Seriously, everyone's more into cell phones and WAP there. Got to have been around 20 IPOs in recent months there connected with software and hardware for same.
The cash cow is cable services at the moment, and FTE isn't about to kill the current services just to support open source, even if they're the major adopter of such.
[just back from two weeks vacation in France - Paris, Nantes, Bordeaux, Nice, Antebbes - and interesting seeing how stuff is used there on the ground]
Amusing, considering my recent sojourn in France for two weeks, that you pick up the news about Jabber.com and yet ignore France Telecom's major investments in Linux computers in every French schoolroom, including departments like the French West Indies and so on.
Now, if you'd reported something on Loft Story, which has a 66 percent market share on TV and is a major internet scandal in France, resulting in a public rebuke by the French minister for TV and cable over coverage, I might find that interesting. But since that's real news that all the french are obsessed with, especially the techies who hacked the video and audio feed to get past the censorship controls, I doubt you'll report on it.
[note - I have owned France Telecom before, so I'm not unbiased, but I am informed]
She blinded me with science
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Can you imagine if you had a vindictive girlfriend and she was about to break up with you?
Yup, she'd help you paint your house... but think of what each room would look like in just a few months!
What I want is a house that looks non-descript by day, but totally freaks out in iridescent dayglo swirls at dusk, turns neon at night, and rosy pink or something at dawn.
Note they say: "Perhaps Intel was a little frustrated that its own 815+PC133 platform beat RDRAM last year. This time Intel will not screw up - they will doubly cripple SDRAM to make certain that it cannot match RDRAM. In other words, Intel seems willing to publicly impale Northwood on an entirely inadequate Brookdale platform in order to make its point. It is this type of agenda that causes further doubt about Intel's commitment to the P4 platform and leaves the door wide open for all of Intel's competitors."
And note the CPU rampup - yeah, it will run faster than a P3, so long as you don't ask it to run fast for very long. Kind of like a car that goes 0-60 mph in 0.1 seconds, but if you actually try to get to top speed of 125 mph, it will suddenly kick in the limiter and drop you back down to 115 mph. Sure, the car's rated to do 250 mph, but it can't actually run at 250 mph.
Translation - very sucky. Trying to fight AMD on "bandwidth" by faking it and also fight Transmeta on low-power by using a heat limiter (faking it). It saves power when demand gets high by cutting throughput, instead of Transmeta which saves power when demand is low, but lets you use full power when you need it.
"Scotty, I need more power!" "Sorry, Cap'n, but the speed limiter just kicked in - I can give you warp 1.3, or if you turn off the shields and the phasers, I can give you our full rating of warp 9. Of course, then we'll die anyway..."
Yup, sounds like Intel...
So, basically what you're saying is
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That the Pentium IV is a marketing ploy by Intel to keep AMD from grabbing all the market share with their superior products.
Didn't we already know that?
The only plus side from my viewpoint is I was going to buy some 500 MHz Pentium II chips, which should drop in price.
What about the power consumption claims from Intel on the Pentium IV - anyone got any specs on that?
While the EU laws on Net copyright are intriguing, and probably run afoul of the UK privacy laws as well as other long-standing legal background laws, we're paying too much attention to the details (hardware) and not enough to why it happened (software).
Why did it happen? Simple. When everyone met at Davos, all the US company owners and their paid political flacks beat up on their EU counterparts and told them that the EU's more reasonable copyright provisions were causing them trouble in the US and Canada.
So, for the sake of corporate profits, they fixed it.
If you don't believe me, read between the lines in the annual reports of Disney, MSFT, AOL/TW, and other companies that have been talking about how bad loose international copyrights are.
The.com boom/bust cycle was yet another tech cycle, similar to rail, telegraph, automobiles, radio, and TV initial cycles. Very, very similar. In fact, if you look at the Stock Market Crash and the Great Depression, you'll see a familiar tech stock market speculation cycle as part of it.
That said, your statement "something we won't see in my lifetime" is probably wrong. Unless you're in your 80s.
My guess is something similar will occur sometime between now and 2022, given the current rate of technological change. It might even be fusion power or something else, but we will have another popular stock market delusion.
