I would have to agree that MS is not above the law but they should not be punished for running their business their way. If there is a company or person with a superior product and they can't get it out there or make money at it, then it's not MS's fault. This is the USA, a capitalist society not a socialist one and I would rather live here than in the latter. You can question the quality of their software, which has improved in my opinion, but it has made it easier for people to get out there and use a computer. Go back to 10 years ago before Windows 3.1, computers were quite difficult to use and nothing made sense, MS made the Intel line affordable and easy to use.
That being said, there are alternatives like Linux but it's not there yet and it's not the system people want, they want applications, they don't want to think about how the computer does this, or configure that. They want to turn it on and be productive anything else is a waste of time. MS deserves accolades for making their software easy to use for everyone. For you tech elite out there, enjoy the alternatives, you and I can live with them, being a Linux user for over 4 years now, but not my Mom and Dad.
I would rather live in a country where I don't get penalized for making money and be able to run my business my way without the Government, fed or state, interfering. We need checks but I think Sun, AOL and other MS competitors have envy and the Liberal Democrat "it's not fair" administration pushed for MS to be broken up. Now we have an administration that supports businesses large and small to realize the American dream and that is not only good for my small company but for me as well.
-Pat
My question would be is any other programming language besides Javascript part of ECMA? VBscript I do believe stands on it's own and I think Java should too.
Many companies have been using it for a few years now and I don't believe this will change much of anything except in the minds of some programmers. There was an interesting piece in PC Week (this week's issue) about Java and the standards process.
I think we're forgetting something here. Plug-ins will start to come out in droves when the tools to develop them are mature. Not many windows coders use c/c++ without using a RAD environemnt. When Inprise releases delphi/c++ builder RAD environments for Linux the apps will start flowing including plug-ins. All in my opinion. Pat
When I went to high school back in the mid 80's (1988 graduate), I took a number of computer science courses during high school that taught various languages and databases. When I started college in 1988 we started at CP/M with machine language actually on the 8080 then went forward with assembler/c/pascal on the PC platform when windows was at 2.0x. Since then I've learned a couple of more languages since including Java which is ongoing. The principles I learned from the classes back then helped me learn whatever I want. I think learning languages is great as long as the principles aren't lost. I've now begun to finish for my degree in Information Science and one of my courses this semester is database management. I've worked with databases for a number of years in my job and continue to do so. I will now be able to learn more theory and apply it to the real world, which is all that languages help you do in my opinion, take the theory and apply it to real situations. This semester I am learning database theory and applying it using MS Access as well as Oracle for the clase. I will also be able to apply this to Mysql, postgresql, Star office database, and filemaker pro 3.x which we use at the office. The way to learn is to take the theory and apply it immediately versus later on when you may forget the principles, this will assuredly help you learn. Patrick Dunn Oswego State U - Go Lakers!
There is already a great, somewhat Quicken like clone called Moneydance. It works under Java and is completely portable no matter what platform you're on, including the data file. Check it out! Pat
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I would have to agree that MS is not above the law but they should not be punished for running their business their way. If there is a company or person with a superior product and they can't get it out there or make money at it, then it's not MS's fault. This is the USA, a capitalist society not a socialist one and I would rather live here than in the latter. You can question the quality of their software, which has improved in my opinion, but it has made it easier for people to get out there and use a computer. Go back to 10 years ago before Windows 3.1, computers were quite difficult to use and nothing made sense, MS made the Intel line affordable and easy to use. That being said, there are alternatives like Linux but it's not there yet and it's not the system people want, they want applications, they don't want to think about how the computer does this, or configure that. They want to turn it on and be productive anything else is a waste of time. MS deserves accolades for making their software easy to use for everyone. For you tech elite out there, enjoy the alternatives, you and I can live with them, being a Linux user for over 4 years now, but not my Mom and Dad. I would rather live in a country where I don't get penalized for making money and be able to run my business my way without the Government, fed or state, interfering. We need checks but I think Sun, AOL and other MS competitors have envy and the Liberal Democrat "it's not fair" administration pushed for MS to be broken up. Now we have an administration that supports businesses large and small to realize the American dream and that is not only good for my small company but for me as well. -Pat
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Thanks, I hope not. I'm about to upgrade my java skills and I'm really looking forward to using it beyond what I've learned in the past. Pat
My question would be is any other programming language besides Javascript part of ECMA?
VBscript I do believe stands on it's own and I think Java should too.
Many companies have been using it for a few years now and I don't believe this will change much of anything except in the minds of some programmers. There was an interesting piece in PC Week (this week's issue) about Java and the standards process.
My $.02 right or wrong.
I think we're forgetting something here. Plug-ins will start to come out in droves when the tools to develop them are mature. Not many windows coders use c/c++ without using a RAD environemnt. When Inprise releases delphi/c++ builder RAD environments for Linux the apps will start flowing including plug-ins. All in my opinion. Pat
When I went to high school back in the mid 80's (1988 graduate), I took a number of computer science courses during high school that taught various languages and databases. When I started college in 1988 we started at CP/M with machine language actually on the 8080 then went forward with assembler/c/pascal on the PC platform when windows was at 2.0x. Since then I've learned a couple of more languages since including Java which is ongoing. The principles I learned from the classes back then helped me learn whatever I want. I think learning languages is great as long as the principles aren't lost. I've now begun to finish for my degree in Information Science and one of my courses this semester is database management. I've worked with databases for a number of years in my job and continue to do so. I will now be able to learn more theory and apply it to the real world, which is all that languages help you do in my opinion, take the theory and apply it to real situations. This semester I am learning database theory and applying it using MS Access as well as Oracle for the clase. I will also be able to apply this to Mysql, postgresql, Star office database, and filemaker pro 3.x which we use at the office. The way to learn is to take the theory and apply it immediately versus later on when you may forget the principles, this will assuredly help you learn. Patrick Dunn Oswego State U - Go Lakers!
There is already a great, somewhat Quicken like clone called Moneydance. It works under Java and is completely portable no matter what platform you're on, including the data file. Check it out! Pat