Perhaps "You can't fix stupid" but sometimes you can replace it. The Internet protocols and infrastructure just weren't designed with security in mind. Well designed products/services for consumers don't rely on sophisticated knowledge for safety and efficacy.
Well, the only reason Kildall is part of the IBM PC story is that Bill Gates referred IBM to him.
Most people would be grateful for a business referral to the largest computer company in the world, but perhaps you don't "read" it that way.
None of the players in the creation of the PC knew at the time that it would be such a big success. IBM, Intel and Gates took the chance and Kildall didn't.
"Don't use Windoze or any M$ tools unless you have to, though they look simple, they bring endless unnecessary complexity all caused by M$ trying to screw its customers"
You're complaining about complexity and suggesting Emacs and Eclipse as alternatives?
I reject the notion that there was any "dislocation", just a different approach. You ignore both the historical context of these OSs and their target audience.
The term "rock solid" never had anything to do with being secure. It was about stability and Windows 2000 was the first NT kernel based OS that was targeted to consumers. It was a great improvement over the real-mode based win9x versions.
Ironically, in Slashdot fashion, the summary of note 15 in wikipedia.org is misleading. The quote about security was in the context of Kerberos, it wasn't about talking about viruses. Although arguably Windows 2000 was the most secure Windows version, it wasn't actually marketed as such.
"With rapid changes in sanitation, medicine and lifestyle in the past century, some of these indigenous species are facing decline, displacement and possibly even extinction."
Please do not take this for a junk letter. Bill Gates is sharing his fortune. If you ignore this you will repent later. In an effort to make sure that Internet Explorer 6 remains the most widely used browser, Microsoft is running an Shill beta test.
For the first favorable posting you make to Slashdot, Microsoft will pay you $245.00, for every second posting, Microsoft will pay you $243.00 and for every third posting, you will be paid $241.00. Within two weeks, Microsoft will contact you for your address and then send you a cheque.
"why the fuck don't they just implement their own native port of Bash? It's like they have this extreme allergy to Unix."
Why the fuck do UNIX fan-boys think that Unix is the ultimate OS? Perhaps because most of them only have experience in two OS families: UNIX/BSD/Linux/OSx and Windows.
"Consider the task of converting a few thousand files from one format to another. The average Windows user will spend hours doing it by hand or spend a lot of money on a special purpose tool to do such conversions. If they're really smart, they may spend a lot of time and cobble something together in VisualBasic. That's the Windows way: slow, cumbersome, and expensive."
You mean there's a UNIX utility you can launch fom the command line that will convert a file from any arbitrary format to another arbitrary format without having to obtain a special purpose tool? What do they call it?
I don't think it's that simple. The DOS command line hasn't changed all that much and it's original implementation was based on having a system with 16K or RAM and no hard drive.
Once Windows came along, there wasn't a lot of reason to improve DOS, but that's not the same thing as trying to force you to use the GUI.
"The standard cmd.exe is too limited, and Powershell isn't a good interactive shell, it's more like typing at a Python or Ruby interpreter"
Well, it sounds like you simply like the UNIX command line and define it as command-line "goodness". No problem with that, but some people consider the UNIX command line to not be powerful enough and prefer Powershell.
"How do we know that? History has shown us making the source available would jeopardize the rankings, and that would most likely be the primary effect... once it takes hold, there won't be anything else left!."
I heard a rumor that there were search engines before Google started and new ones created since.
"For the lack of a better metric, the developer with higher IQ should earn more... Anyways from what i've heard, the hiring tests they give at Microsoft or Google are basically IQ tests."
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With apologies to future Hiro (or is it future Hiro of a now dead timeline?)
Perhaps "You can't fix stupid" but sometimes you can replace it. The Internet protocols and infrastructure just weren't designed with security in mind. Well designed products/services for consumers don't rely on sophisticated knowledge for safety and efficacy.
So as long as you use Emacs as if it were notepad, it won't be complicated.
Well, the only reason Kildall is part of the IBM PC story is that Bill Gates referred IBM to him.
Most people would be grateful for a business referral to the largest computer company in the world, but perhaps you don't "read" it that way.
None of the players in the creation of the PC knew at the time that it would be such a big success. IBM, Intel and Gates took the chance and Kildall didn't.