There are two ways to avoid losing your shirt in these speculative cycles:
1. Buy only sound companies with good prospects for profits, good cash positions, and reasonable P/E projections. Choose the leaders, not the me-toos. And if you ever find more than 5 per cent of your money is in a single stock, start selling out of it slowly - it's better to have 28 percent tax on a 50 percent gain (36 percent real return) over three months than to have an 80 percent loss. And never go on margin, unless you are selling something else that day.
2. Don't participate - be a contrarian. Buy up the out of favor "boring" stocks (or even bonds) as their price drops. Real value wins almost all the time.
If it was a private firm with closed source code, you'd be having problems now.
Even if it was for code grouping, it's still not as bad as writing code for a closed source application language and having them go out of business....
Where do you see Linux profitable growth areas?
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As a shareholder of both Red Hat and Microsoft, among others, it has been gratifying to me to see Red Hat doing so well in becoming profitable.
My question is, where do you see the profitable areas of Linux as being for Red Hat (or other distros)? Is it embedded systems more than servers, or info appliances? And has the introduction of major players such as IBM into the Linux R&D space been a help or a hindrance to Linux growth?
as someone who modded up the first posts (three made it as final questions), I was a tad disappointed in some of his answers.
Until I got to his answer for Microsoft applications like Office, Visio, and Project being ported to Linux.
Overall, while I'm not too surprised by some of his more ambiquous answers, one feels that we learned some things from this exchange, especially in regards to how MSFT will market to compete with Linux and BSD. It looks like the Oracle TPC debate - they'll aim at the "total cost for the system over the years", ignore the time and salary costs for dealing with security and other bug fix glitches, and just come up with lots of nice Total Cost Per Project Year charts.
Have to agree with his assessment on the likelihood of MSFT marketing products in the Linux space, given our awe and wonder at all the really keen MSFT tools... not.
Generally, the week before a film premieres there's a film screening for the press, so you're a week late is my guess. One of the things I do for fun the week before the Seattle International Film Fest is sit in on some of the film screenings, since I always have a pass.
The main question should be - what ever happened to our sense of wonder and astonishment? I think we lost it somewhere in the 90s, and this fin-de-siecle era we live in cares little for space travel and exploration. Millenia from now, when voyagers from other stars come to check up on all those messages we sent out, they'll find a dead, lifeless planet, polluted beyond all recognition, most likely with a nice asteroid impact crater from some plan by a terrorist nation to wreck revenge upon the godless.
For your family example: That's exactly what.name is intended for. (disclaimer: I'm co-founder of the company that was awarded it) You'll be able to register your-firstname.your-lastname.name, and optionally get e-mail forwarding for your-firstname@your-lastname.name. This scheme also has the advantage that if you have a common lastname, and want an address on the format mentioned, you won't block others with the same lastname from also getting that kind of address.
.name will be the only TLD that require that a name that's registered is the name of a person or a fictional character, and not a company or product name etc.
Nope, that won't work. Here's an easy example, from family history, but luckily I have a unique name variant myself.
Let's say that my grandfather is William Jefferson Clinton. Called Bill. And my other grandfather is William Marcus Rodham. And I was named after my grandfather, so I'm William Jefferson Clinton (a totally legal name). Called Will. My other grandpa was called Willy.
My grandfather, the president, registered both bill@clinton.name and william@clinton.name and william.jefferson@clinton.name - since he's famous he gets it (trust me on this one). I try to register my name, on my birth certificate, as william@clinton.name - rejected, cause he has as much (if not more) right to it, since I'm a green party member and I'll send email and cause scandals.
But it's my name!
Flawed, flawed, flawed, flawed. Names are not unique.
Luckily for me, I have a unique hyphenated name myself, and only two people in the world have that name - my son and myself, and he has a different first name.
Actually, I was reading a book called "Hungry for Profit: Agribusiness threat to Farmers, the Environment, and Consumers" (the secondary title is paraphrased) and the statistic it gave was that over half of soy was GM. And that was a year or so ago, so I wouldn't be surprised if it moved up a bit.
Actually, according to Business Wire stories on Monsanto, it was 54 per cent for 2000 and current projections are 66 per cent for 2001. Two-thirds of all soy grown in the US. All unlabelled.
Look, even the US Supreme Court avoids ruling on whether Americans have a right to privacy, so forget it - you have none on Hotmail.
In Canada, there's the Internet Privacy Act, which became law on 01/01/01, and which means that I, as a dual citizen of the US and Canada, have more rights by virtue of my Canadian citizenship than by my American birthright.
