Linux on the Desktop will be the most signifigant technology in 2002, completely surpassing Web Services, wireless, DSL and other things people actually use.:)
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Re:Have you ever tried to USE Solaris on x86?
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Hmm... 2 days * 8 hours * $100/hour = $1600
Looks to me like it'd be cheaper to buy a low end Sun workstation. But pool the groups and you could buy one larger Sun machine and install multiple instances of Oracle on it. That's the way our dev environment works, we have several dozen Oracle instances on a 4 proc HP N-class.
I absolutely agree with your management that test systems should mimic production systems as close as possible. Linux is obviously not a close approximation, and it is even arguable if Solaris for x86 is close enough.
As you point out the labor costs of trying to identify and fix an issue which is different between development and production will more than exceed the added cost of buying the hardware.
"Basically, you're assuming that all open source projects are little home things that, in order to make them "real", need to be adopted by commercial interests and "fixed". That's just silly."
No I'm saying that any time you post a query about most open source projects not working for you because of load issues, the response is "It works fine on my little home network."
Listen, load and stress testing an application takes a fair amount of resources. It takes money to buy the test hardware and execute tests and such. This isn't something most people can do on their little home networks, so it takes corporate investment to make it happen.
How many people do you know who have a dozen servers and 200 desktops sitting in a room just waiting around for someone to setup and run some tests?
Companies like Compaq, IBM, Microsoft, and so forth have these resources. If Compaq and IBM view OpenLDAP(or whatever) to be critical, perhaps they will make their testing labs available to the open source developers.
Otherwise you are relying upon testing in production, which is not the way to win friends.
It all works fine on someone's home machine, because it's never under any load. Try to put it into a moderate production environment, though, and it all falls down go boom.
I used to hear similar comments about open source NIS implementations 3-4 years back.
So you either start load testing it yourself, understand why it's broken and fix it. Or go with a commercial product that has already been through this process.
"Where did you hear about royalties on analog cassette tapes?"
Looks like I was mistaken and this was never enacted. Back in the early 1980's the same type of royalty tax was discussed in relation to cassette audio and VHS tapes.
I did a search to confirm my rumor mongering, and I found references to HR5705 and S1758 being proposed back in 1982, that would have made these provisions.
Although damned if I remember researching this back in 1990 or so and that was the case. I must have confused the proposal with it having been passed.
Isn't it interesting how easy it is to make a conspiracy theory? Just take a few circumstantial events, tie them together with a common theme... and ta da!
Wow. As liberal as I am, comments like this suddenly turn me into a right-wing conservative.
There is no moral equivalency between Kent State and Tienanmen square. If you do not understand the difference, you have lived in the US too long and have too little respect for your freedom.
I think you made a mistake in presuming that socialism equates to communism. They're not the same, certainly not in the European sense. I don't know of many modern European countries with a large number of refugees to the states, except for those from the wars in Bosnia, Serbia, etc.
Communism(or perhaps more accurately Marxism) definately leads to fascism and totalitarianism because it has to be implemented by force. Marx recognizes this and calls it the Dictatorship of the Proletariat.
I do think Richard Stallman is a Marxist. His writings speak to his realization that his utopian will never come naturally, but rather has to be forced on people. I find the commentary on this China thing to be very pro-Communist. The article makes the implicit assumption that Microsoft is nasty because they used Taiwanese programmers who put anti-communist messages in the software they sold China.
I think the original posters message in this thread had reason for a very real concern.
I always find the talk of McCarthy to be humorous. One can dislike Communism without adopting a McCarthy outlook. In making this comment, the posters are engaging in the same behavior they believe they are speaking out against.
I'm curious if you realize just how bloody ignorant you are of the United States?
"But seriously, have you ever been to these European countries? "
I would have to ask if you have ever been to the States? If so which ones, and do you realize how large the US is?
I was speaking with someone from Sweden one day, he commented on the WTC attack and whether I felt safe or not. I had to point out to him that New York City is further away from me than he is from Bosnia. He couldn't quite grasp the concept of it taking several days by car to drive from one side of the country to the other.
If you have been to the US, do you seriously think to presume you understand the country because you have visited New York? Do you know what Texans are like, what about those from Iowa? Nebraska? Montana? Indiana? Have you ever had a three-way in Cincinatti? Do you know what a good pork tenderloin from Iowa is like? What about a Philly steak sandwich? Or a Italian roast beef from Chicago?