"Don't use Windoze or any M$ tools unless you have to, though they look simple, they bring endless unnecessary complexity all caused by M$ trying to screw its customers"
You're complaining about complexity and suggesting Emacs and Eclipse as alternatives?
"or leaving them on a train for strangers"
Of course you can. You just leave your Kindle behind.
I reject the notion that there was any "dislocation", just a different approach. You ignore both the historical context of these OSs and their target audience.
Bill Gates recommended Gary Kildall's CP/M to IBM and Kildall was unable or unwilling to close the deal. Both MS and IBM were acting in good faith.
Right. I think the "30" high def graphical terminal" was SVR2's most innovative feature.
The term "rock solid" never had anything to do with being secure. It was about stability and Windows 2000 was the first NT kernel based OS that was targeted to consumers. It was a great improvement over the real-mode based win9x versions.
Ironically, in Slashdot fashion, the summary of note 15 in wikipedia.org is misleading. The quote about security was in the context of Kerberos, it wasn't about talking about viruses. Although arguably Windows 2000 was the most secure Windows version, it wasn't actually marketed as such.
"With rapid changes in sanitation, medicine and lifestyle in the past century, some of these indigenous species are facing decline, displacement and possibly even extinction."
is unlikely to be affected.
Dear Friends,
Please do not take this for a junk letter. Bill Gates is sharing his fortune. If you ignore this you will repent later. In an effort to make sure that Internet Explorer 6 remains the most widely used browser, Microsoft is running an Shill beta test.
For the first favorable posting you make to Slashdot, Microsoft will pay you $245.00, for every second posting, Microsoft will pay you $243.00 and for every third posting, you will be paid $241.00. Within two weeks, Microsoft will contact you for your address and then send you a cheque.
"Because Unix is pretty much a standard when it comes to CLI development and usage."
Yes, the UNIX CLI is the standard CLI for UNIX. Let Windows be Windows and UNIX be UNIX.
"why the fuck don't they just implement their own native port of Bash? It's like they have this extreme allergy to Unix."
Why the fuck do UNIX fan-boys think that Unix is the ultimate OS? Perhaps because most of them only have experience in two OS families: UNIX/BSD/Linux/OSx and Windows.
So what's the command line option for any of those that allows you to say convert ASCII to EBCDIC without writing any code or scripts.
After all, the complaint about Windows was that you had to use a special purpose tool or write some code to convert your files.
"Consider the task of converting a few thousand files from one format to another. The average Windows user will spend hours doing it by hand or spend a lot of money on a special purpose tool to do such conversions. If they're really smart, they may spend a lot of time and cobble something together in VisualBasic. That's the Windows way: slow, cumbersome, and expensive."
You mean there's a UNIX utility you can launch fom the command line that will convert a file from any arbitrary format to another arbitrary format without having to obtain a special purpose tool? What do they call it?
I don't think it's that simple. The DOS command line hasn't changed all that much and it's original implementation was based on having a system with 16K or RAM and no hard drive.
Once Windows came along, there wasn't a lot of reason to improve DOS, but that's not the same thing as trying to force you to use the GUI.
"The standard cmd.exe is too limited, and Powershell isn't a good interactive shell, it's more like typing at a Python or Ruby interpreter"
Well, it sounds like you simply like the UNIX command line and define it as command-line "goodness". No problem with that, but some people consider the UNIX command line to not be powerful enough and prefer Powershell.
Right. Besides anybody over 35 who uses Twitter is either a celebrity or a poser.
I've never met anyone with the name "HISPANIC".
"How do we know that? History has shown us making the source available would jeopardize the rankings, and that would most likely be the primary effect... once it takes hold, there won't be anything else left!."
I heard a rumor that there were search engines before Google started and new ones created since.
"Don't matter what kind of girl she is, either way you're fucked."
Isn't that why you get married - to get fucked on a regular basis? Of course, after you're married awhile you discover it doesn't work as advertised.
Well, if human spaceflight continues to consist of dicking around in earth orbit like a project Mercury SUV, it's not much of a loss.
"Obama's agenda has always been to funnel all available money into entitlement programs and short-term make-work projects."
Really? I missed that. If that's really his agenda, he's really doing a bad job following it. Unless you consider the military an entitlement program.
"For the lack of a better metric, the developer with higher IQ should earn more... Anyways from what i've heard, the hiring tests they give at Microsoft or Google are basically IQ tests."
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