And in the EU they have more rights, but the EU won't sue the US companies that violate their citizens' rights to privacy.
You are propagating a dangerous myth which can
only harm those who attempt to protect themselves
in this ridiculous fashion. Using "mail it to
yourself" as a copyright protection strategy has
major pitfalls. REGISTER YOUR COPYRIGHT.
If you'd actually read my post, you'd see I said you really should register your copyright. And I even pointed out that the smartest thing to do was to register it both in Canada and in the USA, just as UK should register both in the UK and the USA. Because you have more rights.
But if you're doing freeware or shareware or GPL, it's not always cost-effective to pay out up to $100 in local currency to register in both countries each.xx release, just the.00 releases or major.x releases.
Legally, your post on/. is copyrighted, even if not registered. The protection is stronger by the inclusion of a
Copyright (c) 2001 The Big Fuzzy Bunny
statement on your post. And it's even stronger if you print it and send it to register it at the Library of Congress.
But my point was what one might choose to do in practice:
sliding scale is
1. stuff you must keep copyright - register at US Library of Congress and your national registry
2. stuff you probably need copyright - register at your national registry
3. stuff you aren't too concerned with (bug fix code, minor maintenance) - save to CD or dead tree and mail registered letter to self
4. stuff you could care less about - include copyright statement on (splash screen, help about, startup sequence, in code as comment)
The problem is that some of the ICANN proposals have them charging higher fees and requiring national or international registration for.org -.com was pretty much a done deal, due to the amount of money the corporations spent to have their control enforced.
Not that this affects me, I run a legit.org myself, with a national registration. But think about the effect on anarchist organizations, zine publishers, radicals, organizations opposed to their national government. Hint - Afghanistan, Iraq, Israel, and the Palestinian Authority will just refuse to recognize contrary groups.
And what if you want to do.net for a family, since one of your relatives snapped up.com since he's a star, and another got.org for his fan club, and the rest of you are frozen out. I didn't choose the name I was born with, and it's way easier to do something like bill@gates.net than it would be to william.zander.michael@gatesinseattle.net - fits on the business cards too.
Yes, legally in the US, you just need to put it to a CD (floppies last about 4-5 years, CDs 20 years, mag tape 100 years) and mail it to yourself postmarked by registered mail.
But if you want full protection, by being registered in library searches, you need to send it to your national archives.
I used to produce various software, RPGs, and magazines in Canada - I would always print out the source code and register it in both the National Library (can't recall the name) in Canada and the US Library of Congress.
But I only did that for full version releases. The bug fix versions I would just save to disk. And keep the disk.
And all my code had a copyright declaration on the splash screen (or boot), DOS -? call, and embedded in the main screen Help About.
The use of lawyer letters to scare you into doing something that you don't have to do, and stop you from doing something that you have every right to do is fairly common in the industry.
And considering that some of us had computer programs with Open* and *GL names back in the late 70s and early 80s, I kind of doubt they have a leg to stand on.
Oops... yes, I was a child hacker... but now you know I'm over 30...
Maybe I'm "new age" TM, but I shop organic because I don't want to eating random GM crap like this or encouraging monopolistic and tyranical business like this that strive to put the farmer in a worse place than they already are.
That doesn't work. A lot of the products from Monsanto and other GM producers are allowed to be in things such as fertilizer, feed, etc without any labelling like they have in Europe. It's estimated that half the soy crop is GM in the US, and probably between 10 and 20 per cent of all the foodstuffs that you eat - apples, oranges, etc.
Until we have labelling, you can't be sure it's not GM.
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So am I the only one who thinks that the girl who turnt in all her fellow students because she didn't score as much as they did is a real bitch?
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Well, no, she's just maximizing her ROI (return on investment), by downgrading everyone else to bump up her score.
Now, if it was her boyfriend in another class who narked, that would perhaps be something
Seriously, everyone's more into cell phones and WAP there. Got to have been around 20 IPOs in recent months there connected with software and hardware for same.
The cash cow is cable services at the moment, and FTE isn't about to kill the current services just to support open source, even if they're the major adopter of such.
[just back from two weeks vacation in France - Paris, Nantes, Bordeaux, Nice, Antebbes - and interesting seeing how stuff is used there on the ground]
Amusing, considering my recent sojourn in France for two weeks, that you pick up the news about Jabber.com and yet ignore France Telecom's major investments in Linux computers in every French schoolroom, including departments like the French West Indies and so on.
