classic sense, I don't believe that any organization outside of the US should control privacy issues or legal issues for citizens of the United States. I believe every country should have this right, but in truth, our country and the EU, via the overwhelming force of corporations that push them into this, will sign these laws. It's a sad state of affairs when we sign over our freedoms (or allow some person in Washington or elsewhere), to do the same. What constitutes illegal? That's up to the people, not the corporations or the governments. For me myself, if a law violates the interests of personal freedom (barring laws that protect people from harm, not corporations, I don't believe in corporate rights.), it should be broken. As a Native American, I know that we had laws on the books calling for our extinction, both physical and social. Was this right? If you were good to the tribes, you were doing something illegal. Should we follow all the laws these people make for us like Stepford Hackers? I say no, I say that those in the community who advocate any law that bans free source of any tool should check themselves. Any loss of any freedom is a loss that will never be regained. If anything, we should be signing more treaties to protect the earth, not the back sides of the corporations and governments that are slowly trying to control the lives of people all around the world. When they control everything, where will you go, where will you run? Hacking Tools are code, code is word, and word is free speech. Take it from a Native, they are ultimately out to screw you, not protect you. Trust us on this one.
I believe that is the point of micro$oft's marketing strategy. It's no be seceret that they they have been trying to get into the gaming market. Bungie represents a threat to their marketing of various Micro$oft games, in my opinion, so you are right, it's better for them to buy it out, place it in on NT servers (sounds like an oxy-moronic thing to say). Mircosofts big claim to fame it NT, as far as the server market goes, so they aren't going to leave it up and running on LINUX for the sake of embarassment (or for the fact that the servers would probably stay up and running forever.). We are probably going to see more of this, since Micro$oft want's it's share of the gaming market. Funny thing is, if they bought bungie in order to get those online gamers, it seems that they really bought themselves into a hole. I'm for the gamers on this one. Atleast somebody is doing something outside of our community here, which includes some of the gaming community. But your right, Bungie was a threat, that's probably the reason they bought it. Adios, DMad --(Who just had to set up an NT server with Mcfee firewalls and is glad to get home to his computer running Linux and Portsenty/SINUS. Should tell you how much regular computer people trust micro$oft)--
Here in Omaha, we have the same problem in our public schools. Businesses are buying into the educational system in order to condition (this is my personal belief) kids to buy their products later on. Nebraska is mostly Republican, which means schools get very little money and teachers are paid little. When First Data (FDR) came to Omaha, they bargained for some prime land near the University of Omaha, saying they were going to build a technology center and hire more locals. Well, the center doesn't do much, First Data fired a lot of employees (in the thousands) and two people commited sucide because of the stress that they felt because of their jobs their. The losers in this, Omaha, the people and UNO. The winner, First Data, as much throw away talent as they want. When corporations get involved in education, everyone loses. At the start, and in some cases, its a good thing, but now, we are starting to see the down side of all this corporate involvement. Lest we forget, the final and only rule of business, "The bottom line is all that matters." I have a degree in business as well as mainframes and this is what we where taught in our business classes. (Now you know why I stuck with computers). My two cents, Adios, DMad
I have to agree with you, banks should never dictate what kind of OS it takes to operate your computer, just to check your bank account. Even though your doing the best thing by leaving that bank, have you thought about ways that you could get around that? Adios, DMad