In the future before you presume to question the ignorance of Americans it would be best if you instead focused on your own opportunity for learning.
BTW to aid in your education I would like to point out that the three-strike laws would not apply to someone stealing jeans. Shoplifting is generally a misdemeanor offense(unless we are talking about stealing a truck load of jeans), and three-strike applies to felonies. The person would have had to been convicted on three felonies, things such as armed robbery, rape, aggravated assault and so forth.
This is not at all accurate. The fee is only charged on CDR media specifically intended for audio recording. It is not charged on CDR media intended for computer based recording even though it is often used for music.
Also, similar fees are collected on analog cassette tapes, and have been for years. I'm not certain if VHS tapes have such a tax, but I would not doubt it.
Yeah, them Netscape fellas were kind of pissed off that they wouldn't get royalties from the University. So they founded Netscape with the premise of selling the browswer themselves for $35/each.
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Hmm... 2 days * 8 hours * $100/hour = $1600
Looks to me like it'd be cheaper to buy a low end Sun workstation. But pool the groups and you could buy one larger Sun machine and install multiple instances of Oracle on it. That's the way our dev environment works, we have several dozen Oracle instances on a 4 proc HP N-class.
I absolutely agree with your management that test systems should mimic production systems as close as possible. Linux is obviously not a close approximation, and it is even arguable if Solaris for x86 is close enough.
As you point out the labor costs of trying to identify and fix an issue which is different between development and production will more than exceed the added cost of buying the hardware.
I was aware of that information being in my DNS registration. I put it there.
:)
Honestly I don't use Real and don't like the company. But it's not surprising that they collect information given how intrusive their player is.
so don't use it.
What I was responding to was your accusations towards Microsoft. I thought they were funny.
Like I said, paranoid...
Haha. No I'm saying that the LDAP default install in AD lacking certain fields doesn't appear to be a challenge because they can be easily added.
"Basically, you're assuming that all open source projects are little home things that, in order to make them "real", need to be adopted by commercial interests and "fixed". That's just silly."
No I'm saying that any time you post a query about most open source projects not working for you because of load issues, the response is "It works fine on my little home network."
Listen, load and stress testing an application takes a fair amount of resources. It takes money to buy the test hardware and execute tests and such. This isn't something most people can do on their little home networks, so it takes corporate investment to make it happen.
How many people do you know who have a dozen servers and 200 desktops sitting in a room just waiting around for someone to setup and run some tests?
Companies like Compaq, IBM, Microsoft, and so forth have these resources. If Compaq and IBM view OpenLDAP(or whatever) to be critical, perhaps they will make their testing labs available to the open source developers.
Otherwise you are relying upon testing in production, which is not the way to win friends.
Ahh, and so goes the struggle of Open Source.
It all works fine on someone's home machine, because it's never under any load. Try to put it into a moderate production environment, though, and it all falls down go boom.
I used to hear similar comments about open source NIS implementations 3-4 years back.
So you either start load testing it yourself, understand why it's broken and fix it. Or go with a commercial product that has already been through this process.
Hmm, it's pretty easy to add fields to the Active Directory schema. There's also AD editing tools that will let you modify them at low level.
Failing that AD/LDAP is pretty easy to script using ADSI interfaces.
I've never done what you are looking at, but it doesn't seem like it should be that difficult.
Heh. Nothing makes my day more than reading the ramblings of the paranoid.
Those are business relationships built upon by the reputation of the company or the individual.
This is far different than relationships built upon who is related to whom, how much of a kickback has been given, etc.
"And besides, I don't want a really stable Windows if I have to worry about what it's sending when it calls home. "
Nothing like some good old FUD to really make an argument pointless.
Oh, I think people do know what happened there.
Kent State marked the beginning of the end of US involvement in Vietnam. Public opinion shifted almost entirely against involvement in the war.
Again, while tragic, it is hardly fair to call them morally equivalent actions as far as the nation as a whole is concerned.
"Where did you hear about royalties on analog cassette tapes?"
Looks like I was mistaken and this was never enacted. Back in the early 1980's the same type of royalty tax was discussed in relation to cassette audio and VHS tapes.