Now, if you'd reported something on Loft Story, which has a 66 percent market share on TV and is a major internet scandal in France, resulting in a public rebuke by the French minister for TV and cable over coverage, I might find that interesting. But since that's real news that all the french are obsessed with, especially the techies who hacked the video and audio feed to get past the censorship controls, I doubt you'll report on it.
[note - I have owned France Telecom before, so I'm not unbiased, but I am informed]
Can you imagine if you had a vindictive girlfriend and she was about to break up with you?
... but think of what each room would look like in just a few months!
Yup, she'd help you paint your house
What I want is a house that looks non-descript by day, but totally freaks out in iridescent dayglo swirls at dusk, turns neon at night, and rosy pink or something at dawn.
Nah, Emotions + Paint is Emopaint. And the kid-friendly one with primary colors is called Elmopaint.
In summer it would be white stripes on a black background and in winter it would be black stripes on a white background.
And just to mess with people's minds, I'd post inverse pictures of it on the web.
Seriously, Intel's chip fab concept is to throttle down power to avoid chip meltdown when the chip gets too hot, which causes this.
So, either buy a Transmeta, which power saves when loads are light, or get an AMD, which takes a licking and keeps on clock cycle ticking.
But you're better off with a Pentium II in most cases. Or an Athlon 1 GHz if you're not an Intel slave.
Note they say: "Perhaps Intel was a little frustrated that its own 815+PC133 platform beat RDRAM last year. This time Intel will not screw up - they will doubly cripple SDRAM to make certain that it cannot match RDRAM. In other words, Intel seems willing to publicly impale Northwood on an entirely inadequate Brookdale platform in order to make its point. It is this type of agenda that causes further doubt about Intel's commitment to the P4 platform and leaves the door wide open for all of Intel's competitors."
..."
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And note the CPU rampup - yeah, it will run faster than a P3, so long as you don't ask it to run fast for very long. Kind of like a car that goes 0-60 mph in 0.1 seconds, but if you actually try to get to top speed of 125 mph, it will suddenly kick in the limiter and drop you back down to 115 mph. Sure, the car's rated to do 250 mph, but it can't actually run at 250 mph.
Translation - very sucky. Trying to fight AMD on "bandwidth" by faking it and also fight Transmeta on low-power by using a heat limiter (faking it). It saves power when demand gets high by cutting throughput, instead of Transmeta which saves power when demand is low, but lets you use full power when you need it.
"Scotty, I need more power!" "Sorry, Cap'n, but the speed limiter just kicked in - I can give you warp 1.3, or if you turn off the shields and the phasers, I can give you our full rating of warp 9. Of course, then we'll die anyway
Yup, sounds like Intel
That the Pentium IV is a marketing ploy by Intel to keep AMD from grabbing all the market share with their superior products.
Didn't we already know that?
The only plus side from my viewpoint is I was going to buy some 500 MHz Pentium II chips, which should drop in price.
What about the power consumption claims from Intel on the Pentium IV - anyone got any specs on that?
While the EU laws on Net copyright are intriguing, and probably run afoul of the UK privacy laws as well as other long-standing legal background laws, we're paying too much attention to the details (hardware) and not enough to why it happened (software).
Why did it happen? Simple. When everyone met at Davos, all the US company owners and their paid political flacks beat up on their EU counterparts and told them that the EU's more reasonable copyright provisions were causing them trouble in the US and Canada.
So, for the sake of corporate profits, they fixed it.
If you don't believe me, read between the lines in the annual reports of Disney, MSFT, AOL/TW, and other companies that have been talking about how bad loose international copyrights are.
Money talks, so the lackey walks.
The .com boom/bust cycle was yet another tech cycle, similar to rail, telegraph, automobiles, radio, and TV initial cycles. Very, very similar. In fact, if you look at the Stock Market Crash and the Great Depression, you'll see a familiar tech stock market speculation cycle as part of it.
That said, your statement "something we won't see in my lifetime" is probably wrong. Unless you're in your 80s.
My guess is something similar will occur sometime between now and 2022, given the current rate of technological change. It might even be fusion power or something else, but we will have another popular stock market delusion.
There are two ways to avoid losing your shirt in these speculative cycles:
1. Buy only sound companies with good prospects for profits, good cash positions, and reasonable P/E projections. Choose the leaders, not the me-toos. And if you ever find more than 5 per cent of your money is in a single stock, start selling out of it slowly - it's better to have 28 percent tax on a 50 percent gain (36 percent real return) over three months than to have an 80 percent loss. And never go on margin, unless you are selling something else that day.
2. Don't participate - be a contrarian. Buy up the out of favor "boring" stocks (or even bonds) as their price drops. Real value wins almost all the time.
wonder if they were to move to Canada if they would be safe from private lawsuits by Americans.
...
Nope. We have this cool, nifty, ultrakeen thing called NAFTA that MSFT helped create.
Talk about payback
[caveat - I own MSFT shares]
You've still got the source code.
....
If it was a private firm with closed source code, you'd be having problems now.
Even if it was for code grouping, it's still not as bad as writing code for a closed source application language and having them go out of business
As a shareholder of both Red Hat and Microsoft, among others, it has been gratifying to me to see Red Hat doing so well in becoming profitable.
My question is, where do you see the profitable areas of Linux as being for Red Hat (or other distros)? Is it embedded systems more than servers, or info appliances? And has the introduction of major players such as IBM into the Linux R&D space been a help or a hindrance to Linux growth?
as someone who modded up the first posts (three made it as final questions), I was a tad disappointed in some of his answers.
... not.
Until I got to his answer for Microsoft applications like Office, Visio, and Project being ported to Linux.
Overall, while I'm not too surprised by some of his more ambiquous answers, one feels that we learned some things from this exchange, especially in regards to how MSFT will market to compete with Linux and BSD. It looks like the Oracle TPC debate - they'll aim at the "total cost for the system over the years", ignore the time and salary costs for dealing with security and other bug fix glitches, and just come up with lots of nice Total Cost Per Project Year charts.
Have to agree with his assessment on the likelihood of MSFT marketing products in the Linux space, given our awe and wonder at all the really keen MSFT tools
Generally, the week before a film premieres there's a film screening for the press, so you're a week late is my guess. One of the things I do for fun the week before the Seattle International Film Fest is sit in on some of the film screenings, since I always have a pass.
The main question should be - what ever happened to our sense of wonder and astonishment? I think we lost it somewhere in the 90s, and this fin-de-siecle era we live in cares little for space travel and exploration. Millenia from now, when voyagers from other stars come to check up on all those messages we sent out, they'll find a dead, lifeless planet, polluted beyond all recognition, most likely with a nice asteroid impact crater from some plan by a terrorist nation to wreck revenge upon the godless.
For your family example: That's exactly what .name is intended for. (disclaimer: I'm co-founder of the company that was awarded it) You'll be able to register your-firstname.your-lastname.name, and optionally get e-mail forwarding for your-firstname@your-lastname.name. This scheme also has the advantage that if you have a common lastname, and want an address on the format mentioned, you won't block others with the same lastname from also getting that kind of address.
.name will be the only TLD that require that a name that's registered is the name of a person or a fictional character, and not a company or product name etc.
Nope, that won't work. Here's an easy example, from family history, but luckily I have a unique name variant myself.
Let's say that my grandfather is William Jefferson Clinton. Called Bill. And my other grandfather is William Marcus Rodham. And I was named after my grandfather, so I'm William Jefferson Clinton (a totally legal name). Called Will. My other grandpa was called Willy.
My grandfather, the president, registered both bill@clinton.name and william@clinton.name and william.jefferson@clinton.name - since he's famous he gets it (trust me on this one). I try to register my name, on my birth certificate, as william@clinton.name - rejected, cause he has as much (if not more) right to it, since I'm a green party member and I'll send email and cause scandals.
But it's my name!
Flawed, flawed, flawed, flawed. Names are not unique.
Luckily for me, I have a unique hyphenated name myself, and only two people in the world have that name - my son and myself, and he has a different first name.
But if you're Tom Jones, forget it.
Actually, I was reading a book called "Hungry for Profit: Agribusiness threat to Farmers, the Environment, and Consumers" (the secondary title is paraphrased) and the statistic it gave was that over half of soy was GM. And that was a year or so ago, so I wouldn't be surprised if it moved up a bit.