I did a search to confirm my rumor mongering, and I found references to HR5705 and S1758 being proposed back in 1982, that would have made these provisions.
Although damned if I remember researching this back in 1990 or so and that was the case. I must have confused the proposal with it having been passed.
Isn't it interesting how easy it is to make a conspiracy theory? Just take a few circumstantial events, tie them together with a common theme... and ta da!
I hope you don't seriously believe this crap?
Wow. As liberal as I am, comments like this suddenly turn me into a right-wing conservative.
There is no moral equivalency between Kent State and Tienanmen square. If you do not understand the difference, you have lived in the US too long and have too little respect for your freedom.
"anyone who is a raving McCarthy-ite (USofAmerican) who hears "Communist" and thinks "Fascist" should "
I think it's interesting how you misuse the term McCarthyism.
I think you made a mistake in presuming that socialism equates to communism. They're not the same, certainly not in the European sense. I don't know of many modern European countries with a large number of refugees to the states, except for those from the wars in Bosnia, Serbia, etc.
Communism(or perhaps more accurately Marxism) definately leads to fascism and totalitarianism because it has to be implemented by force. Marx recognizes this and calls it the Dictatorship of the Proletariat.
I do think Richard Stallman is a Marxist. His writings speak to his realization that his utopian will never come naturally, but rather has to be forced on people. I find the commentary on this China thing to be very pro-Communist. The article makes the implicit assumption that Microsoft is nasty because they used Taiwanese programmers who put anti-communist messages in the software they sold China.
I think the original posters message in this thread had reason for a very real concern.
I always find the talk of McCarthy to be humorous. One can dislike Communism without adopting a McCarthy outlook. In making this comment, the posters are engaging in the same behavior they believe they are speaking out against.
I'm curious if you realize just how bloody ignorant you are of the United States?
"But seriously, have you ever been to these European countries? "
I would have to ask if you have ever been to the States? If so which ones, and do you realize how large the US is?
I was speaking with someone from Sweden one day, he commented on the WTC attack and whether I felt safe or not. I had to point out to him that New York City is further away from me than he is from Bosnia. He couldn't quite grasp the concept of it taking several days by car to drive from one side of the country to the other.
If you have been to the US, do you seriously think to presume you understand the country because you have visited New York? Do you know what Texans are like, what about those from Iowa? Nebraska? Montana? Indiana? Have you ever had a three-way in Cincinatti? Do you know what a good pork tenderloin from Iowa is like? What about a Philly steak sandwich? Or a Italian roast beef from Chicago?
In the future before you presume to question the ignorance of Americans it would be best if you instead focused on your own opportunity for learning.
BTW to aid in your education I would like to point out that the three-strike laws would not apply to someone stealing jeans. Shoplifting is generally a misdemeanor offense(unless we are talking about stealing a truck load of jeans), and three-strike applies to felonies. The person would have had to been convicted on three felonies, things such as armed robbery, rape, aggravated assault and so forth.
"they are both far-left"
Huh?
"Fascism seeks equality between race."
Huh?
The best historical example we have of Fascism is Nazi Germany, and the only racial equality they believed in was one race, everybody else is dead.
This philosophy is most frequently found in the far-right wing which disqualifies your first statement I quoted.
When you are older, you will understand why you are wrong.
"Dunstan - fighting a losing battle against misuse of "piracy""
Perhaps it's time you stopped beating the dead horse. Piracy was the term chosen by those who engaged in the practice.
Anybody who remembers the WAREZ boards of the 1980's could tell you that.
"The presence of Red Flag in the bidding guaranteed that Red Flag would win the bidding. That's how business is done in China."
Which also explains why the United States is a much more powerful country in terms of it's economy.
We abandoned these concepts years ago because they are not in the long term best interests.
Yes, in Canada all CD media is surtaxed, but the same is not true in the US.
"paid every time a blank CDR is purchased! "
This is not at all accurate. The fee is only charged on CDR media specifically intended for audio recording. It is not charged on CDR media intended for computer based recording even though it is often used for music.
Also, similar fees are collected on analog cassette tapes, and have been for years. I'm not certain if VHS tapes have such a tax, but I would not doubt it.
Yeah, them Netscape fellas were kind of pissed off that they wouldn't get royalties from the University. So they founded Netscape with the premise of selling the browswer themselves for $35/each.