Actually, according to Business Wire stories on Monsanto, it was 54 per cent for 2000 and current projections are 66 per cent for 2001. Two-thirds of all soy grown in the US. All unlabelled.
All your genes are belong to us.
Look, even the US Supreme Court avoids ruling on whether Americans have a right to privacy, so forget it - you have none on Hotmail.
....
In Canada, there's the Internet Privacy Act, which became law on 01/01/01, and which means that I, as a dual citizen of the US and Canada, have more rights by virtue of my Canadian citizenship than by my American birthright.
And in the EU they have more rights, but the EU won't sue the US companies that violate their citizens' rights to privacy.
All this shall pass
You are propagating a dangerous myth which can
.xx release, just the .00 releases or major .x releases.
/. is copyrighted, even if not registered. The protection is stronger by the inclusion of a
...
only harm those who attempt to protect themselves
in this ridiculous fashion. Using "mail it to
yourself" as a copyright protection strategy has
major pitfalls. REGISTER YOUR COPYRIGHT.
If you'd actually read my post, you'd see I said you really should register your copyright. And I even pointed out that the smartest thing to do was to register it both in Canada and in the USA, just as UK should register both in the UK and the USA. Because you have more rights.
But if you're doing freeware or shareware or GPL, it's not always cost-effective to pay out up to $100 in local currency to register in both countries each
Legally, your post on
Copyright (c) 2001 The Big Fuzzy Bunny
statement on your post. And it's even stronger if you print it and send it to register it at the Library of Congress.
But my point was what one might choose to do in practice:
sliding scale is
1. stuff you must keep copyright - register at US Library of Congress and your national registry
2. stuff you probably need copyright - register at your national registry
3. stuff you aren't too concerned with (bug fix code, minor maintenance) - save to CD or dead tree and mail registered letter to self
4. stuff you could care less about - include copyright statement on (splash screen, help about, startup sequence, in code as comment)
Your mileage may vary
The problem is that some of the ICANN proposals have them charging higher fees and requiring national or international registration for .org - .com was pretty much a done deal, due to the amount of money the corporations spent to have their control enforced.
.org myself, with a national registration. But think about the effect on anarchist organizations, zine publishers, radicals, organizations opposed to their national government. Hint - Afghanistan, Iraq, Israel, and the Palestinian Authority will just refuse to recognize contrary groups.
.net for a family, since one of your relatives snapped up .com since he's a star, and another got .org for his fan club, and the rest of you are frozen out. I didn't choose the name I was born with, and it's way easier to do something like bill@gates.net than it would be to william.zander.michael@gatesinseattle.net - fits on the business cards too.
Not that this affects me, I run a legit
And what if you want to do
Yes, legally in the US, you just need to put it to a CD (floppies last about 4-5 years, CDs 20 years, mag tape 100 years) and mail it to yourself postmarked by registered mail.
But if you want full protection, by being registered in library searches, you need to send it to your national archives.
I used to produce various software, RPGs, and magazines in Canada - I would always print out the source code and register it in both the National Library (can't recall the name) in Canada and the US Library of Congress.
But I only did that for full version releases. The bug fix versions I would just save to disk. And keep the disk.
And all my code had a copyright declaration on the splash screen (or boot), DOS -? call, and embedded in the main screen Help About.
Even my freeware was copyrighted and registered.
The use of lawyer letters to scare you into doing something that you don't have to do, and stop you from doing something that you have every right to do is fairly common in the industry.
... yes, I was a child hacker ... but now you know I'm over 30 ...
And considering that some of us had computer programs with Open* and *GL names back in the late 70s and early 80s, I kind of doubt they have a leg to stand on.
Oops
While I agree that Linux, or pretty much any version of Unix, is better than running M$ products, Linux is NOT ALWAYS the answer.
It is when MSFT is doing the questioning.
No tickee, no laundry list of bugs.
Maybe I'm "new age" TM, but I shop organic because I don't want to eating random GM crap like this or encouraging monopolistic and tyranical business like this that strive to put the farmer in a worse place than they already are.
That doesn't work. A lot of the products from Monsanto and other GM producers are allowed to be in things such as fertilizer, feed, etc without any labelling like they have in Europe. It's estimated that half the soy crop is GM in the US, and probably between 10 and 20 per cent of all the foodstuffs that you eat - apples, oranges, etc.
Until we have labelling, you can't be sure it's not